Minority communities, discuss the president s response with Homeland Security secretary jeh johnson and new York City Police commissioner bill bratton and then talk to the reverend Jesse Jackson about the racial divide in america. Then there is too much violence, too much hate. A brutal attack on our police force is an attack on our country. The president ial candidates respond. Well speak to key supporters on both sides about the impact on 2016. Plus well ask our sunday panel about the clinton email fallout. All right now on Fox News Sunday. And hello, again, from fox news in washington. A weekend of protests across the country as tensions remain high following the shooting ambush that killed five Police Officers in dallas. In the aftermath of the policeinvolved shootings of two black men in louisiana and minnesota. Overnight in st. Paul officers used smoke bombs to clear crowds blocking a section of protesting the death of Philando Castile and also protests over the shooting of alton sterling. And the president overseas on his first visit to spain, he will return early to washington in response to the crisis. This hour we will speak with prominent Law Enforcement and civil rights leaders about how the country can heal, but we begin with william la jeunesse live in dallas with the latest from there. William. Reporter shannon, let me show you some video that illustrates just how often edge police are here and around the country. Last night around 6 00 p. M. Police received information that a man had breached a secure Police Parking garage. Dpd responded with two s. W. A. T. Teams, a helicopter, snipers, they locked down headquarters and cleared several blocks although the search of that structure came up empty. Also last night shots were fired at Police Headquarters in san antonio. In st. Louis on friday, georgia and tennessee africanamericans allegedly fires at retaliation they said for those controversial shootings in minnesota and baton rouge. As for the investigation here, Police Believe 25yearold Micah Johnson acted alone, formerly with the army reserve he was discharged last year after a complaint of sexual harassment. In the search of his home police found a ballistic vest, rifles, ammunition and a manual on combat tactics which he did use here. While not affiliated with any organization he did attend meetings of the new black Panther Party which experts say is a racist hate group. Also here police are defending their innovative use of a robot to kill johnson, blowing him up with a pound of c4 explosives. Now, a candlelight memorial is planned for tomorrow night at city hall. Two officers were released yesterday from the hospital, officer misty mcbride remains hospitalized, but she will recover. Shannon. William la jeunesse in dallas, joining me now charles ramsey, former Police Commissioner in philadelphia. Mr. Ramsey, welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Thank you. Following the shooting death of Michael Brown in ferguson you were named to cochair the president s task force on 21st century policing. Have we made progress in the interim . Yeah, i think weve made a lot of progress. First of all, we did publish a report, we presented it to the president , he accepted it and the report was published and we have close to 60 recommendations on an almost 90 action steps. It is a solid roadmap toward creating the kind of change we need in policing in order to bridge the gap that currently exists. Do you see that closing or do you feel that were more divided than ever right now . Well, certainly there is a gap. There is no question about that. Whether or not its more or less remains to be seen, but this is all fixable, but as long as we continue to on both sides and we dont engage in serious thoughtful discussion that really results in solutions to our problems so that theres not two sides to the issue, theres only one and that is safe neighborhoods in which theres also a sense of justice and fairness for the people who reside in those neighborhoods and for the Police Officers that work in those neighborhoods. Thats the goal. And i think were working toward it, but unfortunately we continue to have some issues arise. In reacting to the shooting deaths of those five officers in dallas the president had this to say on his travels in poland. Part of whats creating tensions between communities and the police is the fact that police have a really difficult time in communities where they know guns are everywhere. So if you care about the safety cant set aside the gun issue and pretend that thats irrelevant. And that issue is one that continues to percolate here in washington, on capitol hill, across the country. I know that you have been heavily involved in chicago, youve been most recently an adviser both formally and informally to the department there, you know its a city with some of the toughest gun laws yet there are 20 feet that have been shot, 300 of them have died. Are more gun control laws the answer, will they solve these problems . Well, listen, this is a complicated issue and theres no one thing thats going to be the magic bullet to fix the problem. We need to be able to take a comprehensive look at whats going on in our communities, we need a comprehensive look at the entire criminal Justice System. There hasnt been such a review of the entire system since 1965. I mean, obviously things have