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To the ground. A nice clive drive for cleveland. For those of you expecting to see 60 minutes, you are watching the nfl on cbs, the browns and chargers. Im Andrew Catalon with Steve Beuerlein and tack task and scott kaplan. The chargers lead 2719. 60 minutes will be offseason its entirety immediately following this game except on the west coast where it will be seen at its regularly scheduled time. 4 20 to go. Duke johnson with a first down run for cleveland. Steve t. Denzel Perryman playing linebacker for san diego. Tackling his teammate, duke johnson. Both were at the university of miami last year. When you get to this point you have to start thinking, too, Cleveland Browns with less than four minutes, down by eight. Andrew taking a lot of time here. 3 40 to go. Playaction mccown. And thats caught. Short gain by Taylor Gabriel with 3 30 to go. Perryman makes the tackle. Steve t. great job by mccown to get that off. Weve seen that so many times where the guy comes up the field and the quarterback throws it and it gets batted down. He had the timing off and it didnt give gabriel a chance to make anybody miss. Andrew 3 05 to go. Its second and 7 from the 20. Mccown lofts one up for barnidge. Juggling catch, incomplete theyre saying he was out of bounds. Nely an incredible play by barnidge. Steve b. yeah, he double caught and it when he caught all right if for the second time he landed out of bounds. Thats very close. Thats very, very close. Mike pettine may want to throw the red flag. I think i would. And he just did. All he has to get is that elbow in with control or a knee before he comes in out of bounds. Very close. Steve b. it looks like the left elbow steve t. his knee was down before his elbow was. Thats going to be a catch. Steve b. the ball might have been bobbled though a little bit at the end. Steve t. this is going to be close. Its a catch in the backyard. It should be a catch here too. Here is your egg mcmuffin. Ill see you at home. The egg mcmuffin. Made with an egg cracked fresh in our kitchens and real butter. Only at mcdonalds. Im lovin it. [captioning funded by cbs sports division] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org]c andrew mike pettine has challenged the ruling of incomplete pass, as we go back to new york. Our officiating expert mike carey. Mike, what did you see on this play . Mike i see very much what you do. The receiver bobbles the ball while hes in the air but gains clear control, gets his knee down then the elbow down inbounds, maintains control as he roll is around when he hits the ground. If im in the booth, i reverse this to a catch at the 1yard line. Steve t. Steve Beuerlein and i are discussing it. Im with you, mike but he thinks as he rolls over on his back he loses it. One hand comes off but i still think his right hand has control of that football. Mike im with you, steve. Number two steve. His hand comes off but the other hand remains firm on the ball. Referee after removing the play, the call on the field is reversed. The receiver had presentation possession and his left arm was inbounds at the halfyard line. First and goal at the halfyard line. Andrew mike carey, thank you very much. First time this season mike pettine has won a challenge and what a challenge it was. First and goal from the halfyard line. Steve b. now Mike Pettines fear, obviously if they score here theyre going to go for two. But his fear is if they do tie the ballgame, Philip Rivers is going to have some time left on that clock. Andrew first and goal for cleveland. Duke johnson on the carry. Up the middle. He didnt get there. Stopped at the line of scrimmage. Its second and goal. Steve b. i dont think hes going to but for the chargers, two timeouts left. Steve t. he might start thinking about it. If they do get it before the two minutes, youd rather have the timeouts than the time. Andrew rivers watching. From the sideline. Its second and goal. Mccown, quick pass. Its caught, touchdown fittingly, its barnidge he made the big play on the catch and now mike pettine will go for two, try to tie the game with 2 09 remaining. Cleveland has not attempted a twopoint conversion so far this year. Steve t. that bringing out all their small wide receivers. This is a great throw. Barnidge squeezes it right on the goal line for the touchdown but now the browns bring on the small package. They go very light and very small at wide receiver. Barnidge is still in the game and the five linemen. Steve b. the possibility here for josh mccown. He is a very mobile quarterback as well. Always the possibility of a quarterback draw here in this situation. Andrew cleveland trying to tie the game. Steve b. and hes got a good look for the quarterback draw. Nobody in the middle of the field here if he can get through that first line of scrimmage. Andrew mccown, quick pass, caught and hes in Taylor Gabriel