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[laughter] stahl the older people are passing it on to the Younger Generation and the Younger Generation can pass it on to the next generation. I dont want this music to die. Stahl there sure didnt seem to be any risk of any music dying here as five groups took the stage to perform before a packed house in harlem. Im steve kroft. Im lesley stahl. Im bob simon. Im lara logan. Im bill whittaker. Im scott pelley. Those stories tonight on 60 minutes. Cbs money watch update sponsored by calling all chief life officers. Glor good evening, north korea says new u. S. Sanctions demonstrate inveterate hostility. Irans president called on its government to end monopolies and embrace competition. And the incoming chair of a Key Senate Committee says hes open to raising the federal gas tax which hasnt moved since 1993. Im jeff glor, cbs news. I have a cold with terrible chest congestion. Better take something. Theraflu severe cold doesnt treat chest congestion. Really . 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Could the same thing happen in afghanistan . The u. S. Combat mission officially ended on december 31, but in a sign the afghans need more time, the u. S. Agreed to still play a limited role on the battlefield. Under general campbells command, American Forces will fly combat operations for afghan troops when needed, and u. S. Special Operations Forces will continue to hunt down al qaeda with their afghan counterparts. But after 13 years of fighting the war as americans have known it is over. Americas longest war is being reduced to dust and rubble. You can see it here at Bagram Airfield half the base is gone. Barracks, where soldiers slept torn down. Bunkers bulldozed into piles of sandbags. Equipment and vehicles shipped out at a relentless pace, and close to 300 u. S. Bases shut down to meet the deadlines set by president obama. Much of what is left now belongs to the afghans. John campbell weve been at this for 13 years, been a lot of blood, sweat, tears. But ive seen some good progress, as well. Logan 57yearold John Campbell is one of the youngest fourstar generals in the army and this is his third tour in afghanistan. To show us what billions of dollars in foreign aid has done to make kabul more modern, he flew us over the city just hours after we arrived. This was among the darkest capitals in the world when the u. S. Got here. Now, the ancient city is ablaze with light. Campbell this is a perspective people dont get kabul at night here, the lights. Logan when i came into kabul for the first time with the. The afghan forces, when they took the city from the taliban in 2001, there wasnt a single light. Campbell just take a look at the highway lights. Logan but millions of people across afghanistan are still without power, and the lack of security threatens whatever progress has been made. Last year was the deadliest of the war more than 5,000 Afghan Soldiers and policemen killed. At this memorial down south in kandahar, general campbell paid tribute to some of their fallen. Afghan Major General abdul hamid was at his side. He lost close to 200 of his men this past year. You believe that the Afghan Security forces, particularly the Afghan National army doesnt get the credit it deserves. Campbell its the number one respected institution in afghanistan. Couple years ago, i probably wouldnt have said that, but today it is. Theyve taken this fight on, theyve gotten them through two very, very tough fighting seasons, and the last one, predominantly, all on their own. Log cant afford to pay for them. The afghan army, the police, the air force, theyre all paid for by the u. S. And its allies. Casualty rates theyre dying in huge numbers. Unsustainable, according to your deputy. The attrition rates another area of concern. Campbell yeah, i mean, theres challenges. They know that the army they have today probably will not be the size several years from now. They just cant afford that. The casualties you brought up, you have to take a look and put that in context. So, in fighting season 14, their operational tempo was at least four times greater, so you expect probably casualties to go up a little bit. Logan leading the fight afghanistans elite special operations units. The Defense Department released this video, which shows afghan commandos on a nighttime clearing operation. At the height of the fighting season this past summer, they carried out over 150 missions every month. Eight years ago, these forces didnt exist. General campbell flew us out to their main training facility, in the high desert on the southern edge of kabul, where they allowed us a rare opportunity to see some of these soldiers up close. They have their own wing of specialized pilots, and on this training exercise, the afghan commandos showed how they would assault an enemy compound. While they operate mostly on their own, they still rely heavily on the u. S. In areas like intelligence and logistics. And there are fears over what will happen when the americans withdraw, heightened by the collapse of u. S. Trained forces in iraq. Campbell there is a lot more talk from many of the Senior Leaders i deal with on the. On the Afghan Security forces about iraq and syria, and whats going on, and saying, hey the Coalition Left iraq, and a couple years later, look what happened. Dont let that happen to us here in afghanistan. Logan the u. S. Significantly underestimated the risks of withdrawing completely from iraq. Do you face any of the same risks here . Campbell the