Introducing droid turbo by motorola. mac so. What is that . surface its my surface pro 3. Its a tablet and a laptop. But it couldnt have the power of my mac . This has an intel core i5. This does too. Runs office. Full adobe photoshop. And its got a touchscreen. I have a touchscreen too. Hm. Well, this my favorite thing, i can write with a pen. Well, so can i. Wow, ive got a lot of stuff to carry. You are more powerful than you think. Jim for those of you expecting to see 60 minutes youre youre watching the nfl on cbs. The broncos and patriots. Jim nantz fill simms Tracy Wolfson with the patriots in front 43. 60 minutes will be seen in its entirety immediately following this game except on the west coast. The range picking up about ten. Might be enough for the first. Got a player down. Nate irving. Hes a valuable part of this denver defense hes clutching his right knee. Phil you said it. Very good against the pass and the run, energetic plays all out. No. 56. There he is. Jim harris own teammate ran right in to that right knee. Left side of your screen. You know in some ways its surprising that that doesnt happen even more often. Phil most of the time thats how offensive linemen get hurt. Somebody falls in the back of the leg from the other side. Jim its denver line backing core that has gone good part of the way without Danny Trevathan an in sign linebacker. Now here is nate irving going to be helped to the sideline. John fox is out there with him. Wes welker, he was hit in the lower back in the Third Quarter and has not returned. See Demaryius Thomas five catches, but really its been Emmanuel Sanders caught ten for 151. To lead the way for anything. For new england. Revis and patrick chung. Chung who was defending on that fourth down throw to tamme in the end zone that went incomplete. Second one. Vereen, about a foot short of the first. Corey nelson has come in for irving as vereen is stopped by nelson who just came in, and others. Again, this week, thursday night football were going to be in cincinnati. Afc north action, tough team to abeatt home they will be taking on the cleveland browns. Who have all kinds of confidence. Browns today victorious over tampa bay to improve to 53 and bengals defeated jacksonville that is a wild division. Brady on third and one. Estopped short it appears. Phil tried to catch them by surprise. That time they were ready. Fourth and short you got to punt it. You would think. Jim the punting seem, you see slater off to the left he was already coming on to the field. Look down the line here, see they are going to be short and they are going to punt it. They want to come out for a measurement. Then they pushed them back to the sideline. The returner burse out of fresno state. Its a fake. Check it at the last moment. Denver may have sensed it. Now both units run on to the field. Phil you have to wait they shifted plays on the field. You cant quick step it. Flags are flying. I dont think it was set. Referee false start for 76, offense, fiveyard penalty. Jim after all that well see theun pt anyway. Phil hed like to get the first down. But when you substitute players now they run off. Jim what a great moment. 44 players basically running on and off the field. Phil you have to give them chance. Umpire stands there and waits. Thats the rule. Jim burse steps up to the 15 for the fair catch. Mike carey back in new york thats not something that the officials see every day. No, but every once in awhile see a team trying to gain advantage by doing quick substitution the Competition Committee really prevented this by officials stand over the ball give defense chance to match up and then they have to have time to get all the officials in to position also. A lot of things can go wrong on this type of a play. Phil you understand why they have to do that otherwise youd stand over there and two receivers run on, some other guys, defense would never be able to react to all those substitutions. Jim we saw nate irving being carted to the locker room as pass goes to c. J. Anderson for three. Another flag is down with six minutes to play. Phil the one thing that the patriots wanted to do today i think they accomplished it. Referee personal foul. No. 23, defense. 15yard penalty. First down. Phil hard to say some of these things because Peyton Manning, 29 of 48 for 393 but they have been physical with the receivers, thats gotten the patriots off the field i mean broncos off the field couple of times. The other side, the patriots all about throwing the football did not really try to establish their run game against broncos defense. Jim that will put manning at 400 yards for the game. Against new england defense that had not allowed 300 yard passer the last ten games. Second and four. Thats thomas in tight coverage between two defenders and Demaryius Thomas has his 7th catch for 127. That goes for nine. Peyton is 14th career 4040 yard gain thats an nfl record. Came here today not to set records but came here for the w. This result could very possibly send the broncos back this way for, who knows whether it be divisional round would you think the afc championship game in january 18th. If it worked out that way as you see robert craft jonathan craft, Willie Mcginnis in that shot secretary of state kerry is here today. Again