and we need to look at not only the criminal Justice System but need to look at these communities where we have problems with crime and violence and unfortunately a lot of gun crime. So, yeah, sensible gun laws can help but that by itself is not going to solve the problem. We have to take a more comprehensive approach if we want to solve these problems. You recently retired as chief of police in philadelphia, of course, th dnc will be there in a few weeks, im sure there have been preparations and planning months and years in advance of that. I want to read what the Deputy Police chief in cleveland who is overseeing the rnc component had to stay after the shooting debts in dallas. He said, quote, we have got to make some changes without a doubt. How concerned are you about these two cities being targets for bad actors, domestic actors or someone inspired by a group like isis. Hopefully we dont have any problems at the rnc or dnc, but obviously right now everyone is on edge. Im certain that departments across the country, not just those that are hosting these of their protocols, all of their procedures to make sure that our officers remain safe, to make sure that the citizens that we protect can remain safe. This is a very volatile time right now and we have to be very cautious, very careful, take whatever precautions we need to be able to take, but i also think that we dont need to exaggerate the situation to a point where we just further alienate ourselves from the people that we serve. There are always threats out there, Police Officers face those threats every single day. I think its a good move to take whatever added precautions you can take, but everyone is not out to harm police and i think we need to keep that in mind. Mr. Ramsey, thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you. Joining me now is new York City Police commissioner bill bratton and Homeland Security secretary jeh johnson. Jeh, welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Thanks, shannon. Commissioner, given the events of ts to start by asking you how the men and women serving on the streets for the nypd, whats the mood, how are they feeling . Well, i think like the rest of america policing the rest of america hearts and prayers certainly go out to our colleagues in dallas, all that theyve dealt with and all that theyre continuing to deal with. Weve been there in new york, we had two of our detectives murdered back in 2014, december 2014, and i remember the pain of that. So what dallas is dealing with is, you know, almost, you know almost impossible to imagine, except it happened. We dont have to imagine, it happened. And now the investigation to learn more about the shooter continues. Mr. Secretary, you had said that Micah Johnson didnt appear to be aligned with any particular group. It appears that his Facebook Page may have had likes for certain groups. There has been a conversation that he had some link to a black Panthers Group in houston briefly. That did not end well. Can you tell us anything more about his motivations or what youv well, the investigation is ongoing, its still relatively early. Everything we know about this individual is being investigated, uncovered and i suspect we are going to know a lot more in a couple days. It does appear that he was a single shooter, the lone shooter. We do not see any affiliation with any International Terrorist organization like isil or al qaeda, but the investigation does continue. We do know what he told the Hostage Negotiator just before he was killed, that he wanted to kill white people. That he especially wanted to kill white Police Officers. I think thats almost a quote coming from chief brown. Were going to know a lot more about this individual in the coming days. The other thing id like to say, shannon, is within federal Law Enforcement i have literally tens of thousands of Law Enforcement officers working for us in the department of Homeland Security and at a time like this we all stand together, we all five Fallen Heroes in dallas, just as we do every time a Law Enforcement officer is killed in the line of duty, whether at the local level or the federal level. And certainly there can be great unity in that time in that grief and in those connections. Commissioner, theres clearly a lot of pain, there is a divide. Thats just the practicalities, the realities of what were dealing with. What are the best way or ways that you are endeavoring and that you recommend Law Enforcement to endeavor to close this gap between Law Enforcement officers and minority groups who feel, you know, mistreated, misunderstood . They dont trust officers, in fact, they often view them as the enemy. Well, going back to the experience of december 2014, that murder of two of my detectives, in terms of bridging the gap, trying to close the gap, weve been doing a lot of work in new york over these past two years on training of officers, deescalation techniques, hundreds upon hundreds of meetings with Community Leaders and community groups. The idea of seeing each other, the idea of hearing each other, not talking past each other and with just rhetoric but actually meaningful conversation. There is a place for demonstrations certainly but theres also much more of a need for dialogue, collaboration. I applaud the naacp here in new york, for example, which has been holding a series of community