ties the game at 2727. Through there are a lot of cleveland fans behind that browns sideline and they are going nuts. Mike pettine throwing the challenge flag, coming up big and we are all knotted at 2727. Steve b. and what a great, great job by every member of the Cleveland Browns offense stepping up when they got a chance to make plays, from josh mccown all the way through to Taylor Gabriel at the end. Barnidge stepped up several times, crowell, all of them. Steve t. that was a great challenge by mike pettine. He go the a call from the guys upstairs, they said yeah, we have a chance at that. Wellexecuted drive all the way down the field. They wish theyd left less than 2 09 for Philip Rivers. But the chargers now are thinking this is still our game. All we have to do is get to the 35yard line of the browns to give ourselves as legitimate shot at it. Thats what theyre thinking. Andrew after the game, time permitting, subway postgame show. The chargers have two timeouts and the twominute warning. Keep in mind san diego has a rookie kicker in josh lambo. His career long was set today at 46 yards. Oliver back deem to receive the kick. Oliver is going to take this one out. At the 20. And out of bounds at the 27yard line. So the chargers will get the twominute warning and then the two timeouts. Out comes Philip Rivers. Steve b. and rivers has 24 gamewinning drives in his career. Trying to add to that total today. Plenty of time on the clock with two timeout, as we discussed. And there arent many people in the nfl youd rank above Philip Rivers in this exact situation. Steve t. but hes doing it with a completed offensive line and a depleted receiving corps. Hands off to wood hed. Gets around randy starks. Tackled at the 32yard line. That takes us to the twominute warning. All tied up in san diego. And youre all like. And then you remember theres verizon. Which is great, because if youre going to get the best iphone wouldnt you want to have the best network . Kinda makes you want to jump for joy. Tell all your friends and family. Even throw a party. Get up to 400 when you switch to verizon and trade up to the iphone 6s. And now you can upgrade to a new iphone every year without the wait. So youll always have the best iphone on the best network. tires squealing. background radio noise. chains clanking. pennzoil is taking Synthetic Motor Oil performance to a whole new level. tires squealing. engine revving. make the switch at pennzoilsynthetics. Com for special offers. Andrew tonight on cbs begins with 60 minutes and Driverless Cars, followed by the season premieres of madam secretary, the good wife, and csi cyber. Only cbs. 12 57 to go. You see the goalposts there. The wind is calm. There was a storm front that moved through earlier this morning but should not be a factor for the rookie kicker lambo if hes given a chance. The chargers have two timeouts remaining. From their own 32yard line. Rivers zings one to green with room to run. Up to the 48yard line, a san diego first down, a gain of 17. Steve b. san diego got lucky there. They could have easily called John Phillips for a pick underneath. Thats what sprung ladairis green. San diego got away with it. Andrew nohuddle offense for the chargers. Time ticking as we approach 90 seconds to go. Rivers fires sideline to keenan allen and he makes the catch at the 43yard line. Short of a first down. Time continues to tick. Steve t. they have plenty of time this is obviously fourdown territory. No need to hurry. They can run the football even if they desire. Andrew they do it here with woodhead up the middle Danny Woodhead tripped up at the 25 but san odieg moves into field goal territory. A gain of 19. And mike pettine now wisely uses a timeout. Because he knows that san diego is in field goal range and hes trying to preserve any time that he can get to get the ball back for his offense. Steve t. the Cleveland Brown defense saved it worst series of the day for the final one here. Mike pettine doing the right thing, calling the quick timeout to conserve time but right now the chargers now, you can bet theyre going to pull in the sails and theyre going to run the football here. Andrew danny wood hed has 10 touches for 134 yards today. He was with the jets when mike pettine was an assistant on the jets staff and peten told us last night that Danny Woodhead is a matchup nightmare and unfortunately that nightmare has come true for pettine today as woodhead is coveraging over 13 yards per touch. Each team with two timeouts remaining. Steve b. we will not see the ball out in the air again, i dont think, by the chargers at this point. Andrew woodhead on the ground. Gets a couple. Mike pettine immediately calls timeout. He has one left. 43 seconds remain. What a game weve had today. Five lead changes, three ties, including right now. Rivers to keenan allen for the first touchdown of the day but josh mccown has had a big day as well. Duke johnson, his first nfl tony . Ladarius green going up to make that play and rivers, his third touchdown of the day to John Phillips. But cleveland comes back, mccown the touchdown to barnidge after his incredible catch, and the twopoint conversion good to tie things up at 2727. Total yards almost even. What a game today here in san diego. Steve b. theres a huge difference between 13 and 22. Both these teams know that. Andrew woodhead. Not much doing. Mike pettine calls his final timeout. 