former house speaker and fox news political analyst. great to see you today. your top line thought on where we are as we have seen a failure in the 11th round by kevin mccarthy to become the next speaker. well, from mccarthy s standpoint is good news is he won t break the next record which was 1855 when it took 133 ballots and two months. so he has broken all the records he will be able to break. the other good news for mccarthy is he will come out of this a much better known national figure and the house will be much more important as a result of all the attention everybody is paying. now, i have disagreed deeply with the people who are 10% of the conference who believe that they can basically blackmail the rest of the conference but the mathematics are reality. they can blackmail and they are willing whatever the moral virtue of blackmail is they re willing to do it. i would draw them into two
there is a lot of concessions that have been made. many of the members that are the holdouts have said, he s given us everything we have asked for. we re still not gonna vote for him. so, i m wondering, does this man want us to be subjected to months to a year of not being sworn in, the house not being organized, is he gonna sit through 33 votes, and go back to 1859? that was the last time it happened. oh no! 133 votes, which is 1855, that s happened. again, also, what does this say about you? when the objection to your leadership is similar in history to the objection of leadership that people had. pre civil war people were making objections because they couldn t agree on slavery.
alexandria ocasio-cortez? there is alexandria ocasio-cortez. here it is. ogles? omar? it looks like he didn t vote. andrea, help put this in perspective. the intensity of this has really brought a lot of americans who aren t political junkies into the math of the big board, into the intricacies of behind the closed door dealings. we haven t seen anything like this. to, we haven t. it s historic in every context. we re talking about more than what happened in 1923. we re going back to 1855. this is the 12th of these roll calls. we re seeing the sausage being made behind the scenes and on the floor. we saw the deal making because
we re just trying to get a vote done on the speaker of the house. of course. and i agree with you. and i would like to get that done by tomorrow morning, and i know that is not happening. but it doesn t matter. it s part of democracy. sure. this happened in 1855. it took three months for a speaker to show up. i know i would like this to be happening tomorrow morning, but i think we should look at the story from another angle. it s messy. it s bad. it s uncomfortable. we don t like it. and obviously we want to get to business. but it s democracy. and sometimes it s not perfect. but, you know, the alternative is unthinkable. jake tapper had said earlier that a republican congressional source told him there was tonight to put steve scalise s name into nomination. the congress adjourned instead. do you have a sense there is increasing interest in congressman scalise being the one to end this thing? listen, i m going to vote and i m going to be whomever 80%, 90% of the conferenc
happening in cuba, venezuela, nicaragua, china, north korea. right, but that s not when we look at it from a positive angle? i mean, i think there is another angles of the story. of course, that but no one s actually trying to vote what s happening in cuba or china or nicaragua, where does trying to get a vote done on the speaker of the house. of course, and i agree with you. and i would like to get that done by tomorrow morning. and i know that is not happening. but it does not matter. it s part of democracy. this happened in 1855, and you know, it took three months for a speaker to show up. i know i would like this to be happening tomorrow morning. but i think we should look at the story from another angle. okay. it s messy, it s bad, it s uncomfortable, i don t like it, and obviously we want to get to business. but it s democracy. jake, jake tapper it s not. perfect but the alternative is not applicable. jake tapper said earlier there is a republican rational