Can we shake hands . Sure. Pelley no, really . Yeah. Pelley like, come right over here. Yes, come over here. Pelley okay. Oh, my goodness as you send us your bombs, we will send you ours. Logan by the time of his death, Anwar Alawlaki was at the top of the u. S. Terrorist kill list. A jihad against america is binding upon myself, just as it is binding on every other able muslim. Logan he had become the operational leader of al qaeda in yemen and was in the midst of planning more attacks. Morten storm was one of the few people awlaki trusted. What he didnt know was that storm had become a double agent. Cooper judd apatow has become one of the most successful names in film comedy today. When anything happens to me thats awful, im just so happy that i can put it in a movie. Cooper apatow is highly sought after as a producer on other peoples movies, like bridesmaids. Party cooper and he worked on anchorman, written by will farrell and adam mckay. Has judd apatow hurt people . Oh, sure. laughter youre damn right he has. Judd apatow is a monster. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Im steve kroft. Im leslie stahl. Im morley safer. Im lara logan. Im anderson cooper. Im scott pelley. Those stories tonight on 60 minutes. [ male announcer ] this holiday at sprint, get 100 off any 4g lte tablet when you buy any smartphone. And get a tablet data plan starting at just 10 mo. No sharing required. Hurry into a sprint store or visit sprint. Com tabletoffer today. Military families face, we understand. At usaa, we know military life is different. Weve been there. Thats why every bit of Financial Advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad dad [ applause ] [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. Usaa brings advice. Call or visit us online. Were ready to help. You know it can be hard to lbreathe, and how that feels. E, copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. 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And that fact led the department of defense to start a Crash Program to help veterans and civilians by creating an artificial arm and hand that are amazingly human. But thats not the breakthrough. We dont use that word very often, because its overused. But when you see how they have connected this robotic limb to a human brain, youll understand why we made the exception. To take this ultimate step, they had to find a person willing to have brain surgery to explore new frontiers of what it is to be human. That person would have to be an explorer with desperate need, remarkable courage, and maybe most of all, a mind that is game. The person they chose is Jan Scheuermann, a pittsburgh mother of two and writer, with a mind nimble enough to match wits on the wheel of fortune in 1995. Jan scheuermann im going to solve the puzzle. Too cute for words. Yes cheers and applause pelley when her mind triumphed, her brain sent signals of delight to every muscle in her body. But a year after this moment, those brain signals were being cut off. Scheuermann one day, i had trouble in the evening. I was making a lot of trips in and out of the car, it felt like my legs were dragging behind me. Pelley within two years, a genetic disease called spino cerebellar degeneration broke the connection between brain and body. Now, at age 53, Jan Scheuermann can move only the muscles in her face and a few in her neck. Shes dependent on a caregiver for nearly all of her daily needs. 52 across. Pelley . And her mother to help her solve the puzzles she loves. Healed . Scheuermann oh, oh, youre good. Pelley at the same time Jan Scheuermann was putting her mind to a new life, a neuroscientist, just across town at the university of pittsburgh, was imagining how people like jan might be restored. Andy schwartz, on the right, is working on an Ambitious Defense Department project called revolutionizing prosthetics. Four years ago, we visited his lab, and schwartz showed us how he implanted tiny sensors like this one into the brains of monkeys, and then wired them to a crude robotic arm. Schwartz told us that, when the monkey thinks about moving his own arm, his brain cells, or neurons, fire off electrical signals. The sensor in his brain can pick up these signals and send them to the robot. So hes operating the arm in three dimensions up, down, forward and back . Andy schwartz as well as the gripper. Pelley what youre telling me is that the monkey is operating this arm with nothing but his thoughts . Schwartz absolutely. Pelley what are the chances that a human being would be able to do this same thing . Schwartz oh, we think a human being could do much better. Pelley that conversation was in 2008. And since then, the 150 million revolutionizing Prosthetics Program has reached farther than most thought possible. Geoffrey