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With a Third Nuclear test. The miniaturized Nuclear Device. Triggered a mild earthquake and even prompted the u. N. Security council to call an emergency meeting for later this morning. President obama has joined International Condemnation calling it a highly provacative act. The manhunt continues for a cop. Video shows dorner two days before the killing spree buying scuba gear. Police searched a hotel in mexico last night. No evidence was dorner was found. Tonight president obama delivers his first state of the Union Address of his second term. Im very, very concerned about what i see happening, charlie. You think that this president is weakening america . I do. Speculation this morning over who will lead the Catholic Church now that Pope Benedict xvi has announced his historic resignation. A pretty dramatic change. It means hell go from wearing a robe all day to wearing a robe all day. Top gear has shown a video of a helicopter racing a cobra with a disastrous ending. The end of the mardi gras season. I like it very much. All that the Westminster Dog Show is back. Keep mice from overrunning their mistresses boudoirs. Thats interesting. Top ten questions on the application to become a swimsuit model. How does Brent Musburger describe you . And all that matters awarded the medal for courageous action. His son stole the show playing peekaboo. Colin is not as shy as clint. On cbs this morning. Lightning struck the vatican just hours after Pope Benedict would be announ Pope Benedict announced his resignation. What will the pope do . He could become the most distinguished walmart greeter of all time. , wi welcome to cbs this morning. Nae north korea held its Third Nuclear test. President obama will in fact discuss the nuclear test during his state of the Union Address tonight. The president will say it merely isolates north korea even more. Now the north says it tested a lighter, miniaturized Nuclear Device underground at its northeastern test site. Margaret brennan is in washington. Good morning. Reporter good morning, nora and charlie. President obama is calling the test a highly provacative act. He condemned it in a statement overnight saying north Koreas Nuclear weapons and Ballistic Missile program constitutes a threat to u. S. National security and to International Peace and security. North korea has been warning for weeks that it was about to test its nuclear arsenal. On tuesday morning, it exploded a bomb in a facility one kilometer underground near the same location of its nuclear test in 2006 and 2009. There is concern that they could come up with a Delivery System for their Nuclear Weapons. Reporter last week the u. S. And south korean navies launched military drills in the region as a show of force. North koreas test demonstrates a significant split from its main patron, china. Recently beijing warned leader kim jongun against any weapons tests. Theyve said publicly that there would be real consequences for north korea. What those consequences are we have to see, but i suspect its going to be more than an angry lettered. Reporter china is one of the few countries supporting north koreas fragile economy and could respond by cutting financial aid. This latest test may provide evidence of the strength of north Koreas Nuclear arsenal. If this is a uranium enrichment test, it means they have lapped the iranians on this. And we will not have a good handle on how much of this material they have. Reporter u. S. Officials say there are indications that north korea is preparing for a second test, this time of a missile. Well be monitoring that. Overnight, several world leader condemned north koreas action, and the u. N. Security council will be meeting. Theyre expected to have support for tough sanctions. Thank you, margaret. With us now, senior white house adviser, valerie jarrett. Good morning, valerie. Good morning, nora. Good morning, charlie. Good morning. The news this morning is that north korea has had a Third Nuclear test. The president in his statement said this was a highly provacative act that warranted swift and credible action. What will the president say tonight about reducing Nuclear Weapons . Well, well stay tuned tonight to hear how he responds to that. Youre right, it was highly provacative. It violates numerous resolutions, its a threat to the region, a threat to the United States, its a threat to the International Peace and security. Were heartened to see that the u. N. Security council will be meeting this morning at 9 00. How will the United States respond . Well, lets see how that meeting goes. Its not just about the United Statess response. There will be an international, Firm Response to that. So lets let the Committee Meet this morning and then well see what the next steps are after that. Okay, let me turn to the state of the union. You are perhaps other than the first lady the person closest to the president in the white house. And more and more people are saying what the New York Times said this morning. As the president prepared to outline his secondterm agenda, it is clear from personal accounts as well as his public acts like his bold inaugural address that hes shown assertiveness, selfpossession, even cockiness that contrasts with a caution, compromise, and reserve that he showed for much of his first term. Well, i think that certainly after four years hes had a lot of experience. His confidence has grown. But his objective is the same. Since day one hes been focused on building the middle class from the middle out as opposed to the top down. Growing our economy, making sure that we are a magnet here in the United States for jobs and for manufacturing. Making sure that as we develop those jobs that our folks are equipped with the stills they need to perform those jobs, and making sure that if you work hard that you have a good living. I think those basic values are american principles. Theyre american values. And youll see that the theme tonight is consistent with his theme of the inaugural where if you really work hard and everybody gets a fair shot, everybody gets a fair shake. Everybody plays by the same set of rules. And that if we do that together, our nation will be stronger. Let me talk about appointments for the new second term team. Dick cheney, the former Vice President , very critical saying its a secondrate team in the National Security arena, and it simply reflects the president and a weakening of america. Well, obviously i disagree with that. I think its no surprise that we would pick different people than perhaps would have been selected under prior administration. The presiden has picked an outstanding team. Given our challenges ahead, we call on congress to confirm them as soon as possible so that we can move forward. We have challenges, but we also have opportunities. I think the president deserves to have a team swiftly confirmed so we can get about the business of defending our country, moving our country forward, building that middle class that i talked about. We have seen resignation including, for example, the secretary of energy. The question still is when will we see those major women appointed to toplevel cabinet positions whether its justice or Something Else . Well, the attorney general intends to stay. The president just appointed sally jewell to the department of interior last week. Hell be filling out his cabinet in the coming weeks. I think when hes