Happened either. [ laughter ] House Speaker paul ryan said today that he sees President Trump less as a traditional president and more as a chairman. While trump sees ryan as more of an ottoman. [ light laughter ] White House PressSecretary Sean Spicer said yesterday that President Trump will be issuing his next executive order on immigration this week. Hell, yeah said Michaels Craft stores and anywhere else that sells poster board. [ cheers and applause ] its a boom time. Boom time for the poster board industry. President trump was interviewed on fox friends this morning. Heres basically how it went. Seth no, these questions are too hard [ laughter ] during his interview on fox friends, President Trump was unable to name a time when he felt he deserved criticism. Which is pretty surprising, thing in his life hes actually earned. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] hes happy. He doesnt care. There are 20 days until spring, and those hibernating bears are in for quite a surprise. [ laughter ] [ grumbling ] [ applause ] according to a new study, cats may have more potential than dogs to sniff out bombs. They just wont bother to tell you. [ laughter ] not my problem. A pennsylvania man was arrested over the weekend for biting his wife after she ate his potato chips. And im guessing its going to be a while before he gets lays again. [ laughter and applause ] a 100yearold dutch woman recently perad to arrest her to fulfill an item on her bucket list. Cool story for her, not so much for the victims of her double homicide. [ laughter ] a woman who received a ticket for eating an egg roll while driving is heading to trial to challenge the charge. Though the craziest part is how she got the ticket. [ laughter ] according to reports, for the first time in 146 years chicago has not had snow in the months of january and february. So either Climate Change is real or the cubs winning the world series really screwed up the universe. [ laughter and applause ] and finally, a taco truck stuck in a traffic jam in seattle yesterday opened up and served lunch to drivers stuck on the interstate. Because nothing gets the traffic moving like a taco. [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a great show for you tonight [ from fxs great new show, legion, our friend aubrey plaza is back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] were always so thrilled to have aubrey here. From the new abc mini series that chronicles the history of lgbt rights, when we rise. Whoopi goldberg and Dustin Lance Black are here. And he is the host of cnns fascinating new show, believer, reza aslan is here tonight. So [ cheers and applause ] very exciting to talk to all of our guests this evening. Before we get to that, here at late night, every night i deliver a monologue comprised of jokes written by a diverse team of writers. As a result, a lot of jokes come across my desk that, due to me being a straight white male, would be difficult for me to deliver. But we dont think that should stop you from enjoying them. So wed like to share them with you now in a segment called jokes seth cant tell. [ applause ] seth these are two of our writers, amber and jenny. Im black. And im gay and we are both women. Seth and im not. So heres how this works. Ill read the setups for these jokes and amber and jenny will read the punchlines. Here it goes. Footwear Company Birkenstock is coming out with a new line of beds. Said lesbians, i already get laid in birkenstocks. [ light laughter ] seth yeah. Yeah. Seth a recent essay in usa today argues that America Needs more blackowned banks. A black bank is just like a white bank, except it only has money in it on fridays. [ laughter ] seth a lesbian couple was recently asked to leave a mcdonalds after an employee told them they were being inappropriate. It turns out when you go to mcdonalds youre not allowed to eat tacos. Seth jenny [ laughter ] would you have preferred i said mcmuffins . [ light laughter ] seth weirdly, yeah. President trump is scheduled to meet soon with members of the congressional black caucus. So to the members of the congressional black caucus, i st [ light laughter ] seth a burger king in israel recently offered a socalled adults meal that came with two beers and a sex toy. Or as lesbians call it, a friday night. [ light laughter ] seth im learning so much. According to a recent study, the black rhinoceros is on the brink of extinction. Apparently, cops keep shooting them, too. [ audience ohs ] [ laughter ] seth woo researchers in malaysia recently released a group of endangered turtles back into the wild. A group of turtles is called a bale, while a group of lesbians is called the army. [ light laughter ] you know what a group of black people is called . Seth