good morning. big apple und. president obama heads to new york tonight for a $30,000-per-couple fund-raiser, and a third of the attendees will be from wall street, the same people the white house has been battering over big bonuses. is that a good idea? we'll ask former house speaker newt gingrich. "richard heene psyience detectives," more evidence that balloon dad was driven to become a reality television star. according to tmz, he even commissioned his own theme song. ♪ watch richard heene psyience detectives ♪ >> this morning, one of heene's former business associates talks out about how they discussed a ufo-themed publicity stunt earlier this year. and well done. a little girl's beloved dog pulled to safety after spending the night trapped nearly 35 feet down a well. the rescue and reunion caught on tape today, tuesday, october 20th, 2009. captions paid for by nbc-universal television and good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a tuesday morning. i'm matt lauer. >> and i'm ann curry in for meredith this morning. good morning, everybody. $30,000 per couple for a fund-raiser. >> it's a lot. >> some serious ca-ching. >> no question about it. obviously -- and especially the timing, right? >> no question about the timing. >> yeah. >> it raises a lot of questions, matt. >> the president is hoping to drum up support and the cash that ann's talking about for fell democrats, this ahead of november's election and beyond, but should he really be reaching his hand out to wall street people, especially after his administration haseen so critical of all those big bonuses expected to be handed out at the end of the year? we're going to talk about that with newt gingrich, the former republican speaker of the house, in just a couple of minutes. also coming up, matt, we've got the father of anna nicole smith, larry birkhead, anna nicole smith's daughter. he claims that prosecutors suggest he ramp up his testimony at a hearing involving anna nicole's death from a drug overdose. we'll get the latest on that. and jenna bush hager will join us to tell us about a unique after-school project that has one group of teens out to create an eco-friendly car that could just net them millions of dollars. we'll fill you in on that. but let's begin with president obama headlining a major democratic fund-raiser right here in new york city tonight. nbc's savannah guthrie's at the white house with more. savannah, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, matt. the president will be on the fund-raising circuit this week, raising money for democratic candidates for governor and for congress. tonight, as you said, he flies to new york city for a high-dollar event, a rally and a dinner that goes $15,000 per plate. and some are questioning the timing of this, because about a third of those attending will be from wall street, the very industry the white house has really been slamming lately for those big bonuses. but actually, if you look at the facts, as "the new york times" reports, only about a handful of executives from those big, bailed-out firms -- about six -- will be in attendance. and if you look at election records, in fact, donations from wall street to the democrats are dramatically down, and the white house says there's a good reason for that. they've really been fighting hard for financial regulation reform, something the industry has actively been lobbying against. of course, we should also expect any day now to hear from the administration's pay czar, which plans to rein in bonuses for those firms that are still on the government bailout dole, the ones that have paid back the money, not a lot of government can do. again, the white house says, look, republicans are in comparison raising by far more sums from wall street. and as one aide put it to me, look, wall street knows our position. our position hasn't changed. if they want to come to a fund-raiser and donate to the democratic party, that's fine. our position doesn't change. just one of those occasions, matt, where politics sometimes makes for some strange bed fellows. >> you got that right. savannah guthrie, thank you very much. newt gingrich is the former republican speaker of the house and co-author of a new book kuld "to try men's souls: a novel of george washington and the fight for american freedom." newt, nice to see you. good morning. >> it's good to be back with you again. >> sort this out for me. here we've got the president of the united states and members of the administration going out there and bashing wall street executives on almost a daily basis for these offensive bonuses and greed, and he's going to go to this fund-raiser tonight, and some -- not a lot, but some of those same wall street executives will be in attendance, and the price tag's $30,000 per couple. is it a problem? >> well, look, i don't know that it's a direct problem for the president, but it does raise for the american people this troubling notion that you end up with billions of dollars in debt or taxes going to very large firms, who happen to end up giving the president lots of money. and the fact is, some of the firms were not directly getting government money got billions of dollars indirectly in ways that were very clever. these are smart people with lots of money. i think the president will weather it, but i think it's just one more example of the gap betwn his rhetoric and what happens in reality. >> well, is it populism, newt? is the white house trying to get on the side of this anger that is obviously out there in the public and try and say we're on your side but without really backing it up with action? >> no, look, i think that this is an administration that promises transparency while they write bills in secret. ey promise accountability while they create zarz who are unaccountable. they promise a deep commitment to afghanistan while they're totally confused in public about why they're doing. why would they be different on wall street than they have been everywhere else? there's no real connection. and this is part of why we wrote "to try men's souls" to try to bring george washington back in the public dialogue. this country was founded on a sense of firm intent and firm integrity. there's almost no connection between this administration's language and what it actually does. to a degree that's pretty surprising, frankly. >> let me talk about republicans for a second. we've got this health care reform process going on in congress right now. democratic leaders are trying to take these two bills in the senate and the three bills out of the house and combine them for a final version. the republicans seem to be intent on just simply opposing this, delaying it, derailing it. they don't have the votes to stop it. is that an appropriate strategy at this late hour? >> no, i don't think so. i think that the democrats make it impossible to be bipartisan because everythg they're doing they're doing in secret and they're doing it in a language that's -- >> let's stick with the republicans, though. what's their strategy in this? >> i was going to get to that. i think the correct republican strategy would be to offer a better reform. i helped found the center for health transformation, and for five years, we've offered a whole series of ideas that are better reform. goveor bobby jindal has ideas for better reform. governor mitch daniel has ideas for better reform. i think the republicans in the house and senate would be much better off if they had a clear, alternative reform to the democrats and if they were offering the american people a real alternative that reform the system without raising taxes and destroying jobs. >> what is the message to republicans in this book you've written? you're talng about an episode in american history, the american revolution, a low point for george washington, the battle of trenton. he's crossing the delaware, unsure of the beatings he's taken, men are deserting his army. is the message all these years later, to republicans, for example, even when things look their darkest, it's time to push forward? >> i think not just for republicans, it's for all americans. we were at mt. vernon last night launching the book, and i encouraged every american to go to mt. vernon, because george waington is an example of courageous patriotism and determination and tenacity. of the 2,500 men who crossed the delaware in a snowstorm in the ice at ght, one-third did not have boots. they were marching with their feet wrapped in burlap bags. they left a trail of blood, but they loved freedom so much that they were willing to sacrifice everything in order for you and i to be free. i think the real message of this book is that freedom requires courage, that courage requires leadership and that people like washington do make an enormous difference. >> one of the ways you're promoting the book is a twitter enactment.yu=ññ general washington is going to go on twitter and basically talk about his every move crossing the delaware. that doesn't sound like a good idea for a general in the midst of battle. >> that's obviously a way of drawing attention, but we have the german opponent, general washington and we have a private from new jersey, all three twittering a letting us know for 24 hours starting this sunday what they're going to do. i think it's the first twitter enactment ever done. >> think you're right. it's creative. newt, great to see you, thank you very much. >> looking forward to hearing their tweets. now let's get a check othe morning's top stories from natalie morales, in for me at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning, matt and ann. explosions killed at least four people at a university in islamabad. attackers struck a women's cafeteria and law department at the internation islamic university. today a government space scientist goes to court facing spy charges. stewart nozette is accused of trying to sell classified secrets to an fbi agent posing as an israeli intelligence agent. this morning, a swiss court reaffirmed an earlier ruling and refused to release filmmaker roman polanski on bail. he's wanted in the u.s. where he pleaded guilty to having sex with an underage girl in 1977, then fled before sentencing. overseas markets are mostly higher this morning on wl street. trish regan is at the new york stock exchange. trish, more earnings news driving the markets there today. absolutely. a lot of earnings, dow components coming out today. very busy week on the earnings front. now, keep an eye on apple. apple reported after the closing bell, had very strong numbers, much stronger than people had anticipated. and this was thanks in part to back-to-school shopping for mac computers, also iphones and ipods. the other one that came out this morning, dupont, chemical company. it did beat earnings estimates, but its sales were pretty low. so, it beat really thanks to cost-cutting. finally, oil's one to watch. it's priced in dollars, keeps going up, that price of oil. back to you. >> trish regan at the new york stock exchange, thank you. well, tonight it's game four of the american league championship series with the yankees now leading the angels two games to one. last night the angels came from behind with a dramatic 5-4 win in 11 innings. and in the national league, the phillies now lead the dodgers three games to one after rallying with two runs in the bottom of the ninth to beat the dodgers last night 5-4. game five's tomorrow night. and a coyote found itself in an ugly spot when it survived after getting hit by a car near the nevada/utah border. it got stuck inside the grill of the car, then rode that way for more than eight hours and hundreds of miles. a rescuer finally got it out and took it to an animal center, where it was being treated. and the wiley coyote actually got out of its cage and hasn't been seen since. so, must be doing well. 7:11 right now. you're up to date. poor thing. back over to matt, ann and al. >> but it was well enough to escape is amazing. >> that's right. well, it was an acme cage. and there was a roadrunner driving it. >> how do you find a roadrunner joke in all that? >> dear me. >> oh, boy. >> could have been worse. could have been an anvil! >> there you go. >> anyway -- >> there's a whole generation, they don't even know what i'm talking about here. >> no idea. no idea. >> yeah. all right, let's take a look, see what's going on. it is a cold start to the morning down through the southeast on into the mid-atlantic states. frost advisories and freeze warnings, temperatures in the 30s down through georgia, 30s on into the mid-atlantic states. but the good news is, temperatures will rebound rather nicely, climbing up into the loi good morning. sun rise in about ten minutes. it's freezing in some areas but most of maryland is above freezing. farther north and west, it's mid-30s and near freezing. temperatures climbing into the >> and that's your latest weather. ann? al, thanks. now the latest on the so-called balloon boy saga that police in colorado are now calling a hoax. in a moment, we'll be speaking with richard heene's former business associate who claims that heene told him that he was planning a media stunt involving a ufo. but first, nbc's lee cowan is in ft. collins, colorado, with new details about the case. hey, lee, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, ann. so much has been made about richard heene's desire to get a reality show. he even composed his own theme music and had it ready to go. it all started when he and his wife met in acting school in los angeles, and authorities here say that explains a lot. these are publicity shots taken of richard heene years ago by a former landlord. she took them, she says, as a favor for heene, but soon wished she hadn't. >> the next thing i knew, they were gone and they moved out. >> reporter: she says the struggling actor and his wife abandoned the home in 2007, leaving behind a $6,000 repair bill. >> this is going to make me sweat. >> reporter: but heene did find acting work, of sorts, both in front of and behind the camera. the website radaronline posted this clip of what they say was one of his first reality show ventures. they say that's him on the couch. it was a pilot about pranks. in this case, a man in a bloody bandage is trying to get a manicure. >> i would like to get these things fine-tuned. >> reporter: it didn't go over very well, and neither did his latest performance. the larimer county sheriff last night said on fox that the community is outraged over the fact that his errant balloon tied up the public for hours. >> i think that's why the public is so upset about this and wants blood, basically from theñ family. >> reporter: especially since the whole thing, according to the sheriff, may have been designed for nothing more than to turn heene into a celebrity. robert thomas, a former business associate, told docker.com heene was getting desperate and together the two of them discussed a ufo-related scheme, and some fear even now he may still get his celebrity status. >> you see other cooky families out there, and i think at the end of the day, viewers would still watch this family on a reality show. >> reporter: now, back to those theme songs, ann. richard heene hired somebody back in 2005 to help him compose these reality show theme songs. take a listen to one of them. ♪ ♪ if you want to learn the mysteries of how things work ♪ ♪ weather, the planets, the whole universe ♪ ♪ tune into the show with chilly effective, watch "richard heene psyience detectives" ♪ >> reporter: richard heene not only helped compose those songs, but in one of them, he was also playing bass as well. ann? >> lee cowan, thanks. robert thomas is with us now. robert, good morning. >> good morning. >> you say you worked with richard heene for about two months earlier this year on proposals for a reality tevision show. describe richard and your working relationship with him. >> well, i met richard because i'm an entrepreneur and i've been working on some renewable energy concepts. so, basically, i reached out to richard because i saw "the psyience detectives," which was a youtube series that he had, andí!