Hall. Sunny and calm ahead of more rallies today. The Maryland Governor calling for a day of prayer and peace after a tul mull chous week. A mother showing her son some very tough love. That surreal scene wednesday. Orioles playing the white sox. Not a sickle fanngle fan in the stands. And six officers charged for the death of freddie gray. Sparking a National Conversation on crime. We begin in baltimore with abcs jim avila. Good morning, jim. Reporter the protests and marches continue here. Some large in size. Mostly peaceful. The real trouble coming mostly at night at curfew time overnight a curfew still in effect. More protests and baltimores Police Commissioner saying hell wait for the investigation to proceed. Now we have the confidence that the truth will come out and the truth will overcome for all. Reporter all of it sparked when baltimore stunned itself and the nation. Its youngest chief prosecutor in the country announced that she wants to put six of her Police Officers in prison for killing a poor black man. To the people of baltimore and demonstrators across america i heard your call for no justice, no peace. The city that went from riots on monday to celebrations by friday this is what democracy looks like. Reporter is patting itself on the back for standing up to what many see as an epidemic of Police Brutality. What is marching going to do . Marching got us to this point. Reporter the six officers three white and three black accused of loading freddie gray cuff and shackled face down into a police van leading to his death following an illegal arrest are free on bail and will appear in court on may 27th. Their Police Union Says they did no wrong and accused the states attorney of a political prosecution designed to quell the unrest rather than seek justice. We are disappointed in the rush to judgment given the fact the investigation has not been concluded. Reporter the union want as special prosecutors appointed but she says shes from a police family. Both parents were on the force and she told me her office will not give up the case. My job as a prosecutor is to follow and uphold the law equally applying justice to those with or without a badge. Reporter another protest scheduled for this afternoon. Baltimore authorities are reluctant to lift the curfew until theyre sure the city is safe and secure. Until then the National Guard will remain on post and the state of emergency remains in effect. George . Jim, thanks. Our next guest has been marching in baltimore streets all week long. Congressman eleash shah cummingings joins us from city hall. Thank you so much for joining us this morning. What is the result of this week . I think we did pretty good. It was a very unfortunate incident with freddie gray a young man who had died a very tragic death but as far as baltimore is concerned, i thought initially we had a lot of problems on monday but i think overall its been a lot of peaceful protests and thats a good thing. As you know those six officers are fighting the charges. We saw the head of the police union call it a rush to judgment. Are you confident these charges are going to lead to convictions and will we see in unrest if we dont . I feel very comfortable with regard to what ms. Mosley has done. She is a veteran prosecutor. Shes a young lady who has spent a lot of time addressing these kinds of issues and she is her integrity is impeccable without a doubt and i think she made the best decision she could. She looked at all the evidence and did what she had to do. What has to happen . You said members of Congress Said theyre worried their city is next. What can you do to prevent that . Well one of the things we have got to do is we have got to invest in our cities and our children. A lot of young people feel that they have been disconnected and we have to have what i call a inclusion revolution. And address issues such as joblessness and training for young people. And we also have to look at our Police Department very carefully. We need to have an up and down look at it. And address it and be honest and address it in an effective bay. A lot of us were struck by the cover of Time Magazine this week. It showed the city of baltimore striking out america 1968 and 20156789 a lot of people say baltimore never recovered from the riots in 1968. What is it going to take to recover this time . Its going to take all of us everybody from the president , the governor, all of us the legislators and were going to have the Business Community and foundations. George i can tell you people are already rallying trying to address these problems. And then again, were going to have to go back and make sure that we listen to our children. I feel their pain. Just the other day a young man told me he said mr. Cummings i feel like im in my coffin trying to claw out of it. Thats not the way we want our children to feel. Boy, that is for sure. Thank you. The death of freddie gray the latest example of what president obama called americas slow rolling crisis in the way police engage africanamericans. Whats happening now and what needs to change. Reporter the searing images ferguson. A 12yearold boy shot and killed by police in cleveland. I cant breathe and that Fatal Police Shooting of walter scott in south carolina. And now baltimore. Ah a steady stream of events stoking a growing national movement. An intense debate about race and policing. The intensity grows and the unsettling truth is that a toxic cocktail of factors exists in cities across the country. No racist police. High unemployment high poverty and crime and mistrust between minorities and the police that serve them. All it takes is one controversial encounter between a Police Officer and africanamerican male to spark a firestorm