meetings. I applaud the efforts of the head of my guardians association, detective u self hahm who is calling his members together for dialogue and they are going to go out to the community as black officers and as blacks. We have that dual burden, if you will, in todays society. We can close it. I think weve had in new york a relatively quiet period of time since those murders, not without controversy of certain incidents but we can close it. We must close it. And we close it by collaboration, by seeing this as a shared responsibility, not us against them, police against community. In a Democracy Police are the community. They come from the community. In new york city the majority of my officers live in this city and i have significant minority representation. We have a minority Majority Police department in this minority majority city. As you said listening to each other not talking past each other, especially at a time like this. Critical and i think thats something people across the board can agree on, mr. Commissioner bratton, mr. Secretary, we thank you both. Thank you. Thank you. Up next, the reverend Jessie Jackson joins us to discuss the racial divide and the president s response. Well bring in our sunday group to discuss the aftermath. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel about how to heal the divide between minority communities and Law Enforcement . Just go to facebook or twitter foxnewssunday. We may use your question on the air. When people are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic. Now is definitely not the time to get political. Now is the time to use logic and ask ourselves why do we have a constitution . Why do we have a second amendment. Dr. Ben carson a donald trump surrogate calling out president obama on his renewed push for on camera and the full Police Walked away, the other shot in new york in the back by police, this he walked away, Trayvon Martin the killer walked away, brown, ferguson the killer walked away. There is a backlog of pain and somehow we must look at the issue of violence on the one hand, which is almost a diversion to the issue of poverty and Racial Disparities. We must not just focus on the police issue. Poverty and racial figure out in this tough season here how to choose reconciliation over retaliation and revenge. Reverend, you mentioned several high profile cases there. The facts in some of those cases they were thoroughly investigated by federal and state authorities. Some of those officers were cleared, other officers have been indicted are facing murder charges in current pending cases or have been convicted. There are investigations, its t as if those werent investigated at all. Here in chicago, for example, in that case one man was indicted, seven, eight police saw thats the kind of pattern. That is a breakdown. I hope that there will be real conference now on Racial Disparities and violence and poverty because police are simply the gatekeepers. Beneath the rule of police on the firing edge spreads the access to healthcare and housing and jobs. That agenda gets lost arguing about good and bad police. We certainly hope that this killing and this violence will stop. You have said that you think donald trump at least in part has contributed to a very divisive mood in this country. You called part of that an antiglad mood. I want to play a little bit of what he said in response to the shootings and events of last few days and then get your reaction. A brutal attack on our police force is an attack on our country and an attack on our families. The deaths of all ton sterling in louisiana and Philando Castile in minnesota also make clear how much more work we have to do to mke feel that their safety is protected. Reverend, what do you make of his remarks . Well, those significant remarks i submit to you when you do the Birther Movement on the president which is an antiblack, the antimexican, the deportation of 15 million people, of families, disruption, antimuslim. That kind of rhetoric has head to seed these clouds. I hope mr. Trump will maintain the level of rhetoric that we just now heard. The president yesterday speaking in poland said he doesnt think that the country is deeply as divided as some people do. There are some on the right who say he could have done more as the first black president to further racial reconciliation. Here is a bit of what former House SpeakerNewt Gingrich and possible trump vp pick had to say. We are in the eighth year of a president who could have brought us together. A president who could have worked in the Africanamerican Community to make people feel better about themselves. A president who could have offered visionary changes in the policies that have failed for the last 50 years and he didnt do any of that. Reverend, has the president missed a golden opportunity on this issue . Every time he has made the move even to have a reconciliation between dr. Gates and the police in boston he has met great rejection. Now theyre saying he should have done more. The fact is in a city like chicago, for example, unemployment in the black community is around 20 for adults, 35 for youth, they bail out the banks, public schools, there is a deep divide. We need a plan for reconstruction and redevelopment and i hope that police are the gatekeepers but behind that gate are these problems of disparities and injustice. And in mentioning those the president has been the president for almost eight years now. These are happened under his administration, some of its administrations, but with him being in the white house seven and a half years where do you point the finger for knows problems that you blame, unemployment and other issues . Im not sure the finger pointing for example, when he first came into office there have been a net gain of jobs every month since he has been president. 