There is a genuine patriotic moment that happened on the ice, the shot heard around the world. Oh, she. It was the sixth round of the shootout. Eighth round. Usa, russia hockey and the shot which we can show here of that final shootout which is always great in a hockey game. He shoots, he scores and what a moment, but poor jonathan quick. Pretty good goaltending too. Oshie, yes. This moment of patriotism comes at a time when the this sensitivity between russia and the United States is real. Thats what struck me about it. This suddenly collective almost cold waresque rallying, and thats why there was so, it seemed as if there was such relief to beat putin. And putin was in the audience. My god, it was rocky iv met the miracle on ice. Where was drago . The only thing, and im sure you must have have felt a little bit of this, the only weird thing, as a Washington Capitals fan you see ovechkin once again on the losing side of the game. David, you do remember this cold war moment in the miracle on ice. A new generation watching the olympics. Yet that sensitivity is the real at a time of reset in our relationship with russia, what played out there was a genuine moment of we triumphed over the russians. Putin is trying to reset the reset. He seems nostalgic for the old days. The fact he was there, we want him to see it. Every american said great. A shoutout to the patrick kane from the blackhawks who was instrumental in the victory as well. I dont care about the capitals. Did you watch . Were you caught up in it . I saw the highlights. I think this dynamic with putin is so interesting to have him in the stands. We think of athletes from being walled off from domestic litics, but they are very aware. Its sort of that sixth sense of what theyre fighting for. We talk about the bush years. You go back to that time when after 9 11, there was a feeling that somehow russia was in the u. S. Orbit in a way it hadnt been before. To a watch over the course of the bush presidency that fall away and get to a point where things are now as strained as they are now, its a compelling backdrop to you and of that. We talk about the olympics, not just the competition but the security backdrop and the terror threats in sochi. I want to go to Richard Engel live with exclusive details about russias security crackdown. Richard, good to see you. Good to see you, david. I was actually in the stadium yesterday during that usa russia hockey game and it was an exciting moment. In terms of security so, far so good. The arrangements in place reveal a great deal about Vladimir Putin and how at the runs vast country, especially the vast caucasus. The most threatened olympic in modern history has so far been safe, not because of the ring of steel around sochi. We traveled 500 miles north of sochi to the north caucasus, the heart of russias insurgency and saw how Vladimir Putin is using a combination of crackdowns and payoffs to secure the games. This is grozny today, the capital of chechnya, clean, modern, a downtown that lights up like the vegas strip. Russia flattened this place twice in the 1990s when chechnya tried to breakaway after the collapse of the soviet union. At groznys new central mosque, we met the man who runs chechnya. Hes one of putins close friends, ramzan kadyrov. Hes one of putins close friends. It was a special day, a lock of hair believed to come from the muslim Prophet Muhammad was on display. The relic brought him to tears. Hes deeply religious and has aligned himself with russia. Two days later, we visited kadyrovs palace for a rare interview. Very nice to meet you. The city of grozny was famous for being completely destroyed. It has now been rebuilt. How did you rebuild the city . Translator we were tired of the war of looking at the destroyed towns and villages. We asked for gods help and we constructed the entire republic. He also gets billions from putin and lives like a king with toys, a private zoo, model helicopters. This is your private gym. And as we discovered an interview with kadyrov is exhausting. This is his boxing ring. Youre not expecting me to get in with you, are you . Yes, he was. And kadyrov wasnt finished yet. He likes to show off but is also feared in chechnya and is accused of ordering the deaths of his adversaries. People call you a dictator in chechnya. How do you respond to those critics . Translator everything the newspapers say is nonsense. Opponents say hes brutal, but islamic militants, including the groups that threatened sochi, have mostly fled chechnya, some for the neighboring republic of dagestan. When we visited there, we found a poor and drab place. Where putins forces are hunting down suspected extremists. No carrots here. Just a stick. A wathat athletes and fans will never see just over the mountains from the olympic park. Its too early, david, to celebrate a complete security success. Theres still a week to go till closing ceremonies. in english richard engle, thanks so much this morning. Im joined now by the man who headed up the Olympic Games the last time they were here in the u. S. , former governor of massachusetts and republican president ial nominee in 2012, mitt