what . A riot. Seth oh. [ laughter ] wait, wait. Then whats a group of white people called . Congress. Seth oh, right, right, right, right. [ cheers and applause ] its my bad. Abc announced recently that for the first time the lead on the bachelorette will be africanamerican. Still no word on when theyll have their first black viewer. [ laughter ] seth so, amber, youre not excited about the black bachelorette . If i wanted to see a black woman who can choose between any white man she wants, id just look in the mirror. [ audience oohs ] [ cheers and applause ] [ light laughter ] seth thats definitely one i couldnt tell. [ laughter ] i would like to do this after my punchlines, though. You could probably get a couple white guys. [ laughter ] seth thats a question for jenny i think for sure. Seth okay, thank you. D. C. Comics announced recently they are bringing back their lesbian superhero, batwoman. Shes just like batman, except her parents arent dead, just disappointed. [ audience ohs ] seth adele recently won the grammy for album of the year over beyonce. Amber, whats the joke . That is the joke. [ audience ohs ] [ laughter and applause ] seth i need you to know, im dancing to adele. [ laughter ] hey, seth, why dont you tell one . Seth no, i couldnt oh come on, bud seth i feel like ill get in trouble if i do. No, you can do it. Come on do it seth all right, all right, i trust you guys. I trust you both. You should. Seth youre my friends and i trust you. You wouldnt lead me astray, because i trust you. I trust you both so much. Yeah, you should. Seth a man recently became the champion of philadelphias wing bowl after eating 409 chicken wings in one sitting. Said black people, amateur how dare you seth you told me it would be okay seth, how could you . Seth black women and lesbians are liars [ light laughter ] seth well be right back with aubrey plaza, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] remember 2007 . Smartphones . 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Seth thank you so much for being here thanks for having me, man. Seth you know our first guest tonight from her work on the hit comedy parks and recreation, and films such as dirty grandpa and mike and dave need wedding dates. She stars in the fx series, legion, which airs wednesday nights. Lets take a look. Kid, hey kid [ whistle ] its sweet, really. They think they can save you. What is it . The Speech Center of his brain is active, but hes not talking. You cant be here. What are you doing, kid . Stop. Do you think youre safe here . With these clowns . You . No, no, im not sick. I have abilities. Hmm. Theyre showing me my past. I have powers. Oh. Oh no, thats good. Im happy for you. Seth please welcome back to the show, one of our favorites, our friend, aubrey plaza, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] seth welcome back, friend. Why, thank you. Seth its so wonderful to always have you here. I know, im just always here. Seth youre always here. [ light laughter ] congrats on this show. Thanks. Steve this show is very unique. This is like, half a superhero show, half a scifi show. Would you say thats accurate . Yeah, its kind of psychedelic, psychological. Seth it is psychostyle. Seth its a lot of psycho stuff in it. Superhero show. Seth its sort of from the xmen universe. It is. Seth dan stevens plays professor xaviers son. Seth and you play lenny. And lenny is a pretty interesting cat. How would you describe lenny . Lenny lenny busker is the name. And its really hard to describe without giving away the entire plot of the show. Seth thats true. Which im not allowed to do. But um seth we can say shes a very mysterious seth can we say what happens to your character . Because youre still on the show. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Seth i mean, thats allowed, right . Yes. Seth yeah. Because you died. Thats right. Seth yeah. [ laughter ] yeah. Seth but but just watch and see. [ laughter ] i dont know how to talk about it. Its so hard to talk about it. Seth youre still on the show. Im on the show, and my character does die in the First Episode. But then i keep coming back, and somethings not quite right. And youre like, what is going on with this crazy character . Seth i would say the first thing thats not right is when a dead person keeps coming back. Thats usually a red flag. Well, not to lenny. [ laughter ] and um seth so, lenny is just a normal thing. Shes a seth and len was corn flakes the middle name in the script . Yeah, corn flakes was the middle name in the pilot script, but that hasnt really paid off and i dont think it ever will. Seth gotcha, but you used it as inspiration. Except for in my own mind. Seth its so you, to prepare for the character of lenny corn flakes what was the