20 million have Health Insurance who did not have it before and millions more would have affordable healthcare if it were not being blocked, for example. It would have helped black and white a light. Fast rail was blocked by the congress and so i think we would do better if all of us were to see this as a humanity issue and not make it ideological. I think all of us can do more and at this stage must do more because these are military style weapons on the streets. This thing could get much uglier. There is fear, police in fear, people if are in fear, children are fear, but fear and hate must not drive our agenda, love and hope and heali agenda. I agree with you on that point but its important to note as well military style weapons if youre talking about machine guns are illegal for the most part and i think its a distinction we need to make when we talk about that. In texas theres ak47 schlt. They can bring that on airplanes. It is irrational to me to have militarystyle weapons. No defense against them. When this guy who was trained in the military unleashes with his training these guns, he could not be stopped. That could happen in front of a ball game or a church or a theater. We must know that more guns make us less safe, not more safe and not more secure. Reverend, with all respect if reports are correct that that shooter in texas was using an ar15 its not an automatic weapon, it couldnt bring down an airplane. There is a discussion about guns to be had and sounds like this administration wants to continue having that. I submit if someone was sitting in an airport there are weapons in the streets t planes taking off or landing can be hit and be taken down. As we fight for weapons of mass destruction to be eliminated we must eliminate them ourselves. Conversation will continue. We appreciate your time today, sir. Thank you. Thank you. And it is time now for our sunday group, fox news senior political analyst brit hume, susan page from usa today, karl rove and fox new political analyst juan williams. Welcome. Juan, where are we right now . Has things gotten better or are they getting worse . Well, obviously, i mean, i think, you know, the fact that im sitting here as part of this panel, you know, i dont think my dad would be here so were talking, you know, over 50 years. Depends where you want to judge it, shannon. I think at the moment i just feel so sad. I think the whole country is sort of grieving right now after dallas and especially after watching those two videos from minnesota and louisiana because the social media kind of takes you right into it and even in dallas the watching the police have to deal and a man standing over a policeman and shooting repeatedly in that manner, that kind of hatred, it just it just shocks the system and it makes you think, gosh, you know, race in this country as you suggested by your question we are in a bad place. So the request he is how do you stop this cycle of violence and hate . How do we get out of it . I think weve had some i just want to say from my perspective to hear paul ryan the speaker of the house say, do you know what, we can do better than this and we cannot just tap into the predictable script of saying hatred and pointing fingers. I ought that was so important. I thought it was so important for Newt Gingrich to come out and say so many white people dont understand the added risk that comes with being black and being stopped by police in this country. I was very appreciative to hear that and to move away even by donald trump from the idea im going to blame the other side and make this into a racial situation. And we asked folks to in to be part of this discussion today on twitter richard says why are Race Relations in america at an all time low after electing our first black president seems would be better. Jay asks which candidate would of a better shot at healing the racial divide and how do you get black males to trust police and vice versa. One place we doesnt go and that is not turn this into a gate about gun control. I was taken aback gk butter field after castile and sterling lost their lives his Immediate Response was to say if we fail to act and have a full debate on gun control this will be a long, hot summer. The only kind of gun control issue that was involved in the deaths of sterling and castile was the guns in the hands of the police. And so unless the argument is we ought to disarm the police, this is not connected with gun control. Theres no gun measure nobody everybodys gun. There is no gun measure thats been proposed that would have kept these incidents from happening. I would say this,alil, i agree with juan about Newt Gingrich and particularly paul ryan and i also want to thank you for what you said. I happened to catch what you said about which is something i think every american needs to understand you having to have a conversation with your two sons about what to do if they came into contact with Police Officers. And i dont want to be overly critical of the president , but when he said its very hard to untangle the motives of the shooter. I will leave that to psychologists and people who study these kinds of incidents. It would have been far better for this dialogue if he said a man who declares his intention to kill white people, especially white Police Officers is a man engaged in hate and you cannot confront something unless youre willing to call it by its in a im. Much more to discuss with the panel. We will take a quick break. When we come up coming back, we will talk about the impact on the campaign trail of th conversation. Hillary clinton outlining what she would do to end the violence and the hate in the wake of these incidents all across this country. 