there was this big celebration at halftime. They had 17 of the 22 players far all three championship teams, most of them back today thats why mcginnis we saw him. Manning down the field. Incomplete. Hightower and revis were right there battling for it with tamme. Phil so many patriots around the football thats why it was incomplete. They hit each other. Jim you think well see these two again . These two teams . Phil so many things can happen between now and then. Patriots are in good position last year, lost a game late. Gained home field advantage. They came back to haunt them because they had to go out there for the championship game. Jim 4 44 to go third and ten. Here they come. To the sideline. Two broncos over here, sanders and Julius Thomas who ends up making the grab for 15. Phil thrown so many passes down the sidelines today and had success. Look at Brandon Browner hes looking for it but couldnt make the adjustment as fast as Julius Thomas did. Jim only second pass thrown to julius today. Phil that was a good ploy putting Brandon Browner on Julius Thomas. Thats worked pretty well here today. Looking for tamme. Knocks it out of the hands. If you want to beat this Football Team you have to play this type of coverage. Have to live and die with it. You play zone against really good passing offense of the nfl. You will get picked apart. The patriots Peyton Manning say play everybody else. 4 30 to go. That play whistled dead. Referee false start. No. 10. Offense. Fiveyard penalty. Still second down. Jim begot cleveland and cincinnati on nfl network on thursday but sunday regional action. Miami dolphins rolling in to detroit and on a roll. Phil good game. Jim all gets started at noon eastern time with the nfl today. Thats next sunday on cbs. Second and 15. Brought down immediately byour. Third and 11 coming up. Josh mcdaniels offensive coordinator. Not that its going to make a big difference but on that second and goal they had jim awhile ago jacob tamme ran a nice route in the end zone, they didnt connect. Kind of changed what anything did after that because of that stop. Jim fourth and one approaching 3 00. Time out called by the patriots. Phil look at some of the big plays. All these yards they have thrown for, but still competing against these Wide Receivers and hitting them hard. Big play there nobody open. Patrick chung knocking down these passes because boy, theres a lot of contested footballs in the air no doubt. I do believe i think when i look at the Denver Broncos they changed their Football Team to win the super bowl as to how they played in seattle. New england changed their team to beat the Denver Broncos. Jim fourth and one. Fake to anderson, down the field. That will pretty much seal it now f. There was any chance at all to begin with. Phil he looks left. Same play we saw earlier a little fake screen outside. They did it Demaryius Thomas, just overthrows Emmanuel Sanders. Jim broncos today 0 for 4 on fourth down. And only threute o of 11 on third down. Again tonight on cbs begins 60 minutes the governments investigation in to one of the navel seals who shot bin laden. Followed by new episodes of madam secretary the good wife and 57 attempts today for manning. 34 of 57. Two and two. Breaks free from the line, gray out for 13yard run. Phil here we worried about the weather, they had respect for it. Only 109 passing attempts. Jim how about that. Phil we talked about weather, weather because of the wind. It wasnt quite the factor we thought it would be, not as high. I dont care its still cold and windy for this time of the year. Even here. Throw it like both of them did that many times. Pretty close to weather proof i would say. Jim gray again for a couple. Now denver will call a time out. For the patriots, after this game they go in to their bye week. You talk about going in to the bye on a high. Five straight wins after 22 start remember all the naysayers after four games. Phil sure. Jim finally here people saying phil the dynasty or whatever you want to call it up here. Jim come out of the bye play at indianapolis. Look all these winning records coming up. Phil listen, you know, we never know what is going to happen in the nfl but thats pretty tough fivegame stretch. Detroit, tough on defense. Miami the speed playing as well as they are. Indianapolis of course is always dangerous especially at home. Jim gronkowski is near a first. In fact they give it to him on the spot by a yard. In fact you saw the winning records of good teams. These are the quarterbacks theye going to be facing. See the match up on thanksgiving sunday at Lambeau Field brady and rogers. That will be fun to watch. Gronkowski goes over a hundred yards today. Torn aclmcl last year. For no gain. We have a time out called by the broncos, this was the first game of the threegame road stretch at oakland at st. Louis. Home against miami. The next three. Phil i never can look at a schedule for nfl team and go, thats really good. You can see the pitfalls that every team if youre not on top of your game anybody in this leag jim going to be Third Straight regular season game, Third Straight year that manning and the broncos have come in to gillette and lost. Twominute warning. 