Are the two in doubledigit leads, but lets run through the entire list just to be fair to all of them. Phil murphy, jim johnson, john wisniewski, raymond lesniak, bill brennan, and mark zinna are the democrats on the slate. Kim guadagno, Jack Ciattarelli, steve rogers, joseph rullo, and hirsh singh are the republicans who would like to be the next governor. The libertarian candidates are not gonna be pictured, but well tell you they are peter rohrman. The green party has seth kaperdale, and the independent candidate is jon lancelot. What do you see as some of the differentials, and what may, in the end, make a difference . Voters are going to the polls on tuesday. Well, historically, new jersey has the opposite party of whoever won the white house tends to do well. Murphy certainly hes kind of corzine 2. 0, right . Hes a Goldman Sachs guy, a gazillionaire whos funding his own race. Weve seen this movie before. And the other key thing for murphy is hes from monmouth county. For republicans, thats a critical county to win, and hes from that county, so because of the population . What makes it critical . It is part of just like certain suburban counties of philadelphia are always important, certain counties here are really important for democrats to win. The same is over in new jersey. You tend to see that in the voting totals. So youd have to give murphy a bit of an edge at this point between the cash, et cetera, et cetera. He has spent 18 million, which outpaces all of his opponents on his team, you know, three to one, nearly. Hes a former ambassador to germany, but was heavily attacked in the primary, which did leave some interest in other candidates to some of the people out there. What do you think will happen . But i really think that hes trying to sort of say that, yes, im a rich guy. I was part of Goldman Sachs, but i do understand the issues and concerns that people have. Joe biden was in last week to sort of say, you know, i believe that he can understand the issues of the working man and working woman, and hes also agreed to abide by Campaign Finance limits for the general election in a way to say, look, i think that these rules matter, and i need to be a part of them. The person who has the highest total in the latest survey is the Lieutenant Governor, whos been the Lieutenant Governor now seven years, kim guadagno. Shes at 37 if you believe the polls. But do we think that another person whos been in office is gonna continue or are people trying to throw out everybody they know and start again . Well, thats why i think the elevation of murphy strikes me as a little tonedeaf, because if we learned anything from november, its that the electorate is up in arms, and theres a populist wave, and so going back to the corzine model just seems silly to me from a strategic standpoint. I agree with you, sharmain. He seems like a credible candidate and a smart guy, but running a Goldman Sachs guy in this environment seems very tonedeaf to me. And youre right. Guadagno has been around, but i think shes slightly ahead now largely due to name recognition. And they did have a debate, so its been hard for them, actually, with all the National Headlines happening out of washington, to even get a little traction and get some coverage, because its been taken off page one by d. C. Coverage. But now since theyve had a debate, the undecideds have narrowed dramatically, about nine points. That may help them, val. The race is tighter than the polling we had seen in the newspaper. Burlington county and the Republican Party always seems to pick the winner. Theyre with guadagno in this race. They have a good republican machine there. Shes attacking Jack Ciattarelli on taxes. That always does well in a republican primary. But i think its gonna tighten up. I agree with the comment about, you know, the irony of the Democratic Party having a frontrunner as a wall street executive from Goldman Sachs. Well see how that plays out. I dont want to handicap that race. I think guadagno wins that closely in the republican side. All right, back on this side of the river, philadelphia has a new District Attorneyelect, at least if you look at the number of registered voters seven to one democratic in the city and the democratic winner of the primary whos gonna be up for election in november, of course, against a republican, larry krasner, had an important meeting last week with john mcnesby, head of the fop. Theyve been a bit at loggerheads, because there were chants at several krasner rallies that were not complimentary to police, so krasner has asked if he can speak before police, and the head of the fop has certainly said you can have your chance. But theres been some ill will. Do you think its unfair, or do you think this is maybe a moment to heal things before it gets any further down the line toward november . This is a big test for krasner, whos basically a political unknown, whether he can be conciliatory and bring people together. The question about krasner is, is he an activist, or is he a politician who can forge coalitions . And the jurys out on that. You know, my other concern about krasner is hes never managed anything. We forget that being District Attorney is actually running a staff of some 600 lawyers and 50 million, and im just concerned that we