37 second remain. Steve t. what looked to be the most dire of circumstances today for the chargers. They have three of their five offensive linemen out of this game, they lose two of their top receivers during the game. Their two corners are not 100 . Verrett and addae, the safety, both of these guys with out of this game. Steve b. you have to take your hat off to the offensive line. There was a little bit of concern, im sure, early in this ballgame from Philip Rivers and mike mccoy and frank reich about whether these guys were going to hold up. They found their rhythm and theyve played very, very well, especially considering the circumstances. Steve t. it looked bad early but they found their rhythm. The offensive coaches spread the defense out for the browns, gave them a chance to get their bearings and theyve done a great job. Andrew san diego will just take a knee. They can run the clock all the way down to three second and call timeout to set up a gamewinning kick for josh lambo. Letting the time run down and lambo is a unique story. Hes a rookie out of texas a m. He beat out nick novak in training camp, the longtime kicker here in san diego but prior to college, he played professional soccer. He was a goalie in the mls for the team in dallas. He spent four years as a pro Soccer Player, went back to texas a m, not drafted, came to san diego to battle nick novak, wins the job and now can win the game for the san diego chargers. Hes 22 today. And cleveland without a timeout remaining, will not be able to ice lambo. This will be from 39 yards. The holder is the punter, mike scifres. The long snapper is mike windt. Josh lambo for the win. And the kick is no good but theres a flag down. A flag is down at the 22yard line. Steve t. cleveland was offsides referee offside, defense, number 22. Steve b. you cannot make this stuff up. Mike pettine saying are you kidding me . Andrew Tramon Williams called for jumping. Steve t. right there he went early. Wow. Andrew the 12th penalty of the day against the Cleveland Browns, easily the most costly one. So lambo will get another kick. This time from 34 yards. Kick on the way and its good josh lambo gives the chargers the win cleveland has seen a lot of heartbreaking losses over the years and this one ranks right up there. A penalty on Tramon Williams gives josh lambo another attempt and lambo with redemption. The chargers go to 22. The browns fall to 13. Steve b. good snap. Great hold and the second time is true for josh lambo. Andrew mike mccoy couldnt even watch. And the reaction from the rookie lambo. From professional Soccer Player to charger hero and josh mccown, who threw for 356 yards today, buries his head. Mccown has lost nine straight starts now as he shares a nile smile with Philip Rivers. Steve b. let me say this josh mccown has nothing to hang his head about. Played a superballgame today. Andrew tonight on cbs begins with 60 minutes, followed by the season premieres. For Steve Beuerlein, steve tasker, this is Andrew Catalon. So long from san diego. Youve been watching the nfl on cbs, home of super bowl 50. 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We are at probably the largest transformative moment in the history of the automobile. Whitaker thats quite a statement from the head of the national highway Traffic Safety administration. But as you will see tonight, the biggest names in the Auto Industry and high tech are racing to develop Driverless Cars, powered by a form of artificial intelligence. So this is like, no hands, no feet, the car is in charge . The car is in charge. Stahl you put vodka in Water Bottles. I put vodka in Poland Spring Water Bottles and i put oxycontin in bayer aspirin bottles. Stahl Patrick Kennedy is talking about how he fed his addictions while he was a congressman. What he writes in his book is some pretty explosive stuff about himself and about his famous family. Are you worried about how the family is going to react . I know how some of them are going to react. Stahl theyre not pleased. No. Stahl theyre angry. Theyre angry. Logan what have we learned about the holocaust that we didnt know before you began your investigation . I learned that you like to see other people dying in front of you, killed by other people when you are sure you will not be killed. Logan it was a dramatic finding, one of many revelations this selfless french priest discovered about the holocaust that we never knew before. The method that hes used, extraordinary. We can understand minute by minute what happened in hundreds of localities where before we just had fog. Kroft im steve kroft. Stahl im lesley stahl. Safer im morley safer. Whitaker im bill whitaker. Logan im lara logan. Pelley im scott pelley. Those stories tonight on 60 minutes. Where our next arrival is. Red carpet whoa toenail fungus . Fight it with jublia. Jublia is a prescription medicine used to treat toenail fungus. Use jublia as instructed by your doctor. 