what they re doing and i point back to what i said earlier. what we re grappling with here as a country is something that many other countries are grappling with at the same time. so interest rates in america, in canada, in australia, in new zealand as i mentioned, all pretty similar to the interest rates here. interest rates in europe are at the highest they ve been in 20 years, right just to give you some context. and all central banks around the world are worried about the persistence of inflation and are taking steps to bring it down by raising interest rates. right. 08085 909693, and the text is 85058. linda yueh, oxford economist and author, great woman. hi. can you explain stuff? they are saying we might need a recession so we can avoid recession, and we all need to