durham began the probe in may of 2019. august of last year the first conviction is kevin kline who is guilty for altering an email related to the sealed dossier. no signs of wrapping up. what is next, expected to make his first court appearance later in district court. we will see what comes. todd: former associate white house counsel to george w. bush and founder of the national security institute. how significant is this? it is a big deal. when a lawyer is lying to an fbi lawyer and why he is there, it is a key issue. jillian: does this change anyone s mind at this point?
thanks for joining us tonight. good to be with you, ari. your reaction to what is new in these accounts and what should be done? i think it heightens the urgency of an investigation of the kavanaugh investigation. i think that after dr. blasey ford s allegations were public, the second fbi investigation that followed was a bogus investigation. you see chris wray trying to walk away from it and ascribe it to the white house. you see people like max steyer being told that their evidence isn t welcome at the fbi, which is exactly the opposite of the way, you know, investigative agencies ordinarily behave with information. let s jump on that point. you re mentioning one of the students who was named former student in this reporting. there was this 2019 august letter which you were a part of saying in our experience, it s not the practice of the fbi to decline to pursue credible leads