it was a difficulty during the conduct of the pandemic. the virus does not respect any borders within the uk. virus does not respect boundaries. we saw this problem with the tiering approach. i think that we need to think as far as we possibly can about ways of getting a unified message and eyesight that with the massive amount of respect. i with the massive amount of respect- - - with the massive amount of respect. with the massive amount of resect. . , ., ., respect. i am coming onto the issue of messaging, respect. i am coming onto the issue of messaging, that - respect. i am coming onto the issue of messaging, that will. respect. i am coming onto the issue of messaging, that will be i respect. i am coming onto the i issue of messaging, that will be a chapter issue of messaging, that will be a chapter i issue of messaging, that will be a chapter i will develop but at the moment, chapter i will develop but at the moment, i would like to stay with the issue moment,
conference in which we were trying to dealwith. i had conference in which we were trying to deal with. i had to level with the public to deal with. i had to level with the public and say, i am afraid a large the public and say, i am afraid a large number of people will lose their large number of people will lose their loved ones before their time and it their loved ones before their time and it was their loved ones before their time and it was a pretty grim press conference. and in that discussion, we were conference. and in that discussion, we were asked about the way through. and i think. we were asked about the way through. and i think, patrick said the idea was to and i think, patrick said the idea was to flatten the curve, suppress the virus was to flatten the curve, suppress the virus with some measure of herd immunity the virus with some measure of herd immunity by the virus with some measure of herd immunity by september, would be a -ood immunity by sep
concerned about it. you have in fact already given evidence concerned about it. you have in fact already given evidence in concerned about it. you have in fact already given evidence in relation i to why you suggested at an earlier stage there were comparisons between swine flu and you have described the importance to you of not talking the economy down. the first line, he doesn t think anything can be done, may ijust ask doesn t think anything can be done, may i just ask you, this doesn t think anything can be done, may ijust ask you, this date the 3rd of march comes after your meeting with the civil contingency secretariat, after the cobra of which there is some early debate about measures and what can be done, and if you did say on the 3rd of march two mr cummings i don t think anything can be done, that casts a very significant light upon what you were being told around that time. i cannot say exactly what i said to my adviser, cannot say exactly what i said to my a
on the other. and those only finally got resolved at the very start of april with the cdc evidence. fin got resolved at the very start of april with the cdc evidence. on the 11th of march april with the cdc evidence. on the 11th of march at april with the cdc evidence. on the 11th of march at a april with the cdc evidence. on the 11th of march at a cabinet april with the cdc evidence. on the 11th of march at a cabinet meeting, l 11th of march at a cabinet meeting, you saidm iith of march at a cabinet meeting, you said. unless 11th of march at a cabinet meeting, you said. unless individuals - 11th of march at a cabinet meeting, you said. unless individuals were| you said. unless individuals were symptomatic. you said. unless individuals were symptomatic, there you said. unless individuals were symptomatic, there was you said. unless individuals were symptomatic, there was no - you said. unless individuals were symptomatic, there was no point l you said. unles
those two cases were on the 30th and sist those two cases were on the 30th and 31st of january and there would almost certainly be more. the central point according to these minutes is that government had a plan to deal with illness. yes. you didn t in fact, plan to deal with illness. 133 you didn t in fact, within the department of health and social care, commission until the 10th of february the plan, the battle plan as you describe in your statement, or the action plan as it was published on the 3rd of march. and therefore, what plan was it that you were referring to cabinet colleagues too, to deal with the illness? firstly, we had the pandemic flu strategy set out in 2011, but by this point we had a whole series of different plans for expanding different plans for expanding different areas. so we had a plan for the expansion of testing within the hd. that plan didn t go fast enough and i had to take serious action to change that in the middle of march. we had a plan for