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People can see better when theyre out doing their tasks, young people are moving back in town, the kids are feeling safer while they walk to school. And folks are making investments and the community is moving forward. 40 of the lights were out, but theyre not out for long. Theyre coming back. Whitaker Car Accidents cost us much more than time and money they also take a Staggering Number of lives. Every year on american roads, nearly 33,000 people die, almost all because of driver error. Thats the equivalent of a 747 full of passengers crashing once a week for a year. Selfdriving cars could save more than twothirds of those lives. Thats what the nations top auto regulator told us. Its no wonder the biggest names in the Auto Industry and high tech are racing to develop Driverless Cars powered by a form of artificial intelligence. Six years ago, google rolled out a prototype that jumpstarted the competition. Today, apple and uber are experimenting, too. We wanted to see how far the technology has come, so we hit the road in Silicon Valley, the new detroit for selfdriving cars. What do you have to do to make the car take over . Ralf herrtwich i just pull this lever. And now. Whitaker system is active . Herrtwich it goes. Whitaker Computer Scientist Ralf Herrtwich runs Autonomous Vehicle research for mercedes benz. He punched in a route and took us for a 20mile drive on city streets and highways in this s500, the companys most advanced selfdriving prototype. So, this is like no hands, no feet, car is in charge . Herrtwich yeah, the car is in charge. Whitaker right from the start, the car astonished us. As we approached our first intersection, it slowed down and steered itself into the left turn lane. Its a german car, so naturally it has a german accent. That was the voice of herrtwichs secretary. So it just took off by itself when the light turned green, and now its making this left turn by itself, with other traffic around. This is absolutely amazing. Just two minutes into the ride, we entered a freeway onramp. If you think a normal merge is nervewracking, try it with a driver whos talking with his hands. I must admit, i find it a little disconcerting that we are driving toward the freeway, and you dont have your hands on the wheel. Herrtwich shall i put them back on . Would that make you feel more comfortable . Whitaker no, no, no. Herrtwich gave us a rare opportunity to go on an actual test run near mercedes Silicon Valley lab. Almost every major auto maker is working on the technology here. Nissan has teamed up with nasa. Auto parts maker delphi put its system in this audi. It was the first to drive itself across the country. Back at that merge, dont hold your breath for the car to step on it. This s500 wont break the speed limit. Are you going to have little old ladies driving up behind you, beeping the horn to get going, get moving . Herrtwich some people have remarked that the car itself, in some cases, drives a bit like an old lady. Thats. Thats fine with us, for the time being. Whitaker especially since the car has driven about 20,000 miles without an accident. Mercedes made its name selling the passion for driving on the open road. Now, it sees a future in the growing desire to be driven through trafficjammed streets. Whats fueling this . Herrtwich people are increasingly asking for this. People probably have become used to live more with computers and interact with computers, and they feel more comfortable doing this. And so, all of a sudden, we see this interest. And hey, there are certain situations where i dont want to drive. Can your car do it for me . Whitaker first, youre amazed, then you begin to relax. Surprisingly, it took less than ten minutes to feel comfortable with the car in control. This is amazing. But dont get too comfortable. Herrtwich this is not good. Whitaker those beeps, thats not a sound you want to hear. It means the car senses trouble and needs a helping human hand. Herrtwich now, the vehicle asks me to take over. beeping herrtwich now, the vehicle asks me to take over. Whitaker at this intersection, that silver car got too close. Herrtwich this is. For example, i. Rather took over. It wouldve managed, but i, really it was. This was too close for us. Whitaker that guy was getting into our lane there . Herrtwich yeah. Whitaker it only