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And politics for the Washington Post and is cbs news contributor we asked him to fill in or nancy cordes who we hope enjoying welldeserved break with her family. Chief White House Correspondent major garrett. Justice and Homeland Security correspondent jeff pegues and david martin is also here. With a portion of interview margaret with Vice President pence on surprise trip to afghanistan. He talked to him about accomplishments of the first year of the Trump Administration and what is ahead for 2018. This president has rolled back record numbers, unleashed american energy, appointed conservative jurists to our courts including neil gorsuch. Thanks to President Trumps leadership to see congress of the United States come together pass largest tax cut in American History. You see toe hold to get more done . As much as weve military, unleashing the american economy. Passing the largest tax cut in American History and other initiatives that this president has advanced, were just getting started. Next year youre going to see this administering move on bigger, which will include infrastructure and welfare reform. Progress that weve made in the war against isis, we virtually crushed the isis caliphate taken back the capital of raqqa, the fight here in afghanistan, taking the fight directly to the enemy. Investment that were making in our military, the growth and optimism in the american economy, i think sets the stage for tremendous growth and opportunity in security and prosperity in 2018. How do you explain to the American People how they should understand what just happened this month with mike flynn pleading guilty to lying to the fbi about his contact with the russian president said he lied not only to you but the fbi thats why the president fired him. Well let the special counsel and others do their job or were going to cooperate but were going to stay very focused on the job. American people elected us to do. Can you clarify how you understand what happened with mike flynn who we known had lied to you. Did you know he had lied to the fbi . I stand by everything ive said with regard to that individual and every other aspect of this. But when he was fired did you know he lied to the fbi . What i can tell you i knew he lied to me. And i know the president made the right decision. With regard to him. Dickerson so the Vice President is fan of the job his boss is doing. Let me ask you about that trip. It was supposed to be part of a larger trip that the Vice President was supposed to take that part was cancelled. It was interesting that trip january, supposed to be two jerusalem and also to egypt, part of what had initially been planned sort of a look, i delivered on this promise to eventually move the capital from tel aviv to jerusalem then trying to soften the blow that was very much dealt to all of the arab world and palestinians. As more and more cancelled the planned meeting with the Vice President , that made that trip tougher, but this bond that was dropped with this decision on jerusalem, the the administration didnt say wed see the blowback, the risks and threats, but some had predicted but you have to understand that symbolically the decision on jerusalem will continue to be a Sticking Point for the arab world. It may not be the breaking point, because they have broader concerns with iran right now but it is certainly something that the administration is not going to quickly move beyond. Dickerson we heard the vice presid year, give us your assessment . Very revealing. Last week of this year effectively in washington, yearend wrap up press conference was not donald trump it was Mitch Mcconnell. If you wanted to look at the person singularly most responsible for accomplishments on the guess particular side its not donald trump its Mitch Mcconnell the Senate Majority leader who held with the exception of one issue health care, republicans together on every single aspect of what president tried to accomplish. Tax cuts were passed because mcconnell held his conference together. All of the 12 circuit judges, a record for any first year of any american president because Mitch Mcconnell held his conference together. And he got 49 votes on health care, closer than anyone probably could have under those similar circumstances. So Mitch Mcconnell put the bow on this year and quite properly mcconnell who for very first time this last week the president actually praised on twitter because it has finally gotten through to him through many people inside and outside the white house, mr. President , forget what steve bannon says you cant get anything without Mitch Mcconnell. Dickerson stay can with congress you heard mike pence talk about infrastructure, welfare reform, given what major laid out also fact Democratic Party that doesnt want to help out this president , what do you think it will look like . Mother likely those two infrastructure for sure. It was quite revealing how very quickly this week paul ryan tried to pivot to entitlement reform and very quickly Mitch Mcconnell and republican senators said, no, no way. Because remember the math. 5149 is new math starting january 3rd. Doug jones comes to the Senate Democrat from alabama, courtesy of steve bannon, exactly, the only thing that most senators rights now believe could start the year off in a good way is working on some kind of plan to fund big Construction Projects basically in this country. The question of course as always seems to me, how will you pay for. That given that you just splashed tax cuts republicans will probably turn around suggest