finished, you will see it is a cabinet that reflects the diversity of our country. Not just the cabinet but subcabinet and one that he believes will put America First but the middle class first, help those who want to move into the middle class, and move our country forward. Were very optimistic, charlie, about the future. And its time to get going now. Valerie jarrett, good to see you. Thank you for joining us. Thanks, nora. Thanks, charlie. Former Vice President dick cheneys condemning and praising president obama in a wideranging interview youll only see on cbs this morning. Cheney has criticized the president s choice of National Security advisers for his second term. We began by asking about an issue that is front and center on capitol hill, mr. Obamas use of drones in the war on terror. I think its a good program, and i dont disagree with the basic policy that the Obama Administration has pursued in that regard. Therefore, the idea of taking out in yemen an american citizen who had threatened america was just fine with dick cheney . Yes by dwoen attarone attack . Yes. Should there be checks and balances in terms of that . I think when we hire the president of the United States, he gets to live in the big house, makes all that money, he is getting paid to make difficult, difficult decisions. You talked about the obama team was second rate. What did you mean . Well, i think im very, very concerned about what i see happening, charlie, in the National Security arena. I think the administrations policies are terribly flawed. I think that the president S Performance by my standards in the international arena, middle east and so forth, is worse than many of my friends and colleagues, being his domestic policies. The problem with the president and his policies, or is it with chuck hagel, john brennan, john kerry . Thats all the president. The president picks the people that he put around him, too. With respect to chuck hagel and brennan, defense and cia, just in the last week their performance in front of the committees that have to confirm them has been pretty poor. Thats, you know, not my judgment. Thats the judgment, as well, of senators on both sides of the aisle. My guess is if you look at what the president s motives are for picking chuck headachel l chu hagel, he wants the republican to be the foil for what he wants to do with the Defense Department which will do serious damage to the department. It looks to me that the president has made choices in part based on people who wont argue with him. Well have much more of that interview ahead. The former Vice President will talk about the use of water boarding and his relationship with former president george w. Bush. 24 hours after the bombshell announcement that Pope Benedict is resigning, the focus now turns to choosing his successor. Benedict is the first pope in six centuries to step down. His last day is february 28. And this morning there are new reports about the popes health. Allen pizzay is in vat cal city. Dow corning. Reporter good morning. A vatican spokesman reviewed that benedict has been wearing a pacemaker for some time and had an operation to replace the battery only three months ago. How much his declining health and the strain of dealing with the leaks and sex abuse scandals is open to speculation. Vatican insiders say only a few of his closest aides knew in advance. With his brief announcement in latin, benedict set a modern precedent that ensures his successors can follow the same both. As one put it, he broke a taboo. Catholics around the world reacted with surprise, some sadness, but overall there was a sense that benedict had done the right thing for himself and the church. It is an act of humility for the pope to realize that he can no longer physically and mentally discharge the duties of his office. Reporter even as benedicts legacy is being debated, the struggle for succession has begun behind the scenes. [ cheers ] reporter Latin Americans feel their time has come, and there are several strong candidates including Cardinal Leandro Sandri of argentina. The region is home to 42 of the worlds catholics, and the church needs a bulwark against gains making by even evangelical christians. Africa has the Fastest Growing catholic population. Cardinal peter turkson, who is only 64, tops many lists to be the first black pope. The strongest european candidate may be italian cardinal scola. Theres a frontrunner in north america, mark willet. Cardinal Timothy Dolan of new york would be a popular choice. Benedicts last public appearance, major public appearance will be to provide over the Ash Wednesday ceremonies. He cannot take part in a conclave to choose his successor but his influence will be felt in a battle seen between liberals and conservatives to chart the future of the church a lot sooner than any of them expected to have to do. Allen pizzey, thank you. Cardinal donald whirl is the archbishop of washington. Good morning. Good morning. Help us understand whats taking place now. Are there factionsin the factions within the church, geographical divides . How will the selection of a new pope come about . Well, at the heart of the process is going to be as you know gathering all the knds for the con cardinals for the conclave. When that is announced theyll come together in rome. Theres a whole way in which this moves forward. Prayer is a big, big part of it. And the openness of spirit. We say that with a certain conviction because in the past we recognized how that has played out. Who would have thought, who would have thought all those years ago that the Cardinal Cardinal would have been elected pope. I think in conclave there will be a great openness of listening to the holy spirit. Is there lobbying that goes on . During the conclave itself there isnt because theres a silence that pervades the entire conclave. Obviously beforehand there will be discussion among the cardinals about the qualities of different cardinals. I not thats natural. You want to know as much as you can about the people around you before you start casting your ballot. Cardinal, i mean, everything weve ever read about the selection of a pope suggests that there are people who look at the election and the kind of person who may be pope having to do with their own agenda for the church and that there is infighting, there is lobby, there is ambition, there is a sense of destiny for the church. I think thats one way of looking at it. But that may be looking at it from outside the conclave. I think inside the conclave were going to see something very different. I think were going to see an openness to where does the church need to be going. What are the ways in which we focus on the Spiritual Mission of the church. How do we move the church into this 21st century so that it is a voice for peace, a voice for justice, a voice for love in a world that so much needs that. When you talk about moving the church into the future, does the church need to change some of its views as membership is declining . Does it need to reach out more . I think the church is always reaching out, but the reaching out is to bring people to the gospel. The task of the church is to take the received message. The received revelation, the teaching, the gospel, and pass it on. Our task is to make it attractive, to make it something that people understand and are willing to embrace. Our task is never to change what our lord has said. Thank you very much, Cardinal