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Joining me now key advocates for both candidates, both mentioned as possible vp picks, the labor secretary thomas perez representing clinton and alabama senator Jeff Sessions a top trump advisory. Welcome to Fox News Sunday. Great to be here in my personal capacity, shannon. Lets talk about1 what president clinton meaning a president Hillary Clinton, would do. How she would tackle these issues were dealing with and mistrust in the community, this violence. How do you go about that . Ive spent more than a decade at the Justice Department under republican and democratic administrations on these issues. Hillary clinton, i think, has that are critically important. Number one, the most important currency that a Police Officer has is the trust of the community. And that if you dont have trust then you cant police. So everything she is doing is focused around making sure we dont ask the wrong questions, and the wrong question is this whose side are you on, are you on the polices side or are you on the communitys side, thats a false choice. We are all in this together. Her entire campaign has been about the fact that when we marshall the collective power of we and come together as a Community Around the reality that we have Racial Disparities in our criminal Justice System and we also have very, very challenging times for Police Officers, this is when we are all in this together, we when marshall that trust, when we engage the community, you had chief bratton on earlier today, i prosecuted an lapd officer pre rodney king when i was working in the bush one administration, challenges. You fast forward now under chief brattons leadership, the engagement of the community, the involvement of the department of justice things change for the better. So the good news here, i understand the fear that so many people have and the mistrust and secretary clinton understands that when we bring people together, when we learn about how we can do things like, you know, deescalation training, when we understand and not talk past each other but talk together with each other, i think you can build trust. I saw it in los angeles fpd. I saw it in seattle, washington, i worked a lot with the Police Department there and secretary clinton understands that we can do this as long as we marshall the collective power of we and dont talk past each other and dont create these false choices. All right. Lets talk about some campaign issues. Yesterday the formal announcement that mrs. Clinton will pursue a public option for healthcare, some call it the government run option, its a concept that she has been associated with in the past. Statement congratulating her on that. Conservatives not as equally congratulatory on that. American rising said, desperate to win over the Warren Sanders crew that deep police di trusts her secretary clinton is adopting the most left wing views. Theres nothing she wont do or say to fit into todays modern democratic socialist party. Has the primary pulled her so far left she will have trouble in the general election. I think Hillary Clinton will do great in the general election. She has been fighting for healthcare her entire adult life. As first lady she took on the Healthcare Industry to try to expand access to healthcare. She helped get the childrens Health Insurance program passed. She wants to make sure that healthcare is a right, not a privilege in this country and i think the work thats been done under this president has brought us a tremendously far way but theres still Unfinished Business and what shes trying to do is cnt this week the conclusion of the fbi email investigation director comey saying that she and staffers were negligent and extremely careless. He did not recommend criminal prosecution. Here is reaction from House OversightCommittee Chair republican jason chaffetz. I think there is a legitimate concern that there is a double standard. If your name isnt clinton or you are not part of the powerful elite that lady justice will act differently. So how do you feel with the perception among some that mrs. Clinton got away with something . You know, what was interesting about this is when the investigation was under way i heard republicans praise director comey who, as you know, was the number two person at doj under the administration of george w. Bush. And then when they reached their conclusion and it was the career folks there who were vigilant and independent, now they they have a different tu and that hearing was rather interesting this week because what it really illustrated