Announcer tonight, stephen welcomes charlie rose, gayle king and Norah OdonnellDeray Mckesson and Bonnie Mcfarlane featuring jon batiste and stay human and now its time for the late show with Stephen Colbert captioning sponsored by cbs cheers and applause thank you welcome to the late show im Stephen Colbert happy friday to all of you, right . cheering which, of course, this is friday. Of course, america is still buzzing about Donald Trumps running mate, indiana governor mike pence. Theres pence fever. One of the symptoms, you know who mike pence is. Its curable. Dont think about him for a while. You will forget who mike pence is. In the last 24 hours, we have learned so much about governor pence, for instance, that he currently has a 40 Approval Rating in his state. So trump could win indiana just because voters want pence out of there. cheers and applause but thats not the only big announcement coming out of the trump campaign, because yesterday we learned who will be speaking at the Republican National convention. And i was surprised to see senator ted cruz got a speaking slot. During the campaign, cruz called trump a moron, and trump gave him the nickname lyin ted. Now cruz says he fully supports trump. So i guess he was lyin ted after all. laughter applause lyin ted meanwhile, Hillary Clinton was campaigning in virginia yesterday and she showed that she was down with millennials. I dont know who created pokemon go, but we need to figure out how to make them make pokemon go. To the polls. laughter applause stephen i may not know about angry birds, but angry bernie just endorsed me applause donald trump will candy crush our economy. Im not just a grandma, im an instagrandma hashtag snap chat. Internet. Com. Speaking of pandering to millennials, im a big fan of dora the explorer. Jon oh, dora. My nephew liked dora. Stephen but dora has uno problemo mas grande, because the 15yearold actress who voices dora the explorer was alleging that she called another student a bleep for refusing to try an ecigarette. laughter im pretty sure cbs bleeped that word that began with a p, so let me put it this way. You know that character, puss in boots . Well, imagine if he was a vagina. Thats the area, okay . laughter this accusation seems shocking, but there have been signs of doras bullying for years. Hey, boots get the talking joint out of backpack and smoke it or youre gay come on, smoke me, boots im fun i dont want to. My mom says its bad. Come on stop being such a little bitch stephen now, see . Weve seen it now say hi to jon batiste and stay human, everybody band playing cheers and applause stephen oh, delicious folks, i am jazzed for the upcoming republican and Democratic National conventions starting next week. Because we here at the late show will be broadcasting live every night. So anything could happen. I might say a bunch of curse words if i mess up. Or if i quote trumps victory speech. I dont know. laughter and weve come up with a super fun way for you to keep track of the Convention Action at home with the late shows convention bingo cards head to www. Colbertlateshow. Com conventionbingo, and print your very own, randomly generated bingo card of potential events at the conventions. Then watch the conventions at home and mark the corresponding space. See if you see something. For instance, at the republican, mark a space if you see a rock star you thought was dead. laughter or mark this space if you see ben carson with his eyes open. laughter will someone mention reagan . Thats why its the free space. laughter so thats fun all next week. Do that. Take a photo. If you get a filled out card, send it to me do something nice for you. They havent told me yet. Theres another card for the Democratic Convention bingo. You could come up winner if you spot a white person attempt to speak spanish or. laughter oh, a deep sense of resignation. Or if chelsea has a third child and they name it hope. So head to cbs. Com conventionbingo and get yours. Im not saying that this is a drinking game. But one of us will be drinking, and i will win. laughter applause for the record, this is coffee that you know of. laughter you know, as host of a National Talk show, i wield tremendous power. For instance, i can tape a show on thursday but say its friday and no one will know applause i would never do that. I would never do that. Ever. Because this is a relationship of trust. I would never do that. But i could if i wanted to. laughter and yet there are those even more powerful than i am. Historys most despotic leaders. People like genghis khan, kim jong il and rihanna. laughter cross her and she will sentence you to the. sings work, work, work, work, work camps. laughter these merciless tyrants have but two things in common not having much in common, and a big furry hat band playing cheers and applause stephen now that this hat is upon my head, i am endowed with unquestionable power this is due to my hats two main attributes its bigness, and its