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But 60 minutes gained access with a hidden camera. Here, members spend hours on the phone dialing for dollars rather than working for their constituents. Both parties have told newly elected members of the congress that they should spend 30 hours a week in the republican and democratic call Centers Across the street from the congress dialing for dollars. 30 hours a week . 30 hours is what they tell you what you should spend, and it is discouraging good people from running for public office. Not a day goes by where i dont think about my son. He was mike jr. He was my only son. He is what is known as a gold star parent, because his son, Mike Anderson junior, a marine, was killed in iraq. Now, the father sees it as his duty to help other gold star parents at this remarkable event. The burden that you have is unbearable. At time but when you come to this event, you take on the unbearable burdens of another 100 families. My son went abroad to help people he never met. 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Ohio has been hard hit by heroin, and we selected columbus because the area is Middle America personified, where companies have gone for years to test and market new products. Now its where drug dealers, many of them from mexico, are increasingly powerful heroin. We decided to go back to ohio this year to see what is being done or could be done to solve a problem that is killing at least 23 people in ohio every week. Angie, what is this with all these names on the wall here . Angie pelfrey we call this the death wall. Whitaker the death wall . Pelfrey yes. Whitaker why is that . Pelfrey majority of the people on this wall have died of Drug Overdose due to heroin. Whitaker Angie Pelfrey, a former nurse and recovering opioids addict, runs the new beginnings Rehab Facility in rural piketon, ohio. Pelfrey by 2010, we had about 50 names, total. But now, 2016, were over 3,000. Whitaker thats incredible. Pelfrey it is incredible. Whitaker many of the names are mothers, brothers, even grandmothers. Relatives or friends of angies residents. They come from all over the state, and nearly everyone knew people on the wall. Thats almost everybody. Theres 23 people in there on the wall from my hometown. Whitaker is it a small town . Yeah. Whitaker a new university of cincinnati study says one in five ohio residents knows someone who is struggling with heroin. One sheriff told us that up to 80 of the prisoners in his county jail have drugs in their system, largely heroin. What can Law Enforcement do . Mike dewine the attorney generals not gonna solve the problem your local sheriff, your local prosecutor is not going to. Whitaker Ohio Attorney general mike dewine is also a former senator and congressman. Weve been fighting a war on drugs now for decades. If this is the biggest epidemic that you have seen, this heroin epidemic, it sounds like were not winning that war. Dewine you know, ive been involved in Law Enforcement for four decades. And ive learned over those years that were not going to arrest our way out of this problem. Whitaker thats why mike dewine says hes encouraged by a congratulations. Whitaker theyre drug courts and deal only with drug cases. There are 91 in ohio. We went to one in columbus that was being run at the time by judge Scott Vanderkarr. He was handling only heroin cases four times a week. The judge believes heroin addiction is an illness and in his court, heroin addicts are treated more like patients than criminals. Judge Scott Vanderkarr and how long have you been clean . I have been clean for 84 days. applause whitaker there are students in the courtroom. A teacher, a state employee, the c. E. O. Of a tech company. If they come here for up to two years, get drug tested and stay clean, their heroin charges are dismissed. You sort of use the carrot and the stick. Judge vanderkarr absolutely. Whitaker you stick with the program or ill put you back in jail. Judge vanderkarr ill put you back in jail. And youre going to end up with a conviction on your record. Right before i went i whitaker under judge vanderkarr, 250 addicts went through the program, people who might otherwise be in jail or dead. You get resistance from other judges . Judge vanderkarr absolutely. Whitaker so whats whats their criticism . Its too touchy feely . Judge vanderkarr yes. Its too social work. Thats not my job. My jobs to be a judge. Dewine drug courts work. Ah, some people look at them and say, well, its you know, its the judge becoming a social worker. Its not true at all. Whitaker it worked for caitlyn and robert not their real names. They were both arrested for heroin possession and went to judge vanderkarrs court after being addicted to heroin for years. Caitlyn it was this, like, really, like, animal instinct level, like, obsession with with getting high. Whitaker you had to do it . Caitlyn even when i didnt want to, like, wou really using against my will. Whitaker where did you get the money . Robert stealing, lying, cheating. Using other people. Ripping other