was exactly what we know, which is there was no criminal wrongdoing on secretary clintons part. She made a mistake, shes acknowledged that and now, you know, theyre continuing to hold those hearings and frankly those hearings really clarified what we know, which is that, again, there was no criminal wrongdoing and she shouldnt have done that and she acknowledged it was a mistake to do this. She acknowledges that she has to earn the trust back of, you know, many people who are wondering. And the thing is this is not the first time she has worked hard to earn trust. When she ran for governor of new york, and i grew up in upstate new york, there were a lot of skeptics about Hillary Clinton. When she ran for. Senate. Nate of new york, sorry. There were a lot of skeptics in new york. She earned their trust and then she got ee elected. Folks in places like upstate new york, she was a workhorse, not a show horse. She worked with a lot of people in the senate who she had been in an adversarial relationship with when she was first lady and she was able to work bipartisan, whether it was with Lindsey Graham or john mccain on immigration, obviously with president obama. Stuff campaign and then she earned his trust as well. So she looks forward to earning the trust of the American People. There are several contradictions in and inconsistencies that came up between what she said and what the director james comey said about the fact that there were classified emails that were found on her server that she didnt turn over all of her workrelated emails as she said. That these were marked at the time that she sent them, she did use multiple devices during her time as second that she denied. What do you do with those inconsistencies. Actually the hearing which was obviously a partisan hearing im glad it took place because it cleared up a lot of those thing documents that were in fact classified. During that hearing director comey clarified that, in fact, there were there were three documents that had markings, but they didnt have the proper markings. So he said it would be it was it would be a reasonable inference for anyone to draw that those were not classified documents. So actually he did also say that there was so mu material that someone as sophisticated as a former senator, a secretary of state should have known better. Secretary clinton does not deny the fact that she made a mistake but she was getting materials from career officials at the Justice Department, at the state department, people who know what theyre doing and so she didnt second guess that and, again, the hearing clarified a lot of this. And so, you know, thanks to the republicans for that. The reality is, you know, were now in a Campaign Cycle and she understands that she has to, again, earn the trust and, you know, ive seen Hillary Clinton up close and personal, the voters of new york saw her up close and personal and i often judge a person by what they did when they werent in the spotlight and Hillary Clinton has spent her entire life breaking down barriers, whether its for people with disabilities, the individuals with disabilities is a product and part of work she did in her 20s. The work she has done to break down barriers in education. All of those things i think cast a really important light on who she is. As somebody who sounds like a great advocate for her could you be her vp pick . Ill leave that to other people. Im working on my day job right now and i love my day job. My day job is about making sure that we expand opportunity for everywhere, we break down barriers. Weve done a lot of work under this president and ive been out on the stump nor secretary clinton because i think she has a remarkable experience and temperament. As weve seen over the last few weeks these are these Turbulent Times and they call for someone who has a steady hand who can bring people together and thats what shes done all her life. She understands that mexico is an ally, not an adversary. We have to leave it there. Well see whether you are a formal addition to the ticket out on the campaign trail as well. Thank you so much. Always a pleasure. Up next, donald trump has a tense meeting with republicans on capitol hill and meets with former rival ted cruz. We will discuss it with a key trump adviser, senator Jeff Sessions next. Youre here to buy a car. Thats never really been possible. But along comes a radically new way to buy a car, called truecar. Now it is. 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We have got great Police Officers all over the country, a they are out there in dangerous situations, sometimes they make mistakes, but i will tell you theres nothing more needed in this country than to make sure that our poorer neighborhoods, our neighborhoods where minority citizens have Police Protection and they are able to walk on their streets and their children can play outside without fear and danger. In all of this we need to understand the true value of our Police Officer and the risks that they undertake. Every single day. Lets talk politics now. Donald trump had a meeting with the gop senators this week, obviously you know all about that, you were there, there were heated moments i hear, it was pretty tense. Some of the conversation was about some of the controversial comments he has made over the last year and there was a statement from senator sasse. He said our country continues to believe our country is in a bad place and with these two candidates it remains a dumpster stage. 