get away im done with support ive said this before im done with supporting people who need onthejob training in politics. Like, we did that with kathleen kane. Howd that work out for us . Right. But we just talked about the fact that, you know, we want not to be tonedeaf about picking people who seem to be traditional type of candidates when we talked about new jersey. The same thing is true here. I mean, its obvious that he organized a really good team of people that he had worked with over the years to help him get elected at a time when everyone was saying, absolutely no way. He cant win. Mmhmm. And i give him credit for actually sitting down with the head of the fop. My understanding is that the meeting went really well, and he is gonna go before the fop and make his case. So, again, im glad to see someone, a new face, come in and hopefully youll help him, larry. But emotions run deep. Emotions run deep, because the day after the primary, mcnesby called krasner supporters parasites, and during the campaign, the chance at the krasner rallies not that krasner said this, but some of his supporters said, no good cop in a racist system their words. So theres some deep emotions. Well, first of all, krasner would not be where he is now other than george soros, who has no connection to philadelphia, dropping 1. 4 million into the campaign, okay . Thats what it is. This billionaire a mysterious billionaire brought this race for him. This guys probably the most antipolice candidate in the history, at least in modern history. He has said he wont prosecute minor crimes. Thats called the broken windows theory. It showed that it worked in new york city and other places, that you do enforce crimes, smaller crimes, and he says hell never go for the Death Penalty. So, im sure in this city, to be honest with you, you got d at the end of your name, hell get elected. But its a shame, because grossman, whos his opponent, was a d up until a few months ago. I guess it flipped. But this guy is an extremist, and hes backed by a billionaire who has no connection to the city. I think the important thing in this election is that he made all of those he made that case to the electorate. Its really up to them to really decide whether or not they are looking for someone new. The issue around the Death Penalty hes been absolutely clear as it relates to that, and i think the issue of having supporters scream horrible things i could certainly go back to the trump election and i could give you a litany of negative things that people have said that i dont think any of us would ultimately support. The issue is not that for the fop, and ive spoken to Many Police Officers and the fop this week. The issue is not that some supporters were saying some distasteful things about cops. Its that you have here a radical defense attorney who has cast aspersions on police and their credibility, who would turn philadelphia into chicago where police would know that the d. A. Doesnt back them up. So this goes beyond that. In beth grossman, we have a candidate we can get behind whos a sort of a traditional prosecutor, and shes gaining traction now over this. The republican candidate, right. In my capacity as the chairman of the Republican Party, ive gotten calls from democrat donors in the last two weeks, from fop officials, from even philadelphia ward leader democrat ward leaders who are disgusted by this choice. Id bet my house that he does not krasner does not get the the fop endorsement. And its and we are gonna have a and beth grossmans gonna give a real challenge to krasner. He was a defense attorney for 30 years and took on some black lives matter cases, some things that, you know, are not necessarily and not just that. It was extreme. But there is bipartisan agreement on a lot of his reforms like cashbail reform and even the Death Penalty. So im not sure hes that far extreme, but i agree with you guys in the sense that he ran against the d. A. s office. He didnt just run against seth williams. He ran against the d. A. s office and cast aspersions the citizen we published a letter from 12 that was signed by 12 former a. D. A. S. Theyre predicting that there will be a mass exodus of a. D. A. S because of the aspersions hes cast. Thats why hes got it in the general election, hes got to prove to be a healer, someone who brings people together. And in a city with seventoone democratic edge of registration, can a republican candidate win . Will enough ds jump on board as weve seen in National Politics where not everybody votes along party lines . Can enough people get behind another candidate . Would you be surprised . Its gonna be an election. I mean, thats the reason why we have them. Its gonna be an opportunity for both sides to say whether or not they can actually lead the office in a way that people feel is fair, whether its to those who are coming before it or for those who are looking for the d. A. s office to really support their efforts. And i think a lot of these are really great questions, and i believe that larrys gonna be able to answer them and win. Its gonna be interesting. All right, 17 months from now, well be talking about pennsylvanias gubernatorial race, and some people are already getting their ducks in a line, if you will, to possibly run. One of those is the