romney. Governor, welcome back to meet the press. Thanks, david. Good to see you. I want to ask you about the security threats. Last weekend on one of the sunday programs, the chair of the House Homeland SecurityCommittee Said about the games in russia he fears that something will detonate, something will blow up. Do you think the security concerns have been overblown . No, i think theyre very real when you have the kind of specific threats that were leveled at the games, you have to take them seriously. At the same time, i think russia has shown not only through the application of their Security Forces but also through their intelligence work that they have the capacity to keep the games reasonably safe. Theres no such thing as 100 guarantee, but i think at this stage people feel pretty comfortable that the games will be safe. Where youve been critical of the russian government is 50 billion that it spent to host these games in sochi, and you wrote a really pointed oped about in this week. Ill put a portion on the screen. If a country wants to show off, whats the harm . Waste is harm, particularly when need is as great as it is, harm occurs when a country spends more than it can afford to keep up appearances with big spenders. Harm occurs when a country is excluded from hosting an olympics because it cant afford the fabulous frills, and harm occurs when the worlds poor look in anguish at the excess. Time to limit that excess and why . Well, i really think so, because you dont need to spend 50 billion, as russia has or as china, did to put an olympic sport. Olympic sport can be demonstrated at 2 billion or 3 billion. And all that extra money could be used to do some very important things in terms of fighting poverty and fighting disease around the world. Thats what we really ought to be using those resources as opposed to wasting them in many cases to show off a country or i think more cynically to show off the politicians in the country. And to take money from some people so that politicians can be puffed up and shown around the world i think is something which is very distasteful at a time when theres so much poverty and so much need. Do you think putin views it as worth it . I assume hes among the politicians youre talking about being puffed up on the world stage. Oh, i think theres no question but that the politicians who take this money and spend 50 billion to host the world for tv appearances, i think they think its worth it or they wouldnt spend it. A lot of that money certainly could be going into corruption as well and paying off various folks. Its a very unsavory thing. I think the International Olympic committee has to take action to limit how much is spent on Olympic Games. In terms of cities like boston vying for future games, definitely worth it, you would say go for it, dont pass up the opportunity . Its a great experience to host an Olympic Games. Everybody that touches the olympics that ive ever seen has said it was one of the greatest experiences of their life. Not because of all the fun they had but because of all the service they were able to give to others. Its a Great Unifying thing. Boston would love it if the games came home. Let me talk to you about politics and, of course, the issue of gay rights around the world, particularly in russia, has been part of the backdrop of these games. You think about the issue of samesex marriage in america. Ten years ago almost to the month, it was massachusetts when you were governor that really set a samesex marriage rights into motion, and you wrote about it at the time rather pointedly where you said after that decision by the court, the definition of marriage is not a matter of semantics. It will have Lasting Impact on society. Ten years later as youve seen samesex marriage now in 17 states and the district of columbia, has it had a negative impact on society in it your judgment . Well, i think marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman. And i think the ideal setting for raising a child is in a setting where theres a father and a mother. Now, there are many other different settings that children are raised in and people have the right to live their life as they want to, but i think marriage should be defined in the way it has been defined for several thousand years, and if gay couples want to live together, thats fine, as well. Thats their right. Do you think its had a negative impact on society that you have so many states now recognizing it . Oh, i think its going to take a long, long time to determine whether having gay marriage will make it less likely for kids to be raised in settings where theres a mom and a dad. Thats not going to happen overnight. Its something which happens over generations in fact, and again, i think the ideal setting is where theres a mom and dad that can invest their time and resources in supporting the development of a child. As you look at the progression of this issue as a republican, do you think republicans have lost the fight politically over this . You know, i dont know that you have to worry about who wins and loses a particular fight. I think you stand for various principles. You communicate those to the American People, and they either support those or not. Sometimes if something is lost, you move on to the next issue. You wish youd have won that one but you move on. I think in this case, it continues to be an issue that people find important and something which is being considered in various states across the country. I do believe, by the way, that its best decided by the people rather than by the courts. I think when the courts step in and make a decision of this nature theyre removing from the people something which they have the right to decide themselves. 