that entitle. Reform is the way to do that spin respects but lot of those republican senators, fair number of congressional house members who are from suburban swing districts are going after medicare, social security, is unpopular thing to do in an election year. Are going to resist it. Dickerson the Vice President said isis decimated, is that accurate if so why has it been why has this come to pass . I this its what you say the caliphate as it existed in owe rook and syria is crushed. Used to control all of northern syria, northern iraq, western iraq, theyre now down to few pieces of territory alonge i think the Trump Administration deserves some credit for that. The weight of american airstrikes and capabilities of American Special Operations Forces would sooner or later crush the isis caliphate no matter who was in the white house. The way that general mattis, secretary of defense, was to give his commanders more authorities to make decisions in the field. So when they saw target of opportunity they didnt have to come all the way back through the chain of command to the white house to get approval. They just did. Now, isis, that once existed is almost dead. As secretary mattis says over and over, theyre not defeated. The caliphate is going to become isis the movement and its in afghanistan, somalia, yemen, name almost any country there, these arent fighters who for most part escaped from iraq and syria, these are just angry young men looking for a cause to serve. Dickerson jeff, Vice President talked about michael flynn. Michael flynn at the heart of both relationship with the russians among trump advisors but then also obstruction question about whether the president told the fbi director to go easy on the flynn investigation. Where are we at the end of the year with these cluster of investigations . Well, theyre ongoing. The questions i know the white house is interested in this to wrap up, it doesnt seem like theres an end in sight right now. You have mike flynn who was given thisly deal. He is a figure track straddles the cans i can, campaign, fist few weeks of the white housef hes investigators you see what they may be looking at, at least according to some of the people i know who have worked with mueller in the past. They know how he builds his cases. He tries to get some cooperating witnesses which he has now with flynn and popadopoulos, the Foreign Policy advisor who also tookly deal. You wrap up these witnesses, but you dont tip your hand according to these people who work with mueller to what the main charges are going to be at the end. So thats the question. When will this end and what are they trying to get out of michael flynn. Dickerson well take short break now, but well be back in a minute with more from our panel. You cant predict the market. But through good times and bad. At t. Rowe price. Weve helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. T. Rowe price. Invest with confidence. When food is good and clean and real, its ok to crave. And with panera catering, theres more to go around. Panera. Food as it should be. Dickerson were back with our panel. Major, i want to start with you. Lot of Management Changes at the white house, with where are we. John kelly has brought discipline and functionality to not only the way decisions are brought to the president but who is allowed to bring them to the president. Aney but that doesnt change the fundamental truth about the trump approach to the presidency. Ive been trying to think of a metaphor. To make America Great rock concert there are two songs, forgotten americans and america first, 12 solos. By the same so lowist on different instruments. That so lowist is donald trump. When he says interviews im only one that matters, he fundamentally means that. And everything about this administration pivots off of that truth. He is the central actor, the central soloist in everything. Imagine yourself at the rock son silt and hear 15solos youll be tired, because you get the soloist and very little else. You talk to cabinet secretaries, we do all these things but hard to sorted of get people aware of it. The drums, electric guitar and every other instrument, that is both the reality draw of the trump presidency, the management reality and exhausting reality. Dickerson by the time he gets to the margaret, pivot right from that to Rex Tillerson. Give us a sense of that powerful job, is rex going to stay in it. Major is right theres only one star in the show and everyonish that administration is keenly aware of it. In the past few weeks in particular youve seen secretary tillerson be a bit more assertive, particularly you see this in this newly assertive position perhaps ukraine, to open up this idea that we could express more support and actually provide weaponry to the ukrainians which is a shot across the bow at russia which youve heard tillerson say, this is the one issue of ukraine where we ca broader deal with russia. I think you will continue to see him quietly move on that front. Along with more sanctions on russia, along with more assertive position and also more outspoken in the new year but he clearly doesnt want to try to compete with the star in this show on the main stage. Dickerson well see how long we can extend this metaphor. David, let me ask you about north korea where does that stand at the end of this year. 365 days further down the load of a collision course. U. S. Is making to give up Nuclear Weapon programs, north corey saw not going to accept. North korea is developing a weapon of Intercontinental Ballistic Missile that the Trump Administration says