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Important than ever in choosing the next republican nominee. And speaking of republican president ial candidates, why is one courting the survivalist crowd by suggesting it is time to stock up and hoard supplies . Im chuck todd. Joining me for insight and analysis are nbcs Joe Scarborough Hillary Clintons former policy director, neera tanden Kathleen Parker of the Washington Post and sam stein of the huffington post. Welcome to sunday. Its meet the press. This is meet the press with chuck todd. A topic that dominated conversation around the world, the news that a plane crashed into the alps with 150 people on board was horrific enough. But the story took a bizarre and even more disturbing turn when it became clear that the copilot had deliberately slammed it into the mountain, turning it into a mass murder. Were learning more about that pilot Andreas Lubitz every day and a picture is emerging of a mentally disturbed man who never should have been allowed in the cockpit. For the latest on trying to find out about this pilot, im joined by nbcs katy tur, in the pilots hometown of montabaur, germany. What more have we learned about andreas and about what happened in those final moments . Reporter well, even more horrifying tee inging details are coming out. A newspaper here in germany, the largest tabloid, is reporting on a timeline of the final moments of that plane. They said the pilot mentioned when they take off that he hadnt gone to the bathroom in copilot lubitz says you should go while were in the air, the pilot doesnt respond. Once they reach altitude the pilot says that he will go, gets up goes to the bathroom, next thing you here is the door clicking shut and the pilot banging on the door saying open the damn door and then him taking an ax to the door as the passengers scream. This is being reported by a newspaper out here. Nbc news has not been able to verify it. But if it is true, it is chilling details of the final moments. Theyre also reporting a lot on his medical condition. The New York Times reports that he had eye issues that would have prevented him from flying in the future. There are also reports there was depression involved here. So far nbc news hasnt been able to verify that either. But the Prosecutors Office did find doctors notes, torn up doctors notes inside the home, before the day of the crash that were in the given to lufthansa ones that would have excused him from work. Theyre looking into all of this now and trying to piece together exactly what was going on inside his mind at the time of chuck . Katy tur thank you very much. I know youll keep reporting and building a profile of this pilot. Im joined by nbcs aviation correspondent, tom costello bowen, an Aviation Psychology expert from embryriddle aeronautical university. Welcome to you both. Tom, following up on this report this morning, you hear an ax. There are axes on airplanes . There is an ax we know for sure in the cockpit, thats standard procedure. But there is also according to lufthansa, they have one hidden in the passenger compartment, and only the crew members know where that ax might be. So we were a little surprised by that as well to find there is an ax somewhere hidden in the cabin, but apparently there is. Now, we cant confirm the bilds reporting that the pilot was using an ax to try to get through the door. But in theory, there is an ax in the cabin. Were having a larger conversation about Mental Health and Mental Fitness of pilots. I think were finding out that there isnt a lot of Mental Health checks done of pilots. Is that right, erin . Right. The psychological assessments that are available for use, typically at the time of new hire for Airline Pilots, are not the types of tools that would detect Mental Illness. Theyre primarily things like personality inconvenientventoryies. Interesting here according to a guide for the aviation medical examiners, the faa does not expect an examiner to perform a formal psychiatric examination, however the examiner should form a general impression of the emotional stability and mental state of the applicant. There is no Mental Health check . No because those tools just arent as sophisticated as the medical examines and diagnostic tests you can get annually for your physical. Youre talking about during the year, the yearly physical. Not a mental physical. But there is a psychological workup that is done before and during the hiring process that is rather rigorous, but not during the yearly physical. Not an annual thing that is done . Well, only you know better than i, but as i understand it you would ask cursory questions. Right. So your physician, when you go into your aviation medical examiner, would ask questions about your sleep, any Substance Abuse alcohol use personal life, stressors, but theyre not trained psychiatrists or psychological experts. Theyre primary care physicians. Does that need to change . No, actually. I dont think it does. Psychological assessments are not magic diagnostic tools that would tell us this is an individual with depression who is imminently going to crash a plane full of innocent passengers. Theyre just not that sophisticated. Tom there was a time where if you had any Mental Health condition, you were not allowed to be a licensed commercial Airline Pilot. They had to ease those restrictions. In 2010, the faa changed the rules, essentially acknowledging that people are living with depression and certain Mental Health issues every single day and do so very well in this country. They take meds, they get therapy. So in 2010, the faa came out and said, listen, if you selfdisclose if you come