2016 politics is a topic that keeps coming up for you. Ill ask about you in a minute. But i want to ask about the democrats and the prospect of Hillary Clinton running. Senator rand paul started on meet the press and has said it elsewhere that basically the clintons should be judged on bill clinton, impeachment, his relationship with monica lewinsky. He calls him a sexual predator. Is the prospect of a Hillary Clinton candidacy, should that be judged on the record, personal and otherwise, of bill clinton, do you think . Well, i dont think bill clinton is as relevant as Hillary Clinton if Hillary Clinton decides to run for president. And in her case, i think people will look at her record as the secretary of state and say during that period of time did our relations with nations around the world elevate america and elevate our interests or were they receding . And i think her record is what will be judged upon, not the record of her husband. Its interesting that the Republican Party now on its website is really resurrecting the 90s, and part of that message is keep the clintons out of the white house again. Do you see this as a pair and not just Hillary Clinton . I think Hillary Clinton, if she becomes a nominee, will have plenty to discuss about her own record. I dont imagine that bill clinton is going to be a big part of it. That being said, the times when he was president were by and large positive Economic Times for the country. On the other hand, he embarrassed the nation. He breached his responsibility i think as an adult and as a leader in his relationship. And i think thats very unfortunate, but i dont think thats Hillary Clintons to explain. She has her own record, her own vision for where she would take the country. And i think thats something which we debated extensively during the 2016 campaign. And what about mitt romney . When the question was posed as the New York Times reported it, january 19th, romney asked if he would consider a third president ial run and the answer, oh, no, no, no, no i cant count all the noes. Maybe you should be more definitive. Is there something that might make you change your mind . Reagan ran three times, didnt he . You know, im not ronald reagan. I think thats been pointed out to me before. And im not running for president. Weve got some very good people who are considering the race, and im looking forward to supporting someone who i think will have the best shot of defeating whoever it is the democrats put up. I know youve said theres quite a stable of folks. But i want to go back to this documentary that wasade but about you and your candidacy allowing rare access in, and you addressed this issue of what would happen if you lost. And i wonder well take a look and ill ask you about your impact on the debate going forward. Watch this clip. I get beaten up, that goes with the territory. Have i looked to what happens to anybody who loses as the nominee of their party, loses the general election. They become a loser for life, all right. All right . Its over. Mike dukakis cant get a job mowing lawns. We just brutalize whoever loses. I know that. I know that. And so im going in with my eyes open. Do you see yourself as a loser for life, or rather do you think that you have a real impact on the future of the Republican Party . Well, maybe i was exaggerating somewhat in that clip, but i think by and large, people who lose a president ial race are they step aside. In my case, i had the blessing of having a big family and im actually spending time with my kids, and i enjoy that a great deal. But i do also hope to continue to have an impact on the country and our way forward. Im very concerned about america. For a lot of reasons. In i think on monday, its the fiveyear anniversary of the president signing a stimulus bill that was supposed to get unemployment below 5 . And here we are with millions of people have dropped out of the employment system. Were finding ourselves less competitive globally. Our deficits continue to be a real burden for the American People. I mean, these are things i care about. And just because i lost the president ial race doesnt mean im not going to keep fighting for the American People and for a future thats more prosperous than what weve seen over the last five years. Final question, governor. You saw usa hockey beat the russians yesterday. Thats not the end of the story. Do you think theyll win gold . Boy, i sure hope so and i think so. Theres such heart and passion with our athletes there in sochi. I know were not getting as many medals as i would have liked