ling awesome. Pelley dr. Geoffrey ling, a retired army colonel and neurologist, is in charge. After seeing the wounded on several tours in iraq and afghanistan, he told his team that he wanted a breakthrough within five years. Did any of them say, look, colonel, were not sure we can do this. Ling oh, absolutely. They. They thought we were crazy. But thats quite all right, because i think its in our insanity that things happen. Pelley that madness led to genius in labs all across the country. At the applied Physics Laboratory at Johns Hopkins university in maryland, Michael Mcloughlin led the multimillion dollar engineering of what has become the most sophisticated hand and arm ever developed. Its the same size and weight of an average mans arm and hand, and everything is inside, including the computers and the batteries. Is there anything that your natural arm and hand can do that the mechanical hand cant . Michael mcloughlin well, i can do this. laughs pelley okay. Theres that. Mcloughlin we cant do that. But other than that, virtually everything your natural hand can do, this prosthetic is able to do. Same strength, too. Pelley same strength . Mcloughlin same strength. So we can curl 45 to 50 pounds with the arm. Pelley theyve thought of a lot of ways to use it. When set on wheels, it can bring a human touch where no human can go. In this demonstration, we wore a visor that showed us the video feed from the robot. These gloves moved the robotic hands. And we practiced pulling a wire out of a bomb. Come on, give me that pinch. Awesome. But the holy grail in the project was finding a way to connect the robot directly to the brain. Scheuermann who wouldnt want to do this . When they told me. I heard about the study, i said, oh, absolutely. I. I couldnt not do this. Pelley last february, Jan Scheuermann put herself on the line for a more sophisticated version of the surgery that they had done earlier in the monkeys. Theres a brain surgery involved. Its experimental. Why were you so excited about it . Scheuermann ive always believed theres a purpose to my illness. I didnt think i would ever find out what it was in my lifetime, and here came this study where they needed me. You know, they couldnt just pick any tom, dick or harry off the street. And in a few years, the quadriplegics and the amputees this is just going to help. The department of defense is funding some of this for the vets. To be of use to them and service to them, what an honor. Elizabeth tylerkabara what im going to do right now is im just going to make some marks here in your hair. Pelley the procedure was done by university of pittsburgh neurosurgeon Elizabeth Tyler kabara, who showed us that the area that controls hand and arm movement is accessible right on the surface of the brain. What are the dangers . Tylerkabara we worry about if we were to accidentally tear a blood vessel when we were putting them in, that we could cause a blood clot that would collect on the surface of the brain. Probably the thing we worry about the most is the possibility of infection. Pelley i mean, you do have a connection through the skull to the outside world . Tylerkabara absolutely. May i have some irrigations . Pelley during the sixhour surgery, two sensor arrays, each the size of a pea, were placed on the surface of jans brain. Woo hoo pelley then, they were wired to two computer connections called pedestals, the gateways to jans thoughts. You know, people are going to look at those pedestals in your skull, and theyre going to think, that has to hurt. Is it painful . Has it been difficult in any way . Scheuermann for a few hours after i woke up, i had the worst case of buyers remorse. I was thinking, oh, my god, i had brain surgery. Why didnt anyone stop me . Why didnt they say, jan, youre crazy. But as soon as the headache went away, that kind of talk went away, too. Pelley five months after the whether she would be able to control the robotic arm with nothing but her thoughts. They plugged her brain into the computer and this is what we saw. Scheuermann i can move it up. And straight down. And left and right, and diagonally. I can close it. And open it. And i can go forward and back. Pelley that is just the most astounding thing ive ever seen. Can we shake hands . Scheuermann sure. Pelley no, really . Scheuermann yeah. Pelley like, come right over here . Scheuermann yes, you come over there. Pelley okay. Scheuermann let me grasp your hand there. There we go. Pelley oh, my goodness. Scheuermann move it up and down a little. Pelley wow. Scheuermann and i can do a fist bump, if youd like. Pelley thats amazing. What are you doing, jan . Whats going on in your mind as youre moving this arm around . What are you thinking . Scheuermann okay, the best way to explain it is, raise your