to us and say im dealing with personal issues, im dealing with Mental Health and depression, and what have you, i would like to seek help, the faa says fine thats all right, well take you out of the cockpit for a year, if you get that help and you can come back and be in the cockpit and be on some antidepressants, for example, including zoloft, then thats all right. If you function well, if youre cleared by a doctor. You have to selfreport. You have to selfreport. There is an incentive to selfreporting. If you dont selfreport and those meds show up in your yearly blood work, then youre talking about suspension or fines. So there is an incentive. Erin we should be relieved here in this country mr. Lubitz would have never qualified to be an Airline Pilot in this country right . Not according to the restrictive atp requirements. You need 1500 hours of flight time or a thousand hours from a qualified approved school in order to be a copilot. There is no way this guy could have been a pilot here. I find this almost egregious that somebody who has lufthansa, this is not like this is the Gold Standard for airlines around the world, and since 2013, this guy had been a first officer and only accumulated up to 630 hours in total . In the United States, you can nobt not be a first officer, but this comes after the colgan aircraft where we saw crew members not up to the job in the cockpit didnt have enough training and experience, and were subpar in terms of the captain and the performance and the testing. For lufthansa to be hiring somebody with so few hours is concerning. Very quickly. I would disagree this say failure of training. This is a Mental Health issue. At 630 hours more than capable pilot and up to four years ago, a more than capable pilot in the United States. This is really a Mental Health failure and a failure for us to recognize and change the culture and industry. Erin bowen, tom costello thank you, both. Lets bring in the panel, Joe Scarborough, neera tanden, Kathleen Parker, sam stein. Kathleen, you wrote about this, this week, monster in the sky. I feel like were having were about to have the same conversation we had when we talked about the shooting in aurora or shooting in were talking about Mental Health issues and maybe thats the conversation we should be having. Im always happy to talk about Mental Health issues and we dont talk about it enough across the board. However, im not convinced that we know that this is absolutely a Mental Health circumstance. I mean the fact he might have had antidepressants in his daily regimen doesnt necessarily mean hes not capable of doing his job or that he was somehow fail in the air. There is no evidence that hes had some psychotic event thus far. I dont know how we would discover it, but the fact he had a rumbled up doctors excuse not to work that day doesnt to me confirm this is strictly a Mental Health problem. Fair enough. But i have to say joe you start finding out, we dont really check we dont do Mental Health checkups for pilots. We all fly a lot. Thats a little disconcerting to me. I get on the plane last night to come up we got the end of the kids spring break, i walk up and turn to the pilot and say, are you happy . You doing okay . And the pilot just looked at me and said, any suicidal thoughts, everything okay . And the guy laughed. He got what i was talking about. But you always look at the pilot, especially as you get older and you realize the pilots are younger and younger and now some of those pilots are younger than my 27yearold son. So there has to be some Mental Health screening. It is just like when somebody tried to get on a plane with liquid to blow things up. Now we do the i will say this, lets celebrate something that the federal government does right in this country, aviation. We see all around the world one crash after another one unexplained crash after another, you know. Tip our hats i was going to say they do a great job, knock on wood. Before you jump in later in the show, i have this interview with Patrick Kennedy i did, and one part hes become this big Mental Health advocate. Listen to what he says, he thinks we need to make Mental Health more of a normalized thing when it comes to medical. 40,000 suicides and counting a year 16,000 overdoses more than are killed in car accidents, the epidemic of addiction and Mental Illness in this country and were paralyzed as a nation in the way that we cope with it. Were doing a lot of oneoffs, but we have no agenda for Mental Health and addiction. He continued, his hope is that the way you get an annual physical you do the same thing an annual mental physical. And there would be no stigma to that. You know, we dont spend relatively that much money on Mental Health services in this country somewhere under 6 of our National Health care spending. So clearly there is room for growth there. Science and research, the Brain Initiative to give us science into this thing. With the context of this we need to remember two things. Aviation safety is pretty good and keeps Getting Better year by year. And, two, one of the problems here was not the Mental Health, but the fact that europe doesnt have the tools in the cockpit. In the United States, this man would have never been alone in the cockpit, a copilot there at all times. In europe, that wasnt the case f there had been somebody else there, we probably would have had different circumstances. Were celebrating American Government regulation. I think if we make Mental Health screening more regular, it takes away the stigma, which is one of the reasons why it is important in the u. S. That we had the kind of safe director we had had. And what Patrick