people off. Caitlyn i had no relationship with reality at all. Umm, my my thinking was limited to how i could get high. Whitaker in judge vanderkarrs court, they both were given a new chance. Robert its a gift. Whitaker whats the gift . Robert life. A new way to live, you know, and try to give me a little bit of some education on why im acting the way im acting, why i cant stop. Caitlyn they didnt treat us like criminals, i think that was a big thing. Whitaker after they passed random drug tests several times a week, went to therapy and stayed clean for more than a year, their drugrelated criminal charges were wiped off the books. Robert started a landscaping business. Caitlyn is in premed and wants to be a doctor. Caitlyn its freedom. And if i had those charges, i i wouldnt be able to continue on the path that im on now. Law enforcement folks who do see your behavior as criminal, and who do think you should be in jail for what you were doing. Caitlyn we did break the law. Robert yeah. Caitlyn but im talking about branding someone a criminal for the rest of their lives. It just doesnt work. Whitaker but its been that way for years in many ohio communities. We went to Hardin County, one hour outside of columbus. Jenna morrison i have eight felonies on my record that i will never be able to get rid of. Whitaker Hardin County is now experimenting with a drug court, but it didnt exist when Jenna Morrison first started using heroin seven years ago. Shes been arrested at least six times. Bradford bailey looked at this case. The old case whitaker the prosecutor in Hardin County, bradford bailey, says hes overwhelmed by drug cases. He takes a harder line than judge vanderkarr. Bailey were going to get them, because they dont have the ability to say no. They dont have the ability to stop using, some of them. They dont. Whitaker in 2011, Jenna Morrison overdosed and almost died. Prosecutor bailey charged her with felony heroin possession, internal possession. Jenna morrison i got charged with possession of heroin, because i had it in my system. Whitaker she was charged with a felony for that. Bailey thats what it is. Its a schedule one drug. No one can have it in their possession under any circums not even medicinal. Whitaker isnt isnt that a bit extreme . Bailey no. Thats the law of ohio. And its the law of the United States of america. Whitaker Jenna Morrison is no poster child for sobriety. But judge vanderkarr told us prosecutors have discretion, and its unusual to charge addicts, whove overdosed, with possession because a drug is in their system as prosecutor bailey did. Jenna sold a Police Informant small numbers of pain pills and a drug that helps wean addicts from heroin, bailey came down hard with nine counts of felony trafficking. When jenna and her sister stole cash and credit cards from their mother to support their heroin habits, bailey charged them with felony theft. Tracy morrison i couldnt stop them. I filed charges on my own daughters. Whitaker at her wits end, it was Tracy Morrison who called the police. Tracy morrison it resulted in five felony charges for one, three for the other. Whitaker felony charges . Tracy morrison felony charges. See i was thinking, because im naive, that 100 is petty theft. Well, no. They got them for forgery, and all all these felonies. And then they were trying to send them to prison, and i thought, this i just didnt even expect that to happen. Whitaker since she first used heroin seven years ago, Jenna Morrison has been charged with 23 felonies. Todd anderson is her lawyer. Todd anderson so theyre taking these lowlevel users and addicts, charging all these felonies, and then the problem is, is that they stack the sentences on them. And then when they violate their probations, then theyre getting lengthy prison sentence for whitaker the county prosecutor would say, theres just no denying she broke the law. Anderson i agree with that. But the issues what we do with them, and whats the sentence. The sentences got to be fair. Whitaker when we first met jenna last year, she had kicked her heroin habit with the help of a new drug called vivitrol, which blocks the effects of opioids in the brain. She went back to school and was managing to take care of her children. But she was still posted on prosecutor baileys website as a drug trafficker and she couldnt find a job. Her mother says she got depressed and started using cocaine. She recently was locked up again and the prosecutor charged her with five more felonies, making a total of 28. 