80 find mr. Trump hot 83 say obnoxious. How did that meeting go . I think it went very well, senators, many of them told me how they thought it went well. That was a Little Exchange between a couple of the senators, not senator sasse, he spoke to donald trump, they spoke before the meeting and trump said something funny about him, you know, that they had a difference of opinion and he was a nice guy, but i thought that was all right and it was a kind of Frank Exchange you would look for. I believe what came out of it a policy spin or feeling. This is a series of meetings he has been having and i think its been working for him. Okay. He has obviously run on the let me say one thing about his frankness and directness. This is a strong man. He is not a timid wallflower. The American People are seeing a refinement in his messaging, a more substantive messaging, and they see the strength, though, that they know shown in washington to break the cycle that we are on, to turn this economy around, to help poor people get better wages instead of declining wages, which is what were seeing and thats going to be what this election is about. Who can fix this economy, who can put us on the right track. Does it help poor africanamericans to bring in more labor than we have and bring down wages as weve been seeing into this country . Does it help them to have bad trade deals so that manufacturing plants are closed and wages arent there . We have the highest almost double the Unemployment Rate among young africanamericans than we do among others. So we need to protect this economy, create have a strong leader who can break up this log jam in washington. And theres certainly so many people who that message resonates with, that very frank talk and those promises on those very hot issues. So its clearly connecting with a lot of americans, not all of them, including mrs. Clinton. This week she took on mr. Trumps Business Record because its something that he has emphasized in his run for the white house. Here is a bit of what she said in Atlantic City this week. He makes over the top promises and says if people trust him, put their faith in him he will deliver for them. He will make them wildly successful. Then everything falls apart, people get hurt and donald gets paid. How will he respond to that on the campaign trail . He has been a highly successful businessman, but has invested in hundreds of businesses and some of them havent been successful. But most of them have. Atlantic city sank the whole city went under basically. So i think donald trump is no doubt about it he is a successful businessman, he has traveled the world, hes invested around the world, hes so he fist kated in those ways in a way that Hillary Clinton has no idea on. She does not understand really not created jobs in manufacturing and hotels and things around the world. So i think he clearly has the advantage there. Okay. Lets do a little vp talk because of course youve been on just about every short list out there. Theres also an article i read over the weekend that youre pushing mr. Trump to choose a general, somebody in the military that would be greatly reflected Lieutenant GeneralMichael Flynn has come up. What can you tell us . I have not pushed him to have a general. I have said something nice about general flynn, he was a Defense Intelligence commander, threestar general, he knows the secret world of whats going on around the world mill fairliy. So i am a high friend of his and appreciate what he does. What about a Vice President sessions . That will be decided by donald trump and he is going to decide it on who he thinks will be a good president , who he can work with, who can h president. Ive said that if he asks me to do that i would consider it and would be honored to be considered. Okay. Some people who dont know your bio or background may not know that you were a prosecutor for a long time. So i want to ask you about this Hillary Clinton email case and play a little bit of what the fbi director, jim comey said about that summing up testifying before the house this week. She should have known not to do this with classified information. I think she was extremely careless, i think she was negligent, that i could establish. What we cant establish is that she acted with the necessary criminal intent. As a one time prosecutor is that the end of it . Is intent necessary . Is there has been a dig debate about that with these potential statutory violations she has been accused of in the court of public opinion. I have not studied the facts but it does appear to me that she was aware that she should not use this system for classified information and the director says she was careless. Now, thats a very close to criminal intent. And there is a misdemeanor charge that requires less intent, they could have brought that ps pra. They did not use the grand jury where the witnesses are brought before the grand jury and asked on questions under oath on the record. That can make a strengthen a case, too. Really the problem is Hillary Clinton. She is the one that pushed this for her own convenience and as the director said, this information could well be in the hands of our adversaries right now because that system was not secure and was easily