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Great to have our president on hand here today as well, david and his family, son and daughter and the cbs team with 1 54 to go left to go in this game. Slater is back. Touchback. Phil good fake that punt returner ran to the other side of the field and drew the patriots off the track of the football for a second. Jim denver used its timeouts even though this game and outcome seems to be a mere formality. They have kept the starters out there, i see Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders and no. 18 as well. Phil i would say protect yourself. You get in the situation like this nothing to gain on the offensive side. Talking about experienced teams thats what you do. Jim run it to anderson. I take it gronkowski one of the great characters in the game. In the last five weeks it has just suddenly gone back to the gronkowski we knew in 2010 and 11. Phil listen, you know, not only what he does on the field but you know hisnality his infectious so you can madge in what hes like not locker room when he feels good. On the practice field the energy he brings. Of course what we see here on game day. Jim the running play picks up a first down. Only time ive ever seen gronkowski kind of down in the dumps outside of the times when he was injured one time in production meeting he looked at him he loves to pump iron, get all built up. You mentioned he looked like maybe lost a little weight. Phil just crushed him. You keep telling the story because it was you. Jim i dont think so. Phil i know better. I know guys like this you never say, hey, did you lose weight . Because what . Jim he was in the tank the rest of the meeting. Phil honestly it did. It put him got down because you said that. Did you hear what i said . Jim left the production meeting for the weight room to do bench pressing for an hour. Phil its worked. Jim the two quarterbacks got all the billing coming in. They threw for 771 yards between them and six touchdowns. Brady with four touchdown passes as new england took control of this game in the Second Quarter. Edelman had very big time, caught a touchdown and returned a punt for a touchdown in less than two minutes on the clock. Taking that Second Quarter 240 to the patriots. They go on to win it 4321. To win for the fifth straight time. The 14th straight time at home. The 34th straight time at home in the regular season against afc opponent. Tonight on cbs 60 minutes madam secretary and the good wife. Happy birthday, phil. Youve been youre watching the nfl on cbs. [ male announcer ] great rates for great rides. Geico motorcycle see how much you could save. You will fly southwest. You will fly southwest. You will go to southwest. Com and book a flight. Is it working . How bout now . Now . We thought our cable internet was fast. 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Captioning funded by cbs and ford ward there are hundreds of citizens from the United Kingdom fighting with isis in syria and iraq, maybe, in part, due to this man, anjem choudary. Do you believe there will be more attacks in the west . Yes, i believe its inevitable. Ward if you believe that would you ever use your role as a british citizen, and as a muslim, to actively dissuade people from launching attacks here in the uk, in the u. S. , in the west . You know, im not in the game of condemnation or condoning. Ward its really just a yes orno question. Well, i dont want to answer you with a yes or no answer. Thats what i served my country for. Pelley he is one of the navy seals who killed bin laden, but now hes under investigation by the u. S. Government, and under fire from his fellow seals for writing about the mission. How many former secretaries of defense have written books . How many former generals have written books . Im a nobody, right . 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We sought out a man at the heart of that movement, a british preacher who sees no border between the streets of london and the frontlines of the middle east. Talking to him and his followers gives you a window into a world you may find disturbing and difficult to understand. There are at least 500 u. K. Citizens fighting in syria and iraq. Every week, according to british police, another five recruits join the fight. British jihadis have been on the front lines with isis from the very beginning. In the groups recent videos showing the executions of western hostages, the masked man holding the knife speaks with a london accent. Well only drag you and your people into another bloody and unwinnable war. Ward the spike in western fighters may be, in part, due to this man, anjem choudary, a britishborn lawyer turned islamic preacher who lives in london and has for years been asserting his democratic right to call for an end to democracy. Anjem choudary down, down democracy. I believe that islam is superior and will not be surpassed. So i believe that the law of god is much superior to manmade law. Ward so, in that sense, you believe that islam and democracy are mutually exclusive, that they cant exist sidebyside choudary allah is the only one to legislate. So, obviously, in that sense its completely diametrically opposed. You cannot have man legislating and playing god in parliament, and at the same time believe that allah is the only legislator. Ward you have the