Two are deceased. We have evidence techs still on scene gathering evidence canvassing the scene for additional witnesses as well as interviewing witnesses back at our station . Do we know what time this happened and sort of what the circumstances might be . We know it happened about 2 45 this morning. Hopefully well have a better idea why they were couldnt aggravating at that time. Could you tell us whether or not you have any lookout for suspects . Was this an incident of people who knew each other in this or do you have any kind of lookout for a suspect or suspects at this time. No, we dont, were asking anyone with any information to please come forward and let us know, no matter how small it we have a manhunt for suspect or suspects six people shop the. Confirmed two dead. How are the other four doing its moment to moment. As far as ive been notified. Just a reminder i did see theres a 20,000 reward. Do you want to give out the number while on the air with us its 866411tips. Please call us if you have any information, anonymity is assured. Lieutenant David Coleman from the Prince Georges County police, we appreciate you joining us with this update on this breaking news thank you. 7 02. Caitlin joining us. You did warn us it was going to be a beautiful sunday so i left do you run . No. Youre not a runner im not a runner, a marathoner but if i was, today would be a perfect morning. This would be olympic thats exactly what my question was. Good or bad for runners today . Yeah, i think it beats the alternative, which would be snow how about for us . They dont want it to be too warm i think i actually prefer cold weather i know youre shocked to find out i don what . Well deal with that later. You have the best chance of all three of us. I run the mall i do binch watching Caitlin Roth Fox 5 dc. These are mild temperatures starting off, 59 reagan national, 57 dulles, 60 at bwi. Thats been collecting its only 71 in hagerstown, 70 in west chester, all across the northeast, feeling the benefit of mild air that moved through yesterday. We saw High Temperatures in the 70s. We saw a nice comfortable evening, and we got clear skies overhead. You can see those showers up along the great lakes. That is along a cold front which will drop southward into our area later tonight. We do have rain in the forecast. However, i think it holds off until after dark. For start and then turn partly cloudy. This warmup thanks to High Pressure down towards our south with temperatures out ahead of the fronts at least getting into the 70s, many do touch 80. The record for today is 82. Well come awfully close. Getting 80 degrees for, what is the last days in october. Pretty remarkable. Enjoy the mild weather. Wont last forever. Halloween will be cooler. Up in your sevenday in a bit the Marine Corp Marathon kicking off this morning in a short while Alexandra Limon is live along the race in arlington with the latest. Alex, good morning to you. Reporter guys, good morning. Youre talking about this amazing weather. You know what . Its actually even a little humid and clammy. Im not 100 loving it. Take a look at these crowds. Getting ready for the start. But out of all of these runners we want talk to one of them. Mick, you are amazing, 13 years old. Typically you have to be 15 to run in this marathon, they made your age category. Tell me how you were able to get this. Im trying to become the youngest person to run a marathon in all 50 states to raise money for the foundation which tries to eliminate blindness. Today will be my 50th marathon raising money for them thats amazing, 50th but you havent done all 50 . You have run all over the world im the yuveng world to run a marathon in all seven continents and today is state 42 i hear you have Pretty Amazing sto why dont you share one of them with us i think a lot of crazy thinks went on during that, but one of the most was when, i was in answer the arctic ca. We had to run one in south america. They kind of sprung on us and said were going to go anyway. We did two in two days you did a marathon in an and did another one the next day yeah 13 years old. Youre doing this for amazingly a remarkable young man, im surely impressed because i probably cant even run six miles never mind 26. We will be out here all morning and bring you some more live updates as the race goes on. Annie, tom . . . Well, the World Series Game four last night, the Cleveland Indians won. 72. Tonight is a must win for chicago if they want to advance first pitch 8 00. The redskins on the road. They had to travel a little further than normal. Demand will play the cincinnatti bengals at Wembley Stadium in london but they will take the field without matt jones, he has been ruled out for the game. He did not practice all week after injuring his near in last week. There is good news to report. Well as josh norman did make the trip and are expected to play. It should be a very good game. With nine days to go until election day, a cloud hung over Hillary Clintons run for the white house has reemerged again. Were talking about the emails clinton now lashing out at the fbis decision to row open its investigation of the use of a private email serve whether or not she mishandled classified information. Meanwhile donald trump is bouncing oh news, hoping this will give him momentum in the Hillary Clinton and donald trump trading bar bes on the campaign trail