furriness. Any proclamations i make while thusly enhattened are now and forever law. Let us begin. drums henceforth, the cereal grapenuts is now called breakfast gravel. laughter from this day forward, anyone who stands in line at the airport gate before theyre called for boarding must stand for the entire flight. laughter applause if you wear plaid shorts, funny shoes, and spend hours riding in a tiny car, you are not an athlete. You are a clown. laughter applause let it be written, sneezes shall be referred to by their new name, facegasms. And you dont say bless you. You say was that good . If someone tries on your glasses and says wow, youre blind, you may gouge their eyes out with a fondue fork. applause be it known if you can make a pocket phone that gives me access to all human knowledge, you can make a screen stronger than a pringle. laughter applause legally they must make an allmale sisterhood of the travelling pants. laughter applause hamburgers arent square. Wendys is officially selling meatloaf slices. laughter every bathroom stall door will now reach all the way to the floor. For the love of god, this shall finally be done. cheers and applause the hat has spoken well be right back with charlie rose, gayle king, and Norah Odonnell. cheers and applause nexium 24hr is now the 1 choice of doctors and pharmacists for their own frequent heartburn. For complete protection all day and night make nexium 24hr your 1 choice. Dont you dare follow your dreams. Think big. Or demand your own space. Dont you dare leave it all behind. Dont you dare ask whats next. Introducing the firstever cadillac xt5. Ugh. Waa. Wow ohhh aaaaahhh find your diet pepsi emoji today. Are how clear windexith makes your windows . Introducing. Schmindex look windex makes glass too spotless and too dangerous. But shmindex makes it dirty shmindex. Order yours today brewmaster. Risktaker. I sold everything i had to own a brewery. You might have heard its name. Stella artois be legacy cheers and applause stephen welcome back, everybody thank you so much folks, my first guests are the cohosts of cbs this morning, but over the next two weeks youll have a rare chance to see them at night in the primetime coverage of the Republican National convention and the Democratic Convention. Please welcome charlie rose, gayle king, and Norah Odonnell. band playing cheers and applause stephen nice to see all three of you. Thank you for being here. He sang lovely day when we were coming out. Stephen i know, it is a lovely day. The biggest thing i wanted not to do was trip. I tripped frankenstein. Stephen you dont have the boots or the prosthetics on your face. Indeed. Stephen that was the nicest thing you did was surrender your dignity for one of my shows because you have a lot of dignity. Physically, i never looked better. Stephen you looked fresh. He likes to surrender his dignity. Stephen does he . Id like to hear stories of charlie surrendering his dignity. Or not. Stephen before we talk about the conventions next week, just for the people watching at home and in here, were actually recording this on thursday evening for the friday show, and right before the show, we found out, and the people in the audience may never know here that there has been an attack in nice, france where dozens of people have been killed. What do we know about it so far . What can you guise tell me from cbs news . We know a lot were injured as well as those killed. We know the vehicle crashed into a crowd. Stephen its a tragedy. People died in the south of happening. Stephen theyre watching the fireworks celebration because its bastille day. Moments before we were walking in. This is terrorism related. One of the hardest things we have to do as a team in the morning is we wake up a lot of times to these events. Whether domestically or internationally in the past two years, weve had way too many of these tragedies to cover. Stephen for next week, we found out a lit moral about what was happening at the Republican National convention, who the speakers are and arent. All trumps Adult Children are going to be speaking next week, which should be fun to have them there. Yes. Stephen you will be there for the full week. How many of these have you done . How many of these conventions have you gone to . My sixth. The first one i went to was 1968. Stephen in chicago . Yes. Stephen lets hope its not as exciting as that. Yeah. York times. It was the most exciting thing. You were a driver . Es. Who did you drive around . Reporters back and forth between the convention and their hotels. Are you available next week . Stephen are the conventions fun to go to . Is it, like, news camp . Because all the news organizations are there in one building. Its like a festival. I think theyre fun, especially the republican one. This is will be my fifth. Its very unpredictable what can happen at the republican convention. You didnt mention antonio sebato, jr. Is going to be speaking. Remember him from dancing with the stars. Stephen