Donald whirl. Now to the continuing manhunts for former lapd officer christopher dorner. Firstdegree murder charge were filed against him yesterday for the ambushstyle killing of a police officer. Hes also wanted in two other murders. John miller is former head of the Major Crimes Division of the lapd. Good morning. Good morning. There is this story that he may have headed to mexico. So thats based on the u. S. Marshals affidavit to a federal judge. It could be a there could be a couple of things going on. One, they could believe he fled to mexico. Two, they could be establishing his the probable cause to believe he might have fled to mexico or another state. Thats what they need to actually show a judge to get an unlawful flight to avoid prosecution or a ufap warrant as we call it in the federal government so they can get in the case. Theres a milliondollar reward. I mean, thats highly unusual. Thats a lot of money out there. I understand theyre getting a lot of tips. Do they think theyre good leads . You know, they got a lot of tips. So far none of them have been dorner. No Police Department outside the federal government has ever put up a milliondollar reward for a suspect. But its certainly having the desired effect which is whoever wasnt looking for him before is now. But theres also this chief says theyll reopen the case. Hes saying that for purposes other than simply reopening the case because this has gone way beyond some case or some grievance he had before. Well, i think one thing hes doing is hes giving dorner a test. I mean, dorners manifesto says, i need to get my reputation back, and i didnt lie, and i shouldnt have been fired. But if i get justice, the killing stops. I think if the Department Takes a step of well take a second look at the case, if he is a man of his word, then the killing has to stop. The other thing that came up yesterday is, in all the roll calls in lapd station houses in the afternoon, they said, dont get tunnel vision that this guy is in a car. We have pictures of him from his Facebook Page on motorcycles and hanging out with guys on motorcycles. Make sure youre look at that guy with the helmet where you cant see his face who might be right next to you. All right. And this is a guy with skills in the area that hes operating in. Multiple. Thank you, john. Time to show some of the headlines from around the globe. The Washington Post says the pentagon is expanding benefits to samesex couples. The additional benefits include access to basic facilities and groups as well as joint assignments. They do not include health care for samesex spouses or housing privileges. An apparent revenge killing after a dui crash. A texas man accused of murder, accused of shooting and killing a driver while drunk. The alleged shooter killed the two young boys outside the car helping their dad when he was hit. Wall street journal reports that people receiving discount phone service have not proven theyre eligible for the program. Last year the government spent more than 2 billion to provide phones to americans with low incomes. The New York Times says mice may fall short when it comes to being test subjects for human diseases. A new study finds evidence that tests using mice may be totally misleading from major killers including burns and trauma. It could mean billions of dollars have been wasted chasing fa former Vice President dick chney says enhanced interrogation works, and it should still be an option. What do we call it had many people think it ought to be called torture . Its not. He tells us why he believes president obamas policies are putting the United States at risk. And the Carnival Cruise ship stranded for days in the gulf of mexico. Passengers say it is a nightmare. 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In his eight years in office he was at the center of vigorous debate over Foreign Policy and penhanced interrogation. We discussed the criticism. Bush administrations record. The Obama Administration if they were listening to you now, as they i doubt it. They would say, you know what, one of our Foreign Policy successes is, it was a terrible attitude toward the United States because of iraq. Weve had to rebuild confidence in the United States. That was the legacy of the Bush Administration. And the question is . What do you say to that . Well he claimed that as a single lar Foreign Policy achievement. I think the president came to power with a world view thats different. How . The sense that he wanted to reduce u. S. Influence in the world, wanted to take us down a peg, that he felt he hasnt said that he wants to reduce u. S. Influence in the world. No, but never have i heard him say i want to reduce the u. S. Influence in the world. You never heard him call himself a liberal before the election. Everything that comes out of you today is a legitimate patriotic sense of where you think america is going. You think this president is weakening america. I do. Hes making us vulnerable in the future. Yes. Unless somebody stops it, were going to be at a place that we have never been before. Certainly since the end of world war ii. Yes. I believe thats a very accurate statement you just made. And when you look at the policies, you know, i suggested that there was an antiamerican attitude after at the time that you handed over and the president handed over power toward the United States. Do you accept that . Im sure that there are people in the world who didnt like us then, but we we shouldnt care about that . If youre going to be the leader, if youre going to make those difficult decisions, if youre going to be the sort of the court of last resort dealing with the proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, for example, then youre going to take heat. There will be people who fundamentally disagree with us. Thats okay. Theres nothing wrong with that. But it is very important that they respect us. Define enhanced interrogation. It was a specific set of techniques that were used, applied to detainees. Every single one of those used it on our own people in training. Including water boarding . Including water boarding. To this day, you have no regret about the use of water boarding in enhanced interrogation . Absolutely not let me make a couple of points that you made before. Number one, this comes from people like john mccain and others, you know, who very much oppose enhanced interrogation. And he has some experience as obviously he does. And other people, a, because of american values, even Stan Mcchrystal said this. I read his book. Its a good book. Okay. Do you agree with his position . When you say enhanced interrogation, why dont we call it what many believe it ought to be called, torture . Because its not. Whats the difference . The difference is we went through a long, difficult, and labored process with the Justice Department before we started the enhanced interrogation programs. Tell us where the red line is. Do we got approval for the programs that did go, that they were not torture. And we got signed off by the president of the United States, by the entire National Security council, briefing on all of those programs. But we stopped water boarding. We did. Because . Because there was so much flack over it. But if it was getting such good results it got good results. But there are still people at guantanamo yeah. At this stage why stop . They havent captured anybody for a long time. And it was stopped partly