arm. Now, what did you think about when you did that . Pelley well, not much. I do it all the time. Scheuermann exactly. Its automatic. Pelley is that hard work . Are you having to concentrate . Scheuermann it. No, it was hard work getting there. I struggled greatly to go up and down at the beginning. Now, up and down is so easy, i dont even think about it. Side to side, dont even think about it. Pelley just like your arms used to . Scheuermann yes. Pelley we asked dr. Ling, the program manager, where all of this is headed. Ling im old enough to have watched Neil Armstrong take that step on the moon. And. And to watch jan do that, i had the same tingles. Because i realized that we have now stepped over a great threshold into what is possible, and very importantly, what patients can now expect in terms of restoration. This is a very important part not rehab, but restoration of function. Pelley i wonder what your experience with jan has taught you about the brain and the brains ability to adapt to new circumstances. Ling i think its taught me something really fundamental, and that is we are tool users. And our arms and legs are just tools for our brain. And so, when we give another tool in jans case, a robot arm she will adapt to that tool to do the things that she wants to do. Pelley of course, many who could use a robot arm are not paralyzed like jan; theyre amputees. And for them, the project has found a way to connect the arm without brain surgery. 57yearold Johnny Matheny lost his arm to cancer. Dr. Albert chi, from Johns Hopkins hospital, found the nerves that used to go to johnnys hand and moved them to healthy muscles in his remaining limb. Albert chi now, elbow extension. Pelley sensors on his skin pick up the brains signals from the nerves and use those signals to control the robotic arm. Johnny matheny come here, i want to see you. Pelley so even though the limb is missing, the brain still sends the signals as if the limb was still there . Chi correct. Pelley johnny, it feels in. In your mind like your hand is. Is there again . Chi yes. Pelley as if your arm had never been lost . Matheny correct. Pelley unlike jan, the connection for johnny runs both ways. Sensors in the fingers send signals back so he can feel what hes touching. Okay, im holding the object and you can close on it. To see how well, we put him to the test. Hard or soft . Matheny soft. Pelley correct. Very good. Now, lets try again. Im holding the object. Hard or soft . Matheny soft. Pelley yep. Quite right. All right. He got it right every time. Hard or soft . Matheny hard. Pelley amazing. The next person to have jans surgery will have additional sensors placed in the brain to receive the sensation of touch. Andy schwartz believes that will help with some of the things that jan has trouble with. For example, sometimes, when she looks right at an object, she cant grab it. Schwartz okay, im going to take the cone away. Just go ahead and close it. Scheuermann oh, sure, no problem. Schwartz so as soon as i take the cone away, there is no problem. But as soon as i put the cone there, she cant do it. Pelley why is still a mystery. The progress is coming rapidly. They are working on a wireless version of the implant to eliminate the connection in the skull. And dr. Geoffrey ling told us that the Lab Experiments will one day enter the real world. Ling and were going to not stop at just arms and hands. I think that its going to open the way for things like sight and sound. And. And my dream, i dream that well be able to take this into all sorts of patients patients with stroke, patients with cerebral palsy, and the elderly. Scheuermann i think when other quadriplegics see what im doing with the arm, theyre all going to say, oh, wow i wish i could do that now, this is the way i like to eat cookies. Awesome. Thank you so much. applause i just feel very honored to be the one who gets to do it. Go to 60minutesovertime. Com to see the bomb defusing robot known as robosally in action. But we can still help you see your big picture. With the fidelity guided portfolio summary, you choose which accounts to track and use fidelitys analytics to spot trends, gain insights, and figure out what you want to do next. All in one place. Im Meredith Stoddard and i helped create the fidelity guided portfolio summary. Its one more innovative reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. Now get 200 free trades when you open an account. [ female announcer ] if you have rheumatoid arthritis, can you start the day the way you want . Can orencia help . [ woman ] i wanted to get up when i was ready, not my joints. 