last name . Busker. Seth lenny corn flakes busker. Its a great name. Yeah, its like a stripper name. Seth what stripper name . [ laughter ] i dont know. Seth i would not but seth if i was in a strip club and they said, up next, lenny corn flakes busker. Id be like, im going to go get a drink. [ laughter ] i would be like pulling corn flakes out of my vagina woo [ laughter ] take a couple of these. Seth you guys like fiber . Yeah. [ laughter ] i live on the street. Seth but you used your corn flakes as inspiration. Yeah, i use my corn flakes [ laughter ] in a lot of ways. Seth yeah. I yeah. I had a lot of inspirations for david bowie was one of them. Seth that makes sense from what ive seen. The character was originally written as a middleaged man. Seth uhhuh. In the pilot script and then when i came on board, it changed, because seth yeah. And then yeah. So but the lines didnt change. Seth how . So the gender changed, but not dialogue. So i kind of seth thats really cool. How did i mean, what an interesting casting process, that they would go so far afield of how it was written. Could they just thats noah hawley. Seth yeah. Hes a really interesting guy and he makes really cool choices, i think. Seth noah hawley created the show. He also created fargo. Yes. Seth the great fx series. Hes a great author. And and an identical twin. Seth does he really have an identical twin . I think so. [ laughter ] seth okay. I dont know. Maybe i shouldnt have said that. Seth yeah. Its a secret. Seth oh, got it. Now its not. Seth so not only does your show have spoilers his twin is evil. No, i think hes identical i dont know if hes identical or fraternal, actually. So dont quote me on that. Im going to do a long interview about noah hawleys twin after this. Well the thing about his yeah i dont know anything about it. [ light laughter ] at all. Seth but this the First Episode. I watched the First Episode twice of this show, because it is its very complicated and that seems negative. Yes. Seth but its i would say its intricate. No, i think, you know, the show its great that its on the air. It will be, i think even more for fun for people that have missed it and that will end up bingewatching it. Because its such a its such a complicated show, it has many layers and its trippy, man. Seth yeah. So youve got to just you know. Seth were you confused when you read the script the first time, was it hard to follow . Yes. I read it i had to read it so many times. Even when i was shooting it, i read it over and over again, because i was like, i am not smart enough to be in this show. [ light laughter ] everyone else is smart, except for me. So i had to really read it and really go, yeah, i get whats happening. Seth dan stevens, who is your costar, great actor from downton abbey. We knew him from that. Yeah. Have because everybody must be confused by the script. But you try to try to you tried to tell him that you know more than he does. Well, yes, i did. Because my character is appearing to him in the show. And so and his character, the premise is that hes schizophrenic, and hes in a mental hospital, and he thinks hes crazy, but really he has super powers. So he never knows whats real or not. So when we werent shooting, and id always be like, dan, you know that, you know that this character is going to end up doing this to you. And he would be like, are you serious . No one told me that. And id be like, oh, yes. And i wouldnt know anything. And i would just constantly mess with him. Like all day long. [ light laughter ] and for me, i felt like it was my job to do that. Seth oh, yeah. Thats where [ laughter ] so just, psychologically kind of seth thats what corn flakes does. Yeah. [ laughter ] typical corn flakes. Spreading her corn flakes all over the place. Seth if you just making a real mess. Seth if you iu power, what would your super power be . Um, i dont know. I said once that i would want it to be something where you put something in your mouth and its so spicy that your head explodes. Seth uhhuh. I and i would call that, muy caliente. [ light laughter ] and so it would be kind of like a pleasure and pain scenario. Seth so your you would im sorry, you would make other people [ laughter ] thats not a good answer. I dont know why i said that. Seth well how can i do it again . Seth yeah. [ laughter ] now i dont seth but i want to talk about muy caliente. Wait, i dont want to talk about her anymore. She died. [ laughter ] seth oh, she died too . Yeah. Seth is she died, dead dead . Or does she come back too . She she dead. Seth she dead . [ light laughter ] when you died on the show, you had to wear a harness, right . Yep. Seth and had you ever done that before . No, im now in the marvel harness club. Seth oh, thats a thing . Which i