fundamental difference is that the Senior Leadership, both on the military side and in the government, want the coalition. They wans. To stay here. Logan but do we share any of the same risks . Campbell therell still continue to be threats here in afghanistan that will try to dictate that is it not stable, so absolutely. Logan general campbell has to weigh those risks against his orders to end this war for americans. Here, he was pinning medals on some of the soldiers he was sending home. Under president obamas mandate, u. S. Troops are now down to about 10,000. Therell be half of that in a year, and in december 2016, the u. S. Mission is supposed to be over. Youre operating on the president s timeline here. How much wiggle room do you have . Campbell as any commander gets on the ground, he has to make an assessment, and then provide his best military advice with Senior Leadership. So im constantly making those assessments. Logan so you dont feel boxed in . Campbell well, i. I feel like. You know, im a four star general im not sure what you mean by boxed in. If it. If it means boxed in on the number of people i can have here and the timeline im on again, if the. If the Administration Just wanted somebody to come here and say, hey, youre not going to make any changes, youre going to do x, then they wouldnt need a leader that had the experience. They wouldnt have picked me. Ashraf ghani deadlines concentrate the mind. But deadlines should not be dogmas. Logan ashraf ghani is the new president of afghanistan, a former World Bank Official who has spent much of his life in the u. S. Ghani if both parties, or, in this case, multiple partners, have done their best to achieve the objectives, and progress is very real, then there should be willingness to reexamine a deadline. Logan did you tell president obama that . Ghani president obama knows me. We dont need to. To tell each other. Logan it took a firm hand from the u. S. To get president ghani and his chief political rival, dr. Abdullah abdullah, to share power after a bitter dispute over fraud in the president ial election. Its general campbells job to stay close to both men. Hes now invited to attend their National Security Council Meetings here in the palace, and says the new government is on the offensive. In our interview, president ghani had strong words for the nations enemies. Ghani do not ever threaten an afghan with violence. We will rise as one, and we will face every threat the way we have taken on thousands of previous armies and conquerors. This is the moment of destiny. Work with us to transform asia. But should you threaten our existence, everybody will be destroyed, not just us. Logan you say that with a smile at the end. Ghani well, because i want to make sure people understand who they are dealing with. Logan who are they dealing with . Ghani the bones of my ancestors guide us. This country was not the gift of anyone. It is the results of millions of people sacrificing. What did we have . Our bare hands. Logan one of president ghanis Biggest Challenges is something John Campbell has dealt with before. When we first visited him here four and a half years ago, he was in charge of eastern afghanistan, which borders pakistan. During that visit in 2010, we were caught in an ambush with his troops along the frontier, a routine event for u. S. Soldiers who faced the Impossible Task of fighting an enemy that flowed freely from its safe havens in pakistan. Weve had this conversation before 2010, when you were division commander. Campbell three hours, you made me talk about pakistan. Logan and nothing has changed on the battlefield. In fact, the pentagon, in their most recent report on afghanistan, said that, the resiliency of the afghan insurgency continues to depend on sanctuary in pakistan. Campbell well, everybodys been frustrated with pakistan. Afghanistan has been frustrated. Pakistanis have been frustrated with afghanistan. But ive seen change here just in the last couple of weeks with engagement with the Senior Leadership. Logan lets look at what hasnt changed in 13 years. The pentagon, in their most recent report, said that pakistan is continuing to provide sanctuary to americas most lethal enemies in afghanistan, the haqqani network, which they describe as the most potent strain of the insurgency, the greatest risk to u. S. And coalition forces. Campbell yeah, i agree with. I agree with you. Haqqani, you brought up. Theyve been the greatest threat to the coalition. Ive lost many soldiers because of haqqani members. Am i frustrated because they come in afghanistan, they go into pakistan . Of course, i am. Logan the pakistanis protect their leadership. They allow them to recruit. They allow them to rest. Campbell i agree. You know, im not going to tell you that im a friend of haqqani here and that pakistan is not providing them sanctuary. They are. Weve known that for years. Ghani well either sink together or swim together. Weve both become mutually vulnerable, and we both need to understand that stability in one isnt conceivable without the stability in the other. Logan can you understand the skepticism, though, given pakistans actions here . Ghani skepticism is part of your job. The job of an elected president is to overcome the past and change the playing field. My people are bleeding. It is precisely because of that that i need to make sure that peace comes. Logan but in remote parts of the country, like these mountains in kunar province, president ghanis enemies are entrenched. We asked a local journalist to meet