house speaker, mike turzai, who did send a letter of intent and asking for backing from the republican state committee, as you will know. Mmhmm. So, now the question is, should he resign from his speakership, or should he continue in that role as he runs, which is his legal right at the moment . A poll show that most people in the state, at least the ones polled 58 thought he should step down and give the election his full interest, if thats, in fact, what he decides to do. What do you think, val . Well, thats a decision thats gonna be made by the Republican Caucus in harrisburg. I dont think he needs to resign. I think he can do both. I think it gives him a bully pulpit, and why should he give that up . He has a great record on holding the line on taxes, on defeating Governor Wolfs agenda to have tax increases on everything from diapers to Funeral Services and everything in between. Theres no reason why he should give up that role just because hes running for governor, but ultimately thats a decision thats gonna be made by the Republican Caucus. And other people want that job, too, possibly. State senator scott wagner, Allegheny County businessman paul mango, and former Lieutenant Governor jim cawley, maybe, in the offing for that job. All right, talk about the dnc, which came to our city last summer. The state appropriated 10 million in funds to help with some of the overriding costs. Its a very expensive thing to stage a convention, and our city did a beautiful job, by the way. But now theres some accountability questions. Where did the 10 million go . There had been some issues about possibly bonuses being given that were inappropriate. These are the questions that now are gonna go before a committee and be heard, and former governor ed rendell is agreeing to testify, if the words correct, or least speak to these question marks. What do you thinks gonna happen on that . Well, first of all, we know where the 10 million went. It was spent very quickly on the infrastructure that was needed to pull off the dnc. And i should say that the the very small group compared to other committees in other cities that put the dnc together did a fantastic job. We should pause at that. We should stipulate that. What happened here is a question of bad optics. This should have been a oneday story when the bonuses were announced. It looks bad to give the head of the committee a 310,000 bonus. But that really had nothing to do with the 10 million in state it was a separate pile of money. Separate bank accounts, separate everything. All the money that was spent by the state was put into a s it was for specific things that was spent and audited, and, look, if i was a republican or a democrat, if i was the governor, id be asking for these kind of show hearings. I get that part of it. The governors asking for it, so not just anybody. And i get it, and im sure the governor at one level Governor Wolf is probably so tired of hearing what a great guy ed rendell was, you know . He probably wouldnt mind kind of but at the same time, the state money was put into a and thats an important fact in a separate bank account for specific things, and that money was spent for those things. So this is other monies. And im not hearing a lot from the individuals who donated or the corporations who donated. Theyre not complaining. It seems to be other factors. I know, but david cohen, i think you know, gave a very strong statement saying that he had been involved, he had been responsible for helping with some of the fundraising, and certainly is a friend of ed rendell, certainly not someone who is not supportive, and said, you know, he was unaware of it, and he thought that the decision was made in a too small a group of people and that more people should have been brought in as a part of the decision, and if it had been up to him, he would not have made that decision. So, i do think there still is some concern about how the decision was made and whether or not it was the right decision. To give the bonuses. So it begs the question on a macro level should the state be giving funds to some of these big conventions and conferences in the first place . Are we past the point where the state should help with some of that and just get private monies to do it as they did when the pope came to visit . No, i dont have a problem with the state chipping in for that. Its good for the region, its good for our economy, it makes philadelphia look like an international city, so i dont have a problem with that. It was disturbing. Look, its nothing wrong with giving bonuses to people that work hard, but this looks to be a decision that was made by a very small group of people. It should be done on a contract in advance that if we have money left over and youve met these goals, then you get a bonus. To do this willynilly looks like, lets just give the rest of the money we have away without regard to taxpayers. They also gave some to charity and to other deserving books for the city schools. They gave to nonprofits, and also money to the city, as well. 500,000 back to the city. But i think this was all a question of tone. When this first became known, if governor rendell had just said, you know what . This wasnt transparent enough. We should have been more transparent about it, it would have