freedom to come here today. You have the freedom to speak on television, to worship whichever god you please. But youre advocating a system that essentially would take away all of those freedoms. Choudary allah created my tongue to speak. I dont have freedom to come here, because allah created my feet to walk. So i walk, and i speak, and i look, and i hear, according to what god says. Ward choudary has been accused of inspiring hundreds of muslims from across the west to join isis. We went to a meeting he held in an east london basement. On the wall was a large picture of Buckingham Palace turned into a mosque. He described the newly formed Islamic State in iraq and syria as a kind of utopia. Talking about jihad, he sounded at times like a coach giving a pep talk before the big game. Choudary when the heavens are with you, when the earth is with you, when the sea is with you, when the wind is with you whos going to defeat you after that . nobody. Ward choudary has fronted a series of organizations that have been banned by the British Government under the countrys antiterror laws, but he denies that he actively recruits fighters. Choudary you know, the. The messenger mohammed, he said, fight them with your wealth with your body, with your tongue. So, im engaged here, if you like, in a verbal jihad. Ward but what youre actually doing, essentially, is inspiring young men to go and fight in these countries, while you stay here and enjoy a comfortable life in the United Kingdom. Choudary no, i mean, this is. This is a kind of a. The rhetoric that the western media come out with. But, i mean, there are no examples of anyone, in fact, who is in any of the battlefronts, who actually say, well, actually, mr. Choudary asked me to come here, or he bought my ticket, you know if. If it were the case. Ward they wouldnt say that you bought their ticket. Choudary well, no, if it were the case. Ward . But they might say that you inspired them with your message. Choudary there. There was a report out recently which said that i. I inspired 500 people, in fact, to carry out operations here and abroad. And if that were really the case, dont you think that id be arrested and ill be sitting in prison . Ward so, if a young man, one of your students, comes to you and says, should i go and fight in syria or iraq, what would you tell them . Choudary well, they havent come to me. And if they come to me, ill think about a suitable response, but i. Im engaged. Ward what would you tell them . Ward its a hypothetical question. Choudary i dont deal with hypotheticals. Choudary because its a. Ward it really should be an easy question. Choudary i. I like. I like to deal with reality. If that happens, you can have another interview with me and ill deal with it. Ward but one week after our interview, choudary was arrested on suspicion of being a member of a proscribed or banned organization, and encouraging terrorism. Also rounded up in the raids was one of his young followers, abu rumaysah. Abu rumaysah we want islam. We want islam to dominate the world. Ward talking to rumaysah you come face to face with a version of islam that wipes out every other aspect of a persons identity. He is a convert from hinduism, but his new beliefs bar even the most basic human feelings towards his mother and other family members who didnt convert. Rumaysah i dont love them as nonmuslims, but i desire for them to become muslim and embrace islam. Ward but you love her as your mother. Rumaysah shes my mother and she has rights over me, so i have to take care of her, i have to look after her. I have to make sure that, you know, shes protected and secure, so i. I fulfill my obligations like that. Ward but do you feel love for her . Rumaysah its not allowed for me to love nonmuslims, so thats something that is a matter of faith. Ward so, do you feel that you are british . Rumaysah i identify myself as a muslim. If i. If i was born in a stable, you know, im not going to be a horse. If im was born in nazi germany, im not going to be a nazi. I mean, this is just an island i was born in. Ward rumaysah and choudary both live in east london, which is home to one of the largest muslim populations in the u. K. In one part of town, rumaysah and his associates have set up socalled sharia patrols, to go out and discourage behavior that they deem unislamic. On this night, they stopped to talk to a couple of nonmuslim men who were in a park drinking beer, which is forbidden under islam. So, were just reminding, anyway, reminding the community about staying safe, and in. Okay. This area, theres a lot of gambling that goes on. Okay. A lot of alcohol drinking and it leads to a lot of problems. So we advise you and we advise anyone we see to stay away from these things. Ward but the patrols are not always so friendly. Online clips give a very different picture. A woman in a short skirt is abused. We dont respect people who disobey god. But this is great britain. Its not so great britain. Ward a man the patrol thinks is gay is insulted. Get out of here. Youre dirty, mate. Youre gay. Ward walking through london with rumaysah, you experience an alternate reality where there is no compromise and all conversations are onesided. Rumaysah ultimately, i want to see every single woman in this country covered