up with the taliban fighters there. The u. S. Ceded this ground to them when american soldiers were pulled out of here. This man, who goes by the name qari abdullah, claimed to command 150 taliban fighters. He said, we will fight against democracy, wherever it is. And he used this interview as an opportunity to pledge support for the Islamic State, which has threatened to move into afghanistan. May we be united to spread our ideology throughout the world, he said. Are you concerned about the rise of the Islamic State and what threat that could pose here . Ghani yes. Yes. Because the past has shown us that threats, that networks change their form. Logan but their ideology hasnt changed. Ghani their ideology gets more radical. Logan how concerned are you about that threat . Campbell there have been incidents of recruiting, of night letter drops that talked about different parts of the country. So, theyre concerned. If theyre concerned, im concerned about that. But i think, with the military they have here, with the conditions that are set, this. Again, this is not iraq. I dont see isis, isil coming into afghanistan like they did into iraq. The Afghan Security forces would not allow that. Logan as general campbell transforms Americas Mission theres no Peace Agreement with the enemy, no decisive military victory, and no end to the war in sight. His challenge is making sure the soldiers he brings home do not have to go back. The u. S. Came to afghanistan after 9 11 to defeat al qaeda. 13 years later, as the u. S. Leaves, al qaeda is still here. Campbell whats the question . Logan thats the question. Campbell are they still here . Are there small pockets . Are there leadership that we continue to go after and a network that supports them . Of course. Are they at a level that they can continue to attack and plan for the United States . Were doing everything we can today to make sure they dont have that capacity. But i think were going to have to keep continued pressure on that. Once you take that pressure off, its only a matter of time before they continue to build that back up. So thats why its so important that we do build upon the afghan capacity to keep that pressure on. If we get to a point where i think their capability cant do that and theyre still a threat to the United States, then ill make sure my Senior Leadership understands that. What does general campbell has to say about the way americans think of the war in afghanistan . Plenty. Go to 60minutesovertime. Com correspondents rd by viagra. About half of men over 40 have some degree of erectile dysfunction. Well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. And remember, you only take it when you need it. Ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach and abnormal vision. To avoid longterm injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. 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You havent heard them because for most of the performers, this is their first time on the stage. Theyve been singing their whole lives in church, in amateur groups, in the shower but like so many who had dreams of making it big, life somehow got in the way. The show was created by a theater producer and former disc jockey named vy higginsen, who has made it her mission to preserve a special part of American Culture African American music, both gospel and popular music like soul and r b. She found a pool of untapped talent, men and women in what she calls their second half of life, just waiting for their chance to shine. Stahl the show is called alive 55 plus and kickin and while that certainly fits the men and women who fill this harlem stage on saturday afternoons, alive also refers to the music, and that is just how vy higginsen wants it. Higginsen the older people carry the music in their body, in their mind. If they die, then that sound may be gone forever. Stahl her idea was not just to celebrate the music. She also wanted to produce a show about the Life Experiences and struggles that created it. She figured shed start by finding the voices, then write stories for each character afterward. At least that was the plan over a year ago when she put out the call for auditions. Higginsen we talked about it on the radio, auditions for 55 plus, and they said, this is a youthoriented society. Nobody wants to hear about us. I want to hear about you singing aint no sunshine stahl theo harris, 65, was one of more than 200 people who showed up to audition. He had caught one of the radio announcements on his way home from work. Harris i pulled the car over to the s waiting for. Stahl 55 and over, im there. Harris im there. Thats for me, yes. Stahl debbie bingham, 56 always wanted to sing, but she needed a steady job to raise her family, so she became a nurse. Bingham i worked in pediatrics, in the trauma center, so i did a little bit of everything. Stahl did you ever dream of being a professional singer . Bingham all the time. Stahl renee walker, also 56, works for her local school district. Walker when i started working there, i told myself it would just be a temporary job until i made it as a singer. So ive been there 31 temporary years. Stahl in some cases the talent was obvious. In others, like a 75yearold named Matthew Brown, a little less so. Higginsen oh, Matthew Brown. When he walked through the door, he came in. He was bent over looking down, and i was thinking to myself, whats gonna happen here . Stahl hehes not right for this show. Higginsen well, i dont know. I mean, look at. Whew. Stahl she looked at you and