because of all the controversy that developed out of it. So you think water boarding today ought to be part of the toolbox of things you use when american National Security is at stake . Absolutely. So if in fact in a circumstance like that there are few limits as to what you can do well, that the idea. What happened on 9 11 was, instead of treating terrorist attacks as a Law Enforcement problem which is what weve done up to that point, all of a sudden weve got 3,000 dead americans. And it was our job to make certain it didnt happen again. But there is this Stan Mcchrystal says its about values, too, american values. The question you have to answer is how many people are you willing to let die so that you dont offend your values. You know washington and you know the Bush Administration on part of the Vice President is a very hard line. He has not changed a bit. Yeah. I think theres look, its controversial. There are still people who say theres no proof that water boarding ever resulted in any intelligence that could have been used to stop future attacks. Thats a debate that certainly goes on. And the debate over whether it was effective in coming to some sense of where Osama Bin Laden was. Right. Exactly. Which has come in how did this help . Its it helped. Friends said they had never seen him as the old dick cheney is back. Theres a story about Brent Scowcroft who was very critical of him and said the man i see in the white house is not the dick cheney that i knew. There was a reunion of for gerald ford, and they both worked for. And scowcroft said dick cheney, its the old dick cheney. Okay, whats his answer to about criticizing the administration . Bush, the president he served under, has remained silent, not criticized obama at all . His attitude is that i owe it to the Public Discourse to say what i think. Okay. Thanks. Good interviewer. 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Thats what the captain was worried about the most. Fire at sea. No fire danger. Go ahead i think most people are worried about whats happening to the passengers, not the ship. Clearly thats going to have to be towed to port. People are fighting over food and toilets. How deplorable are the conditions . Youve got no electricity, no ventilation, no air conditioning, no refrigeration. The Waste Management system is powered by electrical, as well. You know what that means in terms of the toilets. If youre on an inside middle cabin, youve taken your mattress out on the deck, youre sleeping outside. Its not a pretty picture at all. Heres the other thing, how long will it take . Theyre average being three knots, 4. 5 miles an hour. It will take until thursday to get to mobile, alabama. What you have here is sort of like the makings of a floating biohazard heading into alabama. Good morning, everybody. A floating biohazard. Carnival released a statement saying, were terribly sorry for the inconvenience, discomfort, and frustration our guests are feeling. Wye know they expected a fantastic vacation, and clearly that is not what they received. Is this a p. R. Disaster, and what are they doing for the passengers . In the past i have to tell you, theyve compounded their problems at some cruise lines by offering the passengers a 20 discount on their next cruise. That didnt fly. In this situation, carnival stepped up, theyre giving the passengers a full refund. Theyre giving the passengers a full refund of everything they spent on the ship other than the gift shop and casino. Then theyve got a logistic problem. Once that ship gets to mobile, alabama, how do you fly 3,100 passengers home from an airport thats only served by regional jets . An interesting challenge. Is there an open bar . There better be. A new study finds some hospitals charge ten times as much as others for the same operation. 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Why this disparity . So Health Care Costs vary depending where you live, where you go for your care, and who you see to deliver your care. This is exactly what were seeing in the difference in pricing. If you need a hip replacement, what do you do because of the variance in prices . Well, a couple of things. One, if you have insurance, the first thing i would recommend is contacting your Insurance Company because as weve heard from the hospitals and places that i even work at, everything kepds depends on what the relationship and what your Insurance Company has agreed to pay for for that procedure. When you look at the disparity in prices, you say is this why Health Care Costs are out of control . Its one of the reasons. Another reason is that even when we pay a certain amount of money, we dont know what were getting for that money. It could be bad quality, good quality. We dont even know. Whats the percentage of success with these operations . They have a High Percentage of success, charlie. They actually people with hip replacements do very well. The question that i think a lot of people should ask when theyre getting the hip replacement or thinking about it is what is my surgeons percentage of complications, how many times has the surgeon had a problem with an infection of a hip replacement. How do you find out the information . There are several web sites that are being the government and the administration has done to help this. But its better to just ask and special ts interesting what its interesting what you say on cost and selection, the incumbency is on the patient. It is. This is the most sobering part, as well. The burden is left to us to try to figure it out. When i take care of patients and they ask me about costs, honestly sometimes what the cost is. I know the study was just on hip replacements. Right. I imagine this may span a lot of different kinds of surgeries. Absolutely. Theres been a long tradition of looking at cost of care, of common hospital primaries, that the dartmouth atlas has been doing over the years. They found the exact same kind of variation in cost and pricing. Dr. Patel, thank you. Thank you for having me. Vice president dick cheney says he offered to quit three times during the bush presidency. Hell talk about his relationship with the former president only on cbs this morning. Mine was earned in djibouti, africa, 2004. The battle of bataan, 1942. [ all ] fort benning, georgia, in 1999. [ male announcer ] usaa Auto Insurance is often handed down from generation to generation because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaas commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. Begin your legacy. Get an autoinsurance quote. Usaa. We know what it means to serve. For those nights when its more than a bad dream, be ready. 