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be at the first one and the second one. and we really got together starting with the third, brian. it s just all clicked, happened, and we got together. by the way, to make sure we you know that there are four of us here but there really is five five. and we lost a man who we call the president. the pres was our fifth guy, al s shragers a year ago today, and we think about him every day. there s no question about it, for you, harvey, one game stands out in particular. yeah. the super bowl when the giants beat the patriots, when they were having an undefeated season and i had my grandsons at the game and one of them turned around when it was 14-10 and he looked at me and smiled and said our team won, and i said it ain t over til it s over. lou, there s something else that stands out. you guys say, this is all guys,

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