its going to be a sexy convention. This must be refreshing. What fake convention average ive done, this will be my fifth time making jokes about conventions, one of the things i would make jokes about, like the real news people, it was all a staged pageant for years and you here, should we be covering this, but this is the first time it feels like there could be big news on a daily basis. Historically, the broadcast networks have reduced the kind of attention weve given these because we believe theyre so heavily scripted and commercial. This convention with trump is a seat of the pants. Remember when Clint Eastwood came out with his chair . I talked to a republican source who said this is Clint Eastwood times 20, what were going to see. A loyal republican. It will be great forio. You will be live. Stephen writing jokes up to the last minute. Something tells me you will have a lot to say. Before i came in today, they were telling me, tennis balls and sleeping bags are banned outside the arena b okay outside the arena. That just makes no sense to me whatsoever. I understand part of that is the nature of the state. State. Its what . An open carry state. Stephen in ohio youre allowed to carry a gun openly but not bring tennis balls. What about a tennis ball gun . Well, under circumstances laughter stephen what about mike pence being the no, maa nomine . Right reflects off him, but i dont know anything else about governor pence besides that. Vice president s dont win elections. Stephen they can hurt, though. Or help by giving an aura to the candidate that hes serious, president ial, that hes chosen someone to balance his own experience. Stephen why did he pick them . At the beginning he said he wanted an attack dog. Didnt, he wanted somebody to complement him and help him on the ticket. This will be interesting. The truth is donald trump is doing poorly among christians, people who turn out to the polls o mike pence is extremely popular. This is a nod to the right wing to shore up his base and to the establishment wing of the Republican Party who dues trusted him and not showing up at the convention. Mike pence served a dozen years in congress, rose through the leadership, could be a president ial candidate in the future and is a safe choice in terms of shoring up the republicans. And has access to the money. The Koch Brothers like him a lot. Koch money in the Republican Party is big. Stephen i suppose. So but the interesting thing about trump picking pence, the safe choice, is that ihi been the nominee, i cant imagine him picking trump. laughter who who would pick trump, Stephen Colbert . Stephen i would. laughter its the gift that keeps on giving. Stephen were going to take a little break. But stick around. Well be back with more gayle king, Norah Odonnell and our friend charlie rose. Stick around. cheers and applause our lte coverage. We doubled thats right our coverage stacks up with anybody, including verizon and at t. And only tmobile gives you more than just great coverage. Now you can stream viandeo d music free without touching any of your data. So ditch the other guys. And get great coverage and more with tmobile. We got you covered. And we wont stop school lunch can be difficult. Cafeteria chaos. One little struggle. Can lead to one monumental mishap. Not with ziploc easy open tabs. Because life needs ziploc. Sc johnson. Try duo fusion ing antacids . 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Stephen you also have the charlie rose show at the same time, and i understand the charlie rose web site has been totally revamped and you can watch millions of hours of charlie rose now . Exactly. Stephen talk about needing a nap talk about putting you to sleep stephen yeah. laughter how many hours of interviews do you have up there . I dont know how many is up there now but about 20,000. Over the last 25 years, about 20,000. applause 20000 guests. Stephen seriously, how do you do the show in the morning . Because youre up at the crack offdawn, and then stay alert at night . Liquid cocaine. Stephen i tell you what, im live next week, can you hook me up . Thats a joke, people. You know what its like, stephen a drink, for gods sake. Drink stephen what . Hes a pure person. Stephen always this way or did you purify yourself later. I got drunk in high school once at the Christian YouthLeadership Conference off of a keg of beer. Stephen they had a keg of beer at the christian Leadership Conference . It made me so sick that i thought, i never want to feel that feeling again. I really was. It made me so i was throwing up. Somebody did something terrible to you then. No, it was just regular keg beer, but i thought, i just dont like it. Good cold beer. Stephen that was my nickname in high school, cold beer . Was it really . Stephen yeah, cold beer colbert. See what you learn . There is a big thing about pokeemon go. Yeah. Who do you think signed up for pokeemon go today . Stephen he did. Why did you guessha did he tell you . Stephen no, because i think hes a child at heart. I am. Stephen which is a nice way of saying infantile. laughter is the Democratic Convention going to be locked down and by the book is this is that going to be a time travel back to the boring days of four years ago . Its going to be heavily scripted because its the clintons, theyve done it before, there is a huge audience, but i also think it will be an historic convention. Both conventions will clarify the focus. Its the coming out party for the candidates. This is the first woman ever to be the nominee of a Major Political party in america. applause stephen that is historic. Why do you think that doesnt get as much play as, say, barack obama being the first africanamerican candidate . Because its not celebrated as much. I think when it happens, it will sort of when everyones watching, i think it will sink in just how clinton the other day. Imagine both your mom and dad have been the president of the United States. Just think about that. Stephen the possibility is there. The possibility is there if she wins. Stephen no pressure laughter yeah. I think thats kind of awesome when you think about that. Im sure people have talked to her about the day she might become president. Stephen really. Yeah, because bill clinton used to talk about being president when he was 13. Stephen thats true. Ive seen the photos of him and kennedy. Exactly. Stephen do you think it might be easier or more acceptable for mrs. Clinton to become president of the United States here or have a better chance now that we have another female Prime Minister of england, Angela Merkel, in my lifetime its more normized for World Leaders to be female. Do you think that will help her . A lot of women have men. England, brexit, they bring in a woman to fix all the problems applause stephen let you clean it up. True. No doubt Angela Merkel is the leader of europe. Two interesting things of the Democratic Convention, is one, who will be her Vice President ial pick l it be a safe choice like senator tim kaine or something outside the box which some in her campaign indicated. Stephen who is the outside the box for her because tim kaine feels like a mike pence. Bob gates tim kaine asked whats your best quality, he said im boring and borings in. Is that a good thing . Stephen is boring in . Thats what he said. Stephen thats a boring thing to say. Havent you talked about that on this show . Stephen yeah, i can barely stay awake for it. The governor of colorado, hes very, very good. I like him. What did you say about bob gates. Former defense secretary, c. I. A. Director. There is and wise man, a Foreign Policy establishment type, someone whos not an elected politician to cement the idea of trust and gravidas, what she has problems with, trust and honesty in the polls. She herself said she has those problems. She acknowledged that. Its less likely now Elizabeth Warren. Stephen that would be fun. Akin to what her husband did when he chose al gore, two very young sowners. Stephen and called them huck and jim. They did. Whats interesting is what role bill clinton will play. He caused headaches for Hillary Clinton in the past and in the past several weeks. Migraines. He had one of the most standout speeches in the last convention in 2012. Some say he gave a better speech than barack obama when he delivered a point by point indictment of mitt romneys economic policies. I think barack obama did that. Will bill clinton do something similar in this election. Hell make the case for the first lady. Stephen what are you predicted for her candidate . I would like Elizabeth Warren but i think it will be tim kaine. I think the election is crazy enough that neither one wants to do anything to take focus away from themselves. He would like it to be Elizabeth Warren because stephen shes fun to talk about. Oh. laughter i thought you were going to say it would be great for the country. Stephen i think fun is great. laughter charlie, gayle, norah, thank you so much for being here. Catch cbs this morning every morning, from 7 00 to 9 00. Charlie rose, gayle king, and Norah Odonnell, everybody well be right back. cheers and applause band playing the new 2017 ford fusion is here. Its the beauty of a wellmade choice. When you dont get enough and your body aches. Youre not yourself. Tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. We give you a better night. Youre a better you all day. Tylenol®. Not yet, im. E laundry can you . No. Cleaning the windows the living rooms a disaster vo most Insurance Companies give you every reason to avoid them. Plants need planting well the leaves arent going to rake themselves vo nationwide is different. Hon, did you call nationwide to check on our claim . vo we put members first. Actually, they called me. Nationwiside on your side nationwide is the exclusive Insurance Partner of plenti. cheers and applause stephen welcome back, everybody my next guest is a leader in the black lives Matter Movement. Please