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Its a threat to the International Peace and security. The president came to power with a world view thats different. Afterwards i heard him say i want to reduce u. S. Influence in the world. You never heard him call call himself a liberal before the election. The vatican spokesman revealed that benedict has been wearing a pacemaker for some time and had an operation to replace the battery only three months ago. How will this selection of a new pope come about . Were going to see an openness to where does the church need to be going. How do we move the church into the 21st century. I understand theyre getting a lot of tips. Do they think theyre good leads . Theyve got a lot of tips. So far, none of them have been dorner. No Police Department outside of the federal government has put up a milliondollar reward for a suspect. Were hearing Horror Stories this morning from those aboard a stranded cruise ship. No electricity, no ventilation, no air conditioning, no refrigeration. What you have here is sort of like the makings of a floating biohazard. Good morning, everyone, a floating biohazard. Is there an open bar . Floating biohazard. Is there an open bar . There better be. Captioning funded by cbs im charlie rose with gayle king and nora odonnell. North korea conducted its Third Nuclear test this morning. The u. N. Security council will meet to discuss the issue. The minority said it detonated a lighter miniaturized nuclear test. The test defies an u. N. Order to shut down nuclear activities. North korea is promising what it calls measures of greater intensity. President obama is calling the test high low provacative. And highly provacative. And the president said the Nuclear Weapon and Ballistic Missile program constitutes a threat to u. S. And interNational Security. Cbs news is reporting that the president will discuss north Koreas Nuclear test during the state of the Union Address. A vatican spokesman revealed new details this morning about the popes health. The news comes a day after benedicts surprise announcement of his resignation. Allen pizzeys in vatican city with more on whats leading the phone step down. Reporter declining health may have been a major f facintroducing Pope Benedict xvis decision to step down. Hes been wearing a pacemaker for several years and had an operation barely three months ago to change the battery. Add that to the strain of dealing with the sex abuse scandal and it took a toll. Another thing that came out, last august the pope ordered work to begin on renovating an old can vent building any convent building at vatican city where hes going to live. His last major Public Performance will be Ash Wednesday. He cannot take part in the conclave, however. That has to be done by the cardinal without his influence at all. Monsignor fig uerido joins us from vatican city. Good morning. Good morning. Good afternoon from rome. Are you there in rome. Yes. Good afternoon indeed. Yes. And whats going on there now . The vatican . Yesterday took us by great surprise. We were shocked with the announcement. So in a real sense, we can say that the future of the church is in the hearts and minds of catholics and noncatholics around the world. Its an exciting time for the church, an exciting time to be in rome. Were full of anticipation for whats going to be happening. Theres some that suggest that theres also a contest within the church. One is about geography. The other is about smaller church, more doctrinaire, and a larger expanding church reaching out to members. Yes, charlie. You know, the college of cardinals now is really made up of a Diverse Group of people. 61 i believe from europe. Theres 19 from latin america, 14 from north america, split between asia and africa. Geographically, yes, diversity. I think the pope himself has wanted to go out geographically encouraging new cardinals from a wide range of countries to come in. Were always going to have doctrinal issues. Those who want to stay with the second vatican council, those who want to go back before the second vatican council. At the end of the day this is the point of having a conclave. That we discuss the issues and that the cardinals agree this is the man to take the Church Forward in the present time which Pope Benedict himself said yesterday in his statement pressing times, pressing questions, with rapid changes. So we need a new man for the times this is why its such an important and exciting time. This makes up the largest catholic population. I hear many Latin Americans saying this is our time. How likely is that, do you think . I think that every single cardinal has a possibility. We have been surprised now twice over. First with a pope from poland. A great pope, pope john paul, and Pope Benedict xvi, also great pope from germany. Both were surprises. Certainly in latin america there are enormous challenges and enormous opportunities. Large numbers of the faithful who are deserting the church. We need to bring them back. In fact, Pope Benedict had a trip scheduled to brazil this summer for world youth day. Thats going to be a significant moment. Certainly the cardinals will be looking to north latin america, too, as one of the candidates. Quickly monsignor, i dont know if you see the photo of lightning striking st. Peters just 24 hours after the announcement. Was this some sort of sign . Well, certainly i live just a couple of minutes here. I saw it myself. Im a witness. And i think the holy god himself was saying to us, these are going to be exciting times for the church. I am with you, i am present with you, and did not be afraid to go forward and make the right and the best decision for the church and indeed for the world. Thats what thought when you saw the sflieng. Yeah. I was some lightning . Yeah. I was somewhat afraid. Its spectacular. In rome, it is spectacular. Brought back image of the veil of the temple being torn in two because something important is about to happen. We shouldnt be afraid of that because when god is present really we can be full of hope and full of confidence that something important, great is going to happen for the church and for the world. Lets go ahead. Lets move forward. Pope benedict xvi got a sign from god himself. All right. Monsignor figueiredo, good to have you in the afternoon from rome. Thank you. Wonderful to be with you. Thank you. More with my interview with former Vice President dick cheney. An interview you will see only on cbs this morning. Cheney served for two terms with president george w. Bush. He says their relationship has changed over the years. Someone said to me about your relationship with president bush 43, cordial . Yes. Friendly . Yes. Yeah. But distant. Were its not it was mostly a professional relationship is the way i would describe it. I didnt play golf. He played golf. So, you know, we we still talk frequently on the telephone. Theres a conception im asking this that in the second term you were less influential. Uhhuh. Leading up finally to the disagreement over is that a fair statement . I think i probably had more influence in the first term. I think my experience was more relevant in the first term. The second term, obviously, he had put in his time. I offered at midterm, halfway through, to step down if he wanted to get somebody else. I always believed the president ought to have that ability. I went to him three times and said, mr. President , you need to know if you want to make a change here, if you think you can get somebody who can do good work for you or if im carrying too much baggage, im not going stand in your way. Im out of here. First two times he didnt take me seriously. Third time he did, he thought about it and said, no, dick, youre my guy. Hear more including the former Vice President talking about his heart transplant by going to our web site, cbsthismorning. Com. President obamas awarded the medal of honor. The nations highest military honor, to former Staff Sergeant clinton romesha. He prevented a u. S. Outpost in afghanistan from being overrun by taliban fighters in 2009 after being hit by shrapnel from a rocketpropelled grenade. We werent going to be beat that day, clint said. We were not going to back down in the face of diversity like that. We were just gone just going to win, that simple. God bless you, clint romesha, and all of your team. God bless all who serve and god bless the United States of america. [ applause ] eight american servicemen died in that firefight. One of the most intense in the afghan war. In a lighter moment before the ceremony, romeshas 1yearold son, that would be colin, stole some hearts. 