well, in my mind. I created it. Seth okay, got it. But i only had to do it one time. But now i know what it feels like. And ke seth oh, yeah. And [ laughter ] seth who wouldnt like a very tight diaper . I actually would rather wear a diaper at all times. [ laughter ] seth here comes lenny corn flakes wearing a diaper. [ light laughter ] shes got a diaper full of milk ooh, yeah. Look at those soggy corn flakes dripping down her thighs. Man, im turned on by that. Seth yeah. I want to congratulate you on something else. You produced two films that were in sundance . Thats right. Seth thats really amazing, well done. Thanks. Seth thats so exciting. Yeah. Seth were you in both . I was. Thank you. [ laughter ] mom. [ cheers and applause ] hey, you didnt have to seth you one of the films, you play a nun, correct . Yes. Both of the films, i believe, will come out this summer. One is called the little hours where i play a nun and one is called Ingrid Goes West. Seth gotcha. And for the nun, is it true, i by actually you were actually reading the bible. Yes, i was. Theres Prayer Services in the film, so i was for some reason put in charge of writing those services and coming up with all of the responsorial psalms. So just i went back to my catholic roots and stole a bible from my hotel room. [ light laughter ] and just just started from page 1, and i was like, this is interesting stuff. Seth yeah. I mean seth how do you think the church feels about stealing bibles from hotel rooms . Where do they land on that . I think that they would love it. Seth yeah. I mean, dont they want everyone to read it . Seth yeah. In my mind, stealing a bible is like what they secretly want you to do. Seth yeah. Because theyre like, yeah, now youre going to read it and do everything it says. And im like, no i wont. But seth yeah. It must be such a bummer when you get to thou shalt not steal and youre like, oh, [ bleep ]. Yeah, then i just immediately convert to judaism. [ light laughter ] yeah. Like, being a producer, which is so different. Did you ever run into problems with either of the films being a producer . Yeah. I mean yeah, it was really interesting kind of being with both projects from the very beginning to the very end. And kind of seeing what goes on, you know, not as an actor. And its really interesting also when youre an actor and youre producing, because its like a conflicting thing. Where sometimes, you know, as an actor youre put in weird situations where youre like, i dont know if this is safe. Or, i dont know if this is okay. But as a producer, youre like, its safe. Do it. Do it. You gotta get the shot. So i was like constantly kind of in my mind going like, i dont know if i should be doing this. You should be doing this. Weve got to make the picture. And im like, but its my health. And then youre like just screwed either way. Seth so, youre basically dans character on legion. Yeah, pretty much. Seth youre a schizophrenic. Yes. I mean thats how i feel most of the time. Seth oh, thats good. Especially when im working. But, yeah, it was really interesting. We had a lot of like crazy things. Like, on Ingrid Goes West we had one scene where i was house and our locations guy actually got a condemned house. So when we showed up in the morning to shoot, we found that squatters had been in there and they had just gone to the bathroom all over the floor. Seth oh, thats not great. Which was where i was supposed to be all day. So that was like one of those of times where i was like, i dont want to sit in the floor in the thing. And i was like, but youre going to. [ laughter ] seth i cant wait to see both of them. Congrats on legion. Thanks. Seth always great to have you back on here. Thank you. [ cheers and applause ] seth aubrey plaza, everybody legion airs wednesday nights on fx. Well be right back with Whoopi Goldberg and Dustin Lance Black. [ cheers and applause ] hey ramirez un poquito mas rapido, no . 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[ cheers and applause ] seth welcome back, everybody our next guests are both Academy Award winners. You know her from her work in the color purple, ghost, sister act, and as cohost of the view. Hes best known for writing the screenplay of harvey milks, milk. Their miniseries, when we rise, which chronicles the history lets take a look. The silence of city hall is about politics. Its about the community. Your community. Not panicking. And, yeah, a little bit is to try to stem the tide of more antigay backlash. Why would we panic . Listen, man, i work for the department of health. And nobody wants to get this more right than i do. You represent our community in city hall. Im not going to say anything until i know that we have a treatment and a cure. But we dont know how long