happened a few times while we were driving around. Herrtwich says teaching the car to handle encounters like that silver car on chaotic city streets with impulsive human drivers will keep his engineers busy for the next decade. Im not an engineer. But how do you figure things like that out . Herrtwich the important thing about an Autonomous Vehicle is it has to have a very good sense of its environment. A vehicle cannot react to something it does not see, so we have to be very careful that we see everything that happens around us. Whitaker the car sees with an array of cameras and radar sensors designed into the body, feet in all directions. Herrtwich we can actually detect more quickly that something is happening that may cause an accident than the human driver can. Whitaker so these cars would actually be safer, youre saying, than a human driver . Herrtwich thats what we aim for. Whitaker thats what google is driving for, too. Its Autonomous Cars rely on roofmounted laser sensors to see the road. In the last six years, its fleet has driven more than a million miles. Chris urmson were getting to a place where were comparable to human driving today. Whitaker robotics scientist chris urmson is the director of googles selfdriving car project. He invited us inside his Silicon Valley garage, where the autonomous future is taking shape. Googles a tech company, not a car maker. Urmson absolutely. But the heart of what makes the Technology Work is the algorithms and the software, and thats one of the things that we are really quite good at. Whitaker there are so many variables, so many different scenarios. How is it possible to put all of that knowledge into a car . Urmson and thats really the trick, right . Thats what makes this hard. You cant just kind of go through and enumerate, you know, the 1,000 different scenarios it might encounter, because its not 1,000. Theres an infinite number of them, right . And so the trick is to develop these algorithms that can generalize. Whitaker by generalize, he means think, and this is how it works. The algorithms are trained to recognize other cars, pedestrians, cyclists, and animals from their movements, size, and shape. Each cars daily driving experience is analyzed, uploaded and shared. The cars can then make predictions and choices based on the collective knowledge of the fleet. Look in the lower left corner as one of urmsons cars encounters a pickup truck that stops to parallel park. Now, how does the computer know that its someone intending to back into a parking space, and not someone whos just stopped in the street . Urmson our cars have seen thousands and thousands of vehicles. And they get a feeling, you know, they get a feeling really for what the behavior of those vehicles are going to be. Whitaker really . Urmson so its seen lots of cars backing up, and so it understands if theres a space here, and a car stopped just in front of it, that means its going to probably back into that spot. Whitaker my smart phone has computer glitches. My computer has glitches. How do you get people to trust that this computeronwheels is not going to have a glitch . Urmson were all used to our bits of home computing doing funny things, right . And what you have to remember is theyre engineered and designed very differently. The way we develop the software, the way we develop the hardware, you know, the way we think about redundancy, the way we think about the situations it has to deal with on the road, its completely different. Whitaker right now, the technology cant handle snow. Googles cars cant operate in heavy rain. The mercedes s500 cant decipher hand gestures from traffic cops or pedestrians. Four million miles of roads in the u. S. Must be mapped in ultrahigh definition detail. The auto makers call these solvable problems. In the meantime, the car industry plans to automate the driving experience feature by feature, what some are calling revolution by evolution. The revolution is already being televised in ads. Backup collision intervention which can brake, even before you do. Whitaker in showrooms today, you can buy features to automatically keep you in your lane, help you park, drive you in stopandgo traffic, and coming soon, hands free highway driving. Tesla is making it available this month. G. M. Plans to offer it in a 2017 cadillac. Mark rosekind we are at probably the largest transformative moment in the history of the automobile. Whitaker Mark Rosekind is head of the national highway Traffic Safety administration. He is optimistic but also realistic about this new technology. Rosekind this is really different than just thinking about the engine parts and the tires. Now, were talking about cars are computers, so issues related to Cyber Security and privacy are just as big an issue as the defect in the manufacturing process. Whitaker someone can hack your computer and steal your money. But someone can hack your car