with a little over a week left until election. Clinton attack to go trump for his rhetoric. I think its time for donald trump to stop fear mothering. Coming down hard over newly discovered emails on a device belonging to huma abedin. Scandal since watergate and its everybodys deepest hope that justice at last will be beautifully delivered. The emails were discovered as part of an investigation into Anthony Weiners. The emails found belong to huma and are likely duplicate of ones they got a year ago i hope they havent given huma because story. She knows whats going on Clintons Campaign is trying to shift the focus casting doubt on the timing of the announcement and calling for fbi director jim comey to release more information about exactly what his agents have found. Its pretty strange to put Something Like that that out with such Little Information right before an election. So we called on director comey away. Put it all out on the table. Right . Reporter were going to continue to talk about this on fox 5 news at the hill. A little bit later on this morning and Fox News Sunday with chris wallace. Its been an interesting election. Its going to be interesting every day right up i think until election day. Pretty excited throughout we havent had a boring day your show will be on at 7 30 this Morning Court taking up a case from virginia with national implications. Justices have agreed to take on a case addressing transgender rights and how it could set up a precedence for schools across the country. Monday were turning the lost into a halloween spectacular. You dont want to miss us monday for the first time the stranger Supreme Court court will weigh in over transgender rights the high court will be hearing arguments in case of a Virginia School board that wants to prevent a transgender teen from using the boys room. Garrett kenny reports. Reporter this case is significant for several reasons. One, marks the first time the Supreme Court agreed to take a case addressing transgender rights. It also could set up a precedent for School Districts across the country including those in more than a dozen other similar lawsuits are already playing out. Thus 17yearold gavin grim has become the face of transgender students across the country. After the court acted, he says in a statement, the only thing i ever asked for was the right to be treated like everyone else. The high school senior, who was born female but identifies as a male sued the Gloucester CountyVirginia School board for not allowing him to use the boys bathroom at his high school. In 2014, the district created that policy after receiving dprim using the boys bathroom. It now requires students to use the rest room that corresponds with their biological gender. The chairman of the Gloucester County school board praised the Supreme Court for agreeing to hear the case, saying, quote. The board looks forward to explaining to the court that its rest room and locker room policy balances the interest of all students and parents, the aclu argues that policy is a violation of federal law. Specifically title nine, which bars on the basis of gender. The Obama Administration has made that same argument and instruct to do School Districts across the country to drop such policies meanwhile on its face, this case is about transgender rights, the biggest question the court will answer is, in this instance, does the federal government have the right to impose its discretionary policies on the states. They will hear this case some time next year, which again raises the stake of the current in washington, garrett tenney, fox news. Time now 7 14. We welcome you back. And caitlin roth is here with warm look at the weather. We got the answer. Alexandra limon said the runners dont like this i feared that. It was almost too warm, humid and kind of comfortable for them. Which is so bizarre, Marine Corp Marathon late october last weekend of the month and you would not think as we take a live look outside that wed be talking about t runners. As everyone gears up, that race begins 45 minutes. Thats what were dealing with. Conditions humid and well check in with alexandria in just a minute. Shes previewing the event but first lets see weather. Warm today, obviously sunday were at 80 degrees. Close to record. You know that cant last too long. I know, whats the story . It will be cooler for tomorrow appropriately so for halloween. You want it to have a little crisp no kid wants to wear a jacket were begging you not to wear a jacket over the Halloween Costume hopefully they dont have to, but yes, it will be cooler however, the big tease is we start off november back to warmer temperatures. Its very bizarre. We had an october with record heat so many days below normal. We ended things out. The last day tomorrow will be closer to normal, but not today. Warm close to records as we should hit 80. That being said, th days in november look mild. Heres temperatures, 59 in washington. Its 65 in annapolis, look at this 70s showing up along the ridge top. 71 hagerstown, 70 winchester. When you compare to yesterday when we started in the 40s and 30s. The 24hour temperature change is remarkable. Maybe you were out late last night. Halloween parties, fell comfortable to be outside. It was beautiful. That warm air settled overhead time yesterday. 