of nato until 2014. hejoins us in the he joins us in the studio. welcome to newsnight. we havejust been talking about reparations. how important is that for the ukrainian government? they have been engaged intensively in working with president zelensky to look at the future and how it might be secured. or does it, if it prevents peace from being achieved, turn into something that becomes a second order priority? i something that becomes a second order priority? order priority? i would turn it around and order priority? i would turn it around and say order priority? i would turn it around and say that - order priority? i would turn it i around and say that reparations order priority? i would turn it - around and say that reparations and bringing the responsible for war crimes tojustice, are part bringing the responsible for war crimes to justice, are part of a sustainable peace. you cannot ensure a long term, sustainable peace without reparations and without bringing people to just