lot of concessions that have been made. many of the members that are abscess ed, he s given us everything we ve asked for. we re still not gonna vote for him. so, i m wondering, does this man wanted us to be subjected to months to a year of not being sworn in, the house not being organized, is he gonna sit through 33 votes, and go back to 1859, that was the last time that happened. oh no! 133 votes, which is 1855 that s happened. again, also, what does this say about you. when the objection to your leadership is similar in history to the objection of leadership that people had. pre civil war people were making objections because they couldn t agree on slavery.
i mean, what kind of leadership have they shown to the american people? and, you know, i think it s also really important to remember and i think you were just talking about this in the previous segment, there s a lot of concessions that have been made, many of the members that are the hold-outs have said, he s given us everything we ve asked for. we re still not going to vote for him and so i m wondering, right, does this man want us to be subjected to months, to a year of not being sworn in of the house not being organized. is he going to sit through 33 votes and go back to, you know, 1859, that was the last time that happened. oh, no. is he going to sit through 133 votes which is 1855 that has happened and, again, also, you know, what does it say about you
raju in a moment, kevin mccarthy has suffered what many are calling five humiliating defeats. that was just today, and you can add that to what happened in the past several days. his own party has told him, no, that comes from congressman laura boebert, that we don t want you. a total of 11 times this week. this frankly is nothing like any of us have seen, at least in our lifetimes. we ve heard about it, may have read about it, known that it could ve happened, but this is the longest speaker contests in 164 years. i don t want to scare you all the way but back in 1855, the contest respeaker at that time, it went for 132 bouts. right now, we are in the small potato category law of this. but here we are tonight, 11 votes, and there is still not a speaker of the house, and this, frankly, all of this dysfunction, what is known as a dispersing display by capitol hill right now, the seemingly complete inability to get the job done or even be able to
dependentant on him and he needs to show that he can work with people and bring all of us together. so this has happened in history before, but it s been 100 years since the last time it happened, 1923. and it hasn t gone to this many ballots any time other than four times in the first half of the 1800s, and maybe like right after, 1855, i think as well and 1859. my point is, it was right before the american civil war. i m wondering if you think the fact it has not been this complicated since right before the american civil war says something about where we are in our politics. well, i think our politics and our country is very divided and i think our institutions are not functioning properly. and american people are tired of it from both sides of the aisle. and then we criticize president biden a lot and there is a lot of criticism we can do, but we also should criticize our branch
i think, you know, in talking with historians over the last couple days these two other moments in time that we have looked back to, 1923, the last time there was a real protracted battle and 1855 when it stretched into a new year, look at what came after those periods of time. the civil war, an extended period of american isolation. kevin mccarthy has said that it doesn t matter how it begins, it matters how it ends, but i think the way this ends is not the end, it is just the beginning of what the next two years are going to look like and that s the real issue. it s not whether kevin mccarthy is seeker, it s whether anyone can be house speaker in this new republican majority effectively. and especially if this rules package is agreed to. paul, correct me if i m wrong, i mean, look, there is a chance here that kevin mccarthy could get those votes he needs and become speaker, but potentially the rules package does not get enough support. yes, that is that is a possibility. becaus