thats going to take. Seth please welcome to the show Whoopi Goldberg and Dustin Lance Black, everybody [ cheers and applause ] seth thank you both for being here. What are you what have you got . Well, this is this is from the green room. Seth yeah, we put taffy in the green room. Its really good and im afraid i cant put it down so seth oh, you just brought it out. I just brought it out with me. Seth thats great. Yeah, man seth you know, you could nobody would have taken it. You could have just left it in the room. Well, but you dont know that. Seth yeah. [ laughter ] you know. You know. Seth yeah, thats true. You know. Seth so first of all, i want to say this. You guys as i mentioned, you two are both oscar winners. Did you watch the oscars . Its true, yeah. I did not. Seth you did not watch them . No. I did. Seth you did. Yeah. Seth what did you think . I mean, you know, the ending was interesting. Seth sure but ive got to say moonlight has anyone seen moonlight in here . [ cheers and applause ] seth its fantastic. Oh, my, it is a masterpiece. Yeah. And ive got to say, moonlight winning that award sends such a message of hope to so many communities that have been underrepresented in films for so long. [ cheers and applause ] broke down walls. Seth what were you doing . Just too busy to watch t seth oh, you were sick . Yeah. Seth im sorry. Are you feeling better . Actually, yeah. Seth okay, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seth because i dont want to find out that youre toughing it through and bring your germs in here. [ laughter ] too late. Seth but this is this project sort of came together almost because you guys met in 2009 when you won your oscar for milk. Thats true. Seth thats the first time you met. Well that yes. Thats yeah. Seth how did it go down . Well, when you win the oscar, you go from the stage into a pressroom. But in between, that year, they had this room with all of the previous oscar winners. And im already stunned. I couldnt breathe. I walk in, and there is Whoopi Goldberg. Like, my moms favorite actress in the world. [ light laughter ] and she looks at me and she grabs me, puts her arms around me and says, when is the valencia street movie, baby . Because thats where the Womens Movement was in San Francisco. Yeah. You had performed up there. Yeah, i lived up in San Francisco in the bay area for a long time. And watched a lot of this sort of come together. And watched this fight that the Gay Community began. You know, and the splintering and the coming together. And then aids, you know everybody having to figure out why people were dying when no one would no one would talk nobody would say, this is whats happening. And the woman that i play is a woman who was really trying to, you know, do her best to try to not freak everybody out. But it was just its its such a great piece. And i loved milk so much. You know, i loved the film. And i so i just said, you know, when are you going to do really, the rest of the story. Seth im so glad you said that. But also, i cant believe he just won an oscar and you wouldnt even let him get to the pressroom see seth before you were saying, i have your next project and you need to get started. But thats my style. I just said that to him this morning. Thats why we like each other. Weve got to get going. This things not done. Yeah. You know, i knew milk wasnt the end of the story. No. I knew there was more. And it was the best reminder saying, hey, you got that trophy, but thats not the end of your road. Yeah. And thats what she said to i mean, its, you know, its one of those things where you hope that people will tell the stories that are out there. But sometimes they, you know, sometimes they dont there goes my earring. Seth oh, my goodness. [ light laughter ] you know what that means . Seth what does that mean . I just lost four ounces. [ laughter ] i just farted into your seat. [ laughter ] seth heres the bad news. Im pretty sure each piece of taffy is eight ounces. Oh, oh. Well, here comes the rest. [ laughter ] seth so you decided to tell the story, sort of through four different activists that were key to the lgbt community. Are they did you know of them before you started doing your research and work on milk or were they people who came through that . I knew of one. One is featured in milk. I just didnt cleve jones, who was harvey milks political aide i was using him more as somebody to help me find other real people. Right. Like, i traveled the country, i made calls around the world for about a year looking for real people. And originally, i heard the name roma guy. Everywhere i went in the country people were talking about this activist who had been fighting for womens equality. Everybody knew her name. I had never met her. I