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Drone operated by the cia unleashed a hellfire missile killing one of the most wanted terrorists in the world, Anwar Alawlaki. The americanborn cleric had been waging holy war against his own country. Because he was a u. S. Citizen, it was one of the most controversial drone strikes in the campaign against al qaeda. To this day, the question of how the cia zeroed in on awlaki in that distant desert land remains a mystery. Some of that will be answered tonight, and youll learn how an unlikely danish spy named morten storm managed to get inside awlakis world and become one of his most trusted friends. And how, storm says, he helped lead that fatal missile to its target. Anwar alawlaki as you send us your bombs, we will send you ours. Logan by the time of his death, Anwar Alawlaki was at the top of the u. S. Terrorist kill list. The muslim cleric had become notorious for his fiery internet sermons that incited attacks against america. Awlaki jihad against america is binding upon myself, just as it is binding on every other able muslim. Logan awlaki had plotted with the underwear bomber, umar abdulmutallab, and he inspired nidal hasans shooting rampage at fort hood, texas, that left 13 dead. He had become the operational leader of al qaeda in yemen and was in the midst of planning more attacks. Morten storm was one of the few people awlaki trusted. What he didnt know was that storm had become a double agent working for danish intelligence and their partners, the cia, who wanted awlaki dead. Morten storm at that moment now, anwar needed to die by any means. He needed to be stopped. That was. Logan even though he was your friend . Storm he. He was not my friend. He was a person i needed to get close to to stop his evil in him. Logan how dangerous do you think he was . Storm very dangerous. Logan the two first met in yemen in 2006 when storm, a muslim convert from denmark, was as radical as awlaki. What did you think of him the first time you met him . Storm very kind person. You know, his character was. How. What do you call it, a joyful character. Logan did you two get on well from the beginning . Storm from the very first minutes. Logan and so you became friends . Storm yes. I liked him because of his views of jihad, because that was my views, as well. Logan storms path to extremism began in prison when he converted to islam at 21, a troubled kid with a violent past who had never found his place in the sleepy danish town where he grew up. What would people have said about you at that time . How would they have described you . Storm my reputation as a young teenager, i. I could punch very hard. I used to knock out a fullgrown man with one punch. So, thats. And i was known for that. Logan he says islam offered forgiveness and comfort in ritual, a refuge for a young man who feared his life was going nowhere. Storm i felt good about it, praying, as if i was cleaned. My sins had left me. Logan it freed you from your past. Storm it did, yeah, and thats what i needed. Logan he moved to yemen, learned arabic, took an arabic name, murad, and a muslim wife, with whom he had three children. By 9 11, he was immersed in radical islam and even named his son after Osama Bin Laden. Why would you do that . Storm because he was born in. Just after 9 11, and Osama Bin Laden was a hero. He was a muslim soldier who stood up against the big satan of america. Logan you know, Many Americans listening to that would be offended . Storm well, im telling the truth. Logan but over the years, storm began to have doubts about his faith. As dramatic as his original conversion was, so was his break with islam. This is how he explains it storm i typed on my keyboard, on my laptop, contradictions in the koran. Thats the first time i ever done that. What i believed in for those ten years suddenly was just ripped away from me. I discovered that it was all fake. I made a decision not to be muslim. Logan you cant go from believing all of this for ten years to instantly not believing any of it, right . Storm you know. You know what . It can happen. That can actually happen. It was a roller coaster, a emotional roller coaster. Logan because you were giving up everything . Storm yes, of course. Logan so you made a decision. You called danish intelligence. Storm i called danish intelligence. Logan without saying why, storm arranged to meet danish agents at a hotel in copenhagen. He was well known to them as a hardcore extremist and theyd been tracking him for years. Storm so they say, oh, well, murad they say because that was my muslim name what would you like to eat . Would you like to have fish or vegetarian food . So i say, no. I say, i want something with bacon, pork, i said, and i want a beer. laughter so. And they were, like, in disbelief looking at each other. I say, i am no longer muslim and i want to fight these terrorists. Logan storm now transformed into a double agent. He says one of the most