%r i was interested in collaborating at the time with him, so. >> mm-hmm. and how would you describe richard heene? >> richard, you know, he has his positives and his negatives. obviously, right now, it appears the negatives outweigh the positives. but he's a very creative individual, very hyperactive. unfortunately, i think he's a little driven by fame and really interested in kind of promoting himself. i think he had, you know, the ego from "wife swap" and appearing several times on "wife swap," and i think that, you know, he really needed to focus on his family. >> you say that the two of you worked together in outlining ideas in hopes of generating a lot of buzz, including a potential ufo-based media stunt, saying "this would be the most significant ufo-related news event to take place since the roswell crash of 1947, and the result will be a dramatic increase in local and national awareness about the heene family, our reality series as well as the ufo phenomenon in general." did you and richard not think that this media stunt might cross lines, even possibly legal lines? >> well, let me clarify something first right off the bat. i had absolutely nothing to do with the hoax. i had absolutely nothing to do with the conception of this. this was all richard's thinking. my job in the whole thing was basically to -- you know, i collaborated with richard because i was interested in, you know, collaborating ideas with somebody who was interested in science and technology, and i, you know, took on the role of kind of being an intern for him. and i had absolutely no prior knowledge of this event taking place until my friend actually called me and told me to turn on the news. >> and when your friend called you and told you to turn on the news and you saw a ufo-like balloon flying through the air and you heard that the richard heene family was involved, what went through your mind? >> first thing that came to my mind was who would possibly do something like this? it has to be richard heene. so, when i actually saw this on tv, you know, i didn't realize how serious this was until later on in the day. i was actually helping my friends move. and you know, as the news stories progressed and the buzz sort of built, and then watching falcon actually say on tv, well, "we did this for the show," that's when all of my questions were answered and i knew that i had to come forward, because y know, i care about those kids. i really do. and i think that making young kids lie about something for their benefit, i think that's absolutely wrong, so. >> you have sold your story to the website called gawker.com for an undisclosed amount of money. given all the difficulties that you just described, do you think that you should be profiting from this? >> well, let me just start that off by telling you that, you know, i'm 25 years old. i'm still in college. i'm not really interested -- i'm not a part of this industry, you know? i mean, i've never sold a story before, but i was told that people sell stories like this, you know, for interviews, so you know, it was a very small amount of money. i'm not going to disclose what the amount was, but i will say that it's very insignificant. it's probably way less than most people think. and you know, i ctainly wasn't in it for the profit. i was in it to get the truth out there, which i think is the most important thing. >> some might ask why you didn't call authorities sooner when you thought at first that richard heene had to be involved in something like this even befe you heard his name attached. why didn't you? >> well, i didn't realize how significant this was. as the stories progressed and i started hearing about all the people around the world that were praying for this lost child, you know, and the thousands of dollars of taxpayers' money that were being spent, you know, searching for this child, that's when i started to kind of think about, you know, what i should really do and what i could do to reach out. so, i actually contacted the police and went ahead and met with them in denver and interviewed with them. so, they know everything that i know. >> all right, well, robert thomas, thank you so much for talking with us this morning. thank you. >> no problem. thank you. and still ahead, a surprising claim from the father of anna nicole smith's daughter. did prosecutors try to influence his testimony at a hearing connected to anna nicole's death by accidental overdose? we'll get the latest on that. but first, this is "today" on nbc. still ahead, the touching rescue of a 4-year-old girl's dog caught on tape. plus, california's maria shriver lets men have their say. good morning. updating the news at 7:26. police are looking for a suspect near denny road. shots rang out and a teen is recovering in the hospital. and firefighters in arlington are investigating an early-morning house fire in the block of ninth street. a temporary shelter has been set up for the victim. we're going to take a look at your weather good morning. it's frosty and cold. it will be gone in the next hour or so and temperatures around the region are near freezing in many locations in the rural area, temperatures rapidly climb and by noontime, upper 60s and lots of sunshine. mostly sunny and milder. showers late friday and saturday. jerry, how is the traffic now? >> we have problem coming out of germantown. an accident just below 118 but before montgomery village is taking away the left lane. several vehicles are involved in that. elsewhere, jamming is occurring near the beltway. >> thank you, jerry. a reminder that news 4 is also connected to you on 7:30 now on a tuesday morning, october 20th, 2009. stop and take a look at some nice people out on our plaza this morning, enjoying what's supposed to be a really pretty day here in the northeast. hopefully, it's nice where you're waking up as well. we'll go outside and greet those people in just a little while. meanwhile, inside studio 1a, i'm matt lauer alongside ann curry, who is filling in while meredith is taking some time off. just ahead, a girl, a pet and a touching rescue caught on tape. >> i know, it's a great story, matt. 4-year-old olivia's beloved dog molly fell down a well and became trapped overnight some 35 feet under ground. well, thankfully, this story has a happy ending, because just ahead, we'll be talking with the little girl and the man who saved molly. she can't stop petting her, according to her father. olivia's so excited about molly. >> she says, pop, get your hands off molly. also ahead, has the real estate market bottomed out? there are a lot of conflicting signs, like why are prices going up, despite a huge inventory of unsold homes? barbara corcoran gives us an insider's take on what's going on in just a couple minutes. and later, we've got jenna bush hager. she's telling us about some teenage investors who are pitting their after-school project against fortune 500 companies in a competition to build the car of the future. but let us begin with a strange, new development at the preliminary hearing connected to anna nicole smith's accidental overdose death involving the father of anna nicole's daughter, dannielynn. nbc's michelle kosinski is in los angeles. michelle, good morning. what can you tell us? >> reporter: good morning, matt. for two days, prosecutors put larry birkhead on the stand, but all of a sudden, it seemed they were not happy with his testimony against anna nicole smith's two doctors and howard k. stern. they ended up turning on him, their own witness. larry birkhead told the court a prosecutor had been expressing her feelings that dannielynn, his 3-year-old daughter with anna nicole, was surely developmentally affected by anna's drug use while pregnant and that birkhead ought to read to her. he said that offended him, because dannielynn is flourishing, but that the prosecutor went on, telling birkhead he seemed to be standing up for howard k. stern and that someone needed to speak for anna. he said it seems prosecutors were trying to get him to ramp up his testimony. >> i just want the truth. i'm not sitting here -- i didn't come to court saying i want to throw somebody to the fire or take up for anybody. i just came here just to tell what i knew in my time frame and my time line. >> reporter: but it all went downhill from there. prosecutors, annoyed, said birkhead had made stronger statements in the past that anna nicole would pop vicodin several times a day, wash pills down with booze, and that in his words, "sometimes i didn't even know if she was going to live, and they kept bringing more and more drugs into the house." >> giving testimony advice is really close to the ethical line. telling somebody to ramp it up, that's what you do to your star shortstop, not your star witness. >> reporter: birkhead said he believed anna nicole was hooked on meds, but her response was always, "i'm not a drug addict." "she would show me a bottle and say these are from doctors." and that is a question -- what did her doctors know and what did they do about it? in 2006, a pregnant anna quit all of her drugs cold on her own but ended up hospitalized with severe withdrawal, according to the specialist who treated her. but who cou not find any real evidence of the pain or the bipolar disorder anna claimed to have. dr. natalie mullen says she asked anna's doctor, san de sanr if she had an addiction issue and he tried a lot of meds, limiting her to methadone and xanax, adding that anna was the one opposed to rehab. "she just wouldn't engage. it would be, give me my medications and leave me alone." some gray areas here. was anna nicole smith an addict or drug-dependent? that matters to the charges here. was she overprescribed or were they trying to manage her demand and that she took too many? by the way, if you ever doubted the widespread interest in this case, it came out that media outlets have so far paid larry birkhead more than $2 million for his time. tt? >> all right, michelle kosinski in los angeles this morning. michelle, thank you very much. let's get another check of the weather now from mr. roker. >> all right, mr. lauer, ms. curry, thanks so much. and we've got some friends here from alaska. this is actually ice from a glacier alaska? >> yes, it is! a chop of glacier ice we brought to you. >> well, thank you very much. our director's going to use that to make martinis. thank you. that's very cool. and we've got these folks just married from mississippi state! mississippi state has a broadcast meteorology degree. actually, i should go down there, maybe learn something. let's check your weather, see what's happening. ice! and this is moisture from tropical storm rick. it's actually going to be making its way into the southeast later this week and going to be causing some heavy rain down through texas, and that rain will make its way into the east as we head toward the end of the week. rest of the country today, we've got beautiful weather up and down the east coast. little on the chilly side. got some beautiful weather on the west coast as well, but in between, rain from the plains all the way back into theiiiiiii good morning. dress for a cold morning but then prepare for a mild afternoon. a few clouds are coming through and it's freezin across virginia and west virginia. just a little above freezing and 43 in washington right near the bay. temperatures in the low to mid-40s. highs today will soar into the upper 50s with lots of sunshine and milder today and thursday. friday, increasing clouds >> and don't forget, you can check your weather 24/7 on the weather channel on cable or weather.com online. ann? >> all right, al, thanks. if you've flown lately, you know the price of a ticket is rarely all you'll pay. there are fees for luggage, leg room, even headsets and sandwiches now these days. into this issue. good morning, tom. >> reporter: good morning to you. passengers for the airlines, passenger revenue this year with total passengers down 9%, down another 4% to 5% next year, with all that lost revenue, the airlines are doing something to try to make up for it. they're adding fees, as you well know, lots of fees. it doesn't matter if the flight is domestic or international, flying isn't what it used to be. the biggest common complaint, all those fees. >> you see an advertised price, then once they add on all the different service charges, it's quite a different thing. >> reporter: from luggage and leg room to pillows and headsets, sandwiches and sodas, the airlines are squeezing every last penny out of every last passenger. >> the most ridiculous one recently is the baggage fee, which is annoying, because now no one's trying to check their bag. >> reporter: the newest fee, a $10 holiday surcharge in the u.s. so, will the airlines ever abandon all of these extra fees? not a chance, say the experts. it amounts to a tremendous amount of money. in 2008, for airlines worldwide, $11 billion in extra revenue. it seems the days of free checked luggage have gone the way of the smoking section. >> airlines are really depending on fees in order to stay in business. either that or higher fares or airlines are going to go under. >> reporter: in the u.s., the airlines have collected more than $2 billion i extra fees so far this year. with american, delta, continent continental, united, us airways and virgin all charging to check a first bag. and every u.s. carrier charged us to take a second, with one big exception. >> they fly free! >> reporter: bags still fly free on southwest, but continental airlines says the extra fees are critical to turning a profit. >> we're roughly a $15 billion a year business. 1% or 2% or 3% can be a significant swing to the bottom line. >> reporter: while internationally, ryanair has pushed the airline fees to the extreme, charging for infants, printing a ticket at the airport, even talking about charging to use the restroom. the big question for the industry -- are the airlines running the risk of alienating passengers who feel they're being nickelled and dimed at every turn? 