called cleve and i said would you introduce me to this roma guy, and he did. She was the first to sign on and say yes. But i realized in that research how rare it is that someone is a lifetime activist. Yeah. Seth yeah. Like cleve jones had been. That someone who fights from their teenage years all the way until now. Which is what all these characters do. And that they never give up that fight. Its incredibly difficulty work. My mom called cleve jones the gay forrest gump. Seth uhhuh. As a film maker i call him the gay zellig . Because he was literaly at every everything, yeah. Single critical moment in the movement. And he always tried his best to do the right thing. And we could use a lot more cleve joneses and roma guys and ken joneses in this world right now. Well, i think its happening. I think people are standing up, you know. [ applause ] cause, really, you know whoever you are, wherever your mind is, everybodys rights are and if they can take those guys rights away that means they can come take your rights away. So we all have to sort of band together to make sure that everybody has civil rights, because it if one doesnt have them, nobodys got them. Seth sure. Thats just the way it is. [ cheers and applause ] seth its a a show like this i feel like when you hear the premise of the show and what its about its a four night miniseries and you think, oh, this sounds like an hbo show or this sounds like a netflix show. It was very important to you to have it on abc. Yeah. Seth explain that for us, lance. I mean i was shocked when i heard abc was interested in a lgbt history story. Because i grew up in texas in a southern, mormon, conservative, military home, right . As a gay kid, that was a lot. Seth yeah. And uh [ light laughter ] seth thats the hat trick right there, yeah. [ laughter ] and i was allowed to watch abc. I was allowed to watch network tv, because it told family stories. And i thought, boy, this is such a great opportunity to introduce my lgbt family to my family in the south. And to say, in these divided times, we got a whole lot more in common than you might think. And i worked really hard to use that common language. I learned in the south, you come to dinner and talk about politics and policy and science. Mmmmm. Youre going outside. But if you tell an emotional story, you tell a family story, you tell a story about love, you might get somewhere. You might change a heart. You change a heart, you can change a mind. You do that, you might change the world. I wish we could start figuring out how to use some language we got in common more in this world than all this divided language. [ cheers and applause ] seth its great that youre setting out to do that. And you know, i think one of the things postelection we keep coming back to is are we just telling the things we believe to other people who believe them . And i think its so lovely that youre trying to do it in a forum on a channel that is in everyones home and hopefully, yeah, hopefully you can change some hearts and some minds. I want to ask real quick, you were just in london doing standup, whoopi. Yes, i was. Seth thats exciting. How does london feel about what we have done over here . They couldnt really say very much because of brexit. Seth sure, right, yeah. It seems that everybody is having one of those movements. But you know what, we have been through this before. This is not the strangest thing we have seen. Its the one weve gotten most recently. Seth sure. And you know what, it really comes down to this. Do you care about the constitution . If you care about the constitution, Pay Attention if you dont care about the constitution, then whatever you get youll be happy with. Its that simple. You know . So im hoping that, you know, more and more folks whether you agree or disagree, as long as its done within the law, you know, i will bitch about stuff that i dont like seth yeah. But i will come after you if you mess with the constitution. Seth all right. Well, that sounds like a plan. [ cheers and applause ] congratulations on the show, guys. Thank you so much for being here. Always a pleasure. 