important targets he was given by the cia was his old friend, awlaki, an assignment that took him deep into the yemeni desert to meet the al qaeda leader. Storm two guys came out with a. K. S. I was like bleep , if they know anything about me, im dead now. Logan inside, storm says awlaki was sitting in the midst of some 30 heavily armed mujahedeen, or holy warriors. Storm well, he stood up. He say, asalaam aleykem achi, like, peace be upon you, my brother, he say. And he walked up. He gave me a hug. And i was, like, whew. laughs logan at that meeting, storm told us, awlaki drew him into his small circle of confidantes and gave him the Encryption Keys to his secure communications network, which he showed us. Using couriers, they would now send each other flash drives with encrypted emails, photos and videos. Awlaki asked storm to recruit followers and raise money for him, and he wanted something else. Storm he asked me if i knew any sisters who might be interesting in marrying him. Logan and you, of course, said . Storm yeah. laughter logan storm says the cia saw awlakis request for a bride as an opening, a way to get closer to the elusive terrorist. And they eagerly signed on to a plan to find awlaki a new wife. Storm went on facebook, of all places, and tried to connect with awlaki supporters. Storm i had no one except for a woman contacting me, saying, do you know sheik anwar . I said, yeah. And then, that was aminah. Logan aminah, a 32yearold croatian whose real name is irena horak, had recently converted to islam. She wrote to storm that she wanted to marry awlaki. To prove to her that he really knew the al qaeda leader, storm had awlaki send him this video, which he gave to us. Awlaki this recording is done specifically for sister aminah at her request, and the brother who is carrying this recording is a trustworthy brother. Logan when he says, the brother who is carrying this video is a trustworthy brother, thats you . Storm thats me. Logan awlaki, who already had two wives, wanted to see his bride to be. Awlaki if you could also do a recorded message and send it over, that would be great. Logan storm made two videos of aminah, which have never been broadcast before. Here she is in the first. Aminah brother, its me aminah. I just taped this just to see. That you can see how i look. Logan and then this, a second, more revealing video of her. Aminah brother, this is me without the head scarf so you can see my hair, i described it to you before. So now you see me without it, and i hope you will be pleased with it. Logan when we looked into aminahs past, we could find nothing to explain why this seemingly ordinary woman, who was once a champion runner and an advocate for the disabled, suddenly abandoned everything she knew and committed her life to a terrorist leader. By june 2010, she was living in yemen, in the arms of her new husband, Anwar Alawlaki. Why was the cia in favor of you arranging this marriage . Storm she would be a live bait to anwar without a doubt. Logan storm says the cia hoped aminah would lead them right to awlaki, and they rewarded him with a bonus, 250,000. He was so excited, he took this photograph of the briefcase packed with 100 bills. But once aminah got to yemen, storm believes the cia lost track of her and awlaki. After hed been missing for months, cia. U. S. Intelligence had no idea where he was . Storm no. Logan and you found him in four weeks . Storm thats correct. Logan awlaki, who still had no idea storm had turned against him, sent a courier to him with a shopping list. It included bombmaking supplies. Storm told us he left some of the harmless items on the list with a middleman and promised to deliver the rest later. He then arranged with awlaki for a pickup by a courier, and reported back to his handlers in denmark. Storm i didnt think any more about that. Logan until . Storm until, well, i read that anwar was killed. And. And i read how they tracked him down with that was my mission. Logan they tracked him down through a courier . Storm yeah. Logan storm read a newspaper report that quoted unnamed u. S. Intelligence officials as saying they tracked awlaki through a young courier, a description that matched the courier his middleman said had picked up the items he left for awlaki. Is there any doubt in your mind at all that it was your mission. Storm no. Logan . That led to awlakis death . Storm no. There is no doubt. Logan what did you think when you heard that Anwar Al Awlaki was dead . Storm it was a lot of joyment, i say, because its good he died, anyway. It is good. Logan he says his joy turned to anger when he realized the cia was not going to give him any credit, or reward money, for helping to kill awlaki. Instead, he learned from his danish spy masters that the cia denied it was his