conservative state. they realize that. so if they want the five votes in south carolina they will have to give us something that is closely approximates cap, cut and balance as they can. i have to have something i can go back to my state and say the 75th time we did this is the last time we did it. bill: the south carolina delegation have been holdouts. thank you for your time. martha: it s fascinating. they are saying south carolina against the world is the feeling in the house of representatives. it is remarkable. that s the group that went in and prayed together over this decision. one group of house gop freshmen say they are supporting the boehner plan fun it gives them a bit of quote heartburn. the tea party house members say
economic armageddon on purpose, this year, republicans have to give that up and surrender. throw that away. throw away a democratic offer to cut social security and medicare because a deal where they get 83% of what they want in their own party s eyes is a failure. any deal with a democrat is a failure. instead of that, they must surrender and have no deal at all. mitch mcconnell announcing a plan today to give president obama what he and the democrats wanted all along, debt ceiling gets raised, no binding conditions. we now resume our regularly scheduled economic catastrophe. so in the end, unless this falls a part too because republicans eat each other alive, still a possibility, this would be the 75th time that since j.f.k. the congress has voted to raise the debt ceiling. it will not be tied to a binding agreement about spending cuts or