Kennedy talks about, started with kids. We need to start it early. And then normalize. You brought this up, it is a very important point, we talked about it after newtown and now, what is the line that connect us . It is Mental Health. We can talk about airline safety, but it goes back to Mental Health. We can talk about gun control at the end of the day, got to talk about Mental Health. Well pause here. When we come back, the latest on the Critical Nuclear talks with iran, the deadline were now hours away. And also if it seems as if were fighting both sides in the middle east, with iran and against them, well, it is because we are. Push your enterprise and you can move the world. But to get from the old way to the new, youll need the right it infrastructure. From a partner who knows how to make your enterprise more agile, borderless and secure. Hp helps businesses move on all the possibilities of today. 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Never shy to speak out on the fears the Prime Minister stated this morning that the deal that seems to be emerging is worse than he had feared. For the latest on talks i am joined by Andrea Mitchel and andrea theres a lot more about a deal getting done. Reporter there certainly is. This is 18 months of me dposh appreciating and days to go. There are some stumbling blocks. The biggest is that iran is refusing to give up the research and development that can be used for purposes and used to create Nuclear Weapons. The second Sticking Point is when theyre phased out and how quickly they can be lifted. Those are complications and both sides could be doing this for tactical reasons and u. S. Negative and iran positive and try to go blame each other. This is the first time that u. S. Officials are talking openly on what would happen if theres no deal. The fall out does that put the president in a stronger position domestically because of the skepticism on capital hill about a deal any way . It could. You have the democrats and republicans and iran opponents and leaders in the gulf and saudi not wanting this deal because they think that its not tough enough. More broadly with so many other problems the white house sees it as the legacy. Thats why they see it as the opposition. They want this badly. Do they want it too badly and the other point is technical. Its the limits. Limits on the program, and they have not violated them were told. If theres no deal all bets are off and they can do what they want and stop un inspectors from getting in. I know that youre going to be there as this thing is hammered out as it does. Thank you. For inside on how the negotiations are conducted i am joined by talks over the Nuclear Weapons program in 2005 and 2008 and ambassador hill welcome to meet the press. Let me start with what you heard as the Sticking Point. Take us inside this room. You have been at this point before. You hear this pessimism. Is it real or are they playing with us a little bit . I they its a little of both. Certainly from the u. S. Advantage point they have to go back to washington and kind of over sell the deal. The deal is so hinged on technical issues that its going to be hard to sell. It just does not sing when you bring it back to people. At the same time the irans need to come back and say that we just got all the sanctions lifted, and its clear that this is going to be tough. For both sides its not a nice and clean deal, so both sides are going to have a he can of a time selling it back in capitals. I think that some of it is very real. You know when you look here were at a point this week and you look at the developments and getting in getting involved there, how can the United States be helping to strengthen iran and the region by cutting a deal on the front and at the same time that could cause maybe more problems for the allies like saudi arabia . Well theyre facing tough times and going through recession and have iraq on the northern border and anything goes there. Now they have the rebellion in yemen. So from the perspective, these are tough times. Then from the perspective they look at the deal with iran and what she see is something that goes bow beyond the nuclear issue. They see some kind of emerging or i should say reemerging partnership with the u. S. And iran. From the perspective they look back and they saw a u. S. That considered or considered iran their main factor many the middle east so the saudis do not want to see that kind of issue. So from their perspectives things have been very tough especially about iran and then by the way were asking them to go after the radical saunis in isis. So its been quit a tough time. Okay. So why is iran why is not one of the points of negotiation forcingize forcing israels right to exist . Well its probably a bridge too far. Iran is very split. You have the smart people and they have their own agenda to push back the. They have no interest in pulling back from issues and syria and support for terrorists groups and so its very theyre very split themselves. Not like the situation that we have in washington. Finally i want to get you to react to another former were ambassador about the president obamas middle east policy. He said this. This is james jeffrey. He said were in gosh darn free fall here. He did not use gosh darn when referring to the middle easts policy. Do you agree . I think frankly theres so much different stuff going on that its a new policy and the real difficulty is explain it to people. It seems to have a counter cross impulse, but overall theres a successful effort to push back isis. The concern is that were im empowering the militia groups. As long as syria is the exporter its going to be very tough in the region. Ambassador hill thanks for the viewpoints on this. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Staying on the supth of iran leaders have agreed to establish a joint military force as saudi lead air strikes on rebels continue across yemen. Despite the air strikes theyre continuing to advance south sazas they continue to take the country. As our chief foreign corresponder says the u. S. Is stuck on both side of a proxy war that could consume the region. Saudi jets took off about 100 hours after american advisers were forced to evacuate under the cover of night. Here rebels and muslims have to throw u. S. Government on the run. At the same time that the u. S. Finds itself fighting iran on one hand its working with iran on the other. In iraq theyre giving back air support. In switzerland its negotiating with iran and yemen the u. S. Left the fight against the iran rebels and in syria the u. S. Is supporting the fight against iran and the allie and with iran with isis. We do not seem to be to the people in the region and the person people pursuing and presenting an overall strategy that will defeat the really bad forces in that region. The former u. S. Ambassador say that the suni state lead is going their own way because they can not be relied on what they see. Leaders today called for the creation of the United States standing arab army. It will stand against iran. Theres a proxy war under way thats big and expanding between saudi and other nations against iran and the administration is trying and failing to play both sides of it confusing its friends and em boiling the enemies. I am joined by the saudi ambassador and welcome to meet the press. Thank you. Let me start with a basic question. What is saudis objective in getting involved . Were there to protect the people of yemen by the occupation of a radical group thats turning addradicalism. We want to restore peace in a country thats been good to us. Before you started the air strikes our commander general austin said that he was only told about the attacks one hour before they began, and he did this at a hearing and john mccain said that was a commentary and he thought that said more about the relationship that its deteriorateing. Is he right . I dont think that its deteriorating. Its very very strong. We have talks about the option of using force with the United States for many months. This became much more serious in the last few weeks and they run up to making the decision and putting it together and in touch with the white house about this and the decision to use military force was made at the last moment because of the developments that were happening with regards and the potential occupation of adden and so i can see how somebody would say that we knee about the decision was made at the last minute but the thinking and planning. You were sharing this with the United States . Absolutely. The United States is fully on board . Absolutely. The u. S. Would not be working with us if they were not on board. Why would you send Ground Troops in . So far its an air campaign and we have a plan in motion and executing this plan. Okay. What would be the reason that you would send Ground Troops in if adden falls . We have to see. Were not seeing this issue. Were determined to degrade and destroy and determined to protect villages and the people of yemen, so we will continue this campaign until the objectives are achieved. Should we be calling this a proxy war. Its from a group and i would not call it the proxy war because were doing this to protect yemen. Can a strong iran and saudi exist . Its up to the irans. We have encountered many problems and there have not been one against iran and we have ex tenlded the hand and ex friend rejected for the past 35 years. Its up to iran. We would like to have friendly relations because its good for the region but decision not to have friendly relationships is the result of the actions of the irans. Can the u. S. Help you against iran and help them lift sanctions on the Nuclear Front . I believe the negotiations are something that the whole world wants to succeed. You want a deal . We want a solid deal that denies them tohe ability to make nuclear weapon. A solid deal so were waiting to see the results of the negotiations before we access the deal. You declined to rileule out the idea that saudi would pursue the own Nuclear Program if they would not be stopped from getting a nuclear weapon. Is that a Fair Assessment . I said that we would not discuss it in public. If you were going to say no you would say no. We have to protect our people and do what it takes and access the threat and see how were going deal with it. What is the United States do you believe the United States have to do more to support them right now . Have they done enough or do you think that they have been doing what they have been doing for year sns. Where regard to yemen, were ples pleased with what we get from the United States. We have a strong terrorism cooperation and military operation and commercial ties. Were pleased with the relationship. We want to work more with the United States and iraq to have the role of the militias and to keep iraq united and independent independent. The growth of isis would this happen with the suni extremism without individuals in saudi quietly helping these guys out . I dont know if thats a fair thing to make. They have tried we have captured captured. Were fighting them as we speak so if theyre individuals and the kingdom that are providing the funding to isis, we will punish them. All right. Ambassador thanks for coming on meet the press. Were going take a quick break and when we come back the latest on 2016 and hillarys email problem that wont be whipped away. Away from our server. 