18 have been dismissed; 10 remain on her record. Whitaker you think shes been treated fairly . Bailey where has she been untreated unfairly . Everything shes done shes chose to do. We didnt tell her to do these things. She chose to do felony crimes, not the state. Were not giving her a free pass. We dont give anybody a free pass. Whitaker but you also know that shes addicted to heroin. Bailey i have a lot of people who are addicted to heroin. Most of the people that are in our drug business, the illegal drug business, are addicted. Whitaker prosecutor bailey says the voters have told him they want drug addicts off the street. But Scott Vanderkarr says Law Enforcement needs to recognize the old, toughondrugs approach isnt working. That addicts like jenna need help, not punishment. He recently resigned his judgeship to help other communities in ohio set up their own drug courts. He meets with judges and elected officials like greg peterson, the mayor of dublin, ohio. Greg peterson i dont want anybody in dublin to have a problem and ever think, i dont know where to turn. Whitaker but many parents in the columbus suburbs told us they dont know where to turn, even if they can afford private Health Insurance to pay for rehab and detox programs. Christy and Wayne Campbells son College Football player, and a heroin addict. He was in and out of rehab three times, short rehabs because most Insurance Companies limit the length of inpatient treatment. Christy campbell the last one that he was in was in there two weeks. And the Insurance Company wanted to release him. Whitaker christy convinced the Insurance Company to give tyler two more weeks. Wayne campbell when he came home, there was there was something obviously different. I mean, he, like, he got it. Whitaker he he was talking about the future Wayne Campbell yes, this Christy Campbell talking about the future Wayne Campbell this is midnight. So we go to bed with the biggest sigh of relief that you could ever have. Its over. Tomorrows going to be a great day. Whitaker but tomorrow never came. Tyler went up to his bedroom, shot up and overdosed. Pelfrey new beginnings. This is angie. Whitaker at the new beginnings Rehab Facility, Angie Pelfrey told us what happened to tyler is not unusual. Pelphrey they get to a point to where theyre not using. They go out and want to use maybe one more time, just one more hoorah. And it takes their life because they s they go back to using the same amount that they did when they were ending the addiction. Whitaker their tolerance goes down after two weeks of rehab pelphrey right. Right. Whitaker they go home, shoot up the same amount they were using before pelphrey of her yes. And its taken their lives whitaker and its now an overdose. Pelphrey right. Whitaker Angie Pelfreys facility is a faithbased program, supported by a church and the local community. Addicts can stay without paying for up to a year. But angie has to turn away up to 20 people every day. There just arent enough beds. This is in regards to my son, hes a heroin addict, and hes asking for help. He needs help, or hes gonna die. You can call me anytime. Thank you so much. beep pelphrey its horrible to know that you have to tell a mother that youre sorry that you t that there is a good chance they may not live until the next day. Whitaker its a daytoday struggle. Angie says the odds of staying clean after a year at new beginnings are only 5050. Whitaker what do you think about what youre seeing and experiencing . Pelphrey my fear is that its never ending. Thats my fear. Whitaker never ending. Pelphrey never ending. Im not seeing an end to it anywhere. Because you build it the way you want it. My robert l. Hartford, please. The robert l. 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And they never stop. Nearly every day, they spend hours on the phone asking supporters and even total strangers for campaign donations, hours spent away from the jobs they were elected to do. The pressure on candidates to raise money has ratcheted up since the Supreme Courts Citizens United decision in 2010. That allowed unlimited spending by corporations, unions and individuals in elections. So our attention was caught by a proposal from a republican congressman that would stop members of congress from dialing for dollars. Given what it costs to get elected today, its either a courageous act, a Campaign Ploy or political suicide. David jolly tonight is not about claiming victory. Tonight is about committing to service. Odonnell Florida Republican david jolly won a special election to congress in march 2014. Facing a reelection bid that november, he was happy to get a lesson in fundraising from a member of his partys leadership. But he was surprised by what he learned. Jolly we sat behind closed doors at one of the party headquarter back rooms in front of a white board where the equation was drawn out. You have six months until the election. Break that down to having to raise 2 million in the next six months. And your job, new member of congress, is to raise 18,000 a day. Your first responsibility is to make sure you hit 18,000 a day. Odonnell your first responsibility jolly my first responsibility odonnell as a congressman . Jolly as a sitting member of congress. Odonnell how were you supposed to raise 18,000 a day . Jolly simply by calling people, coldcalling a list that fundraisers put in front of you, youre presented with their biography. So please call john. Hes married to sally. His daughter, emma, just graduated from high school. They gave 18,000 last year to different candidates. They can give you 1,000 too if you ask them