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And right now, pair up those two lines with two free Samsung Galaxy s7 when you switch. Yup free. So switch and save hundreds when you go all unlimited with tmobile. Y29phy y16fy 48 hours of protection. I dont have to reapply this. Not once its really soft and almost velvety. As you put it on. Its like reaaally soft. Try dove advance care. For softer, smoother underarms. [ cheers and applause ] seth welcome back, everybody. Our next guest is a religious scholar and bestselling author. His new show, believer, premiers march 5th on cnn. Please welcome to the show, reza aslan. [ cheers and applause ] seth how are you . Im g you here. Im such a huge fan of yours. Seth thank you. Ive been a fan of yours for a very long time as well. And this show is great. You go and you talk to people about their religions all over the world. Well, i dont talk to them, i actually join them. Seth you join then. I immerse myself into their communities. Do what they do. Seth im glad i wanted to let you explain this clip from the First Episode. This is you go to india. Yes. Seth and so is the aghori, they are a theyre a 500yearold sect of hinduism. They reject concepts of purity and pollution. And so the way that they prove that is by taking part in these kinds of well, theatrical displays of self pollution. Seth gotcha. And so they covered you is it in this clip youre covered in human ashes . Im covered in the ashes of the dead. Seth okay. Yes, thats right. Seth and this this interaction did not go great. [ laughter ] you were talking to someone and he did not seem to like the questions. Not a fan of my questions. S impressed at how you keep your cool. Why why do [ speaking in Foreign Language ] i feel this may have been a mistake. Maybe we just, like, somebody distracts him and then i just leave. [ light laughter ] [ applause ] seth so, did they all go like that or were there some where you stayed. There were easier interviews than that one. Seth yeah, there were easier interviews. You know whats funny is that the director there, ben selkow, afterwards said, i thought you were kidding and i was like, no. And i realized, we dont have a safe word on the show. Seth right. [ light laughter ] we have to come up with a word that i can use that says, no, really, get me out of here. Seth yeah. But, also do research and make sure that the safe word in that religion doesnt mean something completely different. Vgo what the belief is, is kind of remarkable. You know, hinduism in many ways is obsessed with issues of purity and pollution. And, of course, a great part of the caste system in a lot of Indian Society is predicated on, you know, how polluted you are as an individual. And with the aghori do by rejecting that notion, is that their argument that is there is no caste system. Like, nothing should separate us. And so, yes, some of them take part in these displays where they do things, like, for instance, eat dead people. Seth uhhuh. And others express their faith by opening orphanages or taking care of leprosy patients. So there is something really beautiful about the belief system itself. Seth and in general is it safe to say that what youre finding of these very disparate religions is how much is similar at the core of all them . I mean, yeah, i dont want to sound, like, too fluffy or anything. But, i mean, if you spend enough time studying the religions of the world, if you immerse yourself in these different faith communities, you cant help but recognize how beyond you know, the external stuff, the myths and the metaphors that ultimately the faith that is being expressed is similar. Its familiar. That that really there is so much more that connects individuals across religions than actually divides them. Seth thats a very Important Message right now, which is why im very glad youre doing the show. One thing thats interesting to me is obviously youre seeing people do strange things, like rubbing the ashes of the dead on their face. But you must look so strange to them when you show up and youve got a guy with a boom mic and another guy with a camera. Right. Seth how have people responded to you sort of showing up with your film crews . Look, thats a very good question. Because a lot of these communities are insular. Some of them are, you know, kind of secretive. Theyre not all that friendly to outsiders in general, let alone, you , but i find that when you when you convince someone that their beliefs matter, that youre not there to judge them, that youre not there to make some kind of, you know, value judgment or to mock them, then they open up completely. And sometimes it was easier than others. We do an episode on the ultraorthodox jews in israel. And, you know, these are people they dont even like other jews. Seth right. [ light laughter ] and here i am, like, you know, a muslim guy from iran being like, hey, can i hang out . [ laughter ] so it was hard, it was difficult. But i think the important thing is that when people feel as though you value their beliefs, theyre open to sharing those beliefs with you. And the access that we got to a lot of these communities was truly remarkable. Seth i think, you know and you saying they have to trust you, because i believe religions religious people and i think to some degree they have a point to worry that theyre going to be mocked. Yeah. Seth and i think you do a being