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Two senators announced this week they wont be running for reelection. One, you may not have heard about. Republican dan coats of indiana. The man you just heard from, of course, is Senate Minority leader harry reid who will leave after five terms in office, that makes four senators, by the way, three of them democrats who will not be returning and announce a retirement. No more bashers inrbers in the senate. Republicans hold a 5446 majority. But 2016 is rocky ground for republicans. 23 seats are held by republicans that are up compared to 10 democratic seats because of the 20 10 wave. This much we know. Harry reids retirement means two new faces. A new senator from nevada and new leader f lets bring in the panel, joe, Chuck Schumer, for harry reid what changes do you expect . Thats a big tradeup for the Democratic Party and america. Trade up . Trade up. Harry reid is majority leader in the senate and the tea party in the house it was a disastrous combination. Chuck schumer is an interesting person who not only will be better for his party, because it is going to be be able to tateke the message to americans more. Like tip oneill, one thing he hates more is gridlock and getting nothing done. I think were all better off now. I agree with almost everything there except harry reid was described as this guy the behind the scenes guy and harry reid was the guy the republicans secretly cut deals with they couldnt deal can tom daschle. Does the job itself polarize you. Harry reid used to be what joe described. I think it is polarizing a little bit. I think harry reid responded to the tea party. The truth is that harry reid felt like he couldnt get anything done and he became more of a fighter. I do agree completely with chuck with joe that chuck is important on message hes a fighter for the middle class et cetera. I think being a spokesperson for the party hell do a better job. I think that we have to make the government has to function going forward. So i hope we Chuck Schumer is not camera shy. Harry reid some of the Progressive Left think Chuck Schumer is too close to wall street. Yes. How, you know he made sure there is nobody harry reid, they closed ranks. I was talking to a couple of democrats about this. Usually democrats are disorganized, dysfunctional, but their succession has been thats very republicanlike. I know. And orderly. The thing is like you said harry reid is viewed skeptically by the left and will be forever remembered for two legislative accomplishments, Health Care Reform which never would have happened without him and the second is the filibuster reform that allowed him to reshape the judiciary in this country for a generation to come. The one thing ill say about him as a tactician, he may not have been the most camera ready person, but he was a tactician. He established a super pac even though he hated it he was vicious going after he was a party boss. He was an oldfashioned party boss. I think obviously he didnt want he harry reid may have been responding to the tea party as the republicans on the other side. But he also refused to bring anything to the floor that the republicans put out there. If schumer is willing to bring things to the floor thats an improvement. She took what bill fritz created in gridlock and perfected it. You talk about harry reid as the tactician, the politician, the fundraiser. His legacy in the last election will be disastrous. He decided to nationalize the election around charles coe. Nobody knew. Nobody cared. And he wasted so much money for the democrats. I want to we get to Hillary Clinton news and, neera tell me how you feel. Really . I got to ask. So you sit here, she wiped the server clean. Politically it m sense. Why have something there you might have to turn over to congress. I understand the tactic. But doesnt it feed this idea that they were hiding something . Can we just step back a little bit and recognize that this whole thing started when benghazi and the reason why were at this phase of this scandal machine is because they didnt find emails they wanted to find showing she did something. Come on. Wait a minute. The emails were under subpoena at the time she destroyed them. And saying it makes perfect sense, pat buchanan is saying it makes perfect sense that nixon should have burned the tapes. These emails were under she turned over, exactly. She turned over 55,000 she selected, though. Just like any gang up on neera time. Lets get the big picture. Doesnt this play look, i understand republicans overreach, the clintons are probably overprotective, but is that the stalemate that america is looking for in 2016 . I think the fact that we are obsessed with this scandal et cetera, is the thing that people hate about washington. Were not obsessed about it. Were asking a question. When you have emails and records that are under subpoena, you decide unilaterally to set up your own system and then decide that youre going to wipe out the entire system. No, no. Hold on. No. No no. Number one, she turned over all the state Department Emails. As far as we know. By her own word. By her own word. Everybody in government has personal email. They make a decision what is personal, whats not. Thats true for everybody. Shes releasing the state Department Emails going beyond where everyone else has gone. And i would say look, when she runs for president assuming she runs shell be able to talk about these issue and talk about the issues that people care about. No, no. And the fact that everybody has i got to pause it here. I got to pause it here. We dont know if a single thing you said is correct or not. No, we dont, because youre taking Hillary Clintons word for it and nobody would take george w. Bushs all right. I got to all right. Timeout. Timeout. 