And talk to brand new ted cruz senator Lindsey Graham. Hillary Clintons Campaign back on track. Plus, insights from florida voters disappointment in the prospect of match up between Hillary Clinton and donald trump. The greatest country on earth right now were to pick the lesser of two evils. Dickers captioning sponsored by cbs to face the nation im john dickerson. There was more violence and protests this weekend on the campaign trail. Outside phoenix, arizona, protesters blockaded the road rally for several hours. Three were arrested. Later in tucson, a man who was with woman wearing a kkk hood was trump supporter. And about a thousand antitrump protesters in new york city marched from central park to as donald trump seems headed towards his partys nomination. Trying to stop that in a more peaceful way is Governor John Kasich of ohio. We spoke with him earlier. Rder for to you get the nomination youd have to win more than 100 of the remaining delegates so how are you going to do it . Well, first of all, nobody is going to have theed going to the convention. Everyone will fall short. The convention, by the way, is an extension of the political process. Sois people will go there with certain number of delegates, we will go in to cleveland with momentum. And then delegates are going to number one, who can win in the fall. Im the only one that can. Thats what the polls indicate. Number two, john, really crazy consideration. Like who could actually bet of the United States . I think when they take a look at my record both in washington and in ohio, with the job growth, the wage growth, reforming the, then can understand i think i will be picked. I dont think is going to get there with delegates that they need to win. Why shouldnt the person who goes in to the convention if they dont have majority of delegates if theyre well ahead why shouldnt they get the nomination . You know what, its like one said. I had an 86 my other friends had less than that so i should get an a. A. We have rules as to how many delegates. If you go in way ahead, youre likely to beesting is in the ten contested republican conventions, you know that the leader going in only got picked three times. Have to tell you that who is going to win in the fall . Who is going to beat hillary . These other folks cant win. They cant win ohio. I can tell you that. Look at the resume. Look at the record, who actually get us moving again bothh Foreign Policy. That should be a consideration now, its not much of one to be honest with you. But when we get to a convention, i was there when Ronald Reagan challenged gerald ford. How many people were mad at reagan . His message mattered. He came close, ultimately became one of the greatest president s weve ever had. A very interesting thing and delegates take things extremely seriously. Let me also tell you, john, if somebody can get the numbers theyre not going to get the numbers. Everybody chill out. Dickerson some people to get the numbers because ted cruz is closer to that number than you are. He needs 80 of the votes tot going to happen, john, you know it, i know it. Dickerson has anyone nobody is calling me directly asking me to drop out. t they drop out. Wait a minute, john, why dont im the one that can win in the fall. You know another interesting thing, this party has run arounds saying, how is it that we elected a oneterm United States senator to be president who has never had the experience. That . Remember that . Here is what i would say. I can win in the fall, they cannot. Re delivering positive message youve stayed away from some of the back and forth, would you not in the pursuit of your nomination not want the help of forces, the organized efforts to stop donald trump . You know, john, im not i Political Science game or some calculation. Let me just tell you, the people are nervous about their work, kids future. Thats what i focus on, responding to that legitimate concern that they have. And i tell them exactly how inhad Great Success i tell them about the 417,000 people who are now working in a job when i became governor. I have people that come to my rallies and thank me for the fact that i have focused on the issue of Mental Illness and drug addition. Ime to sit around thinking about this antitrump group or that group. Let me just do my job, okay . Let me just continue to the public and well see where it all ends up. I think this is a very, very constructive message to the American People because i want you, the American People, you in to believe that you can change the world and we need you to do it. Because youll revive the spirit of our country. Ople who are trying to stop donald trump believe that many of the things you just described are impaled by his candidacy that gives him exercise. T wondering whether you think theyre wrong, theyre crazy, they missed something . Is interesting some of thoseted me to get out of the race they wanted to get behind rubio, what happened . Rubios out, im in. If i dont win ohio, guess what, trump is the i want how they want me to get out . Listen is, these are the same establishment people that have been nighting me my entire you know what, ill tell what you is in my minds eye. The people i grew up with, the people that walk door to door for me. We had people from 22ing phone banks in ohio. They came from all over the country to help because theyre hopeful that together we can raise this country. I dont have time to think about all this politicalin some back room somewhere, okay, john . Im in the doing it. You have known me long enough to know what you see with me is what you get. End of story. On you brought on people to help you with the calculation, people with experience. Sure. About the calculation wait a minute, first of all, the convention is an extension of this process. Of course i want stu spencer and and v. I. P. Webber and i want tom ridge. Of course i want the former governor of utah. I want them all to help me. Convention some sort of subject track final. Nothing more than extension of what were doing now. Nobody gets delegates which they have to work at the convention. I will spend my time convincing them about my electability and my record. If they buy it, great. If they d my best. John, im