had this report. this is exactly what people in the east of poland had feared right at the start of the war. when i was reporting here at the beginning of the conflict through the early weeks during march, particularly, people in this city and closer to the ukraine border were really worried about that conflict spilling over, either deliberately or accidentally. we saw more poles signing up for the territorial defence force. we saw them preparing for in case there were attacks that came across onto their territory. we saw people packing their cars, packing clothes, ready to flee further west. now, the tension has eased after the early weeks of the invasion. that threat hasn t materialised, but this will cause serious concern because whatever is behind this, whatever s caused it, whatever sort of accident has occurred here, we assume that means there has been at least a fragment of missiles which have landed on polish territories and taken lives. that will confirm
that nato members much gather together and discuss whether the territory independence of one member state has been threatened. now, depending on how that conversation will go on how that meeting would go, that s when you look at article 5, and that is exactly what the west has been trying to avoid. it would mean that an attack on one nato member is an attack on all nato. therefore, a proportionate response is necessary. that is partly why the west so far has been providing aid and weapons to ukraine but has not been sending troops on the ground so far. at that point, it could lead to a much bigger global conflict than what we re seeing so far. ., ~.,, ., so far. azadeh moshiri, great to net so far. azadeh moshiri, great to get you so far. azadeh moshiri, great to get you on so far. azadeh moshiri, great to get you on the so far. azadeh moshiri, great| to get you on the programme. i m sure we ll speak again. for now, let s leave azadeh moshiri with her further investigations
is behind this, whatever s caused it, whatever sort of accident has occurred here, we assume that means there has been at least a fragment of missiles which have landed on polish territories and taken lives. that will confirm people s worst fears, whether it was intentional or not. the conflict in ukraine has the potential to spill over and to cause issues here in poland, which is nato. this is very close to the spot wherejoe biden landed at the beginning of april in air force one. that was a show of support for the polish people, for people right across eastern europe who are concerned at that time, a show of support for nato, a message that nato would be with these nations that border ukraine should the conflict spill out of that country. now, these reports are unconfirmed we need to say that. we need to find out exactly what has happened, what has caused this loss of life, but it will cause major concern to people here. life is still going on here
the statement also claimed that there had been no strikes using russian weapons on targets near the ukrainian polish border although of course we although of course we there was this massive russian bombardment today across ukraine. at times like this, at times of crisis and this is a dangerous moment what you need are channels of communication between the opposing sides. you need one side to be able to pick up the phone and talk to the other. we know relations are bad between russia and the west, nato and america, but these channels of communication do exist, and only yesterday, russia s spy chief met his us counterpart, the cia director, for talks. reportedly, they talked about how to avoid nuclear escalation here in the ukraine war. so, you would expect that these kind of moments, conversations would be had you would hope so between russia and the west to find out what actually
the poles are coordinating with nato. working out exactly what happened is vital. the north atlantic treaty says an attack on one member is an attack on the whole alliance. translation: because of the seriousness of the situation i that we re dealing with, the president has finished a conversation with the nato secretary general. we are verifying the circumstances under which we might invoke article four. it follows a day of missile attacks on ukraine, one of the biggest since the war began. there were strikes across the country this was kyiv. most of ukraine s major cities were hit. attacking the infrastructure of the city is a common tactic in war, trying to pressure a government by making the lives of civilians hard. translation: | am against| the war and people have got to remember that you can t give life back. those children who will never