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The location of senator ted cruzs president ial campaign announcement, the christian even very conservative liberty university, was a signal that the senator is aware of the power of the evangelical vote. Voters who call themselves evangelical christians have given hope to multiple primary candidates in the past. In fact, they propelled the former governor of arkansas Mike Huckabee to a win in iowa with 34 of the vote in 2008. In 2012, it was former senator Rick Santorum who ended up winning the iowa caucuses, barely, and success was also largely due to one fact, eat van gel the evangelical vote. Neither was able to turn it into a successful nomination campaign, but the difference this time is the primary schedule. This could help ted cruz. Iowa is first. Looking back at 2012 exit polls, evangelicals made up over a majority of republican voters, 57 . Well, two states later, you get to South Carolina, third up overall in 2012 evangelicals made up 65 of the gop primary vote. This year success in iowa and South Carolina could mean more momentum and more money heading into this election cycles game changer. What were calling the s. E. C. Primary. Here whats happening. For you noncollege football fans out there s. E. C. Stands for the southeastern conference. And multiple Southern States are in talks to set their primary on the same day resulting in a super evangelical tuesday. Georgia, alabama, tennessee, mississippi, arkansas and texas. The thing the states have in common, evangelicals make up the largest portion of the United States. 24 of the population in texas. 39 in mississippi. 41 of the population in alabama. So the proposed primary could give a candidate like ted if he is the sole evangelical candidate moment test test test test relevancy but an actual shot of the nomination. Imagine that. Be could be a big deal. More on this and the pitfalls of this path can be found at you can call me shallow. But, i have a wandering eye. I mean, come on. 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It came out at a family dinner and Ed Schlossberg was the one who had this nugget of an idea would be thent it be great to have an institute for the United States senate. It was for the study of the senate. And teddy thought his eyes lit up and he said, yes. The 68,000 square foot building that bares his name is about more than just the late senators legacy. Using todays technology, the institute aims to teach visitors about the history of the senate, and inspire future legislators through an experiential way of learning. Every single visitor into this institute will have the opportunity to cast a vote as a United States senator. And sit in a replica of the senate chamber. Welcome to our United States senate chamber. A perfect replica, huh . Close. Here student groups can debate, negotiate and vote on issues, learning how to Work Together to get legislation passed something that senator kennedy was famous for. This is where teddy sad. He always sat here. Always loved sitting in the back. A lot of older senators they have been here in a while they want to move up front want the front row seat. He stayed in the back which meant he was always with the newbies. He liked reaching out to both sides of the aisle. His ability to Work Across Party Lines is a constant theme at the institute. Another theme when you walk through here, bipartisanship bipartisanship, bipartisanship. Especially in the back corner of the building, where there is a temporary exhibit honoring the senator and a permanent replica of his washington office. We talked for a moment in 2008 when the senator returned to washington for the First Time Since he was diagnosed with brain cancer to cast the key vote needed to pass a medicare bill. I ran up to the family gallery to watch it and i remember an usher coming up to me and saying, now, we usually dont allow noise in the gallery, but it will be all right to applaud. And i just it is the first time it dawned on me there would be this reception and it was quite amazing. The walls of the office are lined with family photos and letters marking important moments. What tv show could this be . What could this be . Could this be meet the press. She insists the institute is more about than just her late husband. We have this wonderful exhibit, but it is about the senate he loved, it is about public service, it is about inspiring the next generation to be involved. That is the spirit of ted kennedy. That is what he wanted this place to be. During my visit, i also down with one of senator kennedys sons, former congressman Patrick Kennedy. He shared thoughts on what his father would think about the state of politics today. Were in a period of history like many others, where we think this will be the way it always is. It is not. It is going to change. The key is how is it going to change. Are we going to move it toward better days ahead or think, oh, it is all for not and not even begin to try . So my dad was always an optimist optimist. Having overcome so many of his own personal challenges and political challenges. I mean this was a guy that everyone loved. Why . Because he persevered. And what is the senate snead to do but persevere and become the place that my dad wanted always for it to be, a place where major conflicts were resolved for the national interest. Not for either partys interest, but for the national