don t know. i mean, it s a good question. i think understanding why a jury reaches a verdict is something that every single trial lawyer in the country would love to be able to answer honestly look, a lot goes into a jury verdict that doesn t even include what happened at the trial. the decisions that are made before the trial, the decisions that the court makes, and that the parties decide about witnesses a call, what evidence to put in i think that at the end of the day it remains true that if the word of michael cohen was not accepted at all, then you could not have convicted president trump. and the jury convicted. so at the end of the day they they looked past what we thought were were fatal flaws and mr. cohen s story and his past and they ve reached a guilty verdict right. but it wasn t just the word of michael cohen. i mean, there was other evidence in this case, the documents they wanted to rehear, david pecker s testimony. i mean, they took all of that into consid
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how it plays with swing voters. all right. well, thank you both very much and thanks to all of you for being with us for this special coverage on this historic day here in new york are breaking news. coverage continues now with ac30, 60 cnn breaking news donald trump is a convicted felon, 34 times over. and good evening from outside the courthouse in lower manhattan, where it all happened just about three hours course ago, there simply is no overstating what happened in the entire history of this country and of the american presidency, not one president or former president has ever been tried we re convicted of anything, let alone multiple felonies. today, a jury of 12 new yorkers supply that dubious distinction. this is their verdict sheet, guilty on all 34 counts a falsifying business records to cover up a hush money payment to an adult film star made right before the 2016 election convicted with the 2024 election faster approaching the 45th president of the united stat
45th president of the united states, as a convicted felon, and donald trump s lead attorney, todd blanche well, join me live. i m kaitlin collins, and this is the source it s one of those where were you kind of moments in american history when the verdict came down on donald trump today. gil we ll t guilty, guilty reverberating 34 times over as the former president s that stone-faced and that new york courtroom about are how you feel about this case or about donald trump, the man. it s an extraordinary stain on the office of the presidency and on donald trump s already tarnished legacy he ll be back in that very same courtroom for sentencing in this case on july 11. that happens just days before he takes the stage for the republican national convention accepting his party s nomination for president but this time as a convicted felon, we saw donald trump earlier raising his fist and defiance it s to the crowd that had gathered outside trump tower like this evening. i
reached a ceiling. so i enrolled in um, gc i would not be the person we are now fewer than seven hours away from cnn s presidential debate world headquarters in atlanta. and very soon president biden is expected to arrive here in atlanta for this highly anticipated face off with former president trump now, this is video of the presidential debate stage. and you saw cnn teams. they re putting the finishing touches. now, this is video of president biden getting off of marine one at joint base andrews and route to georgia, trump is expected to arrive here at the debate side a few hours later, but before the action kicks off tonight, both campaigns have been churning out attack ads potentially previewing the line of attacks that we may see after both candidates take the stage. let s bring in cnn s mj lee live from when the cnn debate site. all right. mj, the supreme court just issued this ruling on emergency abortions in idaho. we did get a glimpse yesterday it is now officially