welcome Deray Mckesson cheers and applause stephen well, thanks for coming back. Good to be back. Stephen last time we talked was in the fall. Yes. Stephen you were here. There was already a lot of attention being paid to black lives matter and about the racial tension in the United States, but the last few weeks have been terrible for Race Relations in the United States. Thats true. Stephen you yourself were actually arrested in baton rouge during a protest. What do you think is happening right now . Do you think anything positive can come from such a terrible situation . Yes, when i think about protest, i think it of the idea of telling the truth in public. What we have been doing with our bodies is telling truth that philando castile, alton sterling, so many people should be alive. I hope these are leading to better conversations about solutions. We think about the protest in baton rouge. I didnt plan to get arrested but so many people got arrested that brought attention to the crisis with the Baton Rouge Police department. Stephen you didnt plan to get arrested but it looks art directed. It was even well lit. I had a moment where i was, like, if i resist arrest, it will be a real problem. So i just had to find this moment of peace and say, im okay with it and im just going to go. But again, i think all of this is about forcing a conversation in public and race and racism that people have just been afraid to have and im hopeful we can about solutions. Im thinking about that with the meeting with obama we had. Stephen the president had a meeting at the white house with various Community Leaders and leaders from both Law Enforcement and from civil rights and Civil Justice organizations like yourself. Yep. Stephen what was that pleading like and what did you talk about . We met with the president for about four and a half hours, and talked about solutions. So president obama pushed people not to just talk about what the problems were in the slice of the world they represented but to really think about solutions. So we talked about things like using federal government money as a way to incentivize or hold Police Departments accountable differently. We talked about policing contracts and the fact in this country there is a shadow Justice System for police and police have to be held accountable for their work. But we got to hear about police about how their work is harder in different ways. Ive not been in the same room with Many Police Chiefs in the country, and agree with solutions, its interesting to hear them. Just being in the room in and of itself doesnt change things. Loretta lynch was there. Stephen the president in his speech at the memorial service, he said that its important to walk in each others shoes, okay. I understand that i cant understand the position of black lives matter fully because im not a black man and i havent been pulled over repeatedly by the police. But can you understand that you may not understand the position of what policemen your age might be going through if they come to what they perceive is possibly a dangerous situation and dont know what to do. Has it opened your eyes at all to what their fears and what their motivations might be that arent necessarily racist . Yes, so we can accept that policing is hard, we can accept that people want the wake up every day and go home alive, we accept those things. But when i think about the medical profession, right . Ive not been a have expectations about how they function. I have expectations that police dont kill people as part of their job. We believe that. applause stephen when someone says to you the vast majority of police dont do that, what is your reaction . This is about a culture thats broken and we know that the culture of policing has to change so that the communities are safe again. And we think of the death of philando and alton, and so many others, and that speaks to a culture thats broken. Yeah, there are a lot of Police Officers who have not killed people. There are also a lot of Police Officers who continue to participate in a system where the culture is broken and we need them to step up and say they know the system needs to change. In the beginning of the speech with obama, we noted the police needs change and that was productive. Stephen people were still in the streets, you cant say it home. Im saying this person particularly targeted police, specifically white police in dallas, thats what he said to the negotiators on the phone with him. The black lives Matter Movement is a decentralized movement. While you are a leader of the movement, there is not a singular organization. Correct. Stephen do you bear any responsibility for having a Central Organization that can have a cohesive message so people cannot misinterpret what youre doing as a call for violence or reprisals against the police . Because while this play be a deranged individual, there have been weve heard recordings of people chanting for violence against the police in marches. Whats