it cannot accept. Something has got to give and probably going to take some major decisions by somebody in the year 2018. To get us off this collision state of Homeland Security . The main focus right now is on these lone wolf actors. Law enforcement doesnt like to call them that because they feel floor files the act. But these are people that are harder to spot. They are sitting in a basement with some, radicalized online with the array of information op line they can be radicalized within weeks and carry out an attack. The fbi does about a thousand investigations, isis related in the u. S. , thats been consistent number over the last couple of years. But spotting these people is so difficult because they blend in, you dont really have a history of Law Enforcement with them. And so trying to wrap them up and get them is a problem for law enforce. And will continue in 2018. Dickerson end that round talking about paul ryan, their relationship with the where the now, it was rocky year, is everybody on the same team now areng you think will create more potential conflict . This is by far their best week. I think you saw that in their public praise of each other, and fact that they all understood this was a significant win not only for them but for the Republican Party and its existence. Youre going to see some more disagreements about what to do next year, both officially and politically. There are competing priorities obviously in the house and the senate. Mcconnell doesnt want to rock the boat, ryan is eager to try to take another step in terms of looking at sort of domestic policy and what could possibly be shaped in more conservative image. Both of them struggle every day with the fact that the president does not grasp, care about or really talk to anyone about details of this stuff. Dickerson ask you about under reported story from the year. What would you put in that category . One overseas one at home. That relationship with saudi arabia. When i covered the trump very first stop hed made would be riyadh. His orientation tolt muslim world in general and possible restoration in the words of the saudi kingdom about islam. And taking on terrorism in way that didnt before could be potential farreaching story. At home, its energy. That administration has 20th Century Point of view on energy, extraction and exploitation. It does not have an embrace sieve renewable or 21st Energy Concept that will radically change where we drill, where we dont drill, environmental implication. Dickerson margaret, what is your under cover story . One thing, what were seeing in terms of the lost generation, this refugee crisis that was so focused on syria has now continued, worsened, become a Health Epidemic where youre talking about conflict in yemen, outbreak of cholera, looking at the democratic republic of the congo where unicef predicting of five could die because of the health risks and issues of displacement. Whether its syria, africa, throughout the middle east, these issues, United States isnt talking about as much, isnt leading on, is only articulating in Homeland Security point of view. But these things have consequences in years to come in terms of radicalization, health risks. Dickerson david, what is the under covered story . You heard Vice President pence say we are rebuilding our military. Not so much. Theres a big new defense spending bill but its just a wish list until you get a deal in congress. So the fact is, that the pentagon along with the west is going to continue to operate on these continuing resolutions which keeps you going along the same path. The heads say that theyre readiness is falling apart. And when you listen to the details of what an Aircraft Carrier has to go through these days to get underway, when we saw those three carriers operating off the Korean Peninsula awhile back, the machination, is that it took to get one of those carriers underway, they were stealing planes, and parts, just have air wing to go on there. The secretary of the air force says that when she saw on her first briefing on the new readiness when she came into office she said, there must be some mistake. This has got to be wrong. Of course, it wasnt wrong. Nobody should conclude from that that were about to be inferior to anybody. Were still number one, but as secretary of the air force dont mean were not going. But it does mean fewer come back. Two quick ones. First off, there was assassination attempt on a top House Republican this year. And this was the most threatening year for lawmakers in history, at least 1,650 threats against lawmakers as of late july. I couldnt get updated stats in time for this but safe to surmise it was at least double last year. The other, internal displacement crisis in this country. At least 230,000 people have left puerto rico. Since hurricane maria, theyre in florida, georgia, texas, north carolina, new york. Theyre going to reshape the politics of those states. But theres an island that needs to be rebuilt and United States didnt do it this year. I would agree. Puerto rico is just what has happened there and u. S. Virgin islands, the lack of focus on those issues there, not exactly my beat but something that im but also if you look at overseas, european officials were saying that theyre not getting outflow of isis fighters back in new york, that they were anticipating. I talked to top Counter Terrorism officials here in the u. S. Who agree with that. Dickerson prediction time. What are you going to predict in 2018 . Might recall that last year i predicted that james comey was going to stick around. Dickerson youre a humble