to. And they put you on the phone. And its a scrip odonnell there are actually scripts for calls. And we got our hands on one distributed by the National Republican Congressional Committee to help g. O. P. Members invite donors to attend their annual fundraising dinner in march. It has this useful diagram. If the donor answers the phone, the caller should plug the unique opportunity to come together with House Republican leadership. If they get turned down, they should remind the donor that the n. R. C. C. Did a great deal to help maintain the majority in 2014. And if they get a yes, theres even an instruction for the caller to pause and let the donor speak. It must have worked. That n. R. C. C. Dinner raised more than 20 million, breaking records. It was attended by members of congress, major donors and lobbyists, including this man who was not too happy to see our camera odonnell but one successful fundraiser does not let Congress Members off the hook. The phone calls asking for money never stop. Jolly the house schedule is actually arranged, in some ways, around fundraising. Odonnell youre telling me the whole schedule of how work gets done is scheduled around fundraising . Jolly thats right. You never see a committee working through lunch because those are your fundraising times. And then in between afternoon votes and evening votes, thats when you can see democrats walking down this street, republicans walking down that street to spend time on the phone making phone calls. Odonnell by law, members of congress cannot make fundraising calls from their offices. So both parties have set up call centers just a few blocks away. This is where the republicans have theirs. So can i go in there . Jolly i dont think they would let either one of us in here, at this point. Remember, i stopped paying my dues. Odonnell what jolly means is that in addition to raising money for their own campaigns, thousands of dollars for their parties. Thats their dues. If republican members dont pay up, they cant use the partys call suites. No photos exist of the inside of either the democratic or Republican Centers. But with the help of a staffer, we were able to get into the Republican Center with a hidden camera. About a dozen tiny offices, equipped with a phone and computer line a corridor. This is where members of congress sit behind closed doors and plow through lists of donors dialing for dollars. Outside in the main hallway is a big board where the amount each member has raised for the party is posted for all to see and compare. Jolly it is a cultlike boiler room on capitol hill where sitting members of congress, frankly i believe, are compromising the dignity of the office they hold by sitting in these sweatshop phone booths calling people asking them for money. And their only goal is to get 500 or 1,000 or 2,000 out of the person on the other end of the line. Its shameful. Its beneath the dignity of the office that our voters in our communities entrust us to serve. Odonnell but you may not have a job if you dont fundraise. Jolly im willing to take that risk. Odonnell a risk because david jolly has pledged to stop personally asking donors for money. And thats not all. In february, he introduced a bill called the stop act, that would ban all federal elected officials from directly soliciting donations. But, congressman, with all due respect, stopping members of congress from making phone calls is not gonna fix the entire system. Jolly certainly not. Odonnell its not comprehensive Campaign Finance reform. Jolly it is not. This is congressional reform. It very simply says, members of congress spend too much time raising money and not enough time doing their job. Get back to work. And do your job. Odonnell the stop act would still allow members of Congress Others could still ask for donations on their behalf. Republican congressman reid ribble has signed on as a co sponsor of the stop act. After six years in washington, hes going home to wisconsin at the end of this term. Youve spent your life running a commercial roofing company. Rep. Reid ribble yeah. Odonnell and when you came to congress and heard how much you have to raise to keep getting reelected, did you want to quit . Ribble yeah, i did. Odonnell are you the only one who feels that way . Ribble no, no. F if if members would be candid, theres a lot of frustration centered around it. And some of this is the result of Citizens United, the Supreme Court decision that opened up really corporate dollars into the system. And so, if you want to have your own voice, if you want your voice to be heard as opposed to some outside group speaking for you, you better you better do your job and raise enough money that you can. Odonnell after the Supreme Courts Citizens United money poured in to super pacs, political groups which are allowed to spend unlimited dollars on ads to support or attack candidates for office. The last few years of congress have been the most unproductive ever. Rep. Rick nolan yeah, its unbelievable. I didnt hardly recognize the place when i came back. Odonnell congressman