perfectly comfortable with this. Dickerson let me ask you president ial question about Merrick Garland put forward byrt. This could be decision you have to handle. What is your feeling about the way that your republican to that nomination from the president . Should send it i knew something was going to happen. Frankly ought to all sit downh the guy and my feeling is at the end of the day whoever gets elected president should be in a position to be able to pick who they want people will decide by either voting for republican or democrat the make up of the court is. I just think that is a process that can unite us rather thant right now continues to divide us. Dickerson somebody talked about unity, would you take a look at mr. Garland when ifesident . Well, you know, he received overwhelming support, i think even from senator hatch. Of course wed think about it. John, we look at persons record, i want to conservative who is not going to make the law but who will interpret the law. Somebody of high standing, i dont careill lows 30 years ago we have a process, ive appointed over 100 judges in ohio including a woman point toourt and weve had good success with our selection. Dickerson Governor John Kasich of ohio thank you. Thank you. Er we taped that interview yesterday governor kasich said that he would not appoint judge garland to the Supreme Court that his comments were an effort to be polite. M the campaign trail senator brands is in tucson, arizona. Weve looked at the math here for the contesting go forward and it look like youd have to win almost 60 of the delegates. What is your path to the nomination thats a big number. It is. But i think that the states that are coming up on tuesday we have idaho, utah, arizona, out west to washington. We got alaska. We have hawaii. We think that the path forward is a for us. Clearly secretary clinton did very, very well in the deep south. Think as we go forward going tg better and better. I think people are also going to appreciate when they look at the does better against donald trump than Hillary Clinton does. In fact in the last nbc poll we were 18 points ahead trump far more so than secretary clinton that will play a factor in the coming states. Dickerson se the deep south. Here is the point as you well know. She did. Ay you look at michigan, illinois, missouri, we come out almost the same in terms of delegates. Y clinton got about two million more votes than you have. The theory of our campaign of your presidency has been to create a movement, to create momentum to gather people. Able to gather more people mind her message than you. Isnt that a threat to the theory of the not atat youre really talking about she did very well in the deep south. She in muss miss and southsh i didnt have to say this but everything being equal no democrat right now, i hope that changes, is going to win thosetates in the general election. We have now won nine states. I think in couple of weeks going to see us win more states. I think we head to the west probably the most proceed depressive part of America Progressive part of america, the grotesque level of income and wealth and equality, health care, medicare for all raising the minimum wage, the 15 an hour i think the people in those states really are not going to be voting for establishmentstablishment economics. They want real change. I think going to do well there. Dickerson you have over the last month or so been drawing greaterary see that all the way up through the convention, every sharpr distinction that senator sanders draws has potential unsettling things if Hillary Clinton becomes the nominee. Trust me, there is nothing that i am ever going to saycretary clinton that ive never run a negative ad. You should see some of the negative ads against us from the nothing that i will say will compare in any way to what the republicans will say. What an election is about, john,s. It is differences of opinion. And, yes, Hillary Clinton has moved offer the last ten months much closer to the ive been advocating for 20 or 30 years. But the differences remain, our history in politics is very and i think the people of this know that. I think the central issue is, if you are secretary clinton andg many millions of dollars through your super pac from wall street, from the drug companies, from the fossil fueleally going to be the agent of change in taking on the billionaire class. Taking on wall street. Taking on the big moneyeed in my view right now. And that is an issue that the voters will have to decide. Dickerson one last tacticals been a report that you might go to the convention and if youre behind in delegates try to flip those superdelegates to win through using the is that a strategy you are looking at . The whole concept is superdelegates is problematic. But i would say that in states where by 20, 5 points, i think might be good idea for superdelegates to homed to a person the other day who said, you know what, i am going to listen to my state, if my state votes for you, bernie, youre going to haink that i would hope that lot of the superdelegates take that factor into consideration. Dickerson that is a strategy youre pursuing . To superdelegate banders won your state by 20 or 30 points you might want to listen to your state. I think that is common sense ielegates should do that. Dickerson if they didnt come from state that you won they shouldnt feel compelled to go for you. Their own decision. They have right to make that decision. I would argue that many of thehat is most important as it is for me and secretary clinton, by the way, making sure that no republican occupies the white house. And if people conclude this campaign if we have we win number of states, thats also an if. If that is the factor, appears that i am the against trump i see superdelegates saying, i like Hillary Clinton but i want to win this thing, bernie is our guy. Ght. Senator sanders thanks for being with us. Thank you, john. Dickerson well be back in a moment. Ring is caringng heals faster. For a bandage that moves with you and stays on all day, d brand flexible fabric adhesive bandage. Jake reese, day to feel alive eese, day to feel alive jake reese, your makeup remover take it all off . Every