interest. What is it that current senators now should learn from your dad about how it is you can work across the aisle . I think the personal etiquette of trying to make an effort to understand what is going on in the other persons life, personally, because youre working with them. Thats how he did. He forged personal bonds. He and orrin hatch hatch, i think got elected bashing your dad. He says it. He came to washington to counteract my dads vote, orrin hatch did and ended up cutting every deal in the world because he knew it was going to pass if ted kennedy signed off on it and he was sponsor of it boom, everyone else would say, well, gee, if theyre for it, then bang. What a revolutionary concept. Nothing wrong with a few base hits. Nothing wrong. I think it was the personal courtesies, i go back to that. There isnt a person i talk to today that doesnt tell me all the time that my dad would write a nice note at some event in their lives and he took a interest in them personally. I heard you describe how great this will be for kids to learn. Vicki describing it that way. I think there are u. S. Senators that could learn something here. What were describing how the senate future u. S. Senators will may have had their spark of imagination born in a place like this. What with a your dad be thinking . He would be so happy. And then i can picture him coming behind here. He would get so excited if he saw the kids come running through the doors. Two joys in this life kids and the senate. He would be in heaven. He is in heaven. This is going to be carrying on the legacy he fought so hard for, to make this a better country for the future. Should be fun having a senate museum. After a short break well be back with our endgame segment and tell you about the candidate who seems to be courting the saving money is as simple as making small changes in your daily routine. If you make coffee at home instead of buying it every morning, you can save over 1,000 a year. No coffee is that good. The more you know. Time now for meet the press endgame. And the panel is back here for endgame. Sam stein, another big political topic of the week is indiana. New law, governor mike pence signed in, some accuse this law, religious freedom law this would legalize discrimination against gays and lesbians. Huge corporate pushback. Now governor pence is back tracking, trying to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, i believe in the law but ill get some clarity. Defenders say there is nothing new here. You have to put it in the context. Were about to have the Supreme Court decision that most people predict will legalize same sex marriage across the country. And then they come in and say you have a right to say no to a gay customer, and ive been shocked by the corporate pushback too. Angiesly, april lyist, apple theyre saying they dont want to do business with a state that does this. Nothing seems to scare people more than pushback. Corporate america, oh my gosh. Well, you know, yes. Exactly. I think in this case you know you cant really imagine that at this point were actually going to think about legitimizing discrimination against a customer. Remember the signs im having grown up in the south, the signs in the windows that says we dont serve whom ever. Harkens back to that and it is so offensive on a deep level, even though i do believe firmly in protectingous freedom to the extent we can within the pounds s bounds of fairness. There is no bounds. It is pretty much you dont want to serve someone and you can say i have a religious view of it, there is no limitation to it. I think corporations it will send a signal. There is the evangelical Community Feels as if theyre under siege now, culturally. Youll hear a lot of candidates use this phrase, religious freedom. It will be code for, im against same sex marriage but im not going to say it. Well, the evangelical groups felt under siege for past five, six years. It is hard to imagine how quickly this issue moved. In 2004 republicans won states because of antigay marriage initiatives across the globe. Across the country t was part of karl roves strategy. Ten years, 11 years later were telling people who make cakes in muncie, indiana, that you have to i think the Supreme Court is going to come along and say you have to serve cakes to people that are getting married whether you whether it goes against your religious beliefs or not. I think you sign on, you pay a dollar this will be a wedge issue. Youll face pressure to say youre against and then mainstream establishment saying these we cant go this direction. This sort of ties into a little lighter note, but weird note here, Mike Huckabee, could be a Strong Social conservative candidate, in this field set up this odd email, his email list and sold an advertisement too and comes across the subject, number one item you should be hoarding. Are obama and fema going to buy up all the food . It is a pitch for survivalist food. And, you know, i guess i go joe and i grew up in florida. You did actually you do, every year prepare for hurricanes. There is nothing wrong with that. We were preparing for this is going to the next level of Conspiracy Theory here. A little embarrassing. I dont think we have to worry about that. But i think people are concerned about, mine this is what huckabee is referring to really is when things get uneasy when the masses become uneasy thats not happening here in america. Not yet, not yet but very quickly this is a followup to what he had had in 1994 when we called the black helicopter crab. There it is. Survival we will be in recess. Thats all for today. Were back next week. Because if its sunday, its meet the press