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We have instant scale. The oft is ing reb and reinterpret our business. This cloud helps transform business. This is th mit cld. Went to ancestry, i put in the names of my grandparents first. It gave me a leaf almost right away. Thin daywerom g st n to row, lategeashii didnt know that usingcestld basy. Madeins, knoere ar of youposeto d be he but madult ies e payour Bill Whitaker the notorious narco known as el chapo has achieved one of his greatest aspirations. He is the most famous drug lord of all time. This is our fourth 60 minutes story about el chapowhose real name is joaquin guzman. Our first story came when he was captured after 13 years on the run. We told you then that el chapo spanish for shortywas on forbes list of billionaires and had earned an outsized reputation for his worldwide smuggling empire, his ruthless brutality and most of all, for his daring getaways like the one we told you about last year when he vanished from a maximum security mexican prison through one of his trademark then there was our interview with actor sean penn, who met guzman at a hideaway last fall. After el chapos stunning prison break, many thought hed never get caught again. But he was. How . Youre about to see. Where in the pantheon of drug traffickers, drug lords, does el chapo fall . Peter vincent el chapo resides at the very top of that hierarchy. Whitaker Peter Vincent was a senior official and Legal Adviser of both the Justice Department and Homeland Security during the International Manhunt for guzman. He says after the daring escape last summer, el chapo became almost delusional. What precipitated his downfall . Vincent he became drunk on his own wine. He started to believe the hype that he was special, that he was something truly magical. And he became so incredibly arrogant that he thought he was untouchable. Whitaker jim dinkins agrees. As chief of Homeland Security investigations, he was part of the u. S. Mexico Task Force that nabbed el chapo in 2014. Jim dinkins he knew how he was captured last time. And so he had the upper hand, right. He had all the cards in his hand to go off into the sunset and to learn from his mistake. But he just couldnt help himself, and he remained in the public eye. Whitaker after his first escape from prison in 2001, guzman virtually disappeared from sight for 13 years. But not this time. Dinkins here he gets out of prison, and hes on the road being spotted at this place having, you know, drinks, and this place, you know with his family members. Whitaker he invited sean penn, and the actress kate del dinkins yeah. Whitaker did mexican Law Enforcement know that these two actors were going in to see el chapo . Dinkins oh, absolutely. They knew that sh where sean was going to go, when he was going to land. They knew right away. Whitaker how did they know . Because they were listening in on the cartels communications, and watching. Mexican and u. S. Law enforcement reformed the task force that caught el chapo the last time. They were tracking not just inner circle, including his cook. And everyone his lieutenants contacted, including sean penn. Did he become sloppy . Dinkins definitely. There was more sightings of him in the last six months than there was in the last ten years of before he was captured in 2014. Whitaker after he escaped the last time, you told us that you were not confident that he would ever be captured again. Dinkins yeah. Whitaker that el chapo had become a smarter criminal. Did you overestimate his dinkins i truly did. Here he had over a year in prison, i presumed he was using that same amount of time to think about how he was going to remain a fugitive for the rest of his life. Whitaker mexican officials told us that only twenty days after his escape, the marines picked up on guzmans trail. Vincent they created an even smaller team of Mexican Marines, a search bloc, and they focused on the prize at hand. That was capturing El Chapo Guzman alive, if they absolutely could. Their first opportunity came in early october, just days after sean penns visit. The marines told us they waited because they didnt want the american actor caught in the cross fire. A team of marines approached one of el chapos mountain top ranches by jungle road, while another group of commandos flew in by helicopter. So what went wrong on that october mission . Vincent as i understand it, despite all of El Chapo Guzmans powerful man, he was running with a child in his arms. Whitaker a human shield. A baby as a shield . Vincent thats the only way that one can rationally see it. Whitaker so once again, el chapo got away. In early december, intelligence led the marines to this house in the sleepy coastal town of los mochis in northern sinaloa. Wiretap intercepts talked about a visit planned by grandma and aunt code names for el chapo and his lieutenantknown as cholo ivan. The marines watched the house for a month as painters and construction crews came and went. Then on the morning of thursday, january seventh, grandma finally showed up. An Assault Force quickly moved into position nearby. That evening, someone in the house called out for a large order of tacos and this armored truck left to go pick up the food. Vincent for an incredibly savvy, clever, almost a criminal genius that El Chapo Guzman was, he ultimately was done in by very simple tastes. Whitaker what do you mean . Vincent tacos, tequila, and chicas. Whitaker at 4 40 a. M. In the predawn hours of friday, january eighth, the marines began battering down the gate of chapos safe house. Weve concealed the identities of the commando leaders for their safety. Bravo translated so when we first knock on the door of this house, the shooting started. Whitaker a fierce gun battle erupted. The first marine through the door was shot in the arm. I watched the videotape. Its very intense. Alpha translated chapos people inside the house were grenades. So it was like a war zone. Whitaker the marines moved methodically through the house. Chapos henchmen retreated up the stairs. Just inside the door, one gunman lay dead. Down the hall, four more taken prisoner and the commandos quickly check a walkin closet covered with fulllength mirrors. Up the stairs, the marines find two women, one of them the cook, cowering on the bathroom floor. Outside the house, more commandos fought it