kissproof, cryproof, stayproof look . Neutrogena makeup remover does. It erases 99 of your most stubborn makeup ette. Need any more proof than that . Neutrogena. Dickerson were back with former republican president ial candidate and South Carolina senator Lindsey Graham who is now supporting senator cruz. No delegates, by the way. Want to rub that in. You once said that choosing between trump and cruz is like difference between being shot or poisoned. How is your health . Well, you can maybe antidote. The bottom line is that i believe donald trump is utter disaster for the republican we know it. Wiped out in generations overcome a trump candidacy. Ronald reagan had the threelegged school. Fiscal, social,al security. Donald trump has four, got to bigger. Economic population, race baiting, religious bigotry isas formed that is his campaign, that is not conservatism. Ted cruz in my view is a real republican who i often disagree with. Ted because i think hes the best alternative to donald trump. John kasich is the most electable republican i dont know he has chance to win at theause outsider year, and john kasich is an insider and most delegates are looking for outsider. I love john kasich if he stays they dont coordinate the efforts between cruz and kasich, were going to wind up giving the nomination to trump. Dickerson you say outsider hes getting the votes. 35 to 40 is probably where hes going to be. Lot of people believe thatis a real problem hes playing on the feeds. Most rapist and drug dealers thats correct not. Here is why were losing hispanic vote. Isten to you about your economic plan or your ability to if youre going to deport yourn the party of family sam use. I like that. There are 11 million illegal immigrants, 60 have been here a decade. Citizen children and grandchildren. What do you think is going to happen to my republican friends if our position is that were going to take the grandmotherican citizen, member of the military who is illegal. How do we get that person to vote for us if were going to deport their grandmother when all shes done violatews. This is why were getting mr. Trump taken every problem weve had with lis panicsine on it. Dickerson what is the gap between republicans who share your view would like to stop donald trump . What is the gap between what they say theyre willing to do publicly. Were a divided party. We have a lot of angry people who have been told things by senator cruz and others that wen we actually could do. Country is in a mess. I can understand being frustrated with illegal immigration. Youre not going to fix it by having a position like mr. Trumphance of getting through the senate. Dickerson what im asking, how many people do you have behind you to stop donald trump because right now hes going past all 55 of the Republican Party would like to vote for somebody other than donald trump. Were about to nominate the one person that not only would lose in 2016 but would detroy thedes to come. I would rather lose without trump than try to win with him. If he wants to lead the party, him if hes nomination . Ask me later. Im making it clear i thinkparty that i love as much as i disagree with ted cruz i think hes real republican, nominate conservative judges, will not lois decreal out. P is an interloper and what demagogue. Dickerson youve signed a pledge youd be willing to break that pledge . Im out of the race now. Ose an election but i dont want us to lose our heart and soul f. We nominate donald is and what he said about immigrants, about muslims, and young women, we will not just lose an election, weve lost the heart and soul ofement. Thats what is at stake. I hope john kasich is listeningf the most electabled to deny trump 1237 or 1239 not willing to work with ted youre hurting the cause byh making it harder for ted to get 50 . Dickerson the future of the middle east, which is moreepublican party . Theres a pathway in the mid east i dont see one right new for the Republican Party in all lot of issues the country will be dealing with in the future. How you bring the broken and divided country together. If mr. Trump the answer to the mid east this his Foreign Policy is jibberish. The mid east is a mess. The Republican Party is at Tipping Point here. Were going down one of two trump road which is destruction of conservatism. Going to reevaluate go down a road a little more optimistic, i and john kasich represent that path. Mid east politics to me sends to dickerson very quickly, the constitution is there support for blocking the president s nominee on the supreme to ask president obama that because thats what he did. Dickerson all right. Ill have to end it there were running out of time. Stion later, thanks for being here. Sen well be right back. Weve created a new company. Y focused on whats next for your business. A True Partnership eas push everyone forward. Accelerating innovation. Accelerating transformation. T. They are. Do i look smarter . Yeah, a little. Youre making money now, are you investing . Well, ive been doing some research. Ce you to our broker. How much does he charge . I dont know. Okay. Uh, do you get your fees back if youre not happy . Ughing. Thats not the way the world works. Well, the worlds changing. 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How many of positive impression raise your hand. None of not be happy about this election so far. What is going on . Explain it . Think were losing sight or ht about what is really important to the American People. Thinking more about each other instead of us. I think we all theyref what theyre trying to achieve. Most troubled by the fact that so many people support hillary and trump. Its shocking to me. None of people i know. They dont liket like hillary. They are so emotionally driven they act like kids. I think that donald trump is treating this like reality show crisis. Hes already got the car, already got the plane. Now he wants to buy the presidency, buy the country. Hillary clinton, thats all Government Service life and shes been banking on it making money off of it this entire time. Dickerson more from these florida voters and frank in our we can help guide your investments through good times and bad. 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