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At least four people called police to see if it was true. Who thought that was funny . Yeah. Weird. I dont know. All right. The road to retirement is filled with surprises. Money magazine has recovered some of them. Well show you the secrets the retiring on your own terms next on cbs this morning. Hey, theres a photo booth. Come on okay. Okay, we gotta time this just right. Okay. Ready. Mmhmm. Smile. Happy valentines day. [ female announcer ] time it just right for valentines day and save 30 on these diamond fashions from kay jewelers. Just one more reason kay is the number one Jewelry Store in america. Ready. [ camera flash ] every kiss begins with kay and less saturated fat . Its eb. Egglands best eggs. Better taste. Better nutrition. Better eggs. Its eb. Five days later, i had a massive heart attack. Bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. Now, im on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. In a tough economy, retirement can seem like a pipe dream. But the now cover story in money magazine reveals the six secrets of retirement and offers advice on how to act now. Money Senior Writer donna rosato is with us. Welcome. Thank you, good morning. What is the advice, how can you secure your job until retirement age . Well, a lot of folks think their plan for retirement, if they dont have enough, is just to work longer. In fact, there was a recent study by transamerica that said more than half of people 50 and older said that they would retire at 65 or later. But the reality is most people dont even make it to 65. The median retirement age is 62. What you want to do is make sure youre constantly focusing on showing how valuable you are at work. That means showing that you youre constantly learning, that youre taking on new responsibilities. And another thing that we advise people is find a champion. Someone whos going to be singing your praises when there are job cuts or promotions or, you know, layoffs. Find a way to make yourself indispensable i always say. Exactly. When it comes to retirement and how much money do you need, how much do you need to lead a good life, how much do you need to lead a comfortable life when it comes to retiring . Thats the question everyone has. How much do i need to save. We have a specific number for that. 16. 6 of your annual income. The reason its so specific is there was a research, Detailed Research out of American College which trains financial planners. And they studied marketing conditions going back to the 19th century to figure out how much is a safe savings level that would help you sustain your preretirement income and post retirement income. It was 16. 6 of your annual income. To keep you living to the manner in which youve become accustomed. Thats right. That does include employer matches. What you want to do is the average person who participates in a 401 k only puts in about 8 to 10 . Thats not enough. You want to make sure youre doing more than maxing out your 401 k , saving in other taxable accounts like iras. Then you can get there. We talked about that yesterday. Yeah. I was thinking, what payments should be prioritized . Well, a lot of people think when they get into retirement, im going to pay off that mortgage. Certainly gives you peace of mind. But in todays low Interest Rate environment, it may not actually make the most sense. If youre paying less than 4 on your mortgage, if you can you can take that money and put it into retirement investing, you could make even conservatively 4 , 6 . That may be a smarter way to spend that savings. Okay. What if im in debt . How do i deal with the debt issues and save for retirement . Heres something that might be a little controversial. But you dont want to enter retirement with a lot of high priced debt. What were talking about are credit cards, maybe Student Loans that you took on for your kids or auto loans. You want to pay that off. You might be paying 8 , 10 , 12 on. That heres the controversial part maybe for a while you want to step back your Retirement Savings and put this money into paying down that debt. If youre paying 12 on debt thats going sap your retirement. Nay off as soon as you can. Donna rosato. Thank you. From saving your money to saving your strength. A ceo of an Energy Project explains why you might be more productive just by taking it easy. Shell explain how that works. Easy. Shell explain how that works. You easy. Shell explain how that works. This is dylan right here, this is dylan, and this is his big brother hayden. Dylans only five, but hes already been through two surgeries for brain tumors. And he just went through his second round of chemo. And this is their mother, dawn, who runs this loving and happy home. She too struggled with tumors. But that doesnt slow her down. Her love of family comes first. Their dad, phil, works two jobs, repairing copiers, and on weekends delivering newspapers. But the bills keep piling up, and the heating bill gets pushed off. When you learn about their difficulties, it just breaks your heart. When we asked the Biggest Oil Companies to help families in need, only citgo, the people of venezuela, and president hugo chavez responded. Thanks to them, Citizens Energy is able to deliver millions of gallons of fuel to families just like the berios. Im joe kennedy. If you need help staying warm, call me at 1877joe4oil. Because no one should be left out in the cold here to show us why afternoon naps and longer vacations can help give you a life reboot. Like how Tony Schwartz is thinking there. All right. Plus, its not just another blimp. Well take you on a ride to see why new thinking and new technology could mean the return of air ships. Thats all ahead. Right now its time to show this mornings headlines. The New York Times says the rising cost of health care is slowing and that helping it ease the deficit. The Congressional Budget Office now estimates hundreds of billions of dollars have been cut from the cost of medicare and medicaid. Overall, Health Care Spending is at its lowest rate in decades. The Washington Post looks at state of the union squatters. They are the lawmakers who wait hours to stake out one of the coveted aisle seats in the house chamber. Being in that spot can mean some highprofile Television Face time when greeting the president. The wall street journal says gum chewing is falling out of favor. Gum makers are looking to win customers back. Theyre shrinking gum packages to fit in the pockets of jeans and are trying new flavors like orange cream pop and wild berry remix which i think might be part of the problem. I like just the traditional flavors. The Financial Times says that Spains Parliament is expected to declare bullfighting a protected National Cultural pastime. The move today is expected to raise tensions in spanish regions where the sport is banned. We would all like to be more productive. Tony schwartz says he knows the key. Hes the founder and ceo of the Energy Project which teaches people how to reach their full