intelligence that led to the hit, and claimed they had a parallel operation. Furious, he went to confront his cia handler at a Seaside Hotel in denmark. In the hotel lobby, moments before the meeting, storm switched on his phones video recorder and slipped it into his pocket. He gave us that recording, and you can hear storm challenging the man he claims is a cia officer, known to him as michael. Storm the americans have failed in every single attempt to arrest or kill anwar awlaki, except when we went in. We just want gratitude from your government logan the american calmly tried to reassure him. Michael this whole thing was a team effort of which you played the highest role, okay. And it is because of that there are a lot of people in my government. Storm obama laughs michael i am talking about the president of the United States, okay . Storm yeah. Michael he knows you. The president of the United States doesnt know who i am, but he knows about your work. Storm yeah. Michael okay . And for that, we are thankful. Logan morten storm wasnt satisfied, and it was after that meeting that he decided to go public, which is why he spoke to us. We asked the cia and danish intelligence for comment, but they both declined. By the time we met storm at a remote location in the danish countryside last month, awlakis followers had vowed revenge. So youre going to spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder . Storm yeah. If i try to hide every day and be scared, they have won. Logan storm is working on a new identity for himself and his family. So what are you going to do . Storm i take one day at a time. Logan is this what your life will be now . Storm its going to be. If its going to be short or long, i dont know. But i dont regret anything. Lets give thanks for an idea. A grand idea called america. The idea that if you work hard, if you have a dream, if you work with your neighbors. You can do most anything. This led to other ideas like liberty and rock n roll. To free markets, free enterprise, and free refills. It put a man on the moon and a phone in your pocket. Our countrys gone through a lot over the centuries and a half. But this idea isnt fragile. When times get tough, it rallies us as one. Every day, more people believe in the american idea and when they do, the dream comes true. Were grateful to be a part of it. Cmon, michael get in the game [ male announcer ] dont have the hops for hoops with your buddies . Lost your appetite for romance . And your mood is on its way down. You might not just be getting older. You might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. Millions of men, fortyfive or older, may have low t. So talk to your doctor about low t. Hey, michael [ male announcer ] and step out of the shadows. Hi how are you . [ male announcer ] learn more at isitlowt. Com. [ laughs ] hey cooper judd apatow has become one of the most successful names in film comedy today. As writer, producer, and director, hes created a new form of comedy thats so popular, many of hollywoods top comedic actors want to work with him. We caught up with apatow in los angeles as he was putting the finishing touches on his latest film, called this is 40. Like many of his movies, its about what he knows his family, his relationships, and the daily disappointments and dilemmas we all experience, but usually try to hide. Judd apatow finds humor in all of it. There are comedians who tell jokes. Judd apatow yeah. Cooper but you dont tell jokes. Apatow i literally cannot remember one joke. Cooper there are not a lot of jokes in judd apatows films. This is 40 centers on a man and his wife dealing with career failure and strains in their relationship. Have you ever thought about killing me . Oh, yeah . Really . Sure. How would you do it . Wood chipper. Wow. I know. Cooper what is your comedy . How do you describe it . Apatow just trying to tell the truth about, you know, the struggle of being alive is funny. Its just inherently tragic, and also hilarious, in a fun way and in a sad way. That seems to connect with people. Cooper the struggle to connect with people is a common theme with apatow. His brand of comedy revels in awkward or painful situations he mines for revealing, humorous moments. So next time you think about writing something nasty on my daughters facebook page, i will come down here and i will. Cooper its funny, but it. Its also kind of startling. Apatow it is, it is. But we all want to scream at that little boy. In life, most of us dont scream at that boy most of the time. I have. I have said to the boy, watch it. Watch it. Be nice to my daughter. But i never got into the full scream, like in the movie. Cooper judd apatow doesnt just make movies based on his own family; he actually uses his family in his films. Thats apatows