of emotion and accusations. I think were seeing a paradigm shift. Its going to take a long time for us to rebuild from the distrust thats going on right now. People are thinking thats what we do right away reach for our guns and start shooting when thats not the fact at all. The citizens are focusing on the negative which is a very, very small minority. Every day theres millions of encounter ters between police and sindss that go well. We spent time 40 miles from baltimore. They say some of the issues between minorities and police run deep. The Police Department is getting blamed through the historic lens through which black people view police in particular. And the mistrust builds. Theyre not seeing us as normal human beings and just like them but have a tough job to do. Right now Better Technology including expanded use of body cameras by police and improved training of Law Enforcement on use of force are keys to reducing encounters that end badly. On both sides we need to listen to each other. Get out of the car, interact with the citizens and let them interact with you. Pierre thomas joins us now. Our legal analyst and the former new york city Police Commissioner. Dan, these six charges came a lot faster than people expected on friday. More often than not, these Police Brutality cases end in acquittals acquittals. Yeah i think theyre going to have some issues with some of the charges. You have to look at each officers actions separately. You cant say theres six officers were going to review all together. I think theres been some overreaching on the part of the prosecutor based on the facts as she laid them out. With regard to two of the officers. Charged with manslaughter because they arrive later and dont do enough. Thats going to be a tough conviction for manslaughter. The Second Degree murder charge for the driver going to be tough. Let me stop you there. Second degree depraved heart murder. What does that mean . It means we think hes more indifferent, took action and didnt care at all. Theres no sort of firm legal line where you cross from manslaughter. Neither one requires specific intent. It says we think this one is so much worse. The reason she thinks its worse is because he had opportunity after opportunity with each stop to end this. Heres the one i dont understand. I dont understand false imprisonment for the two arresting officers. But manslaughter . I think the initial officers if they falsely arrested if they had no evidence i think theres an argument that theyre more than someone on the scene later. One of the officers not charged with manslaughter. Ray, these charges are more likely to stick if officers turn on each other. But thats rare. It is rare. Its unlikely. They see it as not necessarily in their advantage. Now maybe an argument can be made for one or two in this case. My sense is that its not going to happen. The case is perceived as being weak. I think youre not going to see that much cooperation. You think its weak across the board . I think thats the general view of the case. Certainly by the Law Enforcement people that ive spoken to. How about the general issue of these Police Departments and the need for reform . You were on just a few weeks ago after the south caroline that shootings. You turned around body cameras. What are Police Departments going to have to do to get the trust back . Theres a lot of soul searching by chiefs throughout the country. I believe the police are more diverse than ever. These events totally can turn that around. We made great progress in the last two decades. Really starting from scratch. I also believe that cameras will make a big difference. They will help. Theyre going to help. Moving in that direction. I think will increase the trust and Comfort Level over time. You agree with that . Body cameras are being used by Police Departments. They know they have to show the public what theyre doing. Also think theres going to have to be more training in terms of when to use Excessive Force and i think the Police Departments are going to have to take a look in the mirror and say they have to purge rogue officers that these incidents, when shown on tape are having a huge impact in terms of perception of police. Theyre going to have to deal with that. Brand any attorney general on the case loretta lynch. Expecting anything new from them . Well the Civil Rights Division is investigating this case too see what happened. Theres calls for an investigation of the entire baltimore Police Department. I think you will see the president continue to speak about this. The fundamental issue is the pain and poverty in these communities. One of the statistics that struck me most between 2010 and 2013 nearly 900 murders. Some years half werent solved. You cannot continue to have People Living in that condition and expect anything other than what youre see. And 17 other shootings unrelated the pro stes. Thank you all very much. We want to go to congressman tim scott. Republican of south carolina. Thank you very much for joining us. Your own state has been rocked by the shooting of walter scott last month. Is it time for a National Response to these issues . Certainly think that Law Enforcement is a local issue. The question is can we weigh in for the National Level and provide resources. I think body cameras lead us in the right direction. I say that because according to at least one study in 90 drop in complaints against Police Officers and a 60 drop in the use of force. It helps the officer do their jobs better and keeps the officer safe and at the same time helps to keep the communities safe as well. I think a part of the National Opportunity for us to provide resources is there. I would be very careful for the federal level to start