rick nolan, a democrat from minnesota, is also cosponsoring the stop act. Nolan was first elected to congress in 1974 but served just six years. He returned in 2013. Nolan it seems like i took a nap and i came back and i say, wow, what what happened to this place . Whats happened to democracy . I mean, the congress of the United States has hardly become a Democratic Institution anymore. Odonnell why . Nolan well, because of all the money in politics, in my judgment. Odonnell what has your party said about how members of congress should raise money . Nolan well, both parties have told newly elected members of the congress that they should spend 30 hours a week in the republican and democratic call Centers Across the street from the congress, dialing for dollars. Odonnell 30 hours a week . Nolan 30 hours is what they tell you you should spend. And its discouraging good people from running for public office. I could give you names of people whove said, you know, i would like to go to washington and help fix problems, but i i i dont want to go to washington and become a midlevel telemarketer, dialing for dollars, for crying out loud. Odonnell youre saying members of congress are becoming like telemarketers . Nolan well, 30 hours a week, thats a lot of telemarketing. Probably more than most telemarketers do. Odonnell the Republican House Campaign Committee would not tell us whether it recommends a specific amount of call time. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee claims it currently does not. But in 2013, at an orientation meeting, new democratic members were shown a model schedule. It was later published by the huffington post. It suggested representatives should spend four hours a day on call time and just two hours a day on the business of Congress Committee meetings and time on the house floor. The man in charge of the democratic Campaign Committee at the time was congressman steve israel, a democrat from new york. Thats more time calling and asking for money than constituent work or floor work in congress. Steve israel very frustrating. Odonnell thats what your message was israel yes. Odonnell to other lawmakers, spend more time raising money than working on your constituents needs or being on the floor of the congress. Israel very frustrating. The result of a system that is broken, the result of a system that allows unlimited amounts of money to be spent against you. Odonnell before Citizens United, about how many hours a day would you have to spend on the phone raising money . Israel i would have to put in about an hour, maybe an hour and a half, at most, two hours a day into fundraising. And thats the way it went until 2010, when Citizens United was enacted. At that point, everything changed. And i had to increase that to two, three, sometimes four hours a day, depending on what was happening in the schedule. Odonnell israel revealed hes spent more than 4,000 hours on the phone soliciting donations. Its something he wont miss when he leaves congress at the end of this term. Still, he doesnt support the stop act. Do you applaud congressman jolly for at least trying to do something on this issue . Israel look, im glad that congressman jolly is focusing attention on the issue. I would rather focus solutions on the issue. And if i believe that his bill was really going to be meaningful, was going to take money out of politics, i would support it in a second. But it really doesnt. If you asked me on a sca to to make an assessment as to the prospects of passage, one being the president should get ready to sign it and five being its dead on arrival, id put it at a 15. Its not going to pass. Jolly i urge you while you are here, before retiring and lamenting the amount of time you spend raising money, cosponsor the stop act. Odonnell despite jollys repeated pleas on the house floor to his colleagues, only six are supporting his bill. Why do you just have a handful of supporters for this act . Jolly i think people are scared to death of their own reelection. Theres a lot of people who will see me coming and break eye contact. They dont want to talk about it. Odonnell isnt this just a convenient way for you to campaign as an outsider . Jolly is it politically appealing . Yes. But that doesnt make it wrong. Odonnell jolly is now running for the Florida Senate seat being vacated by marco rubio. Its a race that could determine whether republicans hold onto control of the senate. We caught up with jolly at a blue jays spring training game in his florida district. How much is it going to cost to win the senate seat . Jolly boy, some sa odonnell 100 million jolly thats right. Thats right. Odonnell so how can you raise that money if you are not going to make any phone calls . Jolly we have a Robust Campaign team that can make phone calls, that can organize events, that can raise as many resources as we can possibly raise as a campaign team. Odonnell at the moment, jollys leading most polls against his republican primary opponents. But hes lagging in fundraising. And that makes his pledge to stop asking for donations look like quite a gamble. So what happens if you have not raised enough money, and its the last week of the campaign, and a super pac dumps in millions of dollars that might be distorting your record . Jolly at the end of the day, if you tell me that the only way to be a United States senator is to raise 100 million in florida, then im not the next United States senator from the state of florida. And thats okay. Its a shame for the system, but its fine for me. 