penetrateable and we have the evidence that some of the systems were penetrated. All right. Senator sessions we will leave it there. Thank you so much for coming into Fox News Sunday. Thank you. When we come back the panel returns. We are back now with the panel. Brit, lets talk about the political fallout. Hillary clinton has been cleared by the fbi essentially saying, yes, careless, extreme carelessness but no criminal intent, no criminal charges recommended. Im not sure i would use the word cleared after the picture that was painted by director comey of his conduct was devastating. If you paucity any normal year, any normal set of circumstances and determine that one of the candidates has been extremely careless in the handling of classified information, that by itself would seem to be disqualifying, but in this year and in this moment its not for her. So she remains the favorite to become president. It is a striking situation. Moreover, there is the clear fact that the law that comey was talking about or the laws, the book that he was citing in his decision to recommend no prosecution, didnt quite support his claim which involved the question of intent. He said it was absent. Normally that is a factor in the decision whether to prosecute, but there is a section of the law that we have all heard about all week that simply says gross negligence, which is pretty close to extreme carelessness if you think about it and i suspect he chose the words extreme carelessness very carefully to try to draw a distinction which i dont think the law recognizes and i think a prosecution would have been an appropriate reasonable decision though he said that no reasonable prosecutor would do it. I think this is damaging to her. I dont think its over. And on we go with a set of choices that most americans now find for president unsatisfactory. Susan, there are so many other things going on here. Jason chaffetz says early next week he will make a referral to the fbi for this investigation about whether she lied to congress. Theres potentially an fbi investigation going into the Clinton Foundation going on. The state department is reopening its look into this whole thing. There are still shoes potentially left to drop. This controversy isnt over, we will be hearing about it from now until election day. I agree with brit not prosecutable is not the words strongest Campaign Slogan you could run on. Think about the alternative if comey had said it was prosecutable, he was going to recommend criminal indictment of secretary clinton we would be in a et to he will different place, democrats would be debating whether to go ahead with her nomination in two weeks. She has averted a catastrophe, she has reinforced the doubts about her character, her honesty, transparency, trustworthiness that are her biggest single problem and shes made it i think more difficult for her to unite the nation. From the beginning of your show the discussion of these terrible shootings, you get this sense that americans feel so fractured and would really like to be drawn together and i think it is quite difficult for either Hillary Clinton or donald trump to be the figures in a position to do that. Karl, how much will the vp pick matter on each side or wont it . It doesnt matter much. They have very little impact except in their home state. It will say much about the decisionmaking process of the candidate, what do they consider to be important in a running mate. Let me add to what susan and brit said. Not only does it reinforce she is dishonest and untrustworthy, she loo id to us about every one of the major claims she made about this, but it also leaves the stench to the rules dont apply to her. If the next secretary of state came in and said im going to set up my own private server in my home and do Hillary Clinton did, do you think that the official washington line would be, go ahead and do it because thats your right just as it was for Hillary Clinton . Soered naer americans are looking at this saying, do you know what, bill went and met with the attorney general, the fix it in. Clinton has been endorsed by president obama, the even the attorney general admits its a bad thing to have happen. A lot of ordinary americans are saying theres two sets of rules, one for the clintons and one for everybody else. I want to get you to react to numbers. When asked whether she was honest and trustworthy 30 said yes. 58 say she is corrupt. I think she has to speak directly to the American People. This week you will have Bernie Sanders her primary opponent come out and endorse her. President obama endorsed her, Vice President buy dens endorsement was put in abeyance given what happened in dallas president obama is in good shape to transfer to her the fact that yes, i trust her. This week he said she is the most qualified person ever to run for president , but thats the message that has to be conveyed to reassure especially independent voters, shannon, that she is a reliable choice. It wont matter. She is not going to be established as reliable or trustworthy. You dont think the numbers turn around. That doesnt mean she wont win because of who her opponent s its a very strange election cycle in which each candidate is the others best hope. Thank you, panel. Thats all we have time for today. That is it for todays Fox News Sunday. 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