hello there, everyone. it is 4:00 in new york when you pull back delayers and really try to understand how any one of the most damaging conspiracy theories that have over the last few years now seeped into the mainstream political conversation and corroded the body politic, from election denialism to its violent manifestation in the january 6th insurrection to putin s war in ukraine, to conspiracies about covid-19 and the vaccine and mask wearing, to the discuss around replacement theory, which has actually been cited in the manifestos of mass shooters it is fair to say it is not hyperbolic to argue that tucker carlson is the through line through all of them. he is the champion of conspiracy theories and until today he had one of the largest audiences in cable news for diss sem natting them not anymore. news broke today tucker carlson is out at the network that handed him the biggest microphone of his career that stunning announcement by fox news made this morning in a short
plan that he had in the works and that was to get the machines voluntarily. and as you see in that letter that you cited at the beginning of the segment, through this litigation in georgia some details about what actually happened in georgia have come out. and there s videotape showing that georgia election officials allowed trump allies to access the machines, seize the hard drives and those hard drives have been disseminated, as one memo on the subject says, in the wild so that s the aspect of the scheme that mr. lyons was referring to mr. powell excuse me, ms. powell and mr. giuliani spoke a little bit about it but we re fairly confident that at that meeting that topic was brought up in front of the president, the then president so let me ask you to put your prosecutor hat back on, marc is this conduct that you believe to be chargeable by fani willis? do you think she s just
not fraudulent in fact, giuliani explained they didn t have the evidence otherwise. so this is really just a corrupt scheme to overturn the election and potentially more than one election and you know, when you step back from it, we got so involved over the two years with the committet it s just starkly outrageous what these individuals did i mean, what a threat to our democracy, really. well, the committee has referred four crimes to doj. conspiracy to defraud the united states, obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to make a false statement, insighting assisting and aiding or comforting an insurrection. i mean, none of the people we re talking about, sidney powell, rudy giuliani, none of the lawyers involved have been charged or it hasn t been reported any of them have received word they re targets of a federal investigation. trump doesn t stay in power if he only overturns georgia. i mean, georgia s nonsensical.
meddling i mean, what in your view is the appropriate consequence from law enforcement? well, the district attorney will be taking a look at that as will the department of justice they re going to have an opportunity to learn things the committee could not. if you read and it s online rudy giuliani s testimony. for large most of the questions he refused to answer he claimed it was attorney-client privilege. and we now know that there is a fraud crime exception. he s going to have to answer those questions. but i think it s logical that the president was very aware of this and that giuliani was in cahoots potentially with those who unlawfully seized the software from the machines they knew that the election was
looking back on this insane meeting and the insane things that were discussed, so insane that pat cipollone doesn t know why he has to tell the january 6th select committee why it was such a terrible idea why? other than just sheer disbelief that it ever happened in the first place. is because it is now being recognized as a potential new front of criminal exposure for the twice-impeached now indicted ex-president himself according to a brand new letter to doj and the fbi from a legal advocacy group called free speech for people, since trump was presiding over that meeting and heard about this plan, this idea to seize the machines, he was, quote, at a minimum aware of the unlawful multistate plot, end quote. the letter cites the transcript of derek lyons testimony to the 1-6 select committee lyons served as white house staff secretary and he spoke about how rudy giuliani specifically mentioned getting access to voting machines in georgia in order to find evidence of fraud.