13 degrees warmer in washington. So warm air in place. We got cloud cover as well. Well be dry most of the day. Well see a decent amount of sunshine, cold front off towards the north and west bringing the rain showers, game five with the indians and cubs. That could be the last game of the series, theyre shower this evening. Sunshine today, pause at 5 00. Notice the reds in hagerstown. Thats a feistyy cold front which could bring heavier rain showers. This cold front was seasonally cold air is cutting into mild air obviously ahead of it. That clash can cause gusty moves over us, we clear out very fast. By early monday back to work and school. Halloween looks great. Lot of sunshine, any of the kids halloween parties will be fine, trick or treating forecasting calls for totally clear clouds. Our spook tackler, temperatures in the upper 50s. Cooler, breezier for health official. Lets check the sevenday forecast. 61 for the High Temperature tomorrow, monday, obviously, that. Mostly cloudy first day in november. Seasonal then we warm things up back into the 70s. Close to 80 degrees thursday. Sunny and cooler by friday. And as we head into the first week in november. Looks pretty nice. Warm weather this morning, lets find out how the runners are doing as they prepare for the marathon, Alexandra Limon is out there live this morning. Hi, alex. Reporter good morning, well, excitement from the marine corp bass excitement from the Marine Corp Marathon right after the break. Marathon right after the break. Youve got a thousand different fabrics to pick from. Very customizable. You can choose the back, you can choose the arm, you can choose the leg. Sglfrjsz. The Marine Corp Marathon is taking off this morning. Kicking off before 8 00 and Alexandra Limon is live. Have you been able to ask any of the runners what they think about this incredible weather . Reporter i have one of them right here. Weather . Is it ideal for running or a little too warm its ideal right now. Come noon today it will be way too hot. And youre actually joining me for a reason. This is dan tuchak, youre the father of the youngest participant in this marathon. Tell me a little bit about your story because youre actually your sons inspiration to get started running thats what he tells me. I run marathons, and i was lucky enough to have him at the finish ne old and came out and finished the race with me. It kind of gave him the big which you have. How many have you run . Ive done about 60 marathons at this point. That is amazing. Tell me a little bit about your son, when he got started running his first full marathon, how old was he . You were sharing with me as a parent what making that decision was like for you. He has done his first ready to do it. When you get out there and you, hit the pavement for 26 miles, theres a lot of pain involved. Sometimes you have to work through it. As a parent you dont like to see your child suffer but one of those things where hes doing it for greater good. Reporter thats amazing. I want to show you real quick. This huge crowd. Theres about 30,000 participants in this years Marine Corp Marathon. We spend the mni just a couple of them. As i mentioned dans son nick is 13, the youngest participant has run all around the world and we will have more of his story tonight on the 10 00 news or after the game, i should say. Tom, annie, back to you. We got 9yearolds running marathon, 13yearoldses running marathons around the world. Everybody theres a lot of road closures in parents where the Marine Corp Marathon are going to be. We have a lot on our website at fox5dc. Com. Check all of that. You want to be aware of those road closure as well as metro not making any adjustments. Again. Fox 5 dc is where you want to go, well be right back after the short break with more news . . Cozy up this fall with dunkins coffee and espresso flavors. Sip salty and sweet with our new salted caramel macchiato or drink in the season with the classic taste of pumpkin. Poor thing, dont do this i think thats a great costume right out of sleepy hallow. Reminds me of jerry. That does it for our news, fox 5 on the hill is coming up next. Joining us today we have debbie heinz Trial Attorney and founder of legal speaks. Com. Shes going to weigh in on this pretty big october surprise. Days before the election of the first, we want to give a shout out to these donkey elephant and election ballot cookies. Thanks for that. Love to start the day with cookies. Thank you. There you go. Never too early. Never too early. Taking a leg off the donkey and the sunglasses off and these are delicious this Bombshell Development with less than two weeks to go before election. We learned the fbi is once again looking at emails relating to Hillary Clintons use of that back in july, the agency cleared her of wrongdoing. Now, the fbi says its learned of the existence of new uncovered emails not found on the server. Of course, donald trump waste nod time responding. This is the biggest political scandal since watergate. And its everybodys deepest hope that justice at last will be beautifully delivered. Hillary has nobody but herself to blame for her mounting legal difficulties. Her criminal action was willful, deliberate, intentional. Thats what donald trump had to say about all of this. I want to talk about the legal implications are. Not. Obviously, well start with you. How serious is this from a legal implication given the fact that back over the summer, comey said