open and listening to everything they to say. Of course, not just mockery, but religions are under siege in a lot different ways right now. Yeah. Seth you moved from iran in the 80s yeah. Seth to the United States. That was another time of real antimuslim sentiment. Yeah. Seth do you see parallels right now . No, everything is great now. Seth okay, good. [ laughter ] im so glad. Yeah. Seth i was so worried you were going to be worrisome. Yeah, no, its all solved. Seth okay, good. No, it is funny. I came here during the iran hostage crisis. So this was a time in which you know, i was just a 7yearold kid, but there was an enormous amount of antimuslim and antimiddle eastern sentiment. I was called, you know, terrorist and rag head and constantly told to go back home. Which i thought they meant, like, go back to your apartment. And i was like, okay. [ light laughter ] seth i dont love school. Im out. [ laughter ] and but i will say this that although, you know, you hear a lot of those things again today. And its true that, you know, antimuslim sentiment, antisemitic sentiment is at unprecedented levels. I thth when i as a kid, even as a 7yearold, i understood that i had the constitution on my side. I understood that no matter what kind of bigotry i was confronted with, that i could rely on, you know, the values and the ideals of the country. Its why we came here. We couldve we fled iran. We could have gone to any country. We picked america, because we knew we would be protected here. And i have to say that what i think worries me is that those underlying values are what is under siege right now. Like, you cant say with the confidence that i had as a kid that dont worry, the constitution will protect you. I just i cant say that with confidence any more. Seth its interesting. You saying that as a 7yearold you understood and appreciated the constitution. I there is a thing that people forget about immigrants. Immigrants have, at a much younger age, an appreciation for these things. When i was 7 years old, i wasnt saying thank god for the constitution. Yeah, right. Seth i was, you know, born here and just took it for granted. Perspective. I actually it took me a long time to become a citizen. I became a citizen at the age of 23. And that was a really great experience, because i was an adult. And so i understood what was happening. I understood the oath that i was making, the vow that i was making to the United States to protect it from its enemies, foreign or at home. And i also understood the promise that was being made to me. That as long as i accepted these values, these principles, as my own, that i am as american as george washington. I think thats whats beautiful about the american identity. But i also think that in certain times of stress like were facing right now, it becomes hard to have, you know, unanimity about what those values actually mean. And unfortunately, so often the easiest way to define yourself is in opposition to another. I think a lot of people right now are having a hard time saying what it means to be american. But its pretty easy to say what it doesnt mean, right . Not being a mexican. Not being jewish. Not being muslim. Not being trans. And thats a destructive way of thinking. Its not what this country is predicated upon. We are a country that finds its unity in its diversity. And we need to be proud of that. We need to shout it from the rooftops. Seth well, i couldnt agree with you more. [ cheers and applause ] thank you for what you do. And i really think its a perfect time for your show. It would be nice for all of us to have a little bit more respect for what everybody feels and believes. Such a pleasure having you here. Thank you, seth. Seth give it up for reza aslan, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] believer premiers march 5th on cnn. Well be right back. [ cheers and applause ] the world is full of surprising moments. Theyre everywhere. And as a marriot rewards member, i can embrace them all. The new marriott portfolio of hotels now has 30 brands in over 110 countries. So no matter where you go, you are here. Join or link accounts at members. Marriott. Com. 48 hours of protection. I dont have to reapply this. Not once its really soft and almost velvety. As you put it on. Its like reaaally soft. Try dove advance care. For softer, smoother underarms. 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[ cheers and applause ] seth my thanks to everybody, to aubrey plaza, Whoopi Goldberg, justin lance black reza aslan, vinnie colauita, and of course, the 8g band stay tuned for carson daly. Well see you tomorrow. [ cheers and applause ] carson good evening. Youre watching last call from skylark. Im carson daly. Thank you for being here. Got a good one tonight