when one fundamental right is lost, that means all fundamental rights are at risk. i will speak to mr. obergefell in just a moment. some democrats are pressing the representatives to codify presidents like obergefell in the law. a move democrats failed to pursue with roe, so today, house nancy speaker, nancy pelosi, released a statement seemingly in response to those calls. she said, in part, in the wake of the supreme court s outrageous and heart wrenching decision of overturning roe versus wade, radical republicans have made clear that they are just setting their sights on other protections rooted in the constitutional right to privacy. house democrats are committed to standing against this ruthless assault on the rights of millions of lgbtq americans. but what that comment means and practice, well, that still remains to be seen. joining me now, jim obergefell himself. civil rights activists and current candidate for the ohio state hearts of representatives and the former
current candidate for the ohio state hearts of representatives and the former lead plaintiff in the supreme court case, obergefell versus hodges. wendy davis, former texas state senator and founder of deeds not words. welcome to you both. jim, let s start with you. how seriously should lgbtq americans take john justice thomas s threat to reconsider cases like lawrence and obergefell? they are those who are saying that other conservatives like roberts and gorsuch would not be willing to go that far. do you believe that? i do not. we should be very concerned. all you have to do is look at the decision in 2015. roberts was not on our side and way anyone would think any of these other extreme right-wing justices would be on our side is fooling themselves. justice thomas is concurring