potential. Dont we all want some of that . Hello to you, Tony Schwartz. Thank you. Im confuse good one of your suggestions. You say the best way to get more done is to do less. How did does that work . Its a paradigm shift from thinking that spending more hours in a day is going to get you to the end you want to recognizing that its actually how much energy you bring to the hours you work. So that if you are really energized when youre working, youre really working, when youre renewing and recoverying, something most people dont know these days, youre rebooting. How can we be more productive . By aligning with the bodys rhythms. By moving rhythmically between spending and renewing energy, which is what the body is meant to do. And when you as i said, when youre working, youre 100 focused or at least youre finding opportunities during the day. And youre weather youre not, youre valuing and when youre not, youre valuing renewal. Are you being more focused on it. This resonates with me. Naps are the key to my ability, you know, to be fresh and hopefully productive. Naps. Without question. You know, charlie, and given the life you have, i would imagine that you wouldnt be here without them. But in the 30minute nap and during a workday, you should never take more than that. Youll fall into the deeper stages of sleep. Never more than 30 minutes . Never more than 30 minutes. In a 30minute nap you can recover enough energy to bring as much as you would get from a full night of sleep for the subsequent oner to hours after that one or two hours after that nap. Theyre incredibly powerful and equally undervalued. I took a nap at 8 00, 8 00 to 8 30, so i would be fresh to prepare for the next day. Without question. And if we can get organizations like the Energy Project is out there trying to get Companies Like apple and google and coke and genentech, a range of progressive thinking companies to adopt practices which is a tremendous shift from focusing on the idea that you wanted to get more out of team recognizing that the best way to do it is to invest more in them. Meeting their needs. Hurst has a nap room, i worry if i go in i wont come out. You talk about working in 90minute intervals. A spectacular ive been talking about this subject with charlie rose since 1995. Its a spectacular way to, again, align with the rhythm of the body. The body moves from high arousal into fatigue every 90 minutes. If you work in that way, what you do at the end of 90 minutes, you recover and renew, and youre treated go back into the fray at the end of those 90 of the rest after the 90 mints. Some women may be saying this sountsds like its easy this sounds like its easy for men. Its harder for women to do that. Because youve got to put yourself back together afterward or women just have a hardy time napping . I never heard that before. Do they . No. I dont believe theres any sort of physiological evidence that women have a harder time. I know more men that nap than women. Ive had women tell me, you know, i wish i could do it. Yeah. Absolutely. Im one of those women. You know, whats extraordinary is i wrote this piece on sunday in the New York Times. You know, relax, youll be more productive. Its a measure of and a window into the despair and the exhaustion people are feeling that 48 hours later thats still the most emailed article on the New York Times. Its amazing. And was one of the one of the most important things you say about being productive is ritual. Everybody who says that, establish a ritual of when youre working, when youre napping, when youre exercising. If you can schedule whatever the activity the more you have to think about something, the less likely you are to do. The more you ritualize it, the more you put it at a specific time, and n a specific place on, specific days, the more likely are you to repeat it. If you have to think about something, youre in a lot of trouble. Yeah. Somebody once said about exercise, it should be like breathing. You know, you should do it automatically. All the things that you dont have to think about to get done you should automate in your life. You dont have the issue of sex here, do you . This is interesting. Im told never to talk about sex, religion, and politics in ll the work i do with organizations tell me. All right. We generally ask that on this show. Its rhythmic. Thats the farthest ill ever go. Okay. Rrhythmic. Got it. Not the first word that comes to mind for me. All right. Wow were veering off. This is scary. My fault, sorry. Thanks for asking. I am curious about the word, but ill move along. Thank you, good to have you here. Good to see you, tony. There was a time when it was common for air ships and blimps to fill the skies of america and europe. Changed with one simple word hindenburg. More than 75 years later, Bill Whitaker shows where air ships could be taking off again. Ive never seen anything that looked like this. There isnt one. This is the only one in the world. Reporter it looks like a big balloon. But engineer tim kenny with worldwide aros of tustin, california, calls this the evolution of air transport. You can carry it inside . Yes, the payload would be lifted from the bottom of the vehicle and stowed inside the vehicle. Reporter its called the aeroscraft. The 2270footlong, 100foottall prototype of the actual air ship. That will be twice as big, designed to lift tons of cargo. This here is a scaled down version of our 66ton vehicle. Reporter 66 tons. 66 tons. Reporter thats a big payload. 66 tons of payslowed a massive payload. Reporter harkable not just for what it can carry but where. There is no place this vehicle cant go. We can go anywhere theres no ports, no runways, it could be the rain forest. It could be the arctic. We can land on snow, ice, water. Reporter all at speeds putting traditional truck or ship Cargo Carriers to shame. 100 Miles Per Hour from new york to los angeles, little more than a day. Air ships seem so practical some wonder why they ever went away in the first place. Air ships first graced the skies back in the 1920s and 30s as surveillance platforms, Cargo Carriers, even passenger luxury liners. That all came to a tragic end in may, 1937. Terrible. This is one of the worst catastrophes in the world. Reporter its believed a spark ignited the volatile hydrogen gas that kept the hindenburg afloat. 36 people perished. Hindenburg afloat. 