wife, leslie mann, and those are his real children, maude and iris. You cant do this. You cant take away the wifi. You need to get outside more, do some playing outside. You could build a fort outside. What . Play kick the can. Get a tire, and then just take a stick and run down a street with it. Nobody does that crap. Its 2012. You dont need technology. No technology maude in the movie, they take away. Cooper right. Maude . The wifi out of the house. And they actually did take the wifi out of our house. Cooper visiting apatows home feels like stepping into an apatow movie. Why did you take the wifi out of the house . Apatow we think theres electronic waves which do bad things to your brain. Cooper oh, okay. Apatow we dont have any proof but. Cooper do you like having your whole family in your movies . Apatow yeah, no, i really like it. Its kind of like this. Like this is what the day is like. They are weirdly comfortable together and funny, and its nice to, you know, see them every day. Cooper how did it start . How did you. . Apatow i just thought it would be interesting to see a real family in a movie, because its always frustrating that you can tell the kids arent the kids of those actors. Cooper do you ever find it too personal . Like discussions youve had end up in a movie . Leslie mann i like that. Im. Thats. You know, my favorite thing is, like, the more uncomfortable, the better. Cooper has there been a moment or in any film where your wife has said, do not put this in a movie . Apatow no. She says something very different, which is, oh yeah . You want to put that in the movie . Why dont we show you doing this . You know . Lets do the scene where youre weird about having sex during pregnancy. And so she evens it out, she doesnt say lose anything. Cooper the scene hes talking about wound up in his hit film knocked up, which is about two mismatched singles who have a onenight stand that results in a pregnancy. Like his new film, this is 40, it reflects apatows own insecurities. While its hard to find a comedian who is not a bit insecure, apatow takes it to an extreme. He was even agitated about sitting down to talk with us. Apatow i had to think about which shirt would look good. I worried if the hair was going to come out from outside my shirt. I wonder if you could see that i have a gray nostril hair. Ive been watching this show my entire life, so this is like important to me. I hope i dont screw it up. Cooper youve given more thought to this than i have, i have to admit. Apatow i know. Because i. Then i think, he doesnt even care, he doesnt even care about me. laughter cooper it sounds like hes kidding, but hes not, and apatow writes that fear and anxiety into his characters. I respect women, i love women. I respect them so much that i completely stay away from them. Cooper the first hit movie he wrote, produced, and directed, the 40yearold virgin, starred steve carell as a socially immature adult unable to relate to women, never mind date them. You have made a career out of your lack of comfort. Apatow yes. Writing is about trying to figure something out about yourself and about life. Cooper it sounds a lot like therapy. Apatow it is. It is a kind of therapy. Its almost like a letter to yourself. Youre trying to frame your life and understand how you got here, and and what you should do now. Cooper apatow has wanted to be a comedian since he was a teenager growing up in syosset, new york. Apatow this is wkwz syosset. Cooper he worked at his High School Radio station, and sought out standup comedians like jay leno and Jerry Seinfeld to interview. What was it about these guys that you wanted to be like . Apatow i just liked funny people who said that life wasnt fair, systems werent fair. I felt like a nerd, i was, like, the goofy kid getting picked last in gym class, so. Cooper literally, youd get picked last . Apatow i mean, literally, like, after all the girls and people with disabilities, you know. And its a rough thing to go through every day for ten years. cheers and applause judd apatow cooper apatow moved to los angeles and tried turning those painful high School Experiences into standup routines. His roommate, adam sandler, was making it big in standup. But apatows act wasnt working. Apatow so the night would be, like, sandler and paul reiser, and then Robin Williams would pop in, and Ellen Degeneres was there. And by the end of the night, i would just feel like, im not as good as any of these people and i dont see it happening. Cooper what did begin to happen, says adam sandler, is that apatow began to make a name for himself as a writer of comedy for other people. Adam sandler then this guy started constantly writing, and then hed get paid, so he was the first guy i saw just write. None of us were doing that yet. Apatow