failed the american public. carley: the one. $7 trillion goes to defense spending, $787 billion to domestic programs, $45 billion for military and humanitarian aid to ukraine. it heads to president biden s desk. individual appropriation bills should have been passed rather than something so large. it is a complete sham, it is a fraud. we are spending money we don t have. go home and sell your project. go home and talk about the pork you are bringing home but you are destroying the united states of america. reporter: steny hoyer blaming members of his own party for failing to pass spending bills and forcing a rush into something this large. the senate had not passed a single appropriations bill. that out out to be unacceptable. 5535 of us sent to represent
a day just in interest on our national debt and we don t get anything for that. our interest rate is near zero. we re paying that much money. so most people don t recognize this. when obama passed his 787 billion back in 2008. i was back in congress 2009 did the roads get better and education better did social security checks go out faster? no, but they grew government. they grew the bureaucracy. they grew regulators and that s what will happen here. i would say on the way out here. most of the states ended up faring better than covid. they didn t run into the emergencies in terms of funding. california had a surplus during covid and the federal government took in more tax dollars ever in history. there is a ton of money that s already in the government coffers and we can t seem to get the social security plan and program so that it is going to work for a long time. it just raises a lot of
bill. $3.5 trillion in this social spending package. biden said it is money well spent but oh, my goodness it s so much money, it s hard to get your head around this kind of a dollar figure. what are your final thoughts on the money at stake here? well, if you spend a million dollars a day every day, it would take you almost 3,000 years to get to one trillion. if the democrats are successful in passing their bill we ll be nearly $40 trillion in debt. they have an insatiable desire for more dollars, more taxes. it s a cliche because it s true. democrats in 2009 passed a $787 billion stimulus plan and we spent years doing hearings about the waste, fraud and abuse. now they re going to spend trillions more, i think most people have a hard time seeing how that will help them in their lives. claudia: and we have this halloween deadline approaching.
a 787 billion supposed infrastructure bill and it was chalk full of waste, fraud and abuse. we got a lot of garbage out of it. to me as a conservative i want to starve the beast. i don t want more government. they ll try to pass as much money as they can. they are doing a stunning job of doing it. dana: republicans could agree more on what they define as actual infrastructure, roads, bridges, etc. a lot of other things in this bill. in the new proposal the biden team is willing to reduce the request for $159 billion that would go to roads, bridges and major infrastructure projects down to 1020. they re cutting out the stuff republicans might agree with. bill: that s actually infrastructure and but democrats don t want more roads, bridges and highways. they don t. they believe if you drive less that s better for the
2009 when obama-biden tried to push a $787 billion infrastructure program, less than 5% of that actually went to roads, bridges and highways. it s that same formula. but nancy pelosi and others make that number so exorbitant. they make it so ridiculously high that it feels like oh, look how reasonable we are to take it down to $1.7 trillion. are you kidding me? they act as if we don t already have more than $4 trillion budget that s going out the door already plus all the stimulus dollars that are going out the door. but they don t want infrastructure. they want to grow government. that s what they did whether they did have the stimulus in 2009. that s when we had solyndra. that s when we had all these problems. this is typical for the democrats. they just want to spend, spend, spend. will: jason, we talked a lot about critical race theory. so many aspects of our culture education system. your home state of utah the