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>> yes, it is, but what's great for everybody when wall street is happy is it creates a little note of optimism, makes some people think, well, is the worst behind us? but where it directly affects the market is for the higher-priced homes, particularly with those year-end bonuses that a lot of people were not expecting. >> this question of a bottom, you hear people say this all the time, has it hit the bottom? i know there are several reasons why you don't believe it's hit a bottom. what's the number one reason? >> the number one reason is there's been a huge uptick in sales. it's gone up 7% recently. also, the average home in america has gone up for the first time in three years. also -- i'm sorry, my last one -- i'll give you three stats. beyond that, 80% of all of the markets in america right now are having increases in the average home price. that's a great majority. it's hard to argue against that. >> why are the prices going up when there is so much unsold inventory on the side or in the market there? >> well, there's a lot of unsold inventory. in fact, there are so many homes for sale, people are really worried about the new surplus of homes coming in, and rightfully so. right now, for every two homes you have on the market, you have a third person who hasn't put their house on the market because they're afraid. >> because those sellers are on the sideline thinking i don't want to get in here and sell it at a loss. >> or they've tried to sell it and couldn't or rente their home. but meanwhile, they're on the sideline, and that's a potential problem. >> mortgage defaults are on the rise and many adjustable mortgages are about to reset. that's never good news. >> never good news. in fact, one-third of all adjustab adjustable rate mortgages in america are going to reset in the next 24 months. a lot of them won't qualify because they don't have the income or their house is under water, and that means more defaults into the real estate market. >> even with all you've said, i don't understand, does that mean there are bargainsut there or not? >> listen, the typical home is a third cheaper than it was four years ago. i don't care how you look at it, that's a bargain. some markets are two-thirds off. >> but will we think it's a bargain three months from now? >> i really believe so. you can't have so much activity in the market. people get tired of waiting and the market is definitely turning around. >> i've read about this recently, and you hear people wondering out loud whether they should jump in and tackle buying a bank-owned property. what's your take on that? >> it depends if you really know the area you're buying in, it's the kbbe thing to buy. banks have no passion, no ego. all they want to do is get out of the loan. so you'll get a great price. what goes wrong is people buy in an area they don't know well and have a great deal on the wrong block. >> which brings up a good point. when you're going into an area and looking for a good deal, you have to ask yourself and people in the neighborhood some questions. what are the most important questions to ask? >> number one is what's the job market. if the area is losing jobs, prices won't go up at all. two, get in your car and go around and count the for sale signs. if you see more than one or two per every two blocks, prices are still going down. >> and are the least expensive homes still selling? >> look at the cheapest houses. if they're flying on the market, that's always where the recovery begins and it makes its way into the rest of the market. >> there are people out there who it's not possible for them to buy right now. they're differential market. how's the rental market? >> that's improving and n that prices are coming down there as well, but remember, rentals and sales always move opposite to one another. >> barbara corcoran, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> appreciate it. and when we come back, a little girl's dog trapped in a well. we're going to show you the rescue. you have to know if we're showing it to you, it has a pretty happy ending. it was all caught on tape. hi, i'm eileen in the ship's main dining room on royal caribbean with a look at the news guiseppe from italy found lady luck on deck 11. the agnarelli's explored the ancient wonders of turkey. back on the ship, the royal caribbean performers brought down the house. and finally, tamara and christian danced the night away. that's the news. i'm eileen, cruising with royal caribbean. why aren't you? 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>> tom, good morning to you. top side of the beltway, there are a couple of problems, outer loop in new hampshire, it appears that it's out of the roadway but it's very heavy and very slow indeed. leaving the beltway towards the 11th street bridge, expect to be in very heavy traffic. 295 northbound right at the parkway. >> thank you, jerry. tonight on news 4 at 5:00, lunch with lindsey and 8:00 now on a tuesday morning. it's the 20th day of october 2009. you know what, it is already a beautiful day here in the northeast. al's going to provide nice, seasonable temperatures later in the day, and a good week on tap, so we're happy about that, and we've got nice people in our crowd willing to stay and say hi to the folks back home. we appreciate that, as always. i'm matt lauer along with ann curry, in while meredith is taking a little time off, and mr. roker. >> it's not that bad. it's warmer than yesterday at this time. >> what was it yesterday? and it's supposed to get warmer by the end of the week, right? >> ye, it's supposed to be near 70 tomorrow. >> we like that. we like that. let's start with a difficult question. remember, we're on tv. >> yes. >> who wears the pants in your family? >> oh, no question, deborah. >> we share the pants, and that's not always comfortable, but we do. >> yeah? annette, absolutely. >> really? >> remember, we're on tv. >> absolutely. >> guest editor maria shriver is here this morning. we've got a great series this week called "a woman's nation." she went out and she talked to men about the changing roles of women in this country and how it affectshem and their relationship. we're going to hear what maria found out just in a couple of minutes. >> i wonder who wears the pants in her family. >> maria, who wears the pants in your family? >> i was so hoping you weren't going to ask me that. >> come on, maria, fess up. >> share it. we share it. >> i don't believe you! >> and like ann said, it's not always comfortable. >> i know, i know. i identify with you, maria. now, let's move on, because we're also talking about something else important. contributing correspondent jenna bush hager is here and she's introducing us to a dedicated group of teenagers who are taking on fortune 500 companies in a unique competition to win millions ofdollars, basically to design an energy-efficient car. it is very, very cool. >> cool, all right. >> okay. >> and then a little bit later on, is your city or town on the list? the best and worst places to live and raise a family. >> okay, great. a lot to get to. let's go inside. natalie's standing by at the news desk with all the headlis. natalie, good morning. >> good morning, again, matt, ann and al, and good morning to you. we begin with afghanistan's disputed presidential election and news this morning that president hamid karzai is reportedly willing to accept a runoff vote against his main challenger. on monday, a u.n.-backed committee invalidated tens of thousands of votes that were in karzai's favor. the unsettled election has become a complication for the u.s. as president obama decides whether to send in more troops to afghanistan. the government says it has found evidence of swine flu in at least one pig in minnesota. usda officials say a state fair show pig tested positive and was not part of a commercial herd. the government is stressing, again, that the h1n1 virus cannot be contracted by eating pork products. researchers from the university of california found that children with autism have mercury levels that are in line with the average child. many parents of autistic children believe mercury found in vaccines, fish and other places is to blame for the disorder, but experts say the study shows there is no single smoking gun causing autism. another study finds that children with attention deficit hyper activity disorder or adhd are more likely to commit a crime as adults. researchers say kids with adhd were twice as likely to commit theft and 50% more likely to sell drugs. the study was published in the journal of mental health policy and economics. nasa rolled out a new next-generation rocket taller than a football field for a test run next week. the aries x-1 is designed to one day replace the space shuttles. it's very cool looking. it's 8:03 right nowlt let's turn it back outside to matt and ann. >> let's find out how cold it's going to get, because al's out here and he's moving. >> i'm on the move! off to these four gals enjoying the big apple. where are you from? >> indiana. >> near perdue university. >> everybody having a good time. all right, let's check your weather, shall we? pick city of the day happens to be fargo, north dakota, nbc 11. rain, very cool, just as the town is very cool. andhe jet stream, it takes a big dip over the southwest, bringing showers over the rockies. we're looking at some mountain snows also. then, as we move on into thursday, we've got a little bit of a bend and it brings that storm track right over the mississippi river valley. rain from east texas all theheii good morning. scattered frost in the rural areas on this tuesday morning. just a few clouds are coming through. it's 44 near washington. fairfax, prince georges, and arlington counties. a fewocations have a little bit of frost around but it's going to be melting off shortly. a rapid warmup. into the 60s by noon. upper 60s by midafternoon. tomorrow, a bit milder. milder on thursday. >> and that's your latest weather. mr. lauer? >> mr. roker, thank you very much. when we come back, jenna bush hager is introducing us to a group of teenagers who have their eyes set on a big prize. sawdust in your boots, paint in your hair and no holes in your wallet. - man: whew! - we've lowered prices throughout the store, giving you all the tools you need and the bragging rights you deserve. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. save 20 bucks with a new lower price on the kohler forte kitchen faucet. 6 years. i've had asthma forever. i never knew why my asthma symptoms kept coming back... ...kept coming back... ...or that i could help prevent them in the first place. the problem was that my controller medicine... ...was treating only 1 main cause of asthma symptoms. but there are 2. airway constriction. and inflammation. unlike most controllers, advair treats both main causes. advair treats both main causes. and that helps prevent symptoms in the first place. 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[ applause ] simon hoer, known as the hog, is behind the wheel. he's driving up now to where we've got ten students from the team with us as well. >> that seems smooth. >> good morning, everybody. i know. hey, simon, good morning. >> how are you doing? >> i understand you just got this thing running yesterday, is that correct? >> s. how are you doing? >> what did it take to get this thing started? >> it took a lot of extra work. we put in a lot of hours last week. we wanted to present it today on the "today" show. >> and it made it. >> it made it. >> it made it at least 50 yards there. khaleda, you're in new york not only for the "today" show, but because we've got good news. out of the 120 entries in this contest, they've narrowed it down to the final 40, and this group is in it. >> yes. >> so, you've cleared it, right? >> yes. >> what are your chances of winning this thing? >> we're going to win. [ applause ] >> optimism, i like that. >> well, you know, i saw a lot of optimism watching you, as you were watching that tape just a moment ago. you were very -- you know, obviously, this means so much to you. >> yes. >> and all of the students. but where does this drive, where does this come from, this great enthusiasm and excitement about really beating these fortune 500 companies? >> well, we've beat them before and we're going to prove to the world that we can do it again. anyone can do anything if you put your mind to it. >> can i play the cynic for a minute? and jenna, you can weigh in on this because you were there. a lot of people say, now the teacher's done all the work here. >> the students do all the work. >> he doesn't do anything. >> i was there. he's a great leader, but the students do everything. it's really amazing. >> well, we're going to keep our fingers crossed for you folks, all right? >> yep. >> good luck. it's fantastic what you've accomplished so far. >> we take donations from wherever we can get them from. >> and jenna, thanks so much for sharing the story. >> thanks so much. >> we appreciate it. >> thank you very much, everybody. coming up next, we've got maria shriver talking about giving men their say when it comes to which sex is really in charge at home. making him a great contender in this bout... against mid-morning hunger. honey nut cheerios is coming in a little short. you've got more whole grain in your little finger! let's get ready for breakfaaaaaaaaaast! 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>> i think if we put it on issues of money, yes. >> how different that is from, you know, the sort of media images we have of the 1950s family, where he would be the sole bread-winner and he would give his wife an allowance. >> is that a generational thing, or -- >> well, i think this generation now, they're not watching those '50s shows. >> i think the roles that we had provided this myth, and now it's an ongoing negotiation and it requires much more presence. >> so, when people sit down at the tables today and say i want to start a negotiation, everybody's like, whoa, nobody told me this was going to happen. >> we didn't get the memo. >> didn't get the memo. >> but i think women dictate. women have always dictated what men do. i own my own business, but when i lay my head down on the bed, my wife will say, well, you know, i don't think you made the right decision, and you really look at that and listen to it. >> my daughter last night, she's 1 and she's able to crawl and she went over to the cookie jar and banged on the top of it, and i look at my wife. am i allowed to give her a cookie? you're mom, in charge. >> but do women prohibit men or do women gate-keep men away from being fully involved some. >> i would say so. >> you would say yes? >> yeah. when i'm home, my wife goes to work. my daughters and i are like perfect team. we do everything, happy. as soon as mom comes home, she went immediately, okay, did they have lunch at noon? no, i gave them lunch at 3:00. what do you do about it? oh, my god. world war i now. >> you can tell he's just starting out. >> my mom was a powerhouse, you know? and she really did kind of dictate what went on, but what was told or what was described of what was happening was that dad was in charge. >> my uncle always told me, he said a woman defines a man, and she gives you kind of the direction in life. >> do you think women realize that or women know that? >> you know, i think -- i don't think so. >> do you find it confusing, the power structure changing inside the home? does itffect guys sexually at home? >> when your wife is working 10 to 12, 14 hours a day, it's not really a matter of who initiates sex, but it's like, you know, can that wait until friday or saturday? it's like -- >> do you have four minutes? >> i'm tired. i'm really tired. >> i hear the baby crying. i've got to go. >> so, it's not her job, it's not that she's working or making more money. >> no. >> doesn't affect -- >> no. >> what about for you at home? >> in which aspect? i'm still on the dirty sex part. i'm sorry. i'm trying to remember what that was like two years ago. >> that's why you need a men's group for that. >> no, i need a babysitter. i need a babysitter! >> hey, maria, welcome back. >> thank you, matt. >> let's just touch on the sex thing real quick and then we'll get out of it. >> we'll get out of it. >> you say one of the biggest predictors of a husband's satisfaction is how often he has sex and researchers report that women feel more sexual attraction to husbands who do more house work and child care. >> i think women find men who are good fathers more attractive, men who know that they are struggling, who are interested in their lives who see them. they find those men more attractive. >> grab the vacuum cleaner, guys. >> get involved with your kids, guys. >> let's move on. you say the battle of the sexes is over and now we're at the point where it's all about negotiating, but negotiating for a lot of couples is all about control and it's where the communication breaks down. >> well, i think it's als somethin women aren't really familiar with and that they have to learn. and as i talked to couples across the country, i said, you mean, you're havaving conversation? they said, no, a negotiation implies that both people get somewhere at the end of it. and i think women are learning negotiation at home and they're taking it to the workplace. they're asking for flexible hours, they're asking for different kinds of schedules, but they're learning that at home. they're trying it on their husbands. >> with more and more women working, you've got, who does the house work at home? how does that break down? and it's always been the beef of women, i think, that even though they work outside the home, they come home and then they have to take care of the kids and do the housework and it's ruffled a lot of feathers. is it changing based on what you talked to these guys about? >> absolutely, especially among young men. they wer raised by working mothers. they want to be more involved in their kids. they don't really like the model they saw with their fathers, but they are struggling to be able to do it all, just like women are. >> i don't want to upset women out there, but -- >> you don't. >> i know. believe me, i don't. don't you think some women, though, like it when they come home and they do the lion's share of the work because it reinforces this image of superwoman, supermom, that they can do it all? >> i think that's an old image, and i think it's an unrealistic image. i think women are tough on themselves and they think it's expected of them to do it all, but i think as the poll shows that we did with "time" magazine, which has "american woman" on the cover, women want to be seen, they want to be valued, they want to be supported at work and at home. >> and you mentioned to me before you went on the air that you surprised me, but so many men out there feel as if they are in some ways immask lated by taking on more of the responsibilities in child care and bottle feed -- why is that still some. >> well, i think it's cultural, and so many men have lost their jobs in this recession. 