figuring out how to have local policing. So we just heard the congressman talk about inclusion revolution. More federal investment. Ready to sign up for that . I have been working for the last three years on the opportunity agenda. Focuses on the power of education. I was once that kid that were talking about drifting in the wrong direction, flurvegingnking out of high school. I will tell you if we focus on first and foremost educational opportunities. If you look at the statistics surrounding Educational Achievement and the communities in most distress what youll find is that high levels of High School Dropouts which leads to high levels of unemployment which leads to higher levels of hopelessness. There is a trend that can be broken at its foundation if we focus first on education and then second on work skills. Second part of the opportunity that i had been proposing for the last three years is to focus on apprenticeship programs. Myself and a person from new jersey created a bill on apprenticeship programs. Earn while you learn. We can provide open opportunity in communities by helping folks get a better education which may include School Choice and skills for the work force. Theres this growing middle skills need in the work force where you need more than a high school education, less than a College Degree and you can earn a very strong income providing resources and opportunities in middle skill opportunity area. You have seen bipartisan calls for criminal justice reform. More drug treatment. Hillary clinton called for the end of the era in incarceration this week. Can you sign on to that . I have been a part of the working group from bobby scott in the house, to cory booker. Lindsey graham and the senate. We have been working for the last several months on different proposals. Im engaged in studying the patterns of who we incarcerate and why and what we can do about it. Were open to it and the governors have done a fabulous job according to folks on the left leading the way for criminal justice reform. Thanks for your time this morning. Well be right back with reports from las vegas on last nights mega fight. Mayweather made history and hundreds of millions was at pro boxings last hoor are. Senator Bernie Sanders standing by live back in two minutes. They call it planning for retirement because getting there requires exactly that. A plan for what you want your future to look like. For more than 145 years, pacific life has been providing solutions to help individuals like you achieve longterm financial security. Bring your vision for the future to life with pacific life. 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Pacquiao couldnt equal mayweather in the eyes of the judges. Manny pacquiaokquiao is still a champion. There was controversy revealing that a shoulder injury kept him from treatment. I hurt my shoulder. I didnt complain in the ring. The fight of the century is something boxing hasnt seen for years. A starstudded crowd. Seats selling for 300 grand online and so many watching on pay per view that Cable Systems crashed and huge money on the line. The fight bringing in 400 million. Mayweather known for his lavish lifestyle expected to take home upwards of 180 million for the win. But the onesided fight live up to the hype . Mike tyson tweeting we waited for years for that under well hmmed. It wasnt even close. All of it coming as the sport of boxing faces its greatest challenge with fans flocking to rival sports. A heavy weight bought couldnt even sell out Madison Square garden. Champs like marciano ali and tyson and mayweather announcing he may retire in september is boxings last best hope for revival or did last nights fight spark a comeback. T. J. Holmes abc news las vegas. Thanks to t. J. For that. Joining us our espn colleague steven smith and jeremy. Thank you for joining us. I know you didnt get sleep last night. You just got off the phone with Floyd Mayweather. Yes, i did. Hes obviously ecstatic he won the fight. He was not surprised by the least. He thought he was going to win. He feels hes the superior fighter and feels like Manny Pacquiao is throwing out excuses instead of acknowledging what happened that the better fighter won. There has been controversy about the shoulder injury. Youre laughing at tyson . Im laughing at mike tyson. He has nerve saying hes under well hmmed. I saw pretty bad fights over the years. Kevin mcbride comes to mild immediately. Whats your take overall and the shoulder injury for pacquiao . Its exactly the fight, george that we expected. A Floyd Mayweather win meant it wasnt going to be a crowdpleasing fight. Floyd mayweather is one of the greatest fighters ever. He is not a crowd pleaser. Hes a masterful boxer. He clearly did enough to convince the judges that he won that fight. But it didnt make the fans that happy. And steve, what does this do for the sport of boxing . We see floyd is likely to come back one more fight hoping to retire undefeated. What happens to boxing after mayweather leaves the scene . Exactly whats happening with boxing when mayweather is not fighting. You have got a lot of quality fighters and boxers in the sport. Globally its doing well. In america thats an entirely different story. We gravitate to the knockout and to the heavyweight division. If youre middle weight you need to have a lot of knockout power. Thats where the excitement of the sport really elevates. It doesnt exist right now. But you got mexican fighters like alvarez and you look at wet terweight division. Hes a knockout artist. Andre ward an american fighter out of oakland. The super middleweight champion of the world. Hes had issues thats been resolved. Hes going to be back and he can be a fight down the road. Something of this