from head to toe. I want to the see the hand of the thief cut. I want to see adulterers stoned to death. I want to see sharia law in europe. And i want to see it in america, as well. I believe our patrols are a means to an end. Ward the only thing i would say is that, in america and in the United Kingdom, we have a system, democracy. Rumaysah a backwards one. Ward but its a system. Rumaysah a barbaric one. Ward . That allows the people to choose what they want and allows people freedom. Rumaysah so why cant i choose sharia . When in rome, overthrow caesar and commit to sharia. Ward act. In your home you can do whatever you want. Rumaysah but what about in the public . Why cant i tell you to cover up . Am i free to say that . Ward because it would be outrageous. Of course, youre not. Rumaysah so wheres my freedom . Wheres my freedom . Ward you can say it to me, but you. Rumaysah okay, so cover up. Wear the hijab. Ward thats absurd the thought of choudarys supporters taking the law into their own hands is deeply frightening to most british people. This is a group that believes the west is at war with islam, and that the invasions of iraq and afghanistan justify any kind of violence in response. The most shocking example of that logic was the gruesome and very public murder of british soldier lee rigby on a london street last year. We have killed this man today because muslims are dying daily by british soldiers. Ward on that day, the man wielding the knife was a known associate of choudary. Choudary has refused to condemn rigbys murder, nor will he criticize isis for the beheading of american journalist james foley and other western hostages. Choudary you know, i dont know the details about james foley, but. Ward i know the details. Let me educate you, because he was a friend of mine. Choudary i dont believe you. Im sorry, i dont believe you. Ward you dont believe me that james foley was a journalist . Choudary i dont believe. No, no, i dont believe any western journalists, quite frankly. I believe youre liars until proven otherwise. But let me tell you something the perspective of the muslims of journalists, whether that be james foley and others, is that they are the propaganda for the western regimes. Ward have you formed an opinion for yourself . Choudary i form my opinion on the basis of what the muslims say, not on the basis of what you say. Ward im sensing a double standard here, because essentially, youre very quick to condemn acts of violence by the west, but you refuse to condemn any act of violence by your fellow muslims. Choudary no, i believe that the. Theres a difference between the oppressor and oppressed. Ward britains authorities have struggled with how to handle extremists like choudary and his followers. He has been arrested multiple times, but never convicted of anything more than staging an illegal demonstration. And now, the police face a new challenge that is nearly impossible to manage the spread of islamic extremism through slickly produced online propaganda films from real fighters in real battlefields. We will chop off the heads of the americans, chop off the heads of the french, chop off the heads of whoever you may bring. Ward those videos have proven wildly attractive to thousands of young people who feel alienated from the western societies they live in. For them, jihad offers the promise of power and glory. Sir peter fahy is in charge of a Government Program called prevent, set up to combat the radicalization of british muslims. Peter fahy i think the big concern about the Current Situation is just a huge amount of material which is available on social media, in the various publications, and the various videos that i think a lot of us are. Are struggling to come to terms with and get a good picture of. Ward so, in a sense, its less about preachers radicalizing young men, and its more young fighters radicalizing other young fighters from the battlefield using social media as their recruitment platform. Fahy i think youre absolutely right. That is my concern is that what has changed, again, over recent months is that you have got local people identifiable as real people. Youve got, you know, a person whos identifiably british whos gone out there, and is absolutely using social media to be able to communicate directly into your son or daughters bedroom and to encourage them to come out. And i think that is extremely worrying as a new development. As i say, i think a lot of families and a lot of parents, including obviously muslim parents, are very concerned about that. Ward bedroom jihad, theyre calling it. Fahy absolutely. Its almost that personal contact which is the worrying aspect. But, you know, we. We need to be aware of all different forms of brainwashing and radicalization. Ward if their parents cant stop it, what can you do to stop it . Fahy well, all we can do is raise awareness, but youre absolutely right. And we constantly agonize about whether this is a job for the police or not. Ward britains mainstreamre speaking out against isis and have discouraged young men in their communities from joining the fight. But the ongoing u. S. Led military campaign in syria and iraq has stoked anger and raised fears of terrorist retaliation attacks in the west. Do you believe that there will be more