and you can die. Rosekind people have to trust these vehicles. If they read or suspect in any way that they literally could be one virus away from a crash occurring, theyre not going to get in that car. Theyre not going to buy it, theyre not going to let it drive them. That whole future evaporates. Whitaker rosekind also worries about a future in which drivers place too much trust in the cars. Rosekind think about how some of this is being sold. Oh, you can take a nap. You can read the paper. What would you do if you had to take over in a certain emergency situation . Nobody has that future totally nailed yet. Whitaker mercedes and other major carmakers say humans will always have a role in driving. But chris urmson of google says its dangerous to require humans to snap to attention and take control at a moments notice, so the company stopped developing cars that put humans on call. Now, its testing 25 fully autonomous electric prototypes custom built for the job. So i would punch in where i wanted to go and it would just take off and go there . Urmson and itd take off, you press the little go button under here. Pull away from the curb, take you where you wanted. Whitaker for safety, the cars max out at 25 miles per hour. They dont need steering wheels or pedals, but they have them to comply with current california law. Jamie waydo the goal of this is to improve the remote assistance link . Whitaker jamie waydo oversees the engineering. She used to work at nasa on Autonomous Vehicles of a different sort, the mars rovers. Waydo doing selfdriving cars here on earth is actually more challenging in a lot of ways. Whitaker more difficult than driving across the surface of mars . Waydo laughs i think so. Humans are so unpredictable. And so having to try to have a car who can outpredict an unpredictable human is amazing and really, really hard. Whitaker googles cars have been in nine minor accidents in selfdriving mode all, the company says, the fault of humans driving in the other cars. Google and mercedes told us, if their technology is at fault once it becomes commercially available, theyll accept responsibility and liability. But all involved expect fewer crashes as the technology evolves. For now, its accelerating to the near future and beyond. This is mercedes vision for the year 2030, the f015. Peter lehmann so we have an app. Whitaker you can summon it with your phone. Lehmann the car will start and come to you. Whitaker german engineer Peter Lehmann took us for a test drive at an old naval base on San Francisco bay. The cars radical design was shaped by expectations of life in the future. You turn your back to the steering wheel. Mercedes is planning for overcrowded cities, perpetual gridlock, and an Autonomous Car to drive the stress away. Lehmann now you can relax, or you can. Look a movie. So you have really gained time. Whitaker i feel like im driving into the future right now. Lehmann ah, ha, yes. Whitaker a future googles chris urmson says is coming and coming fast. So how long before that day . Urmson so. I talk about this is, i have two children 11 and nineyearold. And the 11 year old is going to be able to get a drivers license in about four and a half years. And my mission is to make sure that doesnt happen. Whitaker you want him to have a driverless car . Urmson i want him to have a driverless car. Or any of the ingredients in namzaric. Before starting treatment, tell the doctor about any medical conditions they have. Including heart or lung problems, seizures, stomach ulcers, bladder, kidney, or liver problems. Tell the doctor if the patient will have any procedures involving anesthesia, which may cause muscle problems. Other serious side effects may occur, including slow heartbeat and fainting; increased stomach acid, which may raise the chance of ulcers and bleeding; nausea and vomiting; difficulty passing urine, seizures, and worsening of lung problems. The most common side effects associated with namzaric are headache, diarrhea, dizziness, loss of appetite, and bruising. Woman mom and i share a lot of moments. And were making the most of each one. Vo ask your doctor if new namzaric is right for your loved one. Stahl the youngest child of senator ted kennedy, Patrick Kennedy, was supposed to be the heir apparent to a political dynasty. But after his father died, patrick resigned from congress and is now leading a Political Movement to change the way people view and talk about Mental Illness and addiction, that he himself suffers from. He says theyre medical issues, not moral issues or character flaws. And he wants them treated with the same urgency we treat cancer and heart disease. Now nearly five years sober, he has written a memoir, a common struggle, in which he traces not only his struggles, but those of his famous father and mother, revealing details about them that not everyone in the family wants revealed and some may dispute. His