70% of the job losses have been for men, and they find themselves sometimes working for their wife or being at home in a job that's not familiar to them. but so many of them have told me, once they've kind of made the identity shift, they find it incredibly rewarding in ways they never anticipated, but they grow up with a certain idea, as do women, of thinking they have to do it all. men feel that a certain image of being macho and being the male provider, and all of a sudden, they're a stay-at-home dad. they struggle with it as women have. >> but times are changing. you've got to be flexible and adjust with the times. >> just like you, matt, flexible. >> thanks for that. i appreciate that. maria's going to be back tomorrow. we'll talk about how women are taking on an increasingly bigger role at mega churches. we're back right after your local news and a look at your weather. the time right now is 42 and lots of sunshine and nice, blue skies. it's the 20th of october 2009. some people in the district can begin getting their swine flu vaccine today. all young people between 6 months and 24 years and all pregnant woman. the vaccine is available in both the injection and nasal forms. we'll take a break now and take a look at our weather and traffic. st good morning. just a few clouds are coming through and we have temperatures that are just a little above freezing. now 44 in washington and highs today reaching the upper 60s. milder on wednesday and thursday. showers late on saturday into sunday. jerry, how is the traffic? >> good morning. southbound at 270, off the shoulder, combined with the accident at 118, still there is a rough commute. 395 northbound a. lot of backed up traffic and typical for this time of morning. joe? >> jerry, thank y. 8:30 now on a tuesday morning, 20th day of october 2009. right now, our crowd members are posing for some photos with the one and only tracy morgan, the emmy-nominated actor from nbc's "30 rock." and tracy's just written a memoir. it's unbelievable. he's written this memoir all about his life from the projects to prime time. and we're going to talk to tracy about that in just a couple of minutes. it is in some places very raw and moving book. >> yes. >> all right, all right. also coming up this morning, we'll be talking about something simple and delicious, a great italian recipe for something that your family might actually enjoy, and it was brought to us by a woman who writes this book with her daughter, so we'll find out more about that. >> that's great. and a little bit of a reminder for you. this friday, country superstar mr. tim mcgraw is going to be gracing our plaza, putting on a live concert. >> that's right, and you still have a little bit of time to pick one of the songs that tim mcgraw's going to be performing here live. the options are "something like that," "live like you were dying" or "red ragtop." you can vote at todayshow.com or text your choice to 46833. the voting ends tomorrow. >> all right, that should be cool. before we go any further, can we say hello to the most recent contestant voted off the ranch on "the biggest loser," mosie dewalt, aka, coach moe. great to see you. >> i love coach moe's voice. >> great to be here. thank you. >> can we talbrass tacks here? lot of people thought the pers you were partnered with, tracy, was going to get the boot, okay? you ended up getting the boot, and some people think you kind of sacficed yourself for her. is that true? >> i had injuries. i had a lot of things going on. i had a recent injury with my foot and it tore some tendons loose and i was having a hard time training, definitely for the challenges. so, i just couldn't help the team anymore. so i really did it for the whole team. >> you mentioned your injuries. you've actually had a lot of things you've been going through, right? you've lost some people in your family and all this, but yet, you were still able to lose the weight. >> yeah. i mean, i have an organization where i work with young people and i constantly tell them never to grow up, always go forward. the death of my father, though, was probably one of the hardest things i ever experienced and it was hard. i just sat down and didn't want to do anything, and my mom told me, what would he say to you? he would say get up, do it again. and that's what i did. i got back up and finally got down 100 pounds. >> and what's your goal weight? >> my goal weight by my doctors is 215 to 220, but i set my goal a lot higher, so i'm looking at 180. >> wow. >> wow. and you're looking great. you mentioned, by the way, the mentoring you do. the village is the name of the organization you're involved with. how has that 100-pound weight loss been such an inspiration to all of them? >> well, you know, normally before "the biggest loser," i would work mainly with just children, but now the parents are comingn saying, please, show me how to do it, tell me how to get healthier. you know, when you have diabetes and you're no longer taking shots in your stomach, when you have no more high blood pressure medicine to take, it's just so amazing. these things with the weight loss just totally rever themselves. so now the parents are saying i want to learn how to do that, too, and we're going to teach them. we're going to make it a whole family thing. >> good for you. >> congratulations. >> you've done a great job. coach moe, great to have you here. >> pleased to be here. thank you all so much. >> such an inspiration. >> keep going, all right? >> i will. thank you. >> now mr. roker. coach al. >> let's take a look, see what's happening for you. show you for today we are looking at wet weather from the western great lakes all the way into the rockies with some snow. windy in the southwest, rip currents along the southeastern florida coast. tomorrow we expect cool weather in new england, sunshine mid-atlantic states, more rip currents along the mid-florida coast. heavy rain from texas, remnants of tropical storm rick starting to work their wheir wayiiii snoof good morning. scattered frost all across the region and it's melting as temperatures are getting above freezing. it up to 44 in washington and we'll continue to see it climb today. noontime, low 60s. midafternoon, upper 60s with lots of sunshine. the clouds should be moving away towards the southeast. and then tomorrow, mostly sunny and a bit milder. milder on thursday. increasing clouds on friday and an >> that's your latest weather. and we should also mention, tonight, "biggest loser" airs at 8:00/7:00 central right here on nbc. and after you've watched "the biggest loser," don't forget, you can get your latest weather on the weather channel on cable or weather.com online. i could get one more plug in, but -- >> yes. go for it. >> i'm getting one in now, because i want to tell everyone, al, thanks a lot, about tracy morgan -- >> "30 rock" airs t tracy morgan has made us laugh ever since his first season on "saturday night live" back in 1996. now he's entertaining us on nbc's "30 rock" as tracy jordan, a role that earned him an emmy nomination this year. tracy writes about his difficult rise to stardom in the new book "i am the new black." tracy, good morning. it's good to have you here. >> thank you, matt. thank you, my friend, my friend. >> great to have you here. iant to say right off the bat, i think people will be surprised by this group. a lot of comedians and comedic actors in their first book tackle something quir, and it's punch line after punch line. there's a lot of funny stuff in here, but this is raw and this is very deep and honest stuff. why did you go this direction? >> it's my story. i'd rather tell my story than have someone on the e-hollywood channel tell my story, you know? my story's what happened. >> you talk about growing up in a difficult neighborhood here in new york. >> right. >> you talk of -- >> deprivation, poverty, those things. >> you talk about this sense of humor that now entertains us, and you have to say, no, understand, this was my bullet-proof vest. this is how i survived in that neighborhood. >> absolutely. you know, growing up in a tough neighborhood, you made sociopaths laugh. so i mean -- >> that's a tough audience. >> yeah. it's new york city, you know? and that's -- i'd rather -- i don't know how many books i'm going to write. this is my first book, so i felt that i'd just talk about my steps that i took to get here. >> i was struck by something you write about on the death of your father. he was 40. >> yeah. he was my age. >>ou were 17. >> i was my son's age. >> he died of aids. >> right. >> he was a heroin addict and he used a dirty needle. that's what i wanted to ask you. you're his age now, the age he was when he died. that had to create a different dynamic -- >> it was an anxiety with me and my son to -- you know, when you have family members that are a legacy that people die violently or die of ill and all that, your anxiety's will i get to be that age? will i do that and all that. so, writing this book was important for me and my son because he was my age when my father died and i was my father's age. >> right. >> so i'm looking at my son like, when i was your age, my father was gone. he had left me twice. vietnam took him, and then when i got him, he was diagnosed. so -- >> he died a short time later. >> i said we have to make sure that our relationship is tight and solid. >> there's another episode you wrote about in the book. your mom was addicted to gambling. >> yeah. she's overcome that. >> right. and at some point, you just decided you couldn't be around that anymore, and you talk about and you write about -- you passed a train station one day and said wait a minute, you just went up the platform, went on the train and took off. >> it was growing up in deprivation. and at a young age, i saw statistics. don't ask me why, don't ask me how, but at a young age, i saw a lot of my friends going to jail, dying, and i didn't want to be that. i wanted to be a running back in the nfl, and because my mother was having a hard time raising four or five kids by herself, i had to make a choice, so i ran. i ran to my father, who was like, you know, played football, i'm going to put you in sports and all that. and my uncles and all that. so, i mean it was probably the best choice i ever made in my life. and my mother sometimes didn't understand that if i didn't run, mom, i might have been a statistic like the rest of my friends. >> you write about a person named chico divine, and you want to just quickly explain who he was? >> he was my alter ego, my party side. >> three drinks in, chico came out. >> yeah, three drinks in. it was poor me, poor me. pour me another drink. you know what i'm saying? i was feeling sorry for myself. it's lonely, you know. i don't come from a place where people are on "saturday night live" all the time, so i didn't -- you can't get instructions for this. >> right. >> and some people have to make adjustments. >> you ended up getting arrested twice for dui. >> yeah. >> i think in 2005 and 2007. >> yeah. >> they hayou wear an ankle monitor, bracelet. >> yeah. >> you had diabetes -- >> and thank god i didn't hurt anybody and thank god i didn't hurt myself. and it might have been a blessing in disguise that i got arrested, because it threw me in the right direction. >> and because you're diabetic, doctors said you have to quit the drinking and you couldn't -- >> no, come on, i'm making money now, i've come from deprivation. so i was like, yo, i'm living the life now and i didn't take my health serious. i didn't know how serious diabetes was. and now i know. so, now it's like -- i jus walked in here eating a pineapple. that's some great food. i walked in here with a bowl of grapefruit. am i kidding you? didn i have a bowl of grapefruit? ask kenny. >> he's vouching for you. i see him shake his head. some controversies in the book. you write about "saturday night live" and you say great things about tina fey and michaels, you skaul him your obi wan kenobi. >> yes, he's my man. >> you don't have nice things to say about -- >> well, it's just that nothing was there. we never had a relationship. i don't have anything against anybody, but if you ask me a question, at any job there are differences. at any job, wherever you go, there are going to be people that don't get along, don't speak -- >> so, you didn't get along? >> no, it's not that we never got along, it's that we never got. it was none of that with them two, but everybody else, we were like family. it's just that, that's the nature of the business. very competitive. >> right on the back cover of the book, you write "the best thing that ever happened to me was being brought up hard." it has to make you appreciate your success -- >> it was my motivation. for all the people who said i couldn't do it. for always being voted most unlikely, you know? coming where i come from, a lot of the young kids are looked at like you'll never amount to anything. but people didn't realize, i was just in a cocoon. i'm a beautiful black butterfly. you see what i'm saying? my duis, all that was me being in a cocoon. now i've come into my manhood. i'm doing it the right way. >> and the book is called -- >> and i'm quite sure my mother and my father's proud of me. "i'm the new black." it doesn't mean anything about color or race or anything. like obama said, there are no excuses. you have to make this place better. you have to try now. because if tracy morgan can make it, so can you. >> tracy morgan -- >> and it ain't just loving words anymore. it's concrete proof! >> the book is "i am the new black." >> that's what's up. >> tracy, good to have you here. >> pleasure. >> you can catch him on "30 rock" this thursday -- >> and carnegie hall on the 26th. >> and carnegie hall. >> and "scare tactics." >> anything else? think about it. up this morning in "today's kitchen back to basics," authentic italian cooking, and no one is more authentic than chef lydia bastianich. her latest book is called "lydia cooks in the heart of italy" with her daughter. good morning. >> good morning. >> and good afternoon, because we're looking at a good lunch pretty soon with all this cooking. >> perfect. >> you're saying this is possessentry, it's not hard. a little bit of butter, if you want. bacon and pasta. in this case. and we're going to finish it up in one day. this is a light pasta with texture. you put it right into the sauce, you finish cooking them together and then the finish and the crowning touch is actually whisking in the eggs and making almost like a fricatta. you can see the flavor of the bacon, of the pasta, and then the -- >> keep going? >> no, it's okay -- >> oh. >> you're just about done. did you put some salt in there? >> you know. here we go. >> so, this book is all about this kind of recipes, you know. there are regions of italy i cover in this book and the capital, you know -- >> i love to hear you talk. so, you have a little bit of this -- you have the pasta. you've got the bacon that's been cooking, then you've added some pasta water. >> just a little bit to make the sauce. >> okay. >> okay. >> fire