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Now, some of theseil finding solace, once a year in San Francisco, in the embrace of the only people who can truly understand, other gold star parents travelling the same endless road. In downtown San Francisco stands an unusual war memorial looking as it did in the 1920s when it was a hotel and theater. After world war ii, marines wanted a living memorial so they transformed this into a club that, today, honors all vets. Mary shea i look at this building. Its like a ship that february. That once were inside here, were safe. We can be ourselves. We dont have to explain to anybody. Its sort of a subliminal language that we all understand. Pelley mary shea learned the was killed. Its a language that cannot be translated, and so she and her husband, bill, felt they could no longer be understood. Bill shea youre kind of cast adrift and youre sort of floating nowhere. And you dont know where to go or what to do and there they were. Understanding better than we understood the support that we needed. Pelley the gathering the sheas attend every year, is organized by women who call themselves the blue star moms of the east bay area, blue stars, with sons and daughters who served overseas. About 200 of californias gold stars attend this honor and remembrance event which begins with a reception. The next morning, each of the fallen receives a prayer. A grateful nation acknowledges your sacrifice and prays for your pce pelley latergold star parents and counselors lead conversations for smaller groups like Single Parents and siblings. Its all invitation only, no press. The only pictures we have are from the marines memorial association. Part of the hotel has become a Memorial Wall where every lost loved one since 9 11 is remembered. 6,846 stories. Tim shea was 22. Hed fought two tours in afghanistan and was in iraq on his third tour there, when his vehicle hit a bomb in august of 2005. Bill shea a night, thursday knock at the door. And we were sort of getting ready to go to bed. And i was in the bedroom and then i heard marys voice. Bill, come here, right no and i went out there and, and soon as we saw them, we knew what was, what we were facing. Pelley saw who . Bill shea saw the soldiers. The, the, theres a chaplain. There was, and, and, and two others. Was it two other soldiers who were there to tell us . Pelley tim grew up in northern california. Dad a lawyer, mom a teacher. How often do you come . Bill shea well, i come most every day and just have a little chat with tim. Pelley ten years ago, at tims funeral, mary noticed women she had never seen before. Mary shea where did these people come from, and why are they here . Why do they care . Pelley the strangers were blue star moms, including nancy totman. Pelley how many of these funerals have you been to . Nancy totman 42 funerals. And each one is difficult. Know that another family, their life, their normal, is never the same. Deb saunders i can think of a couple of parents right off hand pelley deb saunders understood their isolation. Saunders you can express your sympathy, but you cannot empathize with someone unless youre walking in their shoes and thats what i knew, we had to do, was somehow gather these folks together, that they were better equipped in their journey to help one another. Pelley to gather the gold stars, deb saunders reached out to a tough old leatherneck, retired marine Major General mike myatt, the president and c. E. O. Of the marines memorial association. Mike myatt deb saunders, she was a blue star mom. She came to me one day and she said, im worried about the gold star moms. We need to provide some kind of comfort for them. Saunders i knew general myatt had the resources to help us do it but i also knew he had the heart. And thats exactly what this took. Pelley heart led myatt to order the wall where you find Senior Airman Jonathan Vega yelner. He had volunteered after his single mom discovered that he was ditching class in college. Yolanda vega and i said jonathan, im going to give you two options, because you fooled mommy. You have a choice. Navy or air force . Pick one. Pelley yolanda vega thought those were the safer options. Vega he came over and he hugged me and walked away. And as hes walking straight toward the recruiter, he just went like this. Pelley he never looked back. The air force gave him maturity and purpose. He served in iraq, then afghanistan. And there, safe on base, he volunteered for an army patrol. There was a bomb. He was 24. Vega i was told that he was killed instantly. And. Yeah. My baby. Pelley