36 people perished. So did the future of airships. I think the future of hindenburg is there. Reporter Igor Pasternak wants to erase the image. Hes designer and ceo of aeroscraft. His creation is lifted by nonflammable, lighter than air helium. Its not just bigger than earlier airships but far saf safsafe far safer, he says. Hes not alone. Dozens of companies are working on nextgeneration airships. Lockheed martin designed this to haul heavy equipment to remote parts of the globe. But the Aerospace Company couldnt find funding to mass produce it. Were very close. Probably closer than weve ever been since airships started being operated to building something that the commercial world can use. Reporter aviation analyst Graham Warwick says the only funder with deep pockets and technical knowhow to get new airships off the ground is the u. S. Military. Last august, the army and aviation giant Northrop Grumman took to the skies with this 517 million aircraft designed as a surveillance platform, loaded with cameras. With the afghan war winding down, it now sits in a hangar. Its further funding in doubt. One of the concerns is that the military will lose interest before the commercial world can pick it up. This is the gondola. Reporter the aeroscraft got off the ground with just 35 million from the military. But engineer tim kenny is convinced it will stay afloat because of its unique technology. This will control everything. So if i want to put the payload on, i just push a button, and it automatically will adjust the vehicle speed it will be lighter if we add the payload or become heavier if we remove the payload. Reporter that means no need for ground crews, long mooring ropes. It stays stable in high winds. Were ready to go. Reporter tim kenny took us for a short ride. I hear the engines, but i dont feel a thing. No. Its so smooth. Youre floating. Just like sitting in a balloon. Reporter 30 feet off the hangar floor and into the record books. Have you taken it up this high before . No. A first. No. A first. Youre the first one. Reporter all right. The aeroscraft is waiting for faa approval to take a test flight outside the hangar. Then this california crew is betting the skys the limit. For cbs this morning, Bill Whitaker, tustin, california. Nicely done, bill. Hes a near mythical figure in the world of organized crime. A new book reveals the inside look of Whitey Bulgers life. Well talk to one of the authors and former fbi insider john miller coming up. Im sure by now you know i got an informer in my outfit. Cop. The Police Department im not sure. Jesus christ. You sure its not the fbi . Yeah. Aint the fbi. That is Jack Nicholson in the departed playing a mob boss loosely based on Whitey Bulger. Bulger ruled south boston for decades before spending 16 years on the run. He was finally captured in 2011. A new book reveals bulgers violent life and his ties to the fbi. It is called Whitey Bulger americas most wanted gangster. And the manhunt that brought him to just. Were here with kevin coe, coauthor, and john miller, a former fbi assistant director. Good morning. Good morning. The trials coming up. You believe that whitey wants to make this what . He wants to change the narrative. To this point, everybodys told his story for him including us. What he wants is to refute two points. He says he was never an informant for the fbi. He says he never killed the two women whose murders are among the 19 hes charged with. Those are the two things he most wants to refute. You say its about getting even. Hes not even going to get acquitted you say. Theres no way that guys going to walk out of prison. But i think he feels like this is his last chance. As he calls it, the big show. He didnt go out in a blaze of al gory in santa monica. He wants to go out in a blaze of glory in the courtroom. How could he be an fbi informant and kill people while hes an fbi informant . You might want to ask the fbi that. Im looking at the fbi insider. How could that be, john miller . I think he wasnt just an informant. Whitey bulger was this rare class of what they categorize as top echelon informants. These are informants who are supposed to have extraordinary access. When you sign the deal you say you wont commit crimes, if you do, youll tell the fbi. This gets lost because theres a long trail of paper between the handler of that informant, in this case, a corrupt agent named john connelly. Fbi headquarters and the department of justice. I think what the handler says with a wink and a nod to the top echelon informant doesnt get all the way back there. Now, others would argue that, you know, headquarters had to be blind not to understand it. Well, its the old line, too, that you never should have the local wise guy being worked by the local cop. Yeah. In this case, it its they had rape. Yeah. I mean they had a relationship. Yeah. I mean they went back. The people who were supervising this relationship, theyd the fbi transfers people in every three or four years. John connelly could sell this to any guy who came in from out of town. They didnt understand boston to begin with. They certainly didnt understand southy. John bulger, right, his brother claiming that fbi agents who supplied information to him gave him immunity. What do we know about that . I think this is this is a fascinating crux here because his claim is going to be that i was never an informant. Which then raises the question, then why did they give you immunity. Right . How is he going to have it both ways . Well, hes trying to have it both ways. I think hes trying to create confusion out there more than anything. The statement that youre talking about, nora, what he was saying with his brother during a visit to the jail, at first it seemed crazy. I always say that whiteys crazy like a fox. So hes got something up his sleeve. Thats what interests me. I mean, whether Jack Nicholson captured him in terms of his personality or not. Well, i think whitey would look at that and say i was never that out of shape. That was really he was a vain guy. Still to this day doing 155 pushups in his jail cell at 83 years of age. And how mean was he . Well, i think the record speaks for itself. I mean, this is the other thing my coauthor, Shelly Murphy and i really tried to capture for lack of a better term the humanity of who this guy i think hes been a one or two hi twodimensional character for all these years. Hes a guy of incredible contradictions. He aspired to the ozzy and hair yet lifestyles. He was out doing crime at day. Then at night he would insist on being home at 5 00 or 6 00 for i sit down meal with his paramour and her children. And telling them to do the right thing. Dont be me. Stay in school. Study hard. Save your money. Stay in shape. Dont hang around with bad people. Theyre like, huh . I mean, thats the contradiction. This is a guy that is charged with incredibly cruel violence, shooting people in the head. When they had to put a dog down in louisiana, he couldnt look. He wept. Hes a guy that seems to have more feelings for animals did he think that he would ever be caught . I dont think he did. Why was he called whitey . Because as a kid he was a tow head. Blonde hair. Yeah. How was he able to be the master manipulator who managed to have the mafia on this set of puppet strings, the fbi on that set of puppet strings, and control over the neighborhood . Well, the guy is charismatic, john. I think anybody whos powerful or good at what they do, whether its politics, the law, tv, its are you charismatsic d. People like you. Kevin weeks, his protege said charlie, you could be running kevin weeks said to us, if whitey wanted you to like him, you would like him. And he would not give up until you liked him. I was fascinating. I thought, god, i wouldnt mind meeting him. Now, one we can arrange that. Thank you, kevin. Thank you. Weve got to go. I was fascinated by him. Thank you. Whitey bulger on sale now. Tomorrow, were talking with carry Underwood Carrie underwood. She brought home grammy gold. Thats tomorrow. This is cbs this morning. This has been a fun day. I know. No two days are ever the same. For me the best was the monsignor talking about that lightning bolt. That it was from a sign from god himself. And heres the video of it. Incredible. Happened just hours after the pope resigned. And then from Pope Benedict to dick cheney. Yes. Valerie jarrett. Tony schwartz on how to be more productive. All of us need more naps. Thats the rule. The takeaway from today. That does it for us. Up next, your local ne