i realized that, you know, how i feel about life works better in writing scenes and showing the different point of views that people have with each other. It just worked better than me, you know, giving a speech. Cooper judd apatow executive produced a show called freaks and geeks. In it, he wrote about his experiences as a lonely child of divorce back in syosset, when every day after school, he studied comedians on tv talk shows. Apatow theres a moment where bill haverchuck comes home from school, and he lives alone with his mom i lived alone with my dad when i was a kid. And he makes Grilled Cheese sandwich, he cuts a big piece of chocolate entenmanns cake. He puts on the dinah shore show, and Garry Shandling comes on, and he goes from being miserable to just laughing and having the best time ever alone in his room. And that was, you know, a large amount of my afternoons when i was a kid. Cooper freaks and geeks was canceled after just one season, but it gave apatow an early vision for what he wanted his work to be, a model he has stuck with to this day. Seth rogen and jason segel, who were unknown teenagers when apatow cast them in freaks and geeks, continue to appear in many of his movies, and apatow helps produce theirs. When judd started working with you, do you know what he said about you . Seth rogen no. Cooper he was quoted as saying, this is the weirdest, oddest person ive ever seen. laughter rogen i can see that. laughs i was a weird kid. Cooper apatow has helped turn seth rogen and jason segel into comedic stars. Jason segel i could be wrong, but i always felt like there was some element of like a monte christostyle revenge on your part, like, oh, really . Im going to make these guys so famous, like now what . Cooper what do you think of his comedy . What do you think sets it apart . Rogen i think a lot of the thing thats great about it is its really funny. It makes people laugh really hard. I think a lot of comedies just dont have is movies with very good emotional stories, you know . Cooper theres a humanity to it. Rogen yeah. And just emotional stories that make sense. Segel because you get tired of, like, a movie thats all about jokes, after about 30 minutes. Thats why a sitcom. Rogen for sure. Segel . Is that length. Rogen yeah. Hey. What are you doing . Cooper judd apatows films are certainly not for everyone. His critics say they are too long and the humor often too juvenile. There is a lot of bathroom humor in a lot of your films. Apatow yeah. Cooper do you ever feel like its too much, or that its immature . Apatow i just find immaturity is funny. I think we all start out pretty immature, and then we have to have this moment where we decide, like, im not going to behave like that anymore. And i dont even know if thats a good thing. Cooper you havent reached that stage yet . Apatow not really. Cooper apatow is also highly sought after as a producer on other peoples movies, like bridesmaids, which grossed nearly 300 million. Will ferrell i am ron burgundy. You stay classy, san diego. Cooper and he worked on anchorman, written by will ferrell and adam mckay. They agreed to talk about how apatow works, but first, they had to get some jokes out of their system while getting made up. Adam mckay has judd. Has judd apatow hurt people . Oh, sure. Youre damn right he has. Will ferrell has he made a lot of money dealing arms . You betcha. Hes one of the best. Mckay judd apatow is a monster. laughs tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. laughter cooper as a producer, apatow encouraged ferrell and mckay to push the comedy to ridiculous extremes, particularly in a scene in which two stations news teams face off in a fight. Mckay and all judd did as a producer would say was, theres more here. Ferrell and i sat down, were like all right, what happens if another news team shows up , what happens if another . And then we wrote the whole gang fight. Ferrell what happens if theres a guy on fire, and someone on horseback, what would happen . Cooper what happened is that anchorman took in more than 90 million. Now, theyre all working together on a sequel. Is his sense of humor different than yours . Ferrell judd, probably, is a little more story driven than we are. Cooper he wants there to be a through line or. Or sort of emotional story . Ferrell but. Exactly, yeah. Mckay hes got that crazy idea that there has to be a through line. laughter cooper apatows crazy ideas are more in demand than ever. Hes one of the executive producers on the critically acclaimed hbo series girls, and just guest edited a comedy issue of vanity fair magazine. Cooper you once said that when someone is laughing at something youve written, you know he doesnt dislike you. Apatow yes, its. I. 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