magnitude. We dont see that in the foreseeable future. Pretty bullish on the overall future of boxing you agree . I would respectfully decent from my colleague. I would say the problem, those are all great fighters. Hes talking about the fights people who are boxing fans will care about. The main stream sports fan is alienated from boxing. Last nights fight are the problem. They get a few more people into the tent for a night building up to the fight. But do you think the nfl would be more popular if the super bowl cost 100 to watch. Do you think the nba would be more popular if you had to play 100 . Thats not the way it works. The system we have in place, all the attention accrues at the top of the sport. The grass roots have been dying out in this country for a long time. Thanks. Up next Hillary Clinton gets her First Official challenger. Folk singer. Promising to shake up the democratic primary. Bernie sanders here live in just two minutes. Natural gas producer. And we could soon become number one in oil. Because Hydraulic Fracturing Technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. Supporting millions of new jobs. Billions in tax revenue. And a new century of American Energy security. The new Energy Superpower . Its red, white and blue. Log on to learn more. 40 of the streetlights in detroit, at one point, did not work. You had some blocks and you had major thoroughfares and corridors that were just totally pitch black. Those things had to change. We wanted to restore our lighting system in the city. You can have the greatest dreams in the world, but unless you can finance those dreams, it doesnt happen. At the time that the bankruptcy filing was done, the Public Lighting Authority had a hard time of finding a bank. Citi did not run away from the table like some other bankers did. Citi had the strength to help us go to the credit markets and raise the money. Its a brighter day in detroit. People can see better when theyre out doing their tasks, young people are moving back in town the kids are feeling safer while they walk to school. And folks are making investments and the community is moving forward. 40 of the lights were out, but theyre not out for long. Theyre coming back. Ill take a few questions. We dont have time. Bernie sanders squeezed out time to run for president. An unusual launch for a unique politician. The folk singer became the socialist mayor of vermont back in 1981 and took his message to the house. The rich have gotten away with murder. And the senate. This is not a tax on the rich. This is a tax on the very very very rich. And now the longest serving independent in congress i run vigorous campaigns. Is ready for hillary. And senator Bernie Sanders joins us. Welcome to this week. Why are you the best choice for president of the United States. For the last 30 years i have been standing up for the working families of this country and i think im the only candidate prepared to take on the billionaire class which controls our economy and the political life of this country. We need a Political Revolution in this country involving millions of people prepared to stand up and say enough is enough. Does that mean Hillary Clinton is part of the billionaire class . It means that Hillary Clinton has been part of the political establishment for many many years. I have known hillary for 25 years. I respect her and i like her. But i think what the American People are saying george is that at a time when 99 of all new income is going to the top 1 and when the top 1 10 of 1 owns almost as much warmth as the bottom 90 maybe its time for political shakeup in this country and go beyond establishment politics. Youre asking for a lot of shakeup. Is it possible for someone who calls themselves a socialist to be elected president of the United States . If we know that in countries in denmark and norway and sweden they are very democratic countries. Their vote of turnout is higher. Health care is the right of all people. College education and graduate school is free. In those countries Retirement Benefits are stronger than the United States of america. And those countries, Government Works for ordinary people in the middle class rather than as is the case in our country for the billionaire. I can here the ad. He wants america to look more like scanned navyia. Thats right. Whats wrong with that . Whats wrong when you have more income and quality and a stronger middle class, a higher minimum wage than we do and stronger on the environment than we do . We do a lot in our country which is good but we can learn from other countries. We have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any country on earth at the same time as were seeing a proliferation of millionaires and billionaires. I dont think thats what america is about. Youre the longest serving independent in congress. You said you would remain an independent but prepared to file as a democratic . In my heart i am an independent and have been for 30 years. Im seeking the Democratic Party nomination for president of the United States and obviously im going to follow all of the rules and regulations to get on the ballad as a democrat. If you lose will you support the democratic nominee . Yes. Not going to run as an independent. No. Which ideas . What are the biggest differences between you and Hillary Clinton . It has a lot to do with our records. I think at a time when we have seen trillions of dollars shift from the middle class to the top 1 10 of 1 we have got to say very frankly that the wealthiest people of this country and largest corporations are going to have to start paying their fair share of taxes taxes. Thats my view. In terms of Climate Change i believe this is the great Global Environmental crisis