up. fire up. >> this is pretty easy. >> you can throw it right in. >> throw the eggs straight in. >> straight in. okay, yeah. >> huh. >> and you see, you make it almost like a pasta fricatta. and you know the carbonatta that everybody loves? >> yes. >> it's very close to this, except you don't let the eggs cook. >> just warm. >> in this case, but you know what, in this case, this is so easy when you come home from wo work, you have your family, they're hungry, whatever. by the time the water is cooking, the pasta is cooked, you're all done. >> did you use a particular kind of bacon? because it looks chunky. >> nice and thick. that's regular slab bacon, but you know, some people are kind of -- you can use turkey bacon if you want. >> i want to help you with this. >> go ahead, stir it up. >> okay. it smells so good. >> some grated cheese, just the end. okay, you can pull it off. >> parmesan -- >> put it right here. a little bit of, if you like melted cheese, if you want to get some richness. >> oh, boy, i can see t family will want this. this with a salad and done. okay. serve it up. okay, terrific. like this? >> just like that. you taste it? >> that with little salad on the side, you're done. >> delicious. >> okay. >> now, while you're munching on that -- >> thank you, lidia. >> i have an equally fast dessert, and that is bread. old bread, you soak it in melted chocolate, espresso coffee, a little bit of rum, and then you layer it just like that. you have thebread, you have it all soaked. >> so, this has never been cooked. this is just soaked bread. >> soaked bread. a great way of reusing bread. we want to be so green-conscious -- >> yes. >> well, let's put it to practice. >> that's right. let's not throw everything away. there you go. >> breaded chocolate like that. and then you put on a little bit more whipped cream. >> that is so pretty. >> you know, the hands, you've got to get your hands involved. little bit of chocolate just like that. a little bit of toasted almonds, and you've got yourself a main course and dessert, one, two, three. >> you know, i think heaven is having you now to an up-close encounter with the largest fish in the sea. nbc's kerry sanders headed off to mexico for the thrill of a lifetime. >> reporter: in cancun, mexico, long before this was a tropical playgrou playground, the aquamarine waters here beckoned another thing, the world's largest fish, as big as a school bus, a book of legend. >> it's a huge -- a huge -- a huge. >> reporter: up to 60 feet long, said fishermen. but who had ever seen such a fish? haras palacios claims he saw his first one when he was 3 years old. >> well, you feel like a piece of you because they're huge animals. you also feel scared. you feel scared, like motion sickness. >> reporter: in search of the unknown, we boarded a launch guided by a marine biologist who promised 20 to 30 miles off the coast we'd find these so-called whale sharks. >> we're going to see the whale sharks. >> reporter: and just like they promised -- there they we, whale sharks that thankfully are not man-eaters. in all, we counted 64 gliding at the surface. their mouths open, almost five feet wide, filtering the water to feed on fish eggs. the story goes, years ago, fishermen came out and actually caught one of these whale sharks, took it home a it tasted horrible. so, everyone pretty much ignored them. then, about eight, nine years ago, one of the captains who was having a really bad day fishing wondered if maybe people would pay and go out and see these behemot behemoths. it's been a steady stream of tourists ever since. >> it's incredible. you can't imjin the size of the shark under the water. it's amazing. >> well, when we go back to minnesota, we'll need a couple people to tell them that the fish was this big. >> reporter: this year, a record number 480 showed up. biologists admit little is known about them, how deep they can swim, why they gather here in mass numbers every june to september, only to then swim off in separate directions. >> there's a lot that we don't know. it's a mystery. most of their biological cycle, about their ecological relationship. so, we don't know where they mate, how they mate, their lifespan is believed to be between 60 to 100 and 150. so, there's a lot o questions that we are starting to figure out how to answer. >> reporter: this year, the scientists tagged eight whale sharks and they're now tracking them by satellite. >> and it's showing each transmission. >> reporter:or locals like martin treho, a fourth-generation fisherman, the long-ignored whale sharks are now considered a gift. they have hooked tourists just when the catch has gotten smaller. which is easier, taking tourists out or fishing? >> no, it's, the tourists fishing is now. >> reporter: so, you'd much rather take some tourists out. swimming with the fishes, the biggest ones in the world. for "today," kerry sanders, nbc news, cancun, mexico. >> wow. >> amazing images. >> so cool. >> yeah. >> the spots. >> we had a chance to do that, but in an enclosed situation at the georgia aquarium. >> at the georgia aquarium. >> they were incredible. >> i know. when you see them up close, but probably out in the open like that, more amazing. >> wow. unbelievable. >> i don't care how many times they tell you they only eat plankton, when they come at you with their mouths open. >> they can all right. the time right now is 8:56. it's 44 degrees and clouds are out there. not a lot of sunshine, though. good morning. the swine flu is forcing the county to change it is plans. they are changing the mass vaccination plan because they received less of the vaccine than the department anticipated. they will announce those changes this afternoon. we'll have details then. firefighters in arlington are investigating an early-morning house fire in the block of 9th street. firefighters say that a family member who got off work early, smelled the smoke, and woke everyone up. a temporary shelter has made up for the victims. we'll check out the for good morning. the temperatures have climbed into the 40s. still a few clouds are passing over the potomac river. there are a few clouds in the distance. in the upper 60s by later on today and more sunshine is returning. mostly clear tonight and mid-40s tomorrow morning. upper 60s and low 07s tomorrow afternoon. mid-70s perhaps on thursday. increasing clouds on friday and passing showers on friday afternoon and evening into saturday. we're heavy but relatively steady as you head from fair oaks into the capital. crews are headed over to check the outer loop of the freeway. initial reports of an accident. if you head for that, be careful. lunch with lindsey at 5:00. they talk about what it's like to crash we're back with more of "today" on a tuesday morning, 20th day of october 2009. weather warming up just a little bit for these nice people out on the plaza. still chilly, but a pretty day, so we're happy about that. >> look who else is on our plaza right over here. recognize these guys? >> oh, my -- >> this year's wedding couple. >> cody and jessica from three years ago. >> that's right, that's right. and the good news -- >> they're still married! >> still together. we love that. >> yes, they are. >> that's faastic. >> they're in town. martha stewart's having a 15th anniversary of their wedding magazine and they invited them in because they were our martha stewart wedding. >> i remember that. congratulations, you guys. nice to see you. >> thanks. >> i've got socks older than them. >> meanwhile, out on the plaza, matt lauer along with ann curry and al roker. coming up, we're going to talk more about the balloon that went pop. >> that's right. >> this whole alleged hoax perpetrated by a family out in colorado. this morning we're going to talk to a former associate of the father in this family. he says the two of them actually talked about planning some kind of a ufo-type hoax to capture attention. we're going to find out what else he has to say in a little while. also, we'll find out what more maria shriver has to say. she's back this morning talking about "a woman's nation," and she'll be talking about who does the chores around the house. what dyou guys -- do you guys want to weigh in on that? >> oh, wow, look at the time. geez, wow. also ahead, do you have to consider -- what do you have to consider when you're thinking about relocating your family? there's a lot that goes into it -- safety, education, jobs, the quality of life. we're going to make it easy. we're going to tell you the ten best and ten worst places to raise your family in america. >> you're goingo make a lot of friends on those ten worst places, aren't you? >> i know. >> we should mention, you did not decide -- >> i didn't pick these, exactly. >> just the reporter, the me messeng messenger. >> good morning to you. today, afghanistan's president agreed to a november runoff ordered by his country's election commission. hamid karzai did not have enough votes to win the august election after fraud monitors disqualified a third of his votes. and afghanistan's election dispute adding new urgency to this morning's white house meeting between president obama and iraq's prime minister nuri al maliki. u.s. officia are pressing the critical importance of legitimate elections in iraq next january. the department of agriculture has confirmed the first known case in the u.s. of a pig having swine flu. officials said monday the pig had been shown at the minnesota state fair and was not part of a commercial heard. they're trying to reassure the public again that the swine flu cannot be transmitted through pork products. prosecutors in colorado could decide next week if they'll file criminal charges in the runaway balloon case. investigators are checking e-mail and phone records to see if richard and mayumi heene had help with what police say was a hoax. this morning a former associate said richard heene was caught up in his own agenda. >> richard, you know, he has his positives and his negatives. obviously, right now it appears the negatives outweigh the positives, but he's a very creative individual, very hyperactive. fortunately, i think he's a little driven by fame and really interested in kind of promoting himself. i think he had, you know, the ego from "wife swap" and appearing several times on "wife swap," and i think that, you know, he really needed to focus on his family and not on being in hollywood and pursuing that side of the coin. i think he really needed to focus on his kids. >> he also claims that months ago he and heene worked on a similar stunt to drum up publicity for a potential reality tv series. so, how many grade schools can boast a rock star at the grand opening of their new playground? nbc's artists and residents jon bon jovi thanked people monday in camden, new jersey, where his charity is building playgrounds, green spaces and affordable housing. and here comes the bride. a woman in lebanon claims she was married sunday wearing the longest veil in the world, measuring 2 miles and 453 feet, but guinness world record officials were not present to verify the length. it is beautiful, but you sure need a huge bridal party to help carry that thing along. it's now four minutes after the hour. let's go back outside to matt and ann. >> thanks, natalie. >> let's get a check of the weather. it's chilly, but nice. brisk, but nice. you want to wish your dad a happy birthday? >> yes, happy birthday, dad, in birmingham, alabama. >> but you are going to get him a present, right? >> of course! >> just checking. wanted to make sure. as a dad, i want to make sure he gets taken care of, because dads always get -- oh, dad, here, look, here's a lovely napkin i found. let's look at what's going on as far as your weather's concerned. for today we've got wet weather working through the northern plains. much of the country, though, looking pretty good. although down through mexico, that's remnants of rick. it's going to make its way in through tomorrow into the rest of the week. heavy rain also making its way through the rest of the plains. sunshine up and down the eastern seaboard, rip currents along the southeastern atlantic coast and the pacific northwest looking pretty darn good. lots of sunshine. that's what's -- oh, by the way, we've got some nice folks here from the weather channel. our weather channel vice president of programming, rashida jones. she's the one who calls all the shots. say hi to everybody at the weather channel. >> hi, everybody at the weather iiiiiiiiiiii iii good morning. we've had scattered frost and temperatures are in the middle to upper 40s. here in washington, 47. it will continue to climb perhaps another 20 degrees for the afternoon high reaching the upper 60s. lots of sunshine and then clear tonight, mid-40s tomorrow morning. and then during the day on wednesday, into the low 70s with lots of sun. partly cloudy on thursday and a bit milder. >> and that's your latest weather. natalie? >> announcer: "today's a woman's nation" is brought to you by chevy. al, thank you. and now again to our special series "a woman's nation." nbc's guest editor maria shriver is back to talk about that chore, i think it's safe to say, that nobody enjoys, and that is housework. the traditional roles of the sexes are shifting at every kitchen table in every home in america, but as long as there has been marriage, there's also been housework, and men doing their fair share might be the hardest challenge yet for the women's movement. >> a lot of women i talk to are saying all of a sudden, okay, men have lost their jobs. i'm the primary bread-winner, but i'm also having to take care of the kids -- >> everything. >> -- do the shopping -- >> bills. >> -- do the greeys, do the bills -- >> cut the grass. >> and you know what? no more. no more. like renegotiation now. >> yeah. >> do you see that going on? >> oh, yes. >> reporter: when don ebanowski took early retirement from chrysler, he accepted the first job he could find, at a bridal store owned by his wife. >> oh, isn't that lovely? >> reporter: as her business has grown, so have his responsibilities at home. >> she works a little bit longer than i do, so i get home, have dinner ready. i do the grocery shopping. i do ladry. it's been a little role reversal a little bit. and -- >> i'd say a total bit. he's doing everything that he never did before. my daughter's now almost 18, yells down to him -- "hey, dad, is my white shirt clean?" sometimes when she says something like that, i'm going, how weird. >> she doesn't ask her. she'll ask me. >> right. >> and you feel that's weird? >> yeah. there's part of me that's going, i could do it. i can do that. i can do it all. >> uh huh. >> but truthfully, i couldn't do it all. >> reporter: but many women are still doing it all. 86% of working women say they are still tasked with the majority of the housework and childcare. a lot of men say, look it, i wasn't raised to do the laundry, to do the cooking, to do the childcare. women are saying i wasn't raised to do the yard work to do the guy's stuff. everybody's switching roles, are ey not? >> yes. >> absolutely. >> reporter: but since the 1960s, men doing housework has doubled from 15% to 30% and tripled when it comes to helping out with the kids. and women have noticed. the sexiest thing in a man in all the surveys, a man who can help, whether it's cooking, cleaning, with the kids. >> that's going to be challenging, because i don't think that's what men want. >> reporter: not what they want, but maybe what their working wives need. one of the real pioneers of the women's movement told me women will never be equal until men recognize that they also have to do many of the jobs traditionally associated with women. >> right. >> is that happening? >> i like to think so. i think that -- >> in your generation. >> yes. >> reporter: rebecca crawford insisted at age 26 that she and her live-in boyfriend share the duties equally, and local union president art reyes feels the next generation will find it easier to negotiate. are you raising your son to learn how to do housework? >> absolutely. >> and you're