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greta: there s no there will come a time. greta: you won t go down that road. how about going down this road, what s the difference i realize time and history and a lot has changed what is the different between director of the cia and secretary of defense? doing tv interviews. i didn t do many news conversations when i was director of cia. didn t have much of a ceremonial role. there s a much bigger public dement . also, maybe the best thing, all of my hearings on the hill were closed. greta: is the job much different? it is very different. greta: in what way? first of all just the size. the defense department is the largest and most complex organization on the planet. three million people. i just was up on the hill asking for a budget of 708 billion dollars. so, and you have just like

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