best interests to stop attacking america through this cyber tool that is not much different than other kinds of attacks on the united states. reporter: the research firm cybersecurity ventures predicts that by the year 2025 cyber crime will have cost world with economies $10.5 trillion annually. that is much more than illegal drug traffickers make in a given year. eric, back to you. eric: wow. all right, jonathan, thanks so much. arthel? arthel: president biden s trip abroad this week will end with a high stakes face to face meeting with his russian counterpart, vladimir putin, in geneva on wednesday. and it comes as both leaders agree relations between the two nations are at a, quote, low point following sanctions on russia over its meddling in our elections as well as cyber attacks, human rights abuses and more. well, first of all, there s no guarantee you can change a
2025, the annual losses experienced by the world economy to cyber crime will be in the neighborhood of 10.5 trillion, with a t, that s each year, by the year 2025. that s more than what world governments are paying to deal with the after effects of natural disasters, and far more money than illegal drug traders are making globally each year, j on. jon: that s an unbelievable number jonathan serrie live in atlanta, thank you. certainly. jon: after a 14 month delay due to the pandemic, billionaire trial robert durst could be pushed back again, we ll explain why, after the break. this is hal. this is hal s heart. it s been broken. and put back together. this is hal s relief, knowing he s covered
this is the president putting out what s supposed to be b the whole blueprint for how we would guide the country forward, but the reality is that the budget has become less and. lewis: serious around this just demonstrates this. that this will have a big fight over the wall and nobody will notice a couple of key things here. this is a president who for years was critical of barack obama and all the debt he added, but this budget would add another $7.5 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. and if you use realistic number, which its growth numbers are too aggressive, closer to $10.5 trillion. so look at the sparkly thing over here. create a fight and unfortunately, our entire budget process, which is really important to the governments of country, is becoming less and less important and not being taken very seriously. let me play something for you. we took live the q&a with sarah sanders. prior to that, the new omb director spoke. i want to play what he said about the d
condemnation that we have two parties. we have 22 trillion-dollar national debt right now and we have a budget blueprint that comes out from a white house that says we re going to add another $10.5 trillion to that and they are going to mortgage the futures of my children and my grandchildren and for three generations after this because nobody has the political will to say real things and say hard things and it s really quite shameful. and it s on both parties 100 percent. on the wall, the democrats obviously said they were given nothing on it before they gave him 1.35 billion. so we are going to hear this whole argument over again. and the one thing thought white house is hoping against hope, i m sure is they can convince the people that the situation has changed. democrats are saying look, this is a manufactured crisis. there is no emergency at the border. and now we have seen a number of press reports, the new york times did a press report saying that the border was at a breakin
transportation bill. when we need money for broadband or other infrastructure, that is also something that we can pursue. reporter: sounds like you re saying the administration needs to curb spending because the economy needed the kick. we all hear from the administration that this is an economy that is roaring right now. so with that being the premise, how do you swear having deficits in 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2022, four years going forward of trillion plus dollar deficit. how is that fiscal conservative? i would say we needed deficits to get the economy going. we do have large deficits. that s why we re here transparentally saying that we have a problem as a country. it takes a long time to get out of that mess. we came into office and faced $10.5 trillion right off the bat. instead of being with us and considering our proposals and allowing us to make a factual