they were not filing charges of a criminal nature in regards to this event . Well, you know, right now, since we dont know anything from fbi director comey, this is more talking loud and saying nothing. His letter thats what worry best at. Thats what were best at yes. Talking loud and s nothing his letter literally said nothing. It doesnt have any implications other than the fact it has serious implications potentially for the election due to his timing of bringing it out at this point. What would be, i mean, for this really did obviously come as a surprise for all of us. Would he sit and wait just because of the election if there is a reason . I have the letter. He says he agrees that the fbi should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review the emails to determine whether information. If that is real, if there was no election, i mean, would there be any question about his decision to move forward seems crazy to wait. Two things going on, the timing of it and the investigation. The criminal investigation always ongoing, even when its closed, think the civil rights investigations where they were closed and decade later, they found new information. Thats number one. Number two, its the timing of it. The Justice Department, whether republican orde office, they have a policy that says that you refrain from doing anything that might impact the outcome of an election. Thats exactly what hes trying to do. The timing but like i said, the investigations are always open just because theres for instance, a Murder Investigation and you closed it but now you found new information ten years later and say my god we closed it. What can we do . But its the timing that is the did not want this to get out. Comey decided to move forward with the rational i told congress i would keep them updated. Do you think comey should have done what he did friday, sent the letter and number two, do you expect any other information to come out between now and election day . Thats the what the clinton camp is saying, you got to release more information. Its funny because this is the one thing both cams are agreeing on both republicans and democrats. Bring us more little letter was not enough. I dont think he had an obligation to publicly make it known. Even though he was not in a meeting with loretta lynch. He was with top attorney general officials. Of which. Thats where his office comes under. Hes not a lone wolf, hes under the attorney generals office. When the higher ups there say, no, you dont do this, we never do this to impact an election. He should have just kept his mouth closed. He should have looked. He should have definitely be investigating anything. Keeping your mouth closed in this election cycle in just a couple of months ago he came out publicly and gave a statement saying they were not charging Hillary Clinton in regard to these emails. Then, if he were to come up later after this election and find out the public finds out, that this was going on, right before the election, wouldnt that, in fact, on the one hand be you made a big show about saying Hillary Clinton was in charge then youre not going to tell anybody if new information emerges ten days before the election that wouldnt be unfair were all acting as if he hasnt looked at the emails. Even though he hasnt given us information, he did not get a stack of emails. I can tell you that as former prosecutor he knows whats in the emails. He didnt just get a stack and i have no idea. Think about it. We would be reading it ferociously. For him to come out and not to say more if theres something significant, that implicates criminal activity. If theres something that doesnt implicate he should have said more. I say he should have kept his mouth closed. Thats the policy of the Justice Department isnt he in a no win situation . On the one hand, you had the democrats praising him throwing him under the bus. Now, the republicans are saying, thank goodness. Director comey stepped in here and the democrats are outraged. Isnt he the one guy trying to play it down the middle and getting killed both sides for it . No matter what he says i think if youre giving him the benefit of the doubt. Saying my god, he was stuck i still stick behind whats the policy of the attorney generals office, which in the Justice Department to refrain from doing anything that could impact an election and clearly this is something that could impact an election. In that regard, he should have kept his mouth shut lets take a listen to what Hillary Clinton had to say. In spite of this controversy, clinton went on to campaign in a star studded event in and clinton had this to say to voters. Donald trump is out there is, stoking fear, disgracing our democracy and insulting one group of americans after another. Let me ask you this . Are we going to let donald trump get away with that . Youre right. Different kind of change where we come together. We grow together. Because you know what . We are stronger together [cheers and applause] that looked like every bad seat. I ever had. Theres an umbrella in front of me, somebody standing up. You know one of the things that this does though is Hillary Clinton really now has to turn this narrative back around again, back over to donald trump. Donald trump has faced these questions about his taxes. These questions about, you know, allegations of sexual assault. From a legal