man. So this year, i wont be as bold but i will say that i think the Mueller Investigation is going to, one way or another is members of congress a big decision in 2018. It will end up in their lap. Dickerson david, whats your prediction . As long as were confessing. Last year i predicted that President Trump a would have face to face meeting. I was dead wrong. So, im not going to touch north korea. Im going to predict that abu bak, the leader of isis will meet his end in 2018. One of the big four congressional leaders, nancy pelosi, paul ryan, Mitch Mcconnell will either be gone or on their way out by this time next year. Dickerson major . The president is going to have to come to terms with what the resistance means. You talk to ed gillespie, he got more votes, but lost by nine points the victor got even more. Says, i met the resistance and its real. The midterm elections everything that is on the agenda will have to require democratic votes, that will be larger compromises than this president has shown any inclination to achieve. 2018 for this white house and this president if it has any accomplishments at all will have to resistance, that will be a fascinating story. Dickerson margaret . Secretary of state Rex Tillerson does not resign in january as had been predicted and asked many times. Hell stick around. I think he will be engaging more and more assertive as i said, but i think one of the areas that is is going to really take up a lot of his time is trying to save whatever chance of diplomacy with north korea but we may see also more immediate crisis with iran. Dickerson thank you. I want to thank everybody on our panel today for today but also for all the work you do for cbs and for face the nation. Your reporting, insights and curiosity about the news and whats going on in washington and around the world, help us inform and make sense of what has been a very unusual year. Well be back in a moment. Hey ron theyre finally taking down that schwab billboard. Oh, not so fast, carl. Oh no. Schwab, again . Index investing for that low . Thats three times less than fidelity. And four times less than vanguard. Whats next, no minimums . No minimums. Schwab has lowered the cost of investing again. Introducing the lowest cost index funds in the industry with no minimums. 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Hurry in and sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down and a complimentary first months payment. Dickerson well kelp back to face the nation. Big political question for 2018 whether republicans will build on their single Party Control or whether democrats will flip control of the senate, house or both. Well look where things stand as we move into 2018, we turn to dan balz who is the chief correspondent at the Washington Post. His colleague Karen Tumulty is National Political correspondent our own Anthony Salvanto is cbs news director of elections. First, well get to the house and senate and break those down. I want to start with the very broad question for all three of you, dan, start with you. What is the landscape look like here at the end of 2017 for next years election . Everything we see at this point, john, is a very, very difficult landscape for republicans, almost every measure or every event that has happened so far this year politically has been bad for the republicans and good for the democrats. You can look at it in terms of the president s Approval Rating which is historically low for first term president. You can look at it in the nature of the current preference for how the house should break, democrats have a significant advantage on that at this point. And we know that from the recent elections through the enthusiasm is much greater or appears to be greater among democrats than republicans to turn out that is often the key indicator in midterm elections. Dickerson karen . Its true. Midterm elections especially in president s first term are almost never good news for president. Only twice since 1934 has president s party picked up seats in the first midterm of his first term in office. But it really does seem like the republicans are in fact heading into some really tough here. And its true, generic ballot, rather see democrat or republican in office, democrats are ahead in that by double digits. But i agree. I think this in Enthusiasm Gap is really the biggest thing republicans ought to be worried about right now. Dickerson get to the roots of that enthusiasm where it comes from. Anthony, where do you put the needle down on the record here . Really, the math is still a little bit advantage of the republicans, at least on the senate side. The reason forethat is that the democrats are defending more seats and any time that happens, you have a harder hill to climb. Look, on the house side, its true, that we see a National Polling that more people are now saying that they would like to see the democrats in control. But remember that those polls are talking to people in very heavy democratic districts as well as heavy republican ones. That generic ballot can oversight the case. Many specific house seats could be competitive. And on that side there may be just enough for the democrats to put the house in play, real question Going Forward is, can they expand that. Can they make more seats than ordinarily come into view. Dickerson on that generic ballot isnt it the case, this question would you vote for republican or democrat even though its imprecise number, when its that big, people are favoring the democrats that much isnt that sort of a blunt indicator when the number is that big, its still does