of our time. I think we need bold leadership. I have been leading the effort against the keystone pipeline. In terms of trade, i believe the trade agreements we have had from way back normal trade relations with china have been a disaster. Im helping to lead the effort against the partnership so that we do not continue to see shutdowns of factories in america and the loss of paying jobs. Hillary clinton hasnt taken a final stand on that. Thats my understand. You told my colleague that you have concerns about the money raised by the clinton foundation. What are the concerns . Its not just the clinton foundation. Here are my concerns. It should be the concern of every american. And this is in a sense what my campaign is about. Can somebody who is not a billionaire who stands for working families actually win an election in which billionaire supporting hundreds of billions of dollars into the election . Its not just hillary. It is the coke brothers. Sheldon anderson. Youre lumping her in with them . I get very frightened about the future of american democracy when this becomes a battle of billionaires. I believe we need a constitutional amendment. On our first day that we were out, we asked people to get involved in our campaign 100,000 people signed up. 35,000 made donations to berniesanders. Com and we raised 1. 5 million. You know what the average contribution was . What was it . 43. You got that berniesanders. Com out there again. You want to repeat that. Lets talk about a sanders administration. What would it look like . You voted against jack lou. Name a couple people you would consider for secretary. Robert reisch. He has been a strong progressive and understands we need economic policies that benefit working families are not the big money. I voted against these guys and i led the effort when i was in the house against the deregulation of i knew then that would be a disaster and turned out that i was right. How about secretary of defense . Well little bit premature. Not ready to do that yet. The president ial campaigns are famously xray of souls of candidates. Every part of your life is scrutinized. Whats the most surprising thing people are going to learn about Bernie Sanders over the course of the next year . I think Bernie Sanders is the proud grandfather of seven beautiful kids. Four kids. Married for almost 40 years. I grew up in a low middle class income family in brooklyn new york. 3 1 2 room apartment. Growing up with not a whole lot of money, george that has been the most significant educational factor if you like in my life. I know what thats like. Most people believe you can actually become president of the United States. Are you worried your race might weaken Hillary Clinton . Let me say this. I think few would argue it is the most unusual political career in the United States senate. Nobody thought that i would be elected mayor of burlington vermont. Very few thought i would be a congressman by 16 points and people werent sure i could beat the richest person in vermont. I would say dont underestimate me. Thanks. Thanks. Coming up what it means for hillarys campaign. Right back with the latest on bridgegate. Can a former aide make good on his threat . Theres some facts about seaworld wed like you to know. We dont collect killer whales from the wild. And havent for 35 years. With the hightest standard of animal care in the world, our whales are healthy. Theyre thriving. 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More than two years after the traffic jams engineered by aides to governor Chris Christie. Prosecutors charged three with serious crimes. They spared the governor revealing no evidence he knew about the crimes. But is that enough to revive his white house dreams . Reporter it was the traffic jam that stopped Chris Christies political rise in its track. 104 were getting calls from irate motorists. Now the lane closures have resulted in criminal charges for some of Chris Christies one time closest political confidents. David wildstein pleading guilty to conspiracy. He and others orchestrated a deliberate and illegal scheme to punish the mayor of ft. Lee for not endorsing governor Christie Christies election. Bill a powerful political appointee and deputy chief of staff, both have pleaded not guilty. David wildstein is a liar. Nowhere on fridays indictments is christie alleged to have known about the plot. Based on the evidence currently available to us were not going to charge anybody else in this scheme. Christie took that as total exoneration. Tweeting that make clear that what i have said from day one is true. I have no knowledge of this act. Still the controversy has been a serious blow to christie once considered a leading president ial contender. The fiery christie first joked about the traffic mess. I worked the cones actually. Then admitted he was embarrassed by the alleged actions of his inner circle. I am stunned by the stupidity and i knew nothing about this. But Bridget Anne Kelly hinted there may be more to come. To suggest that i was the only person in the Governors Office who was aware of the George Washington bridge issue is ludicrous. And if christie runs all of this will play out in a trial just as his president ial campaign is getting underway. Happy to be back. For this week Jonathan Karl abc news washington. Were joined by the man whose original investigation sparked the prosecution. The number two democratic john wisniewski. Thank you for joining us. We heard the u. S. Torn is planning no further indictments. That governor christie knew about the crime. Do you accept that conclusion . Its hard to be that the governor when his key appointees knew about this that he had no knowledge. Theres no evidence. You heard bridge kelly