said, uhuh. Brown yes. Yes. Yes. Stahl she told you that . Brown she told me that. Higginsen he took the mic. He pulled his shoulders back. He started to sing. And i fell out in my chair. Ah brown shall always be my song of praise. Higginsen my god thats what im looking for. Brown and i looked at her. And she straightened up. laughs higginsen who sings like that today . You cant turn on the radio and hear that. But i heard that when i was a young girl. Stahl he sounded to her like nat king cole. Did you know you had. That you got it . Brown iii told myself, you got it. But i wont. Ii wont say anything. singing aint no sunshine stahl vy heard a different sound in theo harris voice. Higginsen i put him a little bit in the crooner doowop section. Stahl the doowop. Higginsen the doowop time. Stahl vys plan had been to create a story for each singer that would match their individual sound. That was before she knew what kind of stories were right in front of her. Theo harris revealed at his audition that he had spent time in prison. When he said how much time, he wasnt sure anyone heard him correctly. Harris greg kelly, who was the pianist, said, wait a minute, how many years did you say . And i said, 40. Kelly 40 . Harris yes. Kelly four zero . Harris yes. And thats when vy heard it. Higginsen 40 years in prison . Harris in and out. Stahl harris told her he had committed burglaries, many in her neighborhood, harlem, to get money to feed a drug habit. Vy told us she was conflicted, she and her husband and collaborator, director ken wydro, made their choices and assembled a cast to start creating the show, theo was sitting front and center. Why did you pick him if hes this person who destroyed your neighborhood . Higginsen because hes part of it. Hes part of the big picture. I cant ignore that. And perhaps it was necessary for him to have a second chance. Perhaps he deserved it, another chance. Stahl and theo harris wasnt the only one they had chosen with a dramatic story, and he wasnt the only one who needed a second chance. Matthew brown, born the fourth of 13 children in north carolina, had spent most of his life illiterate. Brown i was just ashamed, or i dont know what it was. But i justjust couldnt learn. You pull up a piece of paper and say, read one word, im ready to run some place. Stahl for decades, he drank until the alcohol started to affect his singing voice, and that terrified him. Brown i remember the last drink i had. It was a guy i was drinking with. I told him, i said, this is the last drink you ever gonna see me drink. Stahl of course, he didnt believe you. But was it the last. Brown he might have been too drunk. That was it. Stahl that was it . Brown thats been 28 years ago. Stahl 28 years ago. Brown november the 2nd, 28 years ago. Higginsen when we heard his story, i just fell apart. I just. Thats when you knew that you had to tell that story. Stahl yeah, you couldnt. Higginsen you cant. You couldnt really make that one up. It was a turning point. Stahl vy and ken decided to take a risk to have each singer tell his or her own true story paired with a song. Debbie bingham, the nurse, wanted to talk about losing her son. He passed away four years ago. Bingham my son was diagnosed with cancer when he was 34 years old. Stahl oh, my word. One who took care of him. Bingham it didnt matter how much i knew. It didnt matter how much i helped other people, i just couldnt do anything. Stahl debbie knew what she wanted to sing in the show i will always love you, the song made famous by whitney houston. Bingham only problem was vy wasnt crazy about it at first. Higginsen i wasnt sure. Stahl why werent you sure . Higginsen if that song is not sung the right way, it misses big time. Bingham ken said yes. Vy said no. Ken said, why not . Vy said, because. And i said to her, if you give me the chance to show you, i promise you you wont be disappointed. Higginsen how do you say no to that . Stahl you cant say no. Higginsen i cant say no to that. But i did say, okay. But have another song just in case. laughs stahl theo harris wanted to sing about his time in prison and how it was music that got him through. Harris they had a 10 00 bell, which meant all talking ceases. So one evening i started singing. And it was real quiet. And then when i finished, i heard somebody say, who was that singing . And i. Hesitantly, i said, tha they said, well, keep singing. Stahl keep singing. Harris keep singing. I was their radio from that point on. Stahl any song you felt like . Harris and. Well, they. And took requests. Stahl oh, took requests . Harris and took requests yes. Stahl harris used his prison time to get an education a College Degree and then a masters in playwriting. When a musical he wrote wasd at the prison, music brought him Something Else a leading lady. Phyllis harris of course they had to get somebody from the outside, cause its all male prison. And so my sister doris, she volunteered me. Stahl phyllis and her sister do volunteer work at the prison through their church. Harris so when she came in we saw each other for the first time. It was just some chemistry there. Stahl right away . Harris right away. Stahl did you know that he had been a drug addict . Phyllis harris after our first meeting. Stahl he told you everything . Phyllis harris our first visit, he told me everything. Stahl and she played your wife . Harris she played my wife in the play. And seven months later she became my wife. Stahl she married you while you were behind bars . Harris while i was in prison, yes. Stahl