tell you something. Absolutely. It gives you general sense of the direction. Theres no question that that direction is pointed towards democrats. Its maybe half as many. If you see national ballot, national generic ballot they might win maybe half that much in the actual election. But there again, going to be where they can start to try to persuade people and as you look around the country, a lot of these suburban districts, lot wealthier districts that have gone republican and economic issues, particularly places that theyre targeting and if they can put those in play then we start to see really competitive house election. The first place to look will be there are 23 house districts and democrats have to pick up 24. There are 23 house districts where there is a republican incumbent sitting in a district that was won by Hillary Clinton. And these districts are all over the country, theyre in california, texas, florida and they big range, lot of suburban but lot are rural and lot of them have large numbers of hispanics. Theres one other element in terms of the tempering of where we are. We have an odd situation which is a president with very low Approval Ratings at a time when have historically over the last 17 years, lowest unemployment rate, a stock mt breaking records weekly. And steady economic growth. For the republicans if they can in one way or another force people to think about the state of the economy rather than their view of the president , they could hope to do better than a lot of this polling suggests at this point. History says that there are two other times in the last half century where you have this anomaly of low president ial approval and low unemployment. In both those cases, president ial approval turnedded out to be more significant and party lost a lot of seats. In the last three mid terms most people have said that the mid term vote is about the president. Theres no question hes a factor and Approval Rating looked like dickerson thats where enthusiasm youre talking about comes from. Explain that for people, its linked to the president. What pollsters ask, how excited are you about this election. They look for how engaged people are with the fact that theyre even is an election this year. Just this week, the wall street journal, the pollster found a tenpoint Enthusiasm Gap between democrats and republicans. Thats really important, too. Because remember, in mid terms, turn out is lower. And folks who tend to vote are a little disproportionately republican, at least recently. What the democrats have taken out of these last couple of elections, virginia and alabama, is that they can motivate their base. People who dont ordinarily come out except for president ial years have been willing to come out f. They can do that, then that changes the dynamic. Because there are folks sitting in these districts who normally out mid terms, turn out goes, they reshape that and whole electorate changes. Dickerson let me ask you about the senate. Karen sketched out the situation in the house. After doug j democrat next year after this that exciting race this year, there will be a two seat majority for republicans, democrats need to pick up two seats to gain control of the senate. Ten democrats are up for reelection. In recent history states have tended to vote for senator the way they have for president s thats one factor there. Theres only one republican running in state where Hillary Clinton won thats in nevada. Then some other interesting states, tennessee and then minnesota are on. Where you see the senate shaking out . Id make two points. First of ail if we were having this conversation a year ago we would be talking about the likelihood of potentially significant losses for the democrats in the senate because as you say, theyre defending so many seats and defending them in states that trump won. However, of those ten five are truly red, five are what i would call more swing states. But whats the turbulence that the republicans have run into theres now at least possibility of democrats being able to take control of the senate. I think its still very difficult. But they have three opportunities. Arizona, nevada and possibly tennessee because they have candidate there the former democratic governor who may be the only democrat who can win statewide. But im not predicting at this point that he will. And many of their incumbents are in reasonably good shape or better shape than you might have thought six or eight or ten months ago. I think its still heavy lift for democrats to take over but at least hawaiian opportunity this they wouldnt have dreamed up at the beginning of the trump presidency. Dickerson karen, when dan talks about senate seats being in more of swingy areas than you have classic seats that are up where democrats are trying to defend territory in West Virginia where trump won by 45 points. Others are in michigan, wisc so is that the distinction, another one we should watch for the rust belt states that flipped and went for trump in the president ial, how do you think that will play out in the Senate Elections . Turns out i spent some time in michigan. Actually looking at the governors race there. What i found is that democrats sort of activist base, people who are engaged now, are so traumatized by seeing what they thought were going to be easy wins for Hillary Clinton last time around that also contributes to the enthusiasm factor. They were caught napping in 2016. There is a determination i think not to have that happen again. Dickerson anthony, another thing should talk about with respect to the senate there are primaries