to have seen, but i have been very, very proud of watching our athletes, when shaun white, for instance, didnt get that medal, he showed a level of maturity and thoughtfulness and sportsmanship that i think was a model for people around the world. So, yeah, go usa. Im very excited to watch these hockey games. Well, said. Governor romney, thanks so much for your views. Always a pleasure to have you. Good to be with you. Thanks, david. Now i want to turn to the politics of weather. What a big story this week. And this morning in jakarta, indonesia, secretary of state john kerry gave the first in a series of speeches on Climate Change saying it is threatening the worlds way of life. Im going to discuss the debate over Climate Change policies in just a moment with science educator bill nye and the science guy and republican congresswoman from tennessee marsha blackburn. But first, is the growing cost of our recent weather disasters creating a new focus on the need for action on climate changing . This weeks storm left half a million georgians without power at its peak, buried cities in snow and ice, stranded flyers and practically shuttered the nations capital. Extreme cold has frozen Lake Superior to levels not seen in decade and led to a boom in tourism in ice caves off the water. In california, drought gripping 90 of the state has parched crops and dried up Food Supplies for livestock. Is it a natural cycle . Is it due to human interference or human conditions that we have created . That remains open to debate. But there is no doubt the climate is changing. President obama toured a fresno farm friday to it out federal support to address californias water crisis. In his state of the union speech, he was adamant. The debate is settled. Climate change is a fact. The extreme weather is not limited to the United States. Massive flooding has left large parts of england under water over the past two the months. The chief scientist of uks National Weather service said all the evidence suggests climate changing is to blame. Skeptics say the forecasts of doom and gloom are overblown. After you adjust for the fact that there are so many more People Living in so many more places, theres no change in weatherrelated damages. Bill nye and marsha blackburn, welcome to meet the press. Good to be with you. Thanks, david. Thank you. So here was the Guardian Newspaper after all the flooding in the uk, and heres the headline Climate Change is here now, it could lead to global conflict if the politicians squabble. In the Scientific Community, this is not a debate whether Climate Change is real. The consensus is that it is. The majority of those who believe in fact that it is caused by humans. There are certainly some in the Scientific Community who dont believe thats the case and who are skeptical about some of those conclusions. But nevertheless, there is still this level of consensus. My question to begin with both of you is, in this moment of this kind of extreme weather moment, is it creating new urgency to act . Bill nye, ill start with you. Well, i would say yeah, and what ive always said we need to do everything all at once. And this is an opportunity for the United States to innovate, to be the world leader in new technologies, that if you could invent a better battery, a better way to store electricity, you would change the world, and if you were to do that in a way that you could manufacture and export it, you would also do very well financially. Congresswoman, is there new urgency to act . Everybody this is not you dont need a ph. D. In Climate Science to understand whats going on, that things that we have overwhelming evidence that climate is changing, that you cannot tie any one event to that is not the same as doubt about the whole thing. But is the issue, congresswoman, the cure or the disease and whatsorse . Heres the atlantic magazine on some of the views within your party within the Republican Party. On Global Warming conservative policy positions often seem to be con duplicated or confused with rejection of the consensus that the plant has been warming due to human carbon emissions. The vast majority do not reject the science of Global Warming. The catch, conservates believe many of the policies put forward to address the problem will lead to unacceptable levels of economic hardship. The fix can be very expensive in the short term for longterm gain. The short term for longterm gain. What you have to do is look 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. Whether its building the worlds most advanced satellite, the space station, or the next leap in unmanned systems. At boeing, one thing never changes. Our passion to make it real. President obama says that syria is crumbling, but doeshk l the pot holes. Whether its filling the potholes or responding well responding well to disasters, look at the tabloids in new york after the decision to keep the schools open. Let them eat snow. The head of the schools saying its a beautiful day. Theres a price to be paid and big debate about safety and the right call 0 make when it comes to these storms. 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