been a oneday story, blip on the screen, and then its gone. Its another lesson in just sort of owning it. Owning it and then moving on. All right, were gonna take a break. Inside story continues right after this. Stick around. Inside story is presented by temple university. Remarkable change isnt easy, but for those who take charge, it comes naturally. Explore temples impact. Visit temple. Edu impact. Welcome back to inside story. A bit of a controversy pennsylvania senator pat toomey is now a member of a 13member Senate Committee that is going to be reviewing changes to healthcare as they try to work out their new approach to affordable healthcare changing the obama version, of course. The question has become, is he an appropriate person to be on that committee, first of all, because is there a conflict of interest, is what critics are saying. He got a number of donations totaling millions from some of the healthcare entities, including hmos, as well as some people who did medicare and that kind of legislation. So is it, you know, the fox watching the henhouse here . I mean, is he objective enough . Lets hear what you think. I think hes totally objective. Look, theres not a u. S. Senator or congressman who hasnt gotten donations from pharma or Health Companies or whatever. So, i mean, thats kind of theyre part of that process. And i do want to say, too, we represent Health InsurersIndependence Blue Cross and amerihealth caritas. I do think, though, that in pat toomey, you have somebody kind of what he did on gun control, which is at the same time, he was this conservative guy who was able to find a way to kind of bridge the middle ground. And while theres problems with obamacare, the fact of the matter is, particularly in issues like medicaid and some of the medicaid expansion. I mean, i had a fella who came by my office, his name is joe mcgrath. He has parkinsons. His wife has cancer. His daughters 18, profoundly challenged. Mm. He said to me, brian, this shell have to be institutionalized. Its gonna cost the state more, the government more to do that than let her stay at home with us. So, its all the joe mcgraths of the world and their families and their daughters that we cant forget, and im as conservative fiscally as you can imagine, and ive been doing this show for 30 years, so people know it. But lets not forget those who really are needy. And the governor has send a letter saying to pat toomey that the state has, you know, some issues with the changes that could be in the offing for the state. Well, understand that under obamacare, they dramatically increased the medicaid program, so it was designed for the disabled, the elderly, and children and the poor. So now, for the first time, under obamacare, its covering folks who are ablebodied without dependents, and paying 100 of it. Now, the Current Program pays 52 48 split between the state and the federal government for the traditional poor and disabled. Mmhmm. So, in order to make the Program Sustainable, what senator toomey wants to do is just say to the state, lets have the same 52 48 split. Its not, lets do away with the program created under obamacare. Lets have the same 52 48 split. Now, of course, you know, Governor Wolf is up in arms about that, but if he wants to have some skin in the game and he cares about this program, theres no reason the state shouldnt agree to that split and make the Program Sustainable for future generations. And dont we need more politicians in particular who can find the middle ground, who might be part of one party, but they dont necessarily go with their team leader all the time and they work to find the middle . Absolutely. We forget that obamacare was based on bob doles healthcare policy in the 1996 president ial campaign and mitt romneys healthcare experiment in massachusetts. So its a sign of how far apart our politics have gone. The other thing ill say about toomey is that and i agree with brian that if you look hard enough, you find a conflict throughout the u. S. Senate. I dont think thats the issue. The issue is, really, an allwhite male working group you cant get senator collins, susan collins, on there who actually has a plan, a constructive plan along with senator cassidy . You cant get her on the committee to work this out . Theyre gonna be talking about preexisting conditions that apply specifically to women, and its all guys that look like us. In fact, pregnancy and Maternity Care are gonna be considered preexisting conditions. Talk about tonedeaf. All right. And we have a possible local person who may be going to the Trump AdministrationPennsylvania Trump Campaign manager david urban is rumored to be considered maybe the next chief of staff. Do you think thats a good call, and are you surprised that some pennsylvanians are being pulled into his service . Well, no, im not surprised that some pennsylvanians are being pulled in, because you already have jim schultz who is in the Attorneys Office with the president already, so i think that there definitely are pennsylvania connections. I know val probably has a good sense about whos been called and who hasnt, but i do think that this ongoing conversation about can you get people in the white house that the president is ultimately going to listen to and value their opinion . I think