to come. We saw in alabama some extraordinary interparty republican fighting, comments, people even saying they were no longer republicansf National Committee supported roy moore, how do you think the primary process plays out in terms of, well, just how do you think it plays out . The thing to watch this spring. We can be sitting here a year from now the landscape will be very different. Behind all of this is which direction does each party go . Republicans are stilln that conversation. We talked a lot about populist wing of the party, part that is voting against anything seen as the establishment. Versus the more traditional conservative wing. And if you start to see primary challenges to sitting incumbent republican senators, in otherwise safe states, then you start to get a dynamic like you saw, like many people saw in alabama where the republicans could potentially nominate someone who cant appeal to a drawedder electorate. And then you get a potentially safe red seat that becomes in play. Same thing on democratic side. r conversation about which direction their party goes and so both parties are having to see that. Dickerson is that delayed by democrats thinking, look, if we just run against the president we take advantage of this enthusiasm from our base, letsr postpone the question about what exactly the Democratic Party means because we got chance to playoff of this. Or is there going to be a real conversation . I think there will be partial conversation but ini think at ts point for most democrats the view is, the harder they can go after the president and tie their republican opponent to the president , the better off theyre going to do. They will defer that conversation about who they are as a party for the 2020 democratic nomination battle. They may pay some price for that. Im not understating how significant that challenge will be for them. But i think for the mid term, focusing on the president , one of the problems that republican candidates potentially fa President Trump in order to energize their base and the cost of that in general election if they become so identified that people think, well, just another trump dickerson right. Ran into virginia. Also finding that lot of these republicans who are running for the senate are not willing, trips, to commit to voting for Mitch Mcdonnell to continue as their leader as well. On the on hand they dont want to be too, too close to be establishment on the other they dont want to offend the base. Its really its really a delicate act for a lot of them. Dickerson anthony, how much do you think danger for democrats to not have something to run on to just focus on the president , because obviously they focus on the president that encourages the republican base. One of the things so interesting in 2016 that you mentioned democrats didnt win as many seats as some thought they might, is t donald trump was a different kind of republican, he was a brand unto himself. And they had a hard time tying the Republican Senate candidate to donald trump. The question to watch is, whether or not they can do that now because so many people have seen the president sort of different brand altogether. Dickerson the Washington Post, wrote piece how the president is dying to get out there and campaign, we know all president s loveco to getni out n campaign so much more fun than what they have to do in washington. How does that work out, a situation where people think, go campaign somewhere else, mr. President or he just spends his time in the states and districts, how do you think that plays out, his active participation. We know that he loves to get out. We know that those big rallies energize him that he loves to do that, that he creates enthusiasm as well as gets energy back. Hes going to want to be out there a fair amount. Ff candidates to embrace him too closely in some of these competitive races, so i think individually all of those candidates will have to decide how close do i want the president to be. Ed gillespie talking about virginia wanted to keep him at arms length, it didnt matter in the end he still got beat pretty badly. Dickerson how do you think policy landscape will show up. Are we going to have a bunch of fights that will be about value issues, cultural issues, things that get voters excited or is there any way which the policy might actually be part of the conversation . Well, the big policy issue right now especially coming on the heels of the tax bill, is whether they are going to be brave enough to begin real conversation on entitlements. That is san absolutely treacherous issue to bring uppish election issue, Mitch Mcconnell has already said it aint happening here unless theres some democratic buy in, which there wont be. Dickerson all right. Quickly. Remember, republicansy older voters very heavily. That does put things is into different context. Dickerson thanks to all of you. Well be right back. David. Whats going on . Oh hey thats it . Yeah. Everybody two seconds dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. Through the Tuition Assistance program, every day mcdonalds helps more people go to college. Its part of our commitment to being americas best first job. Dickerson its time now to take a look at perfect timing. We spoke earlier with best selling author daniel pink, his new book is out in hearing loss january called when the scientific secrets of perfect timing. You say this is not a howto book but whento book, tell we think that timing is an art. Make hour decisions about when to do things based on gut instincts, in tuition, but timing is actually a science that