raising your daughter how to fix the car? >> well, i don't know how to fix the car. yeah, so, i'm showing her how to write the check to the mechanic so it gets done. we're raising a generation that can be stronger, that can do those things, that's not looking for somebody to take care of them. >> you know, my parents did that for me. i know how to fix the car. >> it does help to realize that you can reinvent yourself. >> absolutely. >> by necessity or by wanting to, you can reinvent yourself. >> and maria shriver joins us again to discuss these changing roles. >> also with us is ann o'leary from the center for american progress, who worked with maria on this report. so, good morning to both of you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> let me read from your report, maria. "an overwhelming majority of both men and women said they're sitting down at their kitchen tables to coordinate their family schedules, duties and responsibilities, including childcare, eldercare, and at least two to three times a week. men said it was more like every day." so, what did you discover in talking to men and women all across the country? there still is a little bit of a divide. >> well, i don't think men are naturally sitting down -- they don't like to sit down and talk all that much. so, i think if they looked at it, they would be forced to do it almost daily. but the good news is they recognize the importance and need for them to be a part of not only bringing home financial gain but being a part of the raising of the children. increasingly, al and natalie what we saw in this report is eldercare is a huge issue in this country, and that's very different from 40 years ago when they did the last look at the american woman. >> and there is some good news when you talk about the housework as well, because since the 1960s, when men were only contributing to about 15% of the housework, now that number has doubled to about 30%, as we saw in your report there. but how is that changing things on the home front, really? i mean, really, we're still not -- it's still not equal. >> no, it's absolutely not equal, and in the polls, it's also in "time" magazine, 70% of women say they feel like they are solely responsible forhe childcare and the eldercare. both sexes also report huge incidences of stress due to trying to balance all this and their health care. ann wrote a whole chapter in the book about that and the implications of that. so, i think there's still a lot of shifting going on in this generation. our children i think will have much clearer roles, much clearer expectations and assumptions going in. >> and ann, in the workplace, in the report, ann, in the workplace, you suggest there still needs to be a lot of changes. because of all these shifts going on. >> and these stresses. >> that's right. you know, parents feel like this is their own private struggle, and it's so frustrating for them. they're afraid to go to their employer and say, listen, i need some flexibility or i need to know when i'm going to work. >> both men and women. >> that's right, men and women. and so, you know, what we're finding is that they want flexibility, they want better childcare. we were talking, they also want paid maternity leave or paid parental leave so they can take a little time and not have to suffer the economic consequences. >> and that's where the u.s. is really lagging on that front. >> right. we're the only industrialized country that doesn't have paid maternity leave and we're one of just a handful that doesn't have paid parental leave for fathers. >> right. >> and i think what ann is saying, when you work for low-income mothers, they feel like they have flexibility isn't even part of the dialogue. it's like, tell me when i'm working, what are my days? and they feel powerless in this equation. and there's so many women in low-income situations, and you ow, making so much less than men and feeling not only invisible, but powerless. >> now, maria, you've gotten now with women nearly 50% of the workforce out there. what does this mean for the big picture? are the days of the stay-at-home mom on the wane? i mean, it's really an economic reality that one paycheck isn't going to cover it. >> absolutely not. and the "traditional," typical family with the man being the bread-winner and the woman being at home is less than 30% of american families today. i think it's about 21%. that has implications across the board. it affects schools, it affects government, it affects business, it affects men, it affects relationships, it affects who's raising our children, what kinds of homes are children coming home to. and that's why i think this is so important and so many people have written into the websites at nbc and to womensnation.com saying thank you for raising this. this is so empowering that people, men and women are talking about it. it gives me credibility to go in and ask for flex hours. it gives me credibility to go in and ask for, is there maternity policy here, is there paid sick day? you know, i think the government hasn't kept up to date. ey don't even know how many people are, you know, applying for family leave. they have no way of tracking any of this information. only two states have a paid family policy, california and new jersey. >> right, yeah. that's pretty remarkable. >> and obviously, people are going to be talking about this -- >> it's an eye-opener. >> -- in the days to come. thanks so much for bringing us this big problem we've got and opportunity. >> yeah, great opportunity. i have to say, when i worked with al, one of the first guys i knew that did the shopping, the cooking -- >> i was going to say -- >> great dad. >> evolved man. >> it really makes a difference. >> the evolved man. al "the evolved man" roker. >> or devolved. just call me the missing link. ann o'leary, maria shriver, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> maria's back tomorrow to talk about the role women play and how faith-based institutions help across this country. and still to come on "today," over 40 and fashion forward. we're going to show you how to pull off all the discover a light yogurt like no other. activia light! delicious, fat free, and above all... the only one that has bifidus regularis and is clinically proven to help regulate your digestive system. activia light. ♪ activiaaa! should we order panda blossom, panda moon... how about chinese at home with new wanchai ferry? 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>> we went with six categories -- health, education, employment, we looked at safety issues and we looked at family life, things like how many parks, how many recreational opportunities are there. >> okay. so, let's get started. first of all, best cities. starting with a town close to where we are right now. number ten, yonkers. >> yonkers was kind of a sleeper for us, but it's only 15 minutes from the big apple. so, you've got all of the opportunities that new york has, but it actually has a higher per capita income than new york city and a lower cost of living. >> all right. now, number nine, omaha, nebraska. and you call this a city, an economic sleeper. >> sure. it's sort of a little cultural mecca of the midwest. it's got the largest community playhouse in america. it's got an opera house. it's got a very high per capita income. so it's really a great place to live. >> now, we go to number eight, cheyenne, wyoming, and number seven not surprisingly, honolulu, hawaii. now, what about the health of families in honolulu? >> well, honolulu's one of the healthiest places to raise a child. you have very low rates of obesity, low rates of disease. and cheyenne also is terrific because it's kind of been recession-proof this year. housing prices are stable. half the unemployment rates of the rest of the country. >> and hawaii has a pretty good health care plan, don't they? >> they have a great health care plan, and also, hawaii has the best parental leave laws of any state in the union. >> all right. numb six, lexington, kentucky, capital of the world -- the horse world, as it were. >> it is. it's also one of the educational capitals. you know, lexington is around the university of kentucky, so it's a very educated population. one of the things they're most educated about is nutrition. when it comes to children's health issues, that's critical. >> sure. >> they actually banned friers, deep friers from school lunch programs in lexington. >> that's pretty forward thinking. >> it is. >> number five, fremont, california. and number four, lincoln, nebraska. lincoln, you say, according to your research, is not only one of the prettiest places, but also one of the cheapest. >> one of the most affordable. they have a great per-family income, but a housing price is only about $140,000. maybe that's one of the reasons why cornhuskers live longer than just about anybody else in the country. >> do they really? >> they do. >> so huski ining corn is good you. >> and low stress, i think is good for you as well. >> there you go. number three, fargo, north dakota, and number two, madison, wisconsin. >> both scored very well across the board. madison particularly has the lowest rate of infant mortality around the country. in fact, madison almost made number one, but they missed out on one area where our number one exceeded all expectations. number one place to raise children in the country is burlington, vermont. >> burlington, vermont. now, what makes burlington number one? >> great education system, very healthy population. but one thing stood out to us. it's got one of the lowest rates of obesity anywhere in the country and the fewest fast-food restaurants of any city in the usa. >> wow. and quickly, the worst city? >> some of the worst got hit really hard by the recession. so you're talking about places in florida, in arizona, where housing prices really collapsed. you're talking about detroit, where, you know, jobs have disappeared. so, economic stability was really important to this poll. >> all right. they could be nice cities, just economically they're suffering right now. >> but they may have a bright future. >> all right, steve perrin, thank you so much. and coming up, actress suzanne somers is back. a fierce advocate of alternative medicine, especially after a terrifying misdiagnosis. she'll be here a little bit later on. american renewal.he because we believe in creating cleaner energy that creates new jobs. being the number one manufacturer of wind turbines in america. and developing lower emission, fuel-efficient aircraft engines. ecomagination means growing the green economy by harnessing our most powerful resource- imagination. the american renewal is happening. right now. trying to be big like you, dad. you're so good at keeping everyone full and focused with your fiber. but you already are great at doing that. really? 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and his answer was, we didn't even know he was there. i didn't kw how to take that. >> that's a great compliment, really. >> it is. we got to meet you about three years ago. it was after hurricane katrina, and you lived in new orleans at the time. >> yes. >> and you were able to get your negatives into a museum vault. but a lot of your prints, over 5,000 prints, were damaged or destroyed by some of the water. but some of them were able to be saved. >> that frank sinatra. >> and the water did amazing things to it. >> yes. >> this frank sinatra shot we have. are you surprised how the water almost framed these? >> i was delighted, because what i was looking at was a piece of paper with the work of herman leonard and mother nature, in effect, because that's the way the thing ended up. >> perfectly frames it. >> where the water seeped in through the frame but somehow stopped around the face. >> wow. >> and that was the case of about six images that i had framed. >> that's beautiful. >> so, something like this probably would be even more -- worth a lot more than your negative, right? with the water damage? >> not worth more than the negatives. >> well -- >> but it certainly enhances the cost of them. >> worth more than a straight print, absolutely. >> so you're an example of a man who followed what he loved, even though it didn't pay anything, and became very successful financially because you were true to what you love. congratulations. >> thank you very much. >> thanks for speaking to us this morning. >> so good to see you this morning. 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>> stay within the biker boots and the heavier more masculine pieces and go for the glam rock pieces. that will really help you out, but i love. it it's like jewelry. >> and the studs on the bag, too, which brings it all together. >> fantastic. >> you look great. vivian, you're gorgeous. it's amazing, you subtract ten years with a youthful look. >> just a little edge. >> next is leather and lace and we have gloria in this trend that's really hot right now. >> gloria -- >> look at her with those legs, wow! >> gloria showed up in her fedex uniform at my house, and i said, that is it! >> she's gorgeous. >> she was like, oh, no, when she saw the leather and the lace, but you can. they neutralize each other. one's sweet, one's sassy. but they look refined and polished together. the pearls add a nice touch. and you know, cover up. less skin is better with this look, but she looks fantastic. >> i still can't get over you work for fedex, huh? you look amazing! you're hiding under that uniform. >> exactly. >> you look fantastic. our final trend is sequence ain sparkle. let's look at ruth. i love this look. you don't have to save the sequins for a special occasion. >> absolutely. so many women i talk to that are more sophisticated and mature save it for special occasions. i love the idea of wearing this on the weekend or to dinner. pair it with a cozy knit. sequins are everywhere this fall. you'll see the party dress. they're on the runways everywhere. >> and a nice way to tone it down, this jacket on top. >> yeah. >> this is something you also got at h&m. >> it's the balance. you have a little bit of the extreme feminine flash and then the masculine boyfriend blazer with the casual boots, and that really kind of tones down the glimmer for day. but for evening, she could put a pair of heels on -- >> right. >> and add a soft cashmere scarf or something. >> she's ready for a night on the town. >> i'm so proud of all these women, because they really -- >> let's bring our fabulous models out one more time. >> yes. >> oh, my goodness, fedex doesn't know what they have. these ladies are all gorgeous. thank you so much. you all look great in these trends. bobbie thomas -- >> thank you. >> some great fashion ideas there. you can check out "the buzz" in "in touch weekly." coming up next, there's a new healthy grain in town, farro, and your family's going to love it. we'll explain after this. to a cough. to a full body ache... at night. new tylenol cold rapid release gels day and night work fast too. they release medicine fast to relieve painful coughs, congestion and sore throats. so you can rest, day and night. feel better, tylenol cold. but i've got a warm, fresh baked strawberry toaster strudel. see the difference? 