yolanda barricaded herself behind Close Friends and family. Blue star moms sought her out and she was amazed. Vega being a blue star mother, coming over to a gold star mother and hugging were their worst nightmare. And yet, they are so willing to be part of our lives and ensuring our wellbeing. I couldnt have done it without them. Pelley your eyes light up when you talk about them and im trying to understand what it was that you found so uplifting, redeeming about that experience. Vega i knew that my son would always be remembered. And thats one of the biggest fears gold star families have, that our children will be forgotten. Thats not going to happen. Pelley the children, as parents will always call them, are celebrated at tribute tables. Their child lives again in every new introduction. Bill shea because when tim was a senior pelley we asked a few families to assemble, for us, their tabletop biographies. This is a picture of when she was little . Claire good yeah. Pelley meet alecia good. Daughter of claire and paul. A Senior Airman armed with what had to be the biggest smile in the air force. Pelley as you are with more than 100 other tables at the event, people come by. What does it do for you . Paul good it gives us a sense of that she didnt lose her life for nothing. Pelley in 2006ec was on counterterrorism duty near the horn of africa when her helicopter collided with another. She was 23. Her daughter tabatha was two. Claire good tabatha just recently went through her moms wardrobe and the first thing she did was put on her uniform and she looked just like her mom. It was cute. Paul good she realizes that her moms special and that she wont be forgotten and she tells people, my mommys a fallen hero. Mike anderson not a day goes by that i dont think about my son. He was mike jr. , he was my only son. He was my firstborn. Pelley Mike Anderson, senior, has been coming to the event all 11 years. Pelley when you see that new family come through the door at the next meeting, what do you tell them . Anderson tell them that we love them, we welcome them, again, were walking the same dark valley. I know how you feel. It does get a little better over time. People talk about closure. Theres never real closure, at least not in my mind. But there are steps forward to ease the pain, to help with that closure. Pelley what are those . The steps to ease the pain . Anderson faith, for me, going abroad, 2006 going to iraq myself to see some of the same faces, be in the region, breathe some of the same air that my son unselfishly fought and died for. Pelley you went to iraq. Anderson yes, sir. Pelley as a civilian . Anderson it was a need for me, it was more than just a want. Pelley Mike Anderson junior joined the marines the minute he got out of high school. In 2004, 11 days before christmas, he was shot retaking the city of fallujah. The burden that you have is unbearable. Anderson at times, yes sir. Pelley but when you come to unbearable burdens of another 100 families. Anderson my son went abroad to help people that hed never met, that he would probably never ever see again. Its just that, in some ways, its human nature to want to help others. Myatt and people asked me, what do you say to the gold star parents . I say, well, you dont have to say anything to them, just ask them, tell me about your son or your daughter. Man, they will just talk. They will just tell you all they can about the son or daughter. And its really something. I wished i had known this as a young officer. Because i went to vietnam and i had People Killed out of my platoon. And i was gonna go visit each family, and the very last one was in kansas. I was visiting them and i went to the house, and and the father said, come on in. And the mother, she had on her apron. I said, no, im in a hurry, but i want to tell you about your son. And i told them how he was killed and everything. They really appreciated. Then, wont you stay for dinner . Oh, i better not. I realize now they wanted to tell me about their son. And i wasnt mature enough to know it. Pelley thats why they wanted you to stay. Myatt yeah, yeah, and now i know it. Pelley for general myatt, there is redemption now, in making a home for the memories. Bill shea i remember one time visiting my sons graveside and thinking about how every day they would face the day and realize that this is dangerous and they did it anyway. I have a duty to do and this duty is dangerous i pelley tims death transferred that duty to you. Mary shea right. Pelley the duty to live your lives and to help other people in the same situation that youre in. Bill shea i think thats right. I think thats right. And thats the best way to honor him. Pelley once a year, gold star families are safe in the embrace of their peers, strangers who share an intimate truth; a life is lost, but love does not end. And now a cbs sports update presented by ford. At the bolero texas open, Charley Hoffman made a brilliant birdie at lathe ost t win by one for his fourth victory on the pga tour. 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