attacks in the west . Choudary yes. I believe its inevitable. Ward if you believe that would you ever use your role as a british citizen, and as a muslim, to actively dissuade people from launching attacks here in the u. K. , in the u. S. , in the west . Choudary well, i think we need to deal with the root causes. I think its. Its really absurd to say, well, why shouldnt people react . The fact is if we dont deal with the root cause, which is the occupation of the muslim land, which is the torture of muslims, which is the Foreign Policy of governments like britain and america, that you will never be able to stop people. Ward so, just so i understand, you will continue to refuse to condemn acts of terror . Choudary well, as i say, you know, im not in the game of condemnation or condoning. Ward its really just a yes orno question. Choudary well, i dont want to answer you with a yes or no answer. Ward but choudary, who is out on bail, will have to give answers when he reports to police in january. 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He told us that he wrote the book to set the record straight, and planned to donate most of the profits to charities benefiting families of fallen navy seals. He kept his real name secret expecting to disappear back into the shadows. But thats not how it worked out. This is the story of how one of the men who shot Osama Bin Laden came under fire from his fellow seals and his own government and what hed like to say now to make amends. You know, i wonder how you compare the stress of the last two years to the kind of work you did as a seal. Mark owen i would go back overseas today and deal with fighting isis face to face rather than deal with the last two years again. Pelley the last two years were something that mark owen never trained for. Hes been investigated by the government, excommunicated by the seal leadership, and inundated with legal bills, all for writing the first eyewitness account of the bin laden raid, and for being the first seal to talk about it publicly in our interview in 2012. Owen and then, all of a sudden, we banked hard 90 degrees, and it was very apparent something was wrong. Pelley what do you say to people who believe fervently that you do secret operations for the government, and they stay secret until you die . You dont say anything about them. Owen how many former secretaries of defense have written books . How many former generals have written books . How many former socoms, special operations commanders, have written books . Im a nobody, right . Im a senior enlisted guy that did 13 straight deployments nothing else, nothing. Ive sacrificed everything in my life to continue raising my hand, volunteering right next to my brothers to continue to go back overseas and do what we could to help, so its tough. Pelley so, if its fair for the generals, it should be fair for the enlisted men, too . Owen absolutely. Pelley those 13 deployments he mentioned include many to afghanistan and iraq, plus the bin laden raid and the Famous Mission that freed captain richard phillips, held hostage by somali pirates in 2009. In both of our interviews, we disguised his appearance and his voice for his safety. In 2012, he walked us through the assault on bin ladens house. Owen told us he was in line right behind the seal who shot bin laden first. Owen myself and the next assaulter in, we both engaged him several more times, and then rolled off and then continued clearing the room. Pelley when you say you engaged him, what do you mean . Owen fired. Pelley you shot him. Owen yeah. Pelley the seals were faceless heroes. Thats owen with the president and Vice President. Here he is with the elder george bush, whos holding a copy of owens book, and with the younger president bush. But even amid the celebrating, over at the pentagon, there was growing anger because owen had skipped a step that is considered mandatory. He didnt clear the book with government censors. Defense secretary leon panetta fired back on cbs this morning. Two days after your first interview ran on 60 minutes, the secretary of defense came on cbs news and said that your book tells our enemies essentially how we operate and what we do to go after them, and when you do that, you tip them off. Leon panetta how the hell can we run sensitive operations here that go after enemies if people are allowed to do that . Pelley did you do that . Owen did i disclose anything that wouldve put the guys in harms way . Thats. Thats absolutely not what i intended to do. These are my brothers that i served beside for years. And a lot of them continue to serve. These are guys i. I had, you know, lived and died next to. These are not guys that i would want to sacrifice their security for any reason. Pelley one of the things you said in that book was, if youre looking for secrets, you wont find them here. Owen i tried my best, yes, sir. Pelley but now, his lawyer tells us owen is the target of a criminal investigation under the espionage act, looking into whether he gave away valuable secrets. No charges have been filed, but eight weeks ago, he was questioned for ten hours about the book and our interview. Mark owen is a member of the team that killed Osama Bin Laden, and now he faces criminal investigation. How does that happen . Bob