your responsibility as a leader of this movement to keep that from happening . First, there are incredible leaders across the country. There are so many people stepping up and for the first time, for some people having their voices heard and learning how to organization is powerful, so the decentralized nature is a strength, not a weakness of the movement. The second thing about dallas, is movement has always been rooted in a call to end violence. That was true ten days ago, five days ago, today and tomorrow. When we think about dallas, it is a tragedy, and my condolences go out to the victims of all violence, but that was not related to the movement. So i think the decentralized nature again is a strength of the movement and there are so many incredible people leading across the country. Stephen we have to go. One last thing, the president said you are too hard on the police in your rhetoric. Dunes what he meant by that . No, i think his general push is we should all try see each others pe perspectives. Our fundamental belief is police shouldnt kill people. Well say it till it changes. Stephen hope to see you again. Deray mckesson. Well be right back cheers and applause band playing im dying my hair mom. Hair dye . Its just purple. Teenage daughter . Get scrubbing bubbles. Kill 99. 9 of germs and destroy grime. With scrubbing bubbles for 100 problem solved. Take on any road with intuitive allwheel drive. The nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. 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You cant be happy all the time. Youll ruin your liver. Sometimes you have to put the bottle down. Like when youre driving. Lets talk about texting and driving. I hate when i hear people say, i only do it once in a while thats the kind of thinking that will get you killed. To be good at something you need to practice. On ramps, off ramps, when youre merging. I know its hard. If youre like me, you close your eyes, but you have to try. Lives are at stake. I love my phone. I lost my daughter in walmart once i did not have the same anxiety. As when i left my phone in the bathroom at tgi fridays. My kid is okay, too. But i wouldnt freak out if she fell in the to toilet. We parent different today. I say, stay down, if shes in the car. I dont want somebody to break my window. People walk up and say we look exactly the i always feel weird about it. I feel almost offended i just think im so much hotter than she is. I mean, she has her own thing going on, if youre into that sort of thing. The hardest part of parenting is punishing your kid. Its so hard. Theres no rules in our house. Well, theres no tv. No books either. No learning of any kind. Just minecraft and we got her a tinder account. She loves to swipe. My daughter told me she knows a curse word worse than the fword. I said, what . She said, cont. It took everything in me not to say, youre saying it wrong. You dont know so much. We always get in arguments about what you can say or not say. Once she told me crap was a bad word. You can say crap. She said, no, if you say it at school you get in trouble. I was like, that is bullcr bullshi stupid. That is so stupid. She said, you cant say stupid. If you say it at school youll get in trouble. I was like, your teacher sounds like a real cot, you know that . laughter applause thank you. I had a tough time in school because i was bullied. I was bullied all through middle school because i matured so quickly. I had a full beard in 8th grade. I really was bullied and it was hard. I would come home every day after school, upset, crying. And then one day my mom said to me, i guess in a moment of tough love, she said, bonnie, there are people out there who have it worse off than you do, and you can bully them. And once i started doing that, my selfesteem went through the roof it feels amazing. I hate hearing grown women complain about their pasts because usually its so petty. There are women out there who have had real problems, real issues growing up and yet theyre out there. They get out of bed every day, theyre lawyers and astronauts and cowgirls and i dont know all the different stripper costumes, but theres a lot of them. You can be anything you want to be at the beginning of your song. laughter thats a dancer saying. Words to live by. Thank you very much, everybody nice crowd. Thank you stephen her new book is youre better than me. Bonnie mcfarlane, everybody well be right back. cheers and applause band playing cheers and applause stephen thats it for the late show. Join us next week for live shows every night after the republican convention. Now stay tuned for james corden. Good night band playing cheers and applause captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org reggie are you ready to have some fun and feel the love tonight dont you worry bout the things we say because it comes from our minds its the late, late show ladies and gentlemen, all the way from inside Jim Jarmuschs mind, give it up for the one,