out with gunmen who fled across the roof tops. When it was over, there were five Cartel Members dead and six in custody. But once again, chapo with cholo ivanhad vanished. A couple of days later, the marines took us to the safehouse in los mochis in an armed here, just inside the gate, a pool of blood where the marine was shot. Sangre. Blood. And inside the door, more bloodstains, the walls pock marked with bullet holes and the scars of exploding shrapnel. And remember that walk in closet . The mirrors masked a hidden door. Behind the secret door, the entrance to one of el chapos trademark tunnels. Its connected to a network of storm drains and sewers. It was 45 minutes before they found chapos escape route and that morning the marines gave chase. Alpha translated we intensified the search inside the tunnels, opening the manhole covers, and inserting people in in those sewers. Whitaker then it started raining, hard. Bravo translated after 20 minutes of rain, we thought the chapo may may drown in the bleep in the sewers because of the high level of the water. Whitaker so he popped up out middle of a busy street. Bravo translated that was his only option. Whitaker this is where he came out. He popped up the manhole cover. Its about a half mile from the house, straight down that road there. Look carefully at this Security Camera footage from the gas station across the street. At 8 55 am four hours after the first shots were exchanged right there, you can see chapo and cholo ivan climbing out of the sewer. And then in this cell phone video, you can see them carjack a white v. W. Jetta and speed away. The fugitives got only three blocks before the jetta broke down. So they jacked a second car, a red ford focus, but only a couple of miles out of town that car broke down. Within minutes, the federal Emergency Center got two reports of hijacked vehicles. On the highway out of town, the on the bed of a towtruck. But no sign of chapo or his lieutenant. They had been picked up by the federal police and taken to a nearby motel. What were they doing in the backseat of the police car . Alpha translated they werent talking. They were relaxed. But they looked confused. Whitaker no one knows why the federal police took chapo to the motel instead of to jail, but Peter Vincent has a theory. Vincent el chapo undoubtedly said, one, you let me go now and i will make you wealthier beyond your wild imaginations. If you should choose to decline my most generous offer, i am not only going to kill you but i am going to rape and kill your wife and your daughters and im going to torture your sons. Whitaker he has behaved like that in the past . Vincent he has behaved like that virtually his entire criminal career. Whitaker bribes and threats. Bribes and bullets. And luckily the Mexican Marines showed up, realized what was going on and took control of the situation. Whitaker chapo was flown to mexico city for booking. He was paraded before reporters and returned to altiplano, the same prison from which he escaped last july. Vincent this time, he is rotated from cell to cell to cell. Guards are circulated every 15 minutes, through whatever cell he happens to be occupying on that particular day. Whitaker the u. S. Justice department wants guzman extradited, brought here to face charges for his crimes. Seven separate jurisdictions, including new york, chicago and san diego, all want to put el chapo on trial. Juan Pedro Badillo is a lawyer who only has one client el chapo. Lengthy process. How long do you think the whole extradition Legal Proceedings will go on . Juan Pedro Badillo translated ten, 15, 20 years perhaps. Or it could be one or two years. Vincent El Chapo Guzman knows that, if he is ultimately extradited to the United States its essentially game over for him. Whitaker soon after chapos arrest, the u. S. Mexico task force captured another two dozen sinaloa Cartel Members. Vincent it sends an incredibly powerful message to current kingpins, to future narcotraffickers that you may run, you may hide but ultimately this Multinational Force will track you down from the highest mountains or the deepest, darkest jungles, or through the stinking sewers of towns and and bring you to justice. Oo a r f op atwire m bulealo iys tor mught foe ngs. E biston and just like im therher,fic is thto hotecly an e all mom pacifi. Hefamifor 45 yrschielongfinaiasecurity withong mente. O a ncial sor to gur fwith cfidenc alle bees tr eese. Xeros hos us elonic Health Records tope ch ent an workr. Xer s i cod rare s d mochit. Less iting anr. N ntki. Nott yn rrugged,se,seene a dn we n stg d reisin ve sn r ugrewaoa, lo d wit m sedic ts stys. 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After our story aired last march, the Consumer Product Safety Commission working with the centers for Disease Control launched a study of that this month, the government published its findings. They showed the flooring gave off enough formaldehyde to irritate the eyes, nose and throat and could trigger breathing problems. It also increased cancer risks by a small amount. After the report was published, 60 minutes was alerted to the possibility that government scientists made a major mathematical mistake in their report. We sent the report to scientists at several universities and discovered the government forgot to convert feet to meters in some calculations. That error means all the predicted formaldehyde levels from Lumber Liquidators flooring are 3. 3 times higher than government scientists calculated, which can amount to more than 18 times higher levels of formaldehyde than those in a normal home, and triple the cancer risk, to a level that is considered unacceptable by national and International Health agencies. The centers for Disease Control has admitted its mistake and the Consumer Product Safety Commission is continuing its investigation and told us it is working to provide more specific answers for homeowners about the safety concerns. Im anderson cooper. Another edition of 60 minutes. Alright, what do you think boys . We could do tacos. We could do some thai. Ushi, [wog mueak] wh seaki , wet, wot having ba. [qog g e yon fom on. Andrivg. That. [doghine]i it sty moldovan thu th npertis ing h ritytion he u comh itown r pht togr youck. Hos conference this week featuring noura alki ink shouo. 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