the right candidate. he s 72% disapproval on inflation. in the 30s on crime. in the 20s on the border and afghanistan. this is key. cnn poll out recently, 2/3s say he s not a leader that we can trust. if you had the right challenger, yes, it s a real possibility. right now the bench is so thin i don t see who can do it. martha: molly, you think biden and harris run together again in 2024? i thought he was too old to run in 2020. i m not sure how good my prognostication is. he will be at such an age that is a problem and you re seeing the issue with his age and how he talks and again, that level of competence that isn t there. martha: thanks very much. great to see you both. that is the story of this friday, january 7.