is still up for grabs. I dont care whether theyre from pennsylvania or from pittsburgh. [ chuckles ] well, theyre isnt it early to be having staff shakeups, though . Isnt it early . Dont we usually see that at midterms or see it right after a reelection where people are tired of it usually is, but this obviously isnt working really well. I mean, lets face it. And those of us who are you know, have been republicans for a long time, youd have to be foolish to not be concerned. But you could bring in jim baker at his peak in 1986 or whenever he was advising reagan, and if the president isnt willing to take advise from smart people like david urban, who would be a terrific pick hes a really smart guy. He was Arlen Specters chief of staff. He served in the military, et cetera. But the president has to be willing to not necessarily agree with all of his staff, but take their opinions at times, and i think sometimes the president struggles with that. And urban would be terrific because for what you put your finger on. He served Arlen Specter. He told Arlen Specter when he was wrong, which is no small order, right . And was listened to, and thats what trump needs. Trump is surrounded by but im not sure that people arent already doing that, and hes still not paying attention. His own daughter opposed him on the climate change, the paris deal, and he didnt choose to go that way. Im not sure that there arent people doing that. In the end, it has to be up to trump to say that this is not the same thing as running the trump organization. And until that happens, i think you can bring in a bunch of great people. Its not gonna make a difference. We got to leave it at that. Inside stories of the week coming your way right after this. Inside story is presented by temple university. Remarkable change isnt easy, but for those who take charge, it comes naturally. Explore temples impact. Visit temple. Edu impact. Time for inside stories of the week, and lets start with val. Bad news for illinois. They cant seem to get their act together on getting a budget, and they have a big pensionobligation crisis there, and theyre now gonna be downgraded to junkbond status maybe in the next month. And in pennsylvania, the good news is weve got the same issues. The good news is weve got a pensionreform bill on the table that the house and Senate Republican leaders have agreed to. I think Governor Wolf will sign it. It should run next week. Well hope the governor does the right thing and keeps pennsylvania from going to junkbond status. All right. Sharmain. Well, its june, and many of us are thinking about highschool graduations, but we have a lot of Highschool Students who are thinking about where is my summer job . And so i want to continue to encourage the business community, government, everyone to get together to find jobs for teens this summer. Were hoping to get to 10,000. We think that there are about 18,000 kids out there, so we have to have a lot more work to do, so if you have a job for a philly teen, phillysummerjobs. Org. Pitch in. All right. Brian. Guess who was in iceland recently. Mayor kenney. How about that . He criticized mayor nutter for travel and others, as well. This time he realized he should go, its good for mayors to do these sorts of things, and governors, to represent us on the world stage. So, congratulations, mayor, and please travel more. All right. Larry. Theres speculation that state senator daylin leach will challenge congressman pat meehan for congress in the 7th congressional district. Whats interesting about that is meehans tough. Hes got a lot of money. Hes wellensconced in delaware county. But i think what leach is banking for is a wave election that could carry him to victory. And do you think that he has the standing to do it at this moment . Itll be itll be difficult, but what leach proved with medical marijuana is that hes not just a comedian. He can actually bring coalitions together. All right, and thats inside story for this week. Thanks to you for watching. Thanks to our insiders for your thoughts and your time. Hope to see you right back here next sunday morning. Im nydia han along with gray hall. Coming up next on action news, tragedy and terror overseas after an attack in london leaves seven dead. Reaction from witnesses very little and. Officials. The man accused of stabbing city councilman david oh appears in court. And the contributions made by the late amelia young. Those stories and more next on action news. Goldman sachs was one of those Companies Whose illegal activity helped destroy our economy. Vo as a Goldman Sachs president , phil murphy made his fortune in a rigged system. Now the jersey machine has lined up with murphy and his millions. Leaders should stand for the people, not the political machine. As a prosecutor, at treasury, and as head of the brennan center, ive taken on the powerful from the mafia, to the nra, to the dark money that poisons our politics. Ill be nobodys governor but yours. Good afternoon it is sunday, june 4 im nydia han along with gray hall. Heres a look at the stories were following on action news. Police make multiple arrests in connection with the deadly terror attack in london. 24 hours after the attack what it means for the benefit concert in manchester. A twoyearold boy is dead