say that others in the Governors Office knew and David Wildstein say that the governor knew. So there are at least three different versions of the facts out there. The one where David Wildstein says the governor knew. Bridget kelly says folks in the Governors Office knew. Theres the report that has a different version and bill barone still claiming this is the traffic study. You have been investigateing for over a year as well. Have you found any new evidence . Theres no direct evidence that the governor knew. But hes talking about this as if what happened on friday was a vindication that he had no involvement. Even in that press conference this does not implicate or exonerate him. The governor tweeted out he took action firing staff believed to be accountable. Isnt that what a governor is supposed to do . Absolutely. We dont have all the answers yet. It is the new low in american politics is that at least i wasnt indicted. It seems to be a low standard because the governor appointed these people to high positions within his Administration One of them pled guilty and two indicted. Theres no direct evidence he knew about it. You say more to come from your committee. What more can you do that the u. S. Attorney didnt . We still have our legislative inquiry. Remember what the u. S. Attorney did was a criminal investigation to see if laws were broken and prosecution should follow. Thats not the role of the ledge legislature legislature. What do we need to do to reform the port authority. Its a huge agency. Most people dont appreciate its bigger than 26 states. Wastes a lot of money. We need to understand who gave the order to Bridget Kelly to do this so we can stop it from happening again. From our committee theres an entirely different agenda than the u. S. Attorneys office. Thanks. Thank you. Well be right back with our round table to weigh in on all the weeks politics. Catch this week online all week at abcnews. Com. On facebook and twitter. Time to end the era of mass incarceration. We need a True National debate about how to reduce our prison population while keeping our communities safe. Do we need criminal justice reforms . Absolutely. Theres a lot of pain and a lot of a lot of anger in our country because of a number of things. Been building for a long time. It is not acceptable to have these divisions between our friends in the Africanamerican Community and Law Enforcement. This idea of looking at everything the prism of race is damaging to our country. Lets talk about this now on the round table. Joined by bill crystal. Editor of the weekly standard. Katrina. Dana, former press secretary for george w. Bush and lessons and advice from the bright side and Bill Richardson. A democrat who served as governor of mexico. Welcome to all of you. Lets begin with the pretty remarkable week in baltimore. Bill you heard congressman cummings at the top saying he thought baltimore came out pretty well. Your take . I hope they come out better but its a city thats had a lot of trouble over the last few decades. Im struck by the contrast of new york. New york instituted broken windows policing. I think there were 2,300 murders in 1990 and 330 last year. Amazing drop. New york is now safe. It was three times more dangerous 20 years ago. I think you need to have tough policing. Policeman should be held accountable when they do something wrong. But cannot abandon tough policing. And under governor omalley of baltimore. Crime went down a bit during his term. Lets hope someone like Marlin Mosley signals the future. No justice, no peace. Shes speaking to communities which has abusive discriminatory policing communities of color been targeted and were seeing a history, a context, george. I think its about egregious policing. According to the aclu 109 people died in Police Custody since 2010. Buff its about the need if its possible for a National Urban agenda. These communities are trapped in a prison of inequality of despair and joblessness. I think we have a trance partisan moment where people wont channel their inner nixon but channel new ideas of new kinds of police. It does seem we heard the senator tim scott. There seems to be some kind of consensus forming about reform of the criminal justice system. This has been building. Its across the board. When you have rand paul Hillary Clinton, everybody on the same page it seems to me if they think it is this much of a problem, we shouldnt wait until the president ial election to address it. This is where i think the rubber hits the road is what are the details . What kind of crimes are they going to allow people to walk away from . Is it gun possession. It has a lot to do with this. Is the left going to be okay with illegal gun possession those crimes being reduced . Maybe so. Theres a lot of agreement. Will they actually get something done . I believe so. I think criminal justice is got to be a big issue in the president ial campaign. I mean i was a governor and then congressman in the bill clinton on the years. The thing to do was tougher penalties on drug offenders, mandatory minimum sentences. Mass incarceration, build more prisons. That doesnt seem to have worked. I think what youre going to see is candidates talking about ways that we have not necessarily fewer prisons but job training. I think theres going to be more talk about income and quality. Thats going to be a big issue. Poverty. Inner city education. I think one of the big problems we have in the inner cities is these kids these young kids need to get stronger schools and more education. We heard Bernie Sanders talking about income and quality. How serious a threat is he . Well you just introduced Bernie Sanders to millions of americans. If the main stream media gives Bernie