crosses multiple digs palestinians, theres a huge body of Research Showing us how to make better evidencebased decisions about when to do things. It turns out they have material affect on our well being, productivity, creativity, our health, many domains of life. Dickerson what i love is also the way in which its not just, are you a morning person or evening person although you have great explanation and description and a little test how you can figure out who you are in that group. But also when you choose to do certain kinds of thinking, like creative thinking versus, explain that. Absolutely. What whole range of scientists have found that the day has hidden pattern, basically a peak, trough, and rebound. Most of us proceed through the day in that order. Peak, trough, rebound. It turns out were better off doing analytic during the peak which is in the morning. Trough not good for actually danger zone in many ways, doing our administrative stuff during the trough. During recovery turns out were better at more creative tasks, tasks that require a little bit more looseness rather than that heads down, locked in approach. Dickerson thats when flashes of insight come. Often. When were at our peak were very vigilant. Were able to keep up distraction, thats a feature when youre doing the analytic work. When youre doing Creative Work you actually want a little bit more looseness, you want let a few distractions in so to mix up the soup a little bit. So during the recovery period, which gibb mo of us is the late afternoon, early evening we do better on what are called insight tasks. Dickerson history fouled us up, we needed to create time and watches and hours we know when the bus arrives. But did we figure out system that is basically always fighting with our own natural h. I. T. Isms . Its really interesting question. Because one of the things that i discovered researching time itself is that a lot of things we thinkf completely human inventions designed to corral time. So an hour has no natural substance to it. A minute doesnt have any natural substance, certainly a year does because planet goes around, the planet spins on its axis, were trying to corral time. Its v hard to do and time is very illusive subject. One of the thing thats happened is that, i think as consequences when we think about our own performance we focus on what were going to do. We focus on often how were going to do it. Focus on who were going to do it with. We put when questions over there at the kids table saying its not that important. The science telling us its demonstrably important. Dickerson to put at the front. One of the things i love about the book, lot of practical things you can use. Absolutely. Dickerson give people a little sense of that, both in your daytoday, but also you talk for example about mid life and guidance that give us there are all kinds of things. Number one is that, think about science of breaks. Not so many years ago people stayed up all night were heroes in the workplace because they were tougher than the rest of us. Then the science of sleep began emerging, no, those people are fools. I think the science of breaks is what science of sleep was a decade ago about breaks in the surface is really instructive how we can work better. So, we need to take more breaks, period. One of the best things that ive done myself is that every day i have a break list. I write down two breaks im going to take during the day. We also know from the science that breaks are better taken with other people rather than solo even for introverts like me. Better taken fully detached, dont bring your phone. Were better off moving during our breaks than being stationary. Or near nature. Stow what the science is telling us that if we take these regular breaks ten, 15 minutes were going to feel to perform higher. Make a break list, thats one of my favorite tips. Dickerson go outside while even evidence that just looking out window seeing a tree is better than being in a windowless room. Dickerson let me also ask you about teams. How timing works when youre working with lots of other people as well. Theres really Interesting Research on how teams synchronize like choirs, rowing teams, Delivery Services and one of the things that is so interesting about our nature is that it seems that coordinating with other people, being in sync and in time with other people is something fundamentally human about that. And we have a propensity for it. One of the things thats so interesting about that if you look at, lets say exercise as an example, exercise is absolutely good for you, right . It makes you boosts your mo mood, prophylactic against depression, controls your weight, all good. Well, theres kind of new exercise out there its chorale just extraordinary. Physiological level and psychological level. Useful for cancer patients, improves your immune response, it boosts your mood, theres something about synchronizing with other people that makes us feel good. It also helps when kids do synchronous activities they actually afterwards are a little bit more, what social psychologists call pro social. Will play with kids who arent like them, more likely to cooperate, more likely to help. Dickerson we all should join roving bands of walking singers . I think theres some good evidence, like in schools, that choir, chorale groups have ancillary activity but something actually that boosts the moods of kids, improves their social and Emotional Learning and conceivably make them better citizens of school. Dickerson daniel, thank for being with us. 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