make the network more trump and republican friendly. and that ideological project is so strong that they will do that even if, you know, that cost them viewers and revenue, which it seems to have been doing recently. which brings us to their second reason for this town hall, i believe in this network, this business i understand, ratings. it is not a novel observation to say there is a car crash quality to donald trump. i saw it on social media last night. people hate watching. he compels attention in spite of ourselves. but here s the thing, even that is fading quite a bit. last night, 3 million people watched this event. that s a lot of people, but that s not a crazy number. it is nothing like trump would draw in 2016. tucker carlson used to get that on a typical tuesday night before he got fired. what s galling about the decision to do this trump town hall, to me, is the disingenuousness about the decision to do it. today, cnn chairman that was journalism they did
watched this event. that s a lot of people, but that s not a crazy number. it is nothing like trump would draw in 2016. tucker carlson used to get that on a typical tuesday night before he got fired. what s galling about the decision to do this trump town hall, to me, is the disingenuousness about the decision to do it. today, cnn chairman that was journalism they did last, night we did a lot of news, america was served very well by what we did last night. the state the obvious fact, that wasn t journalism. it s hard to imagine america was well served by hosting nationally televised insurrection rally. the thing is, there are ways to cover donald trump, in fact, there are ways to interview him. i certainly wouldn t object to it. they don t involve a live platform with hundreds of his whooping, cheering super fans
intelligence community, we will believe that the russia did interfere in the election of the president of the united states in 2016. tucker: that clip is from three years ago. this is how conversation the conversation we re having is right now. no one seems to remember that. it was just sunday, it s wednesday, this sunday, like three days ago, that that same person, kamala harris, did a taped interview with nbc news and chuck todd, to explain that republicans who have the same questions about the last election that she had about the election before that should not be allowed to hold office, it s a threat to the republican, they re running for office. in other words, democracy is a threat to democracy. this is the currency of the democratic party, and has been for years. lose the election. immediately question the election. stacy abrams, anyone? we can show you dozens and dozens of clips of this. from kamala harris, from hillary clinton, from jean-pierre.
bring this coalition together? well, i think when i say that barack obama could be a kingmaker or a peacemaker, being a kingmaker means that you can say, all right, in my opinion, barack obama, this is the person who can pull everybody together and you try drive that. but i don t know. there is going to be a lot of resentment in the bernie sanders wing of the party, it s healthy, it s vibrant. they have stuck with bernie sanders. they will be very mad. oh, barack obama is saying this? they re the same democrats who rigged the thing against me in 2016. tucker: sure. obama spent the last three years making america better? no. getting rich by talking to investment bankers and hedge fund moguls. it s true. he has nothing in common with, i would say the bernie sanders he does know how to win two national elections. that means something. hillary clinton didn t listen to him. the obama people were saying you have to go to wisconsin. you have to do these things. she didn t do those
tonight. dana: great to be in person. tucker: it is so nice to be here in your city of 8 million. [laughter] tucker: let s go through the list. obama apparently is not for bernie sanders to the point where he will actually step out and try sabotage him. we know that he is not for biden because he hasn t endorsed him. dana: we also knew that in 2016. tucker: we also knew that exactly right. we also knew, i think to a certainty, that he doesn t like elizabeth warren. that s well-known in washington. who does he like? who is he for? that remains to be seen. so one of the things that former presidents try to do is to stay out of the limelight. tucker: yes. you have to be disciplined if you are going to do it. you can t dip your toe in every once in a while and try to maneuver things from mind the scenes. also, anybody who is talking to president obama, they have you feel self-important. so then you are going to call politico or call other reporters and tell them i talk to