turns out vy had cast phyllis in the show without even knowing she was theos wife. Vy felt she was hearing the stories of a generation, the generation that came of age during the era of urban decay and the struggle for civil rights the black baby boomers. Higginsen that was one of the most creative musical time periods. There were sounds that were created out of the emotion. Stahl but not everyone in the group had such dramatic stories of struggle. Renee walker, the school clerk raised her two children in a middleclass suburb. Wydro okay, whoa whoa whoa what were you feeling singing that . Just now, what were you feeling . Walker its hard for me, because i dont really like to talk about myself that much, not mymy innermost feelings. Stahl but ken was adamant about us getting in touch with our feelings they decided renee would sing about something that was really more Success Story than tragedy watching her sons leave home to go off to college. Wydro and what did you feel when you had to say goodbye . Walker sad. Wydro sad. Stahl you wanna sing on the stage, it has to come out. Walker it has to come out. Stahl and there was one last story, from a man named Matthew Burke. He and theo harris had sung together in prison. He sold drugs, and committed violent armed robbery, but what he wanted to talk about in the show was what he had recently discovered in a case file about the first weeks of his life. Stahl it says that you were abandoned at twoandahalf weeks in a hallway. Burke yes. Stahl mother unknown. Father unknown. The first thing most of us get from our parents is a name. He was simply abandoned 2360. You are a number. Burke and you wanna know something . I became 81a3684. I became 00a6432. Thats been my life a number. Stahl youre smiling. But you dont mean it. Burke right. And thats the defense mechanism. Stahl cause its horrible. He was named Matthew Burke by a priest in the first of many foster homes. When he sings the song georgia, he told us hes trying to give a name to what he lost. Burke if i had to give my mother a name. And i could give her a name. I can. It would be georgia. Stahl i know a psychiatrist who says the most important question she asks somebody is, when you were growing up, who loved you . Do you have an answer . Burke thats very difficult to answer who loved me because theres different types of love. Stahl unconditional. I mean. Burke yeah, unconditional. Stahl thats what i mean. Burke ive never. Ive never experienced that. Stahl so youyou have no answer for that question. Burke i have no answer. To this day i have no answer to that. Stahl it was daring bringing real people, none of them trained actors, to tell their own stories on the stage. What happened when the show opened when we come back. I was a doer. Then the chronic, widespread pain slowed me down. My doctor and i agreed that moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. He also prescribed lyrica. Fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. Lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. For some patients, lyrica significantly relieves fibromyalgia pain and improves physical function. With less pain i feel better, and can be more active. Lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. Tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. Or swelling, trouble breathing rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling or blurry vision. 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Its all part of her drive to keep this music alive, and what better way to do that than to bring the young and the old together . We were there when vy invited her over55 crew to a gospel for teens class, for what she called an intergenerational exchange. Higginsen come on, matthew. Brown that old man river, he dont say nothing. Stahl vy wanted to know what the kids heard in Matthew Browns voice. I hear the journey that he lived, coming from segregation coming from racism. I feel all the pain that our people had to endure, just by listening to his voice. And i thank him so much for sharing that with us. Higginsen wow applause stahl she wanted the kids to try to copy the sounds theyd heard. Roberta ross soon i will be done. Sateena turner soon i will be done. laughter ross take your time. Higginsen the older people are passing it on to the Younger Generation so the Younger Generation can pass it on to the next generation. Stahl and this is your mission. Higginsen i dont want this music to die. applause ross im goin home turner im goin home both to live with god. Stahl there sure didnt seem to be any risk of any music dying here, as vys group took the stage to perform alive 55 plus and kickin before a packed house in harlem. Walker vy has a saying the first 50 years are for learning, and the second 50 years are for living. Life just begins when youre in your 50s. Brown Amazing Grace shall its a message that feels a lot like redemption. And thats what comes through in the music, and the real life stories, as when Matthew Brown the 75yearold janitor, tells the audience about his battle with illiteracy. Brown i couldnt read or write. And when i turned 16, i started to drink. And then i was 50. But i had no give up in me i went back to school to learn to read and write. applause stahl he started writing poems, and even entered a poetry contest. Brown i took third place. applause stahl then, two years later, an essay contest. Brown i took first place applause harris no matter what life has thrown at you, no matter what you have done throughout your life, theres always a