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the world as the stage and it s a big issue so without any further ado, let s plunge in. what is the core thesis? what is the heart of the book? guest: the book tells the story of two women. one is ayaan hirsi ali. she is the somali born activist and the author of the best-selling autobiography infidel and she was notoriously threatened for her criticisms of islam. her polar opposite who is a woman called aafia siddiqui, and she is a pakistani neuroscientist who for a long time was the only woman wanted as an associate of al qaeda and was eventually captured in 2008 and convicted of firing at american personnel in afghanistan. so the book follows these two muslim women of about the same age who became complete opposites and it tries to sort of tell the story of the war on terror through their story. host: two women, such of these extremes in their positions and yet you talk about the symmetry between the two. could you explain this? guest: i think they are about the