standpoint, it appears that donald trump has not broken any laws in regards to his taxes. That hes made himself available to the breaks that he has been given. But when youre in a situation the Clinton Campaign to empty every last little piece of Opposition Research they have on donald trump i think so but at the same time, weve seen a lot already and i think that Hillary Clinton, with this email investigation, i think its very hard to get any type of message. Thats why i do think its unfair to voters and the Hillary Clinton campaign and i do think that theyve got to do we have to have more information, because as debbie was saying, theres probably something siif but with trump, i think Closing Argument has to be more positive than negative because this is a nasty election and if its too negative and people wont come out to vote debbie, based on your experience and knowledge with the timeline, do you think it is unreasonable to expect to see any of that, to learn anything more so that maybe voters would have a more informed decision rather than just this what if maybe its really bad, maybe its nothing, maybe theyre the just through Anthony Weiner . Whats your take i think id be very surprised if comey came out and said anymore than what he said. I think he thought about it. Hes a political person, he knows what that implication of what he did. He its not like he put it out there and i dont think he thought maybe i should give them more. Do you think he would have done that in the beginning this is such a terribl campaign. Do they have resource . Could they sue the fbi . This is not fair or just apply political pressure as theyre doing . Democrats have been ripping comey for the last 24 to, 48 hours. I think that what they need to do with what is it olympic are are we down to nine days before the election . She needs to get out and vote. Thats what the democrats will you say its unfair. If were looking at a situation where, you know, if you believe the polls. Well talk about that, if Hillary Clinton gets elected and then after that, lets say it were to come out then, that the fbi was looking at these Anthony Weiner emails, and by the way, thats a job you dont want. Couldnt you foresee a situation where you could have a new round of legal challenges to that election or leg this investigation . If they were somehow trying to keep this quiet . Wouldnt it be worse after next tuesday to find out after the fact. I think it would be better to find out at least i dont think they have to close the investigation but i think whos the target of it . What are they looking at they never did close the investigation what is it . What are we talking about . We dont know what it is. Its got to be something significant to this. Comey said never mind. Its something minor. With that. I dont have any i dont have much faith in the fbi director based on things done in the past by jay edgar hoover. Im not making any assumptions that what he said has any validity whatsoever or that it is significant. I just dont im not going to make that assumption. I think that he should have said more, were all jumping to conclusions. Im saying it is what it is. He found all we can go with one thing is interesting, Hillary Clinton held a press conference and the quote things like this is true that most people can agree to, she said i think people a long time ago made up their minds about the emails. Well leave it at that. Debbie thank you for joining us today. Heres a question. Are early voters having voter remorse . Many people we talked to say their votes cant be swayed no matter what happened. Take a listen. One bit. At this point in time i have my decision made im tired of the emails. I think we just have to vote predictions. Well, in several states, including new york, pennsylvania, louisiana, minnesota and wisconsin, absentee can change their votes prior to election day, we were talking about before the show. I cant imagine going and taking the time to vote early and then showing going and saying, never mind i change my mind. I donkn you that anyone would do that not only surprising. It should not be allowed. When you cast a ballot, thats your vote. That was my impression. I didnt know that you never done early voting . Never dont you work on election day i go in a little bit later because its a long night. No, i think its very its very odd but i do know somebody who did vote early and texted me and said maybe i should have waited. Wow. Learned from the fbi . Yes. Interesting. You know, because i had a question, can she pardon herself . We dont know whats going on and the answer is yes, she can par done herself what a world we live in. I live with fomo. Its a serious condition, fear of missing out. Tom thats why im here to share young expressions i learn from my young friends. Thats why i cant vote early. I feel even full of like you know your decision, where youre going to be, i never voted early either. I cant imagine i guess, fact i can change my vote helps, but im not sure. I just feel like im going to wait. Lets talk about polls, do you know what these are . Whats that these are the 16 polls that everyone of these, im not going to go through. All of them had Anthony Brown as your governor of the state. We know lost by ten by five you know who the only guy who said they were going to win by five . Larry hogan and hes our governor in maryland. Why is this important . Sometimes polls like it or not, can be wrong. What we did this week, we talked to chris perk directors of wpa opinion researcher, his was the only poll, the only one that got the 2014 maryland governors race wrong. We want to know why can polls sometimes be wrong people like me, live or die based on our criticize. If im inaccurate, i dont get hired again. Governor hogan would not hire us back if we had been inaccurate in his election. So i do believe that political polls, sometimes theyre taken paid for on behalf of the candidate. If we release a survey, we know were being judged against those results in the future. They were right. Everybody else was wrong. Chris says, the reason being is because their poll looks at likelihood. And that far too many polls these days, the ones that appear in newspapers and such are looking at registered voters. How much faith should people put into these preelection polls that seem to be Hillary Clinton as the next president of the United States i dont think you can believe all the polls but the composite with the average i think its going to be good, in 2012, they were spot on. Romney thought he was going to go win but the polls said, nate silver said hes not going to win. I think since that time, we had that race, the governors race in kentucky. We dont know about turnout. Poll. We should go dark for a little bit. I think polls make people stay home thats interesting. If this election is stressing you out. Youre not alone. How are you unwinding . Im going to tell you later on hill comes back after this. This hill comes back after this. This fios is not cable. Were wired differently. Hill comes back after this. This we guarantee to make switching easier. 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Itedhealth group built for better health. . . Welcome back on the hill this sunday coming at you a little bit earlier this morning, it was rough. We get early anyway we do but not quite this early. We might all know the answer but has the election brought stress hundreds of people came together on the National Mall to try and get rid of that stress by doing yoga. Take a listen. Yoga is a great stress reliever. Especially this time of in order for you to have the movement through that stress. Everyone has, you know, different sides of the ballot coming at them at once. I think it grounds me allows me to think of people not just it helps you put your mind in a better space to think things more clearly the intangible parts of our experience that bind us. Bring it back in. One of you is going to start to lean forward. The pen on top is going to let go. We want to find a nice stretch. Heart is opening beautiful sky its been a long, long election. Youre standing its exactly what Everybody Needs right now. I cant believe people went out there to do yoga in the freezing cold. They get up to do that i get it. I think i run i run to destress from covering just the election and wanting to do a good job. Theres so much pressure. I think physical fitness is a good thing. For me, i dont do yoga. How about you, bob i do yoga not yet but im only in my mid 40s we can do warrior poses to work im irish i my stress and i work. Headsup if you wanted to snap a picture of yourself with the ballot . Do research first. You might find yourself in jail. You dont want that. Heres the really big news, Justice Timberlake is not not going to jail over his ballot he posted this in memphis earlier this week in dc, theres no band but Election Officials discourage people from taking them. Nothing in virginia law prohibits voters from taking pictures of themselves, voters or their ballot in the polling place. The law bands electronic, even media members arent allowed to photograph a ballot that shows how someone is voting. I can be able to take a photo of you voting but why cant i take a selfie i dont think bob. You want to see your selfie. It is funny, tom, weve been covering the election andpology locations. It is interesting, ive been in maryland and dc for i saw them in maryland turn off those cell phones, you cant bring them in there and dc we did our live shot inside the judiciary voting. Ten years from now well be voting on our phones. It will be a moot point. Earlier this morning, we want to remind you Fox News Sunday is up next and its the redskins facing off against the bengals on fox 5. Thank you for joining us. Fios is not cable. Were wired dierently. We guarantee to make switching easier. Well show up on time. Youre right on time. As promised, to install fios and set up the wifi that janet, jamie, jenny, jemma and jasmine need on their birthday. Thank you. For all their new devices. You cant break me. You want a piece of cake . Switching to fios is easier than ever. This is your last chance to get 100meg internet, im chris wallace. With just over a week until election day, a campaign bombshell. The fbi reopens its investigation into Hillary Clintons private emails. They are reopening the case into her criminal and conduct that threatens the security of the United States of america. The American People deserve to get the full andomplete facts immediately. The republican Vice President ial nominee, indiana governor mike pence, responds to the stunning announcement. We commend the fbi for having the courage to reopen this case. Because no one is above the law. Well talk with pence live, d well ask the chair of the