Sanders a chance he is a real deal. You dont think he can win . There are obstacles but his message is in sync with the moment were in. He wants to fulfill the promise of america. This is not a country that is going to be defined by billionaires but lift up ordinary americans and deal with staggering income and quality. Give people good jobs not being held to corporate to find trade deals. Bernie sanders announced that he would consider running for president a year ago, lets give him a chance and the main stream media might distort others. Pop louse moment . I think it is. The answer is to lock up criminals. Bill clinton on the was right. Im disappointed to see Bill Richardson now abandoning his message. I think it is though a moment in the sense that middle class, working class americans would like to see policies that would help them more. The single best thing one could do is have more choice of schools. In new york there are terrific Charter Schools which bill de blasio is trying to shut down. Break up the Teacher Union strength. I dont think so. Will any democratic run the way bill clinton on the did this year . Im doubtful. I think there has to be a balance and clearly i think we went to have on the mass incarceration i think the police have taken a bad rap. Its clear, we need more training of our police. More diversity in the police forces. We need like in baltimore they should have been more reactive. They should have moved faster. I think its a good debate. Im not abandoning bill clip on the. I was just teasing you there. Its not even bill clinton on the. There are thoughtful republicans laying out alternatives. This is a moment for Real Solutions and not just calling for tough policing which we have seen blow up in cities. Theres a balance. Also rethinking trade, not only crime. We talked to Bernie Sanders. President obama trying hard to get it passed. Hillary clinton not ready to declare where she stands. This is one of the biggest stories of the week. You hardly have any of the moderate democrats, sort of the 1990s, 2000s left. You have them rethinking their positions and you have president obama who has not had any deep relations with anybody in congress now having to struggle and is probably going to lose on the democratic side this trade fight. Im fascinated by it and i think Hillary Clinton you think its going to go down . I think theres a possibility that this trade bill does not get passed. 84 of the house caucus is opposed to it. I remember the days on nafta. I was one of the very few that supported it when president clinton proposed it. It started building democrats and the ma majority will probably reject it. You think republicans will come around . My worry is americas labor unions. They have been very useful, very good. My worry is that this is going to be another decline if a trade bill passes. I would like to see the house and senate put very strong labor Worker RightsEnvironmental Standards in the trade agreement. But what bill is saying you know the trade unions and democrats arent against fair trade and globalization but the trade rules are being written by corporations and banks. It speaks to Bernie Sanders. He talks about the rigged rules that have been written for the few. We can do better. Before we go i want to talk about Chris Christie and the indictments on friday. He says still full speed ahead going back up to new hampshire. Any chance . He is going to town halls and trying to make his case. Some chance but not your typical republican race. The republicans are having the democratic race with i think very well qualified governors, senators former governors and so forth. I think thats christiess problem. Its not as if voters are looking around and saying we need Chris Christie. And this week alone, tomorrow youre going to have ben carson in the race. Carly is going Good Morning America and Mike Huckabee on wednesday. A thousand flowers bloom huh . I think the field is stronger than 2012 and had relief after you left politics and got to be on this side. Im having fun being an observer. I think theres a lot of debates. Only three months away from the first republican primary debate. They got to make a move and at least have some sort of leadership position. They very interesting and had a chance to meet people. The governor has been out of that state and pretty good poll shows that bush rand paul and rubio are leading in his own state. And walker is leading in iowa and new hampshire. Budget cuts and working people. Not popular. I was in the president ial race. I didnt last very long. I dont have a lot of expertise. I wouldnt count christie out. Its so early. Hes had a big blow with these indictments. I wouldnt i think huckabee he controls a large vote of the religious right. I wouldnt discount him either. Obviously im not an expert. But i think walker rubio have emerged. I still think in the end the republicans will see that their most viable candidate is jeb bush and Hillary Jeb Bush fight will be interesting and it could go either way. Thats my prediction. A long way to go. Thank you all very mu tradingin or selling your car, truck or suv . Webuyanycar. Com takes the hassle out of selling in just 3 easy steps. 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Jim eisenhower, attorney. Morning, matt. And renee amoore, gop state official. Hey, matt. Thanks for joining us, all of you. The city of baltimore has seen the pot boil over, and now a lot of people are wondering, is it simmering in other cities across the country . Hundreds had gathered for a largely peaceful protest in philadelphia over the death of freddie gray this past week, but you have to ask the question and, nia, ill got to you first does every large city in america, philadelphia