chance to get it right. Stahl always. Harris and this play its not even a play. This is real people telling real stories who have been through real struggles. And its been a healing process for me. Oh my love, my darling. cheers and applause stahl when the man who spent more than half his life in prison sings about hoping his wife will wait for him, it feels as though the song is his story. Harris are you still mine . I need your love. Stahl but as in so many stories, this one had another twist. Seven years after theo got out of prison, he started using drugs again. He robbed a hotel clerk and ended up in jail. Harris ive never contemplated suicide in my life until that night. I didnt want any human contact, and i certainly didnt want to call my wife. Phyllis harris very early sunday morning, the phone ring. Harris and i said, im in jail. And im saying to myself, shes gonna hang up. Shes gonna leave me. Phyllis harris he got silent. And i said, do you love me . Harris and i started crying. I said, yes, phyllis, i love you. She said, well, ill be there for you. She said, well get through this together. You know i need your love. Phyllis harris then when i said it, im like, what . Im saying to myself, what did i say . Stahl you dont know why you said it . Phyllis harris i dont know. No. laughs stahl but you said it . Phyllis harris but i said it. Stahl she waited eightand ahalf more years. applause walker if i could, id protect you from the sadness in your eyes. Stahl then, a surprise. The woman with the least dramatic story singing about sending her children off to college gets the most emotional response. Walker and if i could, in a time and place where you dont want to be. The song is a parent to a child, wanting the best of everything for that child. I could have written it myself its that real for me. My yesterday wont have to be your way. If i knew. Burke i love all the songs. But that song for me, i sta. She used to rehearse it here. And all the men were crying. All the men. And they used to tease us and say, okay, renees gonna rehearse the song. Bring the klee. Kleenex to the boys. Stahl when we looked backstage during her song, there they were. Burke and im imagining in my mind that its my mother saying that to me. Stahl and when its his turn. Burke maybe you were just too young. Stahl . Matthew burke speaks to his mother, trying to understand why she abandoned him. Burke maybe you were sick. Maybe you thought that what you did was best for both you, and for me. Stahl then he sings to her the mother he had had to name himself. Burke georgia, whoa georgia, the whole day through. Stahl so have you forgiven your mother . Burke id like to believe that ive forgiven her fully. Stahl but youre not sure . Burke theres a lot of things that could have happened. And the only one thing that i hope was not the case is that she said, i dont want this child. Stahl this child . Burke me. Bingham but i know. Stahl after a son mourning the absence of his mother, a mother mourns the loss of her son with the song vy hadnt been sure about. Bingham and i will always love you. Walker you know, ive heard it said that if you lose your spouse youre a widow or a widower. If you lose your parents youre an orphan. But they said, what do you call someone that has to bury their child . What do you call them . We dont have a name for it. Bingham there was a time when i couldnt tell the story to anybody without just bursting into tears. Stahl singing about it, she says, helps. Bingham and i wish you joy and happiness but above all of this, i wish you love. Stahl theres a pause before the song kicks up into a higher key. Higginsen theyre cheering for her. Stahl . If she makes it. Higginsen is she gonna get it . Bingham and i will always love you. Higginsen she nailed it stahl having sung their songs and told their stories this cast of characters in their second half of life comes together for a grand finale. And its hard to avoid the sense that vys drive to keep the music alive, has achieved something more. Bingham the overall point of the show is this its never too late for anything. Im not that sad little lady that i was before and things are gonna be okay. Stahl second chances. Is that the way you see this . Harris how bout seven chances . laughs stahl im told that you tell people youre looking at a miracle. Harris if youre not looking at a miracle, i dont know what a miracle looks like. Brown this is what ive always wanted to do. Stahl you told us that you feel like youre floating. Brown ever since when i auditioned last year. Ive been floating ever since then. Stahl youre still up floating. Brown oh, i havent been down since then. Higginsen yes applause i love being an old man. 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Captioning funded by cbs and ford captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org coyote howls man hey, ochoa. Police drop your weapons drop `em banks how bad you hit, banks . Elizabeth i know you and your son have been through a lot these past few months, mrs. Banks. Your husbands death was a terrible tragedy and i know that you want to see the man responsible face justice. As do i. Carlos ochoa has been apprehended in mexico, and they are willing to extradite him. But they havent. As you know, the Sticking Point has been mexicos standing policy against extraditing any of its citizens to a country with the death penalty. But hes a member of a drug cartel and a murderer. What do they care . Elizabeth hes still a citizen. And they object to another country meting out