purpose, he says, is to show that when people have these illnesses, being silent about them is almost as bad as the disease. Patrick kennedy its a conspiracy of silence, not only for the person who is suffering, but for everyone else whos forced to interact with that person. Thats why they call this a family disease. Stahl and youre trying to take the stigma away. Kennedy well, im trying to figure out how do we move this away from shame and stigma into a honesttogod Political Movement. This isnt something esoteric about trying to take care of that alcoholic. God, dont tell me those people need us to spend money on them . Its about taking care of all of us, because these are americans. Theyre dying every day. And theyre our brothers and sisters. Stahl he says theres a pathology of silence about Mental Illness and addiction within families, especially his. In his book, he breaks what he calls the kennedy code of silence. Kennedy i dont tell in this book about my family stories as some way to talk about their story. This is my story. These experiences are embedded in me. Theyre who i am. Stahl you write im going to quote you from the book my father went on in silent desperation for much of his life, selfmedicating and unwittingly passing his unprocessed trauma onto my sister, brother and me. Kennedy thats right. Stahl selfmedicating . Kennedy yeah. Stahl so, that was the alcohol . Kennedy yeah, that was the alcohol. Stahl do you think he was an alcoholic . Kennedy you know, i think he definitely had a problem with alcohol. I still, right now, lesley, have trouble talking about this. This is like breaking the family code here. I am now outside the family line. Stahl outside the line talking about his dad, but also about the silence surrounding his mother joans alcoholism that he says he inherited. What was it like growing up with your mother . Kennedy it was so tense. My mother clearly would be inebriated and under the influence. She would walk around in the middle of the day, you know, in a terry cloth bathrobe. And the amazing thing is, here you have all of these leading policy makers in the country in and out of the house, coming in and out, watching this and no ones saying a word. The shame just becomes. Stahl you felt the shame . Kennedy oh my god, i felt like, oh, my god, theyre going to see. Mom, quick, lets get back into your room. Dont let. You know, i just understood this was not something that you want anyone to see. Stahl you write as a kennedy, and its a unique position that youre in. I kept thinking, you know, probably most families would have acted the way your family did. Kennedy oh, i know so many of them who cant talk about their own familys illnesses. You get infected by the pathology of silence. And that is sickening to your soul. Stahl he writes that while his mother was crippled by her drinking, his father was reeling. President kennedy died at 1 00 pm, Central Standard time. Stahl teddy was devastated by the assassinations of his two brothers. Kennedy when my uncle bobby was killed, it was like absolutely the floor dropped out for my father, absolutely the floor. Because they got to be buddies in the United States senate. Those were the glory days for my dad. You ever ask anyone, my dad was the happiest he ever was when he had his brother. Then, his brother was killed. Boom, over, show over. Ted kennedy those of us who loved him, and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us, and what he wished for others, will someday come to pass for all the world. Kennedy my dad never got to grieve. He had to be there for the country. He had to be there for my family. He had to be there for my uncle bobbys 11 children, and john and caroline. Stahl tell me whats welling up in you. You didnt know bobby. You were one years old. Kennedy yeah, but i knew the pain that came from his having been killed, because i saw my father kind of live in silent desperation for most of his life. Stahl are you weeping for him . Kennedy oh, yeah, of course, i do. No, i. I absolutely grieve for him. Stahl to this minute . Kennedy yeah. Stahl as people across the country wept for bobby, the second kennedy brother assassinated in five years, patrick writes that the family itself dealt with bobbys death the only way they knew how. Kennedy if you think we couldnt talk about my mom, we couldnt talk about my uncle bobby and the fact that his murder was still so present, you know, in all of our lives because it was unprocessed. Stahl you actually say that, because nobody talked about these things in the family, you were all kind of like zombies. You use that word, zombies. Kennedy well, we were living in a limbo land where all of this chaos, this emotional turmoil, was happening. And we were expected just to live through it. Stahl this is the first time a kennedy has been this open about the family secrets, these particular secrets. Are you worried about how