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a lot of flavor. so, what you want to do is pour that in there. >> so we pour the farro. >> an important part of this is to coat the farro in all the flavor and oil in there with the vegetables. >> the fat. >> the fat. the fat is the flavor. the herbs are in there. >> probably best to keep the farro in the pot. >> exactly. >> yeah. >> and then you're going to cover it with water. in about 20 minutes, it should be done. and for this, al, it's a room-temperature salad, and it's important to know, too, that you want to cool it in the liquid. >> does it come up to a boil? >> yeah. you bring it to a boil, turn it to a simmer. >> right. >> 20 minutes later you strain it, but reserve the liquid. >> oh, keep the liquid. >> you want it to cool in the liquid, so it stays nice and moist. >> let's come back here. >> so, i do two versions of this at the restaurant. this is the winter version with leeks, carrots, thyme, some balsamic vinegar. in the summer, it's really great with tomatoes, cucumber, red onion. >> and we didn't mention the restaurant. what's the restaurant? >> hearth restaurant in the east village downtown. so, you know, in the winter i like balsamic and hardier flavors. in the summer we lighten it up with red wine vinegar, cucumber, tomato. >> so it's a very versatile dish. >> very versatile dish. i like to season it with thyme for the herb, but rosemary or sage or parsley or basil, all of those things work really well. a good extra virgin olive oil. it's good to note, too, that this is not in the wheat family, american wheat. so it's very low in gluten. >> i was going to say. so if you're trying to avoid gluten? >> exactly. super low, easy to digest. it's a good alternative for people with psiliac. balsamic vinegar. >> what did you bring over here? >> so, a second winter salad also in the book, romaine hearts with a vinaigrette. the bacon fat mets the gorgonzola and makes a nice dressing. >> there's a theme here. let's toss this big boy up. >> exactly. so yeah, people don't think of winter as a time for salads, and i kind of disagree, and there's a lot of options. >> if you want, canou serve this a little warm? >> in the book. you could absolutely serve it warm. you could heat it up with some stock and make a ferotto out of it. >> throw little on there. give that a try. oh, yeah. >> you should also, don't miss that, because bacon gorgonzola -- >> there you go. >> it's pretty delicious. >> marco, thank you. the book "salt to taste." >> good to be here, al. >> thanks so much. we'll be back in a moment. i decided i love farro. >> yes. >> this is delicious! >> and so does hoda and kathie lee. >> yeah. >> and they're here this morning. >> we are. what's going on? >> we are here. >> we have anthony edwards, menopause and slime flu -- >> slime flu, yes! >> yesterday we were looking for big foot up in ohio, so -- >> which is a complicated story. >> we found big butt, but not big foot. >> you'll have to stay tuned for all that. this is what it looks like out there. the temperatures are 47 degrees and sunshine. also, some clouds. good morning. in the news for today, a government scientist accused of espionage will be appearing in court. he is being accused of selling classified information of nuclear defense systems. fbi worked well into the night. now let's get a check of the forecast with tom. tom, good morning. >> good morning, joy. we had a frosty start this morning but now the stearps are climbing up. into the mid- and late 60s with afternoon sunshine. morning lows in the 40s and highs in the 70s. partly cloudy on 70 and then on friday, increasing clouds. we'll have highs near 60. showers friday evening and off and on on saturday. now, how is the traffic at this hour, jerry? >> we still have some delays and construction. reports of a rolling work zone headed for downtown, joe? >> tonight at 5:00, lunch with lindsey. he talks about what it's captions paid for by nbc-universal television hi, everybody. it's tuesday, october 20th. hoda and i are just barreling tloi this week because we can. >> yesterday, do you know how many hours we spent together? we were here at 7:30 all the way through until 6:00 at night. how many hours is that? >> too many. no. >> 11 hours we spent together. >> and we were still enjoying each other's company. tell the fine folks at home what we were doing. >> we went off to a little town in ohio. >> zanesville, ohio. >> we were tracking bigfoot. >> it's called footin. >> there is a guy whose job it is, he turned his real passion is tracking big foot. he's been doing it for 25 years. >> i have never looked lovelier. that is our producer. >> why were we in camo. it was daytime and we were trying to track big foot. >> we had a lot of fun and we want to thank everybody and we'll air this some time in november. it's so big, we'll save it for sweeps. >> can we talk about the 16-year-old girl. >> i'm upset about this, hoda. >> a 16-year-old girl from australia who decided she wants to take a yacht trip by herself. that's the critical point. by herself. >> that's a 34-foot yacht. >> think about that 26,300 miles. her parents gave it two thumbs up. they actually said if she died -- it was so unbelievable. >> if there was a tragedy the bigger tragedy would basically be not letting her follow her passion. you know, we've talked about that. your brain is literally not formed and sometimes in your early 20s. to me, it doesn't matter how terrific a sailor you are, i'm sure she is pretty good. although on the trial run she couldn't get out of sydney harbor without hitting a cargo ship. those harbors can be very dangerous. >> she fell asleep. she was taking a cat nap. >> she will have to do that at some point in the high seas. >> she will be by herself and she will have communication by telephone, blogging. >> what if communications go out? maybe there is no cell some place and maybe no boat that can rescue her some place. i wouldn't let me daught go to school if the danger is lurking. >> she will have to stop in various places and she is supposed to go all over. somewhere by the somali coast. >> to visit the pirates in somalia. i think the parents will receive enormous criticism, but she's already left. she's gone. >> how long does this take? >> eight or nine months she wants to make the world record. >> she has to sleep on that boat at some point. >> yes, hoda, she does. >> by herself. this is not smart. that's all we're saying. >> i would love to ask our facebook people. how many people think these parents are doing the right thing. a lot of things i wanted to do when i was 6 years old and my parents wouldn't let me do it. >> she is 16. >> i know, i wasn't finished. this kind of stuff upsets me because they should just move in with the henne family. >> there are a lot of parents not making great decisions. >> use some common sense. >> anyway. good news story if you want to feel good and warm and fuzzy. >> i do. >> here it is. in a little town called olar, south carolina -- >> where andy griffith lives. >> a dog named molly fell down a 35-foot well. >> old family well. she had just given birth to puppies. >> they pulled that dog out and she didn't even have a limp or a bump according to her owner and look at this cute little girl. >> so happy to have her puppy back. >> we did have a little fun at the dog's expense, though, in the dressing room. that dog looks a little long in the tooth, so to speak. she just had puppies. >> stop it. >> i know, i'm happy for the dog. i'm thrilled. but, hey, i'm just stating the obvious. >> look at molly. look at the close up. what a face. look. >> trying to have some fun on a tuesday but nobody will let you. >> that is the cutest little -- what is the daughter's name. i love her. >> the dog is molly. >> oolivia. >> we're happy to bring you a happy ending story. speaking of happy endings -- >> do not go there. do not. no, no, no. >> hoda. yes. yes, hoda. the charmin people are going to employ you, you are looking for jobs. i bet you thousands of people are going to apply for this job. you know how difficult it is. see these beautiful toilets, they're going to make them available in times square this christmas because so many people are here to shop and see the sights and see rockefeller center and tree and everything but you don't have access to public facilities. >> you can get paid $10,000 to be a greeter at the charmin toilet area. >> a restroom guest. >> y just have to say you love it and there you are. ten grand. can i just say something? those bathrooms look good. if you think about public restrooms and howicy they are. these have pictures on the wall, they look pretty and look like they have a toilet from your house not one of the public ones. >> i want to sign up for that. >> look at the changing table. this is, this is -- >> this is a happy ending. it really is. >> all right. so, there is an ad that is angering people, it's a beer ad. >> mostly disney. >> mostly disney. the ad is called hoe white and the seven dwarfs. that is only funny if you're not disney. >> partially clad -- >> wait minute, that looks like you, hoda. that's hoda white. it looked like you. it doesn't look a thing like me. >> put that picture back up. anyway they're selling beer. now -- >> name the names of the dwarfs. >> they used to be sleepy, happy and doc and they renamed them brandy and. >> i understand, that is going to be a major suit. disney is so smart about protecting their brand. >> that is not that offensive. hi, sara. >> good morning. >> your college days. >> kathie lee, you said you wouldn't repeat that. in regard to the 16-year-old girl, a lot of people actually wrote in that they support it. they said, i can think of way worse things for a person to do. i think it's great that she's trying to do new things and then we had pam, absolutely not, way too young to handle emergencies and kathleen said only if balloon dad goes with her. >> a lot of henne support. >> find out if she is a parent, please. the people who think it is okay. >> people have their own opinions. it may not be yours. >> a lot of times people don't think things through. >> or they have different opinions than you. >> what about her education. i know it is an incredible education going around the country or the world. has she already graduated from high school. >> no, she hasn't? a lot to think about with that one. coming up next, the doctor's in. you know the guy, anthony edwards from "e.r." he is here to chat about a movie that he is in. i'm madat anthony edwards already. >> he is probably best known as mark green on "e.r.." since then he has taken time off to spend with his family. >> but right now back working on feature films and dedicating time to a new charity. a great one called "motherhood." edwards struggles is to be a supportive husband while struggling with his wife's writing. >> i want to know what you really think. i want to know what you really feel. what makes you want to live a life with passion? no matter how many socks you have to pick up. >> what was the answer? >> she says, get out of the car. >> is that what she says? >> you're a good husband but an absent minded husband in this. any of the real anthony edwards in -- what's the name of oyour character? >> avery. >> my wife said type casting, big stretch here. no, it's a genetic thing. men are well intentioned, but they forget. >> this mov is unique and all shot in the course of a single day, right? >> 24 hours in the life of this mother and also in the west village and our writer/director catherine dekeman, we shot in her neighborhood. >> it looks so real. >> there's so much about it that you can relate as a parent and certainly as a mother. mothers have really gotten behind this movie in the prescreenings and we have a whole blog world of mothers that are supporting it. we spend a lot of years telling stories from a man point of view and, for me, this is like being the saloon girl in western. we've told all these cowboys. you know, it's written by a woman and shot by women and, men have dominated enough in that. >> you're not a big fan of certain women. listen, the most powerful forces in the world. we talk about them. be careful because you don't want to upset not father nature, it's mother nature. it's really -- >> we were just talking earlier inur chat about the young girl who is going to go sailing around -- anthony has a different perspective. you think it's okay for the 16-year-old to go sailing around. >> i met a lot of mature 16-year-old kids that have done terrific things. i grew up sailing and the village you communicate with sailors around the globe is so much better now. with the fact that we can global position and know where people are. it's different than -- i forget the guy who did it on "the dove" he must have been 17 or something, i remember. you know, i think the ability for people to rise to occasions is pretty remarkable. i understand as a parent this is not necessarily what you want. >> i just, you know, it's not that a child couldn't accomplish it, she probably would be able to. that's a long nine months as a parent, you know, where is my kid. second guessing yourself. yeah. but i think you have to have confidence in the fact that they will be able to communicate. >> all right, enough out of you. tell us about your -- your wonderful charity. >> we have this opportunity to build the largest and the first public ildren's hospital in kenya and we're an organization that works with shoes and africa and we're using it as a way to do running events and empower women and the empowerment of women to educate about aids and do it through sport in africa. we actually have had 30 entrance to the new york city marathon given to us for a charitable reason and i made the first call and said will you run for shoe for africa and i said, i have to do it. >> you're running marathons? >> november 1st. >> hoda would love to join you on that. she just did a triathlon. >> come run with us, part of it. you'll see us, we'll be in hospital scrubs. >> see, hoda. the things i do for you. anthony, great to see you. the movie is called "motherhood" and opens this friday and i watched it and it is terrific. boy, you just feel for mothers. hot flashes, night sweats, crazy hormones. >> all about my life. this morning as part of our series, a woman's nation we are talking about menopause. >> why does it happen, what is going on in your body and how to cope with the symptoms is a subject many of us know a little too well. >> i have my menopause survival kit so i'm all set for the day. >> oh, mama. >> it's so clear why you got the role. >> apparently she has a don't sweat it fan. >> menopause. >> changes. >> i'm a little nervous because one of our big subjects is menopause and your sex life. >> frank has been through menopause with three women. >> you do get a little moody. there will be hell to pay. >> it's how menopausal woman do it. >> i missed my period. >> i have not slept through the night. >> i know i'm not sleeping well lately. >> do you get up and do things? >> i write. your estrogen levels are decreasing rapidly. very hormonal today, i apologize. >> extremely warm in here. >> cool me down ice cube tray. >> we are wearing sleeveless today. we're not just doing it because we like wearing sleeveless. >> i do it because i'm hot and menopausal. >> i'm the one with hot flashes. good thing i'm hot because guess what just came up. spray away your hot flashes. i have to hold in my menopot. >> post-menopausal woman wearing a tiara and a slash. >> don't ever take on a post-menopausal woman. you're going to lose. >> i didn't realize it was quite that often so i apologize to everybody out there. dr. christian is a boa certified obgyn creating physical and mental health called what we call the change. >> great to see you. >> we know we get hot and kind of cranky a how else would you describe menopause? >> the final period. you have to have no period for a year and then you know you're past menopause what you're talking about perimenopause and then you get symptoms -- >> a couple more years after. >> symptoms because of usually falling progesterone levels, not just estrogen. >> why do we get so hot? >> a neuroend christian thing in the brain. the stress hormones always make hot flashes much worse, which is why in meditation you can cool hot flashes 90% of the time. >> stress related, aren't they? >> very much stress related. you think why i'm stressful, hello. >> i think there's fabulous news with menopause. haven't you noticed -- >> give me some good news. >> the brain changes so you have more wisdom than you ever had before, more clout. you don't have much patience with no longer works in your life. your body will not let you continue the bad health habits that you had leading up to menopause, if you want to stay healthy. you come to a crossroads one place says grow and the other says die. you don't have the wiggle room you used to. >> hormone replacement therapy is something some women need and some women don't. >> we have some women who have their ovaries removed for various reasons. they have five times the rate of mental disorders and depression and so on. this is the new mayo clinic study. >> keep your ovaries. >> the ovaries do something. but some women cannot make the metabolic changes in their body necessary to stay healthy and they need hormone therapy. we're now calling it hormone therapy, ht. this is not a deficiency disease in many women. >> it has come on at bad times, as well. it can cause certain cancers. i went on the lowest dose of estrogen and it made me an alien. >> some women just need a little progesterone and some need to change their diet. >> what about other natural remedies? >> does soy work? >> soy works and fish oil works and an herb known as black and there's a lot of good studies on this, but it's not main stream because we've thought of hormones as the answer, but there are so many other things women can do. >> you say there's good news for the women in the sexual area, as well. some 60 and 70-year-old women, it's only suzanne sommers, as far as i'm concerned. everybody else is struggling a little bit. >> this is the research of gina ogden, the largest sex survey ever done showing it is women in their 60s and 70s having the best sex of their lives. >> let's end there because that's perfect. >> good news. >> thank you very much. >> we'll be back to answer your questions about swine flu. and suzanne sommers is here. snoof. not enough to go around. the cancellation of flights and a short supply, we'll have details. coming up on news 4 midday, with just two weeks left, a new poll is released. which over the last few months we have been bombarded with information and advice about the h1n1 virus and how to protect our selves and our families. >> wash your hands often and steer clear of friends coming down with a cold and avoid crowded areas. all these things can help, but is there more you can do? >> here with the latest information, founder and creator of the world clinic and a new york obgyn. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> people are starting to get very nervous. they should not panic you're telling us. why? >> it's not time to panic because there are still things you can do to not get the swine flu. you want to behave sensibly. we know it is coming and we know swine flu slots are coming. >> the swine flu is here. >> it took a vacation during the summer and moved down to the, you know, australia, new zealand where they were having their winder winter. our winter is coming and that is the season of flu and we start rebreathing each other's air and that sets up the circumstances to get it. >> on "60 minutes" they're say figure you stand within ten feet of someone with the swine flu you're very likely to get the swine flu. is that something -- >> yes, but people shouldn't be hysterical about this. people will not be able to function and be relaxed. >> sneeze into your fabric. >> exactly. it's important not to touch your eyes, nose, mouth and be sensible and not be scared. >> who is the most -- yes, susceptible. who is at risk? >> pregnant women are at risk. in the event they get sick, they could get sicker and increased mortality rates amongst women who are pregnant with h1n1. patients with hiv adults and also children with as mu and lung disease and things like that. >> quite a few ladies who are pregnant here on our staff and they're all very, very concerned and is it safe for the fetus, as well for the baby at a certain point or if you're in your first trimester, should you still get it? >> if you're talking about the vaccine, eoman should get the vaccine regardless of where they are during the course of the pregnancy. if the woman has the virus during the course of the pregnancy it could have varying dependencies. during the first trimester keep your fever down because when a woman is exposed to a high fever it could have adverse effects on the fetus. >> some people are saying they are afraid of getting the swine flu vaccine, they just don't want to get it. >> because they think they'll get swine flu. tell us about that. >> vaccinations is a good idea. the number of lives saved by vaccinating people is far, far, far greater by the order of millions over people who have had a reaction to the vaccine. we have been at this for four or five years now and the numbers are really solid. get vaccinated. >> the problem is, the vaccines aren't there. the production hasn't caught up with need. >> we are behind on seasonal flu vaccine by 25% and we're a little bit behind on swine flu vaccine. nevertheless, the vaccine itself, we have a long track record of how this stuff is made and, you know, the proteins involved on a really cellular level. >> see, are you planning to get the vaccine, yes 30%. and no almost 50%. >> is that because people are ill informed? >> yes, they're ill informed and folks on the internet who are putting out blogs that are stating miruths -- >> what are they? >> they're cherry picking facts this person here or an anecdote here of a person who had a reaction to a vaccine and they're scaring people away from it. but, really, the science here is straight forward. vaccination works. >> this is interesting. this came out of purdue university and the h1n1 vaccine will arrive too late to help most americans. it will infect 6 0% of the u.s. population. they're saying even if you get it, it's too late. i wouldn't agree with that. >> i wouldn't agree with that. >> i wouldn't either. it should be administered when it becomes available and be aware of it and the preparation method with the swine flu vaccine is similar to the preparation method of the regular flu vaccine. people are now accepting of the seasonal flu vaccine. there are clinics administering the vaccine and patients could accept this and you would hope they are more acceptae to the swine flu. >> people don't know the flu and the swine flu. do you have the exact same symptoms? any way, this one i need to be more in tune with? >> well, 99.4% of all influenza since may is swine flu. if you look historically, this is what happens when big pandemics happen. little bit in the spring and then roaring in the winter. >> if you could get it, i was told you could get one in one arm and the other in the other. is that okay? >> as long as it is dead vaccine. >> we are showing all these masks. does this stuff work? i know people are trying to protect them selves. >> some of them work and some aren't so hot. >> which one is a good one. >> that looks like a surgical mask you would see in a hospital. >> you said this is a dixieup is just about as good. this is a very, very good one. >> why? >> couple of features. one, there's two bands. do you mind if i put this on? >> on you? >> sure. >> not on us. >> i'll tell you why, the key is, you have to get it on right and you have to get a really good seal and then you'll filter 95%. >> where would one buy that? >> where could you even get it? >> i've seen these at target, actually. >> you can get these at home depot. any hardware store. these are traditionally made for guys doing fine sanding. it has to be an n95. >> n as in no, 95. >> when you put these things on. put this one on real quick. just like this. one strap high and take this other strap and bring it down low and then two hands and squeeze your nose. >> it seals it. >> you know you're good and there's no air. >> it's so attractive, too. >> does it come in designer colors? >> leopard. >> thank you, such important information. coming up next, suzanne sommers, right after this. last november actress suzanne somer was misdiagnosed with fullody cancer. she walked out of the hospital and headed to a folder she kept full of doctors names that were practicing nonchemo nonradiation ways of treating cancer. >> her new book "knockout" are interviews with this doctor. controversial. how are you, baby? >> somebody's got to do it. >> you were told you have full-body cancer. >> here's what the onccologist said when he walked into my room. you have cancer, it's everywhere. i have never seen so much cancer. six different doctors diagnosed me to where i really saw my death and i said to my husband at one point, about day three, you know, if i have full-body cancer. lung cancer that mu tabicized i have two weeks, two months, normally alan would go, nah and he said, we do. >> he had been through this with you before. >> what was the truth? >> a rare fungus which is the easy nameis valley fever, people have it in the desert southwest. it's a fungus that's in the top two layer of soil. i kept saying in the hospital couldn't this be a poisoning or severe allergic attack, something knocked out my immune system. i don't know what happened. after i got out of the hospital i said, i started calling these doctors to find out what are you doing? for me it was so hopeless in the hospital and what i learned is something, that it doesn't matter to me what you choose in the end. that's not of my concern, but the two times i have been diagnosed, don't you want to know that there are people doing it in another way. >> you want choice. then make your own decisions. >> you interview all these doctors and you have to admit some are controversial. couple had issues with the law. >> but, please, let me protect them right there. they were both acquitted. dr. bruzinsky the fda tried to put him in jail for 300 years. his over 5,000 cured cancer patients marched in front of the courthouse saying he saved my child from brain tumors and they fought the fda and won. they always go after this ind t indictment thing and they broke into his house and put a gun to his forehead and handcuffed him and put his wife on the floor because he prescribed hgh and when he went to court after his reputation was ruined they found that the person to whom they prescribed it had a human growth hormone deficiency. why are they going after these doctors. >> you say it's because it's a $200 billion industry and there are people out there that don't want you to be well. >> that's right. well, don't want you to be right. if these doctors who i think for me are right. for me. i'm saying, this is all personal choice. if i had cancer again i would go to gonzalez or brysinski. >> you're talking about all natural remedies. >> no, no. dr. brysinski escaped the iron curtain from poland. he got out with 50 bucks d his slides. he came here, went to md anderson and did his work and found that people with cancer are missing a certain peptide in our livers that controls cell multiplication and i don't know other doctors who can say that and he has a 60% success rate with the worst brain tumors and he's doing such great work with liver, lung, prostate, breast. >> we want to clear up this quote. this is what you said in september. you were quoted as saying they took a beautiful man and put poison in his body and why couldn't they build him up nutritionally. was that respecting someone's choice? >> it was 2:00 in the morning at tom ford's party and i didn't know, it was an interviewer, nonetheless, i shouldn't have said it. i have been through this chemo scare myself and watched farrah fawcett die and i had also, dr. gonzalez and forsight and blalock we all know in the therapy world that chemo does nothing for pancreatic cancer. it is a 99.8% death rate over a five-year period. that's not success to me. >> chemo sensitivity tests you could take that your body will say, this isn't going to work for you or this has a chance. why don't we take the sensitivity tests? >> if you're going to throw chemicals at someone, can we make sure it is the right fit? he said something that made me sick, i'm the messenger. it's too much work. got to line-up all those petri dishes and put the blood in and find the right chemical thing and half a million people die every year. >> a lot of people who take chemo and are cancer free, period. >> and what we don't know is it in those three categories that i just mentioned where it is successful like lance armstrong. but i also in this book, i just want you to know that where have a section for those who are taking chemotherapy that make it more effective. this is a book for everybody. >> thanks for being here. >> we're so glad you're okay. >> it was (mom) our house is the house everyone's talking about. what? 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( laughing ) this morning's five things every woman should know is all about auto mechanics, not the guys that do it, but car repairs. have you checked your treads or tire pressure ever? >> ne. >> how about looking under the hood and checking the battery for corrosion? >> no. never done tt. a little knowledge can save you a lot of money if you do it yourself. you can reduce your chances of being ripped off by an auto shop. christy hyde is here to give us our lessons. >> how are you? >> i'm great. >> let's start off with the dashboard panel and sometimes the lights go off and sometimes you think it's nothing and sometimes you had it checked. >> why would you think it's nothing? >> i just checked it and now it's red again. >> maybe it wasn't fixed properly. >> tell us what we should be looking for? >> if anything comes on, don't ignore it. that is one of the worst things you can do. this is your oil light. now, people may see this and think it's time to go change the oil. you see this, this is the one you want to get on really quick. itsrapher not just out, your pressure is out. >> what's this one? >> you're overheating. if you see steam coming out from under the hood, pull over. steam will burn you and call for help. the next one we have is the battery. when you see this one on, turn everything electrical off in the car. turn off the air conditioning and get somewhere safe because you're probably not going to be able to start that car again and it won't keep running much longer. >> if you stop right there. >> if it comes on solid the emission system is going but if it's flashing, you need to get somewhere safe really fast because your catalytic converter is going. >> you're smart. what about the brake. >> once that goes, you still have brakes in two wheels, but you need to go get it checked out because you want brakes on all four wheels. >> i'm depressed. >> tires. >> how do you know? >> one of these is good and one is awful. you stick the quarter with washington's head down like this. you see, it's covering up part of washington's head, that's great. you do it over here. >> it has to cover up part of washington's head. >> the other thing is, when you're checking your tire pressure, don't go by the tire pressure listed on the side of this, that's wrong. you want to open up your driver's sitd door jam, there's a sticker there. >> why don't they tell you on the tire. >> because multiple tires can be used on different types of cars. >> you have to know your car. >> when there's stuff leaking out of your car and sometimes it comes in different colors. when should we be worried. >> this is the most common thing, that is water and that's okay. water condensation coming off your air conditioning unit. that's fine. >> green. >> coolant it could be blue, greener orc was or yellow. if you start to see that, get it checked out. these two are the biggies. transmission fluid and oil. these are flammable if they drip on something hot underneath the hood, they could catch on fire and the main rule when it comes to flus wouids dropping out, th bigger the problem, you have to get to the shop quicker. >> let's talk about when your battery looks corroded. >> that corrosion will keep from having a good connection and it won't start. you want to have a clean battery like this. >> should you replace it or just clean it up. >> this one is bad enough that it would need to be replaced and you can get it cleaned up. >> lastly -- >> your belts. this one is cracked and this one is good. you're a yegenius, thank you so much. and that is going to wrap it up for us today. tomorrow we'll tell you the five things every woman should know about her health. >> plus a little prehal
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