the familys going to react . Kennedy i know how some of them are going to react, because ive already. Stahl oh, theyve seen the book . Kennedy yeah. Ive showed the book. Stahl theyre not pleased. Kennedy no. Stahl theyre angry. Kennedy theyre angry. Stahl chappaquiddick was Something Else they couldnt talk about. A year after bobbys assassination, teddy drove a car off a wooden bridge, drowning his young passenger, mary jo kopechne. He abandoned the scene and didnt tell the authorities till the next morning. This is where you had the conversation with your dad about. Kennedy this is where i had. Stahl . Chappaquiddick. Kennedy i guess you could call it a conversation. Stahl on the tenth anniversary of the tragedy, teddy brought patrick, then 12, to this beach in hyannisport specifically to talk about chappaquiddick, but then didnt. Kennedy i learned more about this by, you know, looking in the books and newspapers and articles and on tv. Stahl do you think chappaquiddick had an impact on you . Kennedy i couldnt even talk about it. I was hostage to the family code that, no, dont say anything about it. Anything you say, its disloyal. Its against the family code, and it doesnt matter whether its in a private therapy session. That psychiatrist could go out and tell somebody. Stahl the way patrick dealt with it was to drink. He was heavily into alcohol by the age of 13. And nobody in the family either knew or did anything . Kennedy you know, it was ubiquitous. There were. There was alcohol and theres parties all the time. It wasnt like, oh, i stood out. Stahl by the early 1990s, his fathers drinking had become so heavy, the family decided to stage an intervention. Kennedy i remember him closing the sliding doors. And then sitting down in his big blue suede chair and we all said, were worried about your drinking. You need to get help. Its affecting us. Its affecting the family. And, uh, he stood up, you know, opened the sliding door and walked out. Stahl not a word . Kennedy and then he wrote me a letter. And he basically said, you know for the time being, you know, dont think of coming by to, you know, visit. Stahl oh, my word. He stopped talking to you . Kennedy thats. Thats the way it came down. He felt that we really had no place, no place whatsoever to question him. Thats the defensive position of every alcoholic. Go mind your own business. Back off that was the message. Stahl you know, there are people who thought of your father, he thinks the rules dont apply to him, that he can drink and carouse as he was doing, because, you know, hes a kennedy. Kennedy yeah, theres no partying in there. Theres no enjoyment. Stahl there was no enjoyment . Kennedy this is about relieving the pain. People have this mistaken notion that you get high. What youre really getting is relief from the low. Stahl when he was elected to congress in 1994, patrick was struggling not only with alcoholism, but with Mental Illnesses anxiety, depression, and bipolar disorder. He was drinking and popping pills at the office. You put vodka in Water Bottles. Kennedy i put vodka in Poland Spring Water Bottles and i put oxycontin in bayer aspirin bottles. Stahl it all came to a crashing halt, literally, in may of 2006 when he plowed his car into a Capitol Hill Police barricade at 3 00 in the morning. Kennedy the tv cameras start piling up outside my congressional office. Im thinking, this is over. Stahl the next day, he broke through another barrier the kennedy wall of silence, going public with the fact that he was an addict. His father was furious. Kennedy he just lashed out. And these arent things we talk about in public and, you know, blah, blah, blah. Stahl Teddy Kennedys son is the poster boy for addiction oh, no. Kennedy no, no, no. Stahl teddys attitude, that addiction was shameful, was far from unusual for his generation. But his attitude changed when patrick gave an impassioned speech on the house floor in support of his bill to expand Health Insurance coverage for addicts and alcoholics. Kennedy lets pass Mental Health parity. Stahl the speech persuaded teddy to support the bill. Patrick writes that his father didnt feel he measured up, until then. This is a huge moment in your life. Kennedy in my life. I mean, who gets to have this experience of coming full circle . Stahl after his father died in 2009, patrick, at age 43, retired from congress. A year later, he got married for the first time to amy savell, a middleschool history teacher. Kennedy hold on to her, harp. Stahl they have three children, and one on the way. It wasnt until he committed to stop drinking that she agreed to marry him. Kennedy welcome to my house. Stahl today, they live here in southern new jersey, where he directs his new Political Movement, what he calls the kennedy forum, from his study, sitting at president kennedys old congressional desk. His regimen for staying sober includes an hourlong swim every