In these different joints at different rates according to the location of the joint This way you'll work next to sell Amanda's it is so we wracked our brains for a couple of years trying to figure out Ok it's amazing number one that there is this repair response but why is it differing according to the locations and why is it the best at the ankle and why is it that you hardly ever see really severe ankle arthritis and so that's when we started thinking about the Salamander and a couple of years ago an inspiring paper came out that showed that there are these particular types of molecules called micro r.n.a. These very small molecules that we have a couple 1000 different ones that are master regulators of all kinds of prophecies and they were able to pinpoint some of the that seemed to be shared across all the animals that are able to regenerate their limbs so that got us thinking Wow Could it possibly be that that same mechanism is somehow playing a role not a full role because we don't you know regenerate a limb and people but could it be playing some role here because we know that the salamanders are able to regenerate their feet better than they can regenerate their elbows or their shoulders or their hips Is it too crude to say that if you drilled into my ankles you might find some of these micro are amazed that you also find salamanders of our basically So when we searched for those same components that the Salamander has these micro day we looked at the 3 of the top ones that a bunch of the different limb regenerating animals have and we have them too but it would be different for example in my knee you hit yes so there's less in your knees and even less in your hips so the ankles have more of them than these other 2 sites and do you know what. These micro R.N.A.'s do I mean it's I think them these are tiny little sort of messenger molecules that turn on or turn off genetic and protein processes but what is really hard to catch Get your head around is the fact that micro Arnie's tend to turn things off so why would something that turns off a process even be thought of as being involved with regeneration it turns out that they turn off things that are turning off for a generation is like saying that break cables Exactly so you do find these micro R.N.A.'s in people we do produce them and if they were working at full steam then we might not get so much I'll see ya thrice this and possibly if they were working at whatever steam they've got right now we might have osteoarthritis one or a couple of years old. So what's the next step I'm not quite sure what you do with this kind of knowledge because if we're not making them there's presumably good reason we're not making them it's probably just an evolutionary holdover that we are not making them at the hip because you know an animal that may be trying to escape a predator or if the foot gets chewed off you know they can regenerate that and live to run another day whereas if they get chewed off all the way up the limb maybe they're going to bleed and they're not going to survive so there has been an evolutionary selection for trying to regenerate as well as you can and parts of the limbs the end part of the tail so you can escape but still survive so it's probably just a consequence of that biology that we've inherited at least part of it and so we think that with this knowledge and a new way of thinking and a new paradigm that there is a possibility for a repair using natural components that simplistically these things could be injected into the joint to actually boost repair or natural. 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Time Sol flies as of this report only $420.00 days remain until the 2020 presidential election which means reporters editors anchors and pundits are running out of time to speculate trivialize and marginalize to be baited by irrelevancy and some other wise miss the forest for the clicks buck they've already got a head start with the 5 women in the running for the Democratic nomination the media are already a bounds with nonsensical tropes Bernese everything Warren is but better he's more energizing more unifying certainly more authentic The question really is not just an if not can a female win for president but can a female beat Trump scholars have long since established measurable by a seasoned double standards in the perception of women holding and seeking power but now in the me too age and in the wake of the midterm elections serves of women into the House of Representatives the news media have a chance to choose new habits over old ones and so we bring you this breaking news consumers handbook gender and politics edition which we 1st aired February 1st on the list the flawed and fraught metric of likability the model of political leadership for a long time has been do you want to have a beer with as a presidential candidate and that's a strange standard and one that probably ought to be interrogated but it's also one that's not very available to you high achieving women who for every idea of reasons don't fit into that easygoing image in large part because it's not available to them and so because Hillary Clinton I think has been the main instance of what female political leadership could hypothetically look like in the United States this. Station on her inability to fit into that paradigm of having a beer with the bros has sort of filtered into our concept of what a presidential candidate ought to be and can never be if she is female. And yet here was the 1st question that u.s. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand was asked as a presidential candidate I think it will be. A logical fallacy a story for life before everything goes. Through what. I think that actually invites the candidate to speculate in kind of a meadow way about her own personality which just instantly renders a person unlikable it's a slap Oh yeah it is a trap no almost by definition candidates for public office says as a group are ambitious and self-absorbed sometimes to a pathological degree but when a woman displays these traits she's somehow is Lady Macbeth. Yeah she certainly is and if she's not that's in some ways even more suspicious because it means that she's successfully masking it I think Clinton kind of had it coming from both sides she was both seen as conniving calculating secretive and manipulative but also when there was nothing that could be said about for example abusing her staff. That too could be read as well and you know she knew that she had to keep up the veneer even in private context you know that in other words there is no way for female ambition I think to be read as straightforward honest and healthy no I almost hesitate to belabor the obvious but there is also wardrobe fixation even if that's unusually blatant the phenomenon of you know what does she look like how she dressed it is always the elephant in the room I think what's very interesting about this moment it gives me a lot of hope is that the midterm elections have produced this unprecedented abundance of women in the house expanding our visual sense of what female leaders are can look like and what the intersection between vanity image and political effectiveness can be. Nonetheless you still believe the culture is rigged against women you've said that even popularity can redound against perceptions of seriousness you talk about fandom and the double edged sword that that represents we have so little practice relating to female political leaders that it sometimes slips over into the language of fandom which I think is dangerous fandom is functionally I think diminishing to someone's perceived political seriousness I will say that a cause has been threading that needle in ways I find completely fascinating she is young enough to have grown up being entirely fluent in the language of self-conscious self presentation that older candidates sometimes falter add she's managed to articulate a vision of female political leadership that is actually fun she might be the female candidate that people do you want to have a beer with she's made that thinkable there was an episode where someone dug up their college You Tube video that they did dance going to rooftop it was treated in the right wing media as scandalous she certainly flipped that tour advantage because people thought it was charming. There was a much more toxic example of using a woman's past against her and that came with heris for those of you who aren't familiar with our friend Kamel let me give you just a little bit of background she entered the California political scene in the early ninety's she was fresh out of law school and working at the Amidah County district attorney's office then enters her bull Willie Brown he was once the speaker of the California State Assembly and mayor of San Francisco over the weekend the former San Fran mayor admitted to having an extramarital affair with young comma pulling her out of security in elevating her political career I think that it's just so clear that everyone who basically makes it up the ladder in politics has been helped in deeply inappropriate ways that I'm not sure that gendered smear is really taking root which I was interested to observe I don't know if you agree with that but that was my sense you know I think maybe there is reason for hope but in the meantime Can we just look at the Amy club charts situation evidently she is a terrible boss there's a lot of testimony the fact borate employees throws things managers by humiliation and so forth. I am tough I push people that is true but my point is that I have high expectations for myself I have high expectations for the people that work for me and I am high expectations for this country no temperament is and always has been fair game to evaluate candidates is this out of proportion to the way men or who fly off the handle. I think that there is a real danger in calling any criticism of a female candidate sexist not just because that's unfair and inappropriate that because you also need that candidate by making her seem fragile. To the extent that labor matters and that the rights of labor matter and that Democrats and those on the left prioritize human dignity in the workplace those are pretty disqualifying treats you know I think those are entirely fair criticisms. I think too that playing into a pretty available stereotype of women as duplicity. Could be Chos reputation was as being very Minnesota nice I mean and you know in the cabin I hearing certainly she was a figure of apparent equanimity so it's distressing right to find confirmation of something that I think is very easily attributed to other women but if it's real it's real you know I don't think there's anything to be gained by pretending that those things aren't true we've been talking about journalistic tropes and you know one that certainly characterizes every race is horse race coverage to ignore policy to ignore the actual institutions of government and just focus on electability but even that seems to work to the disadvantage of female candidates no white I think horse race coverage does is promote a tendency where and the pundit ventriloquism is the worst aspects of American nature so sexist racist etc and then taking all of that for granted speculates on the chances of the voter overcoming all of those biases in order to elect a particular person so that is always going to make female candidates minority candidates seem weaker and less electable for the simple reason that we have not historically elected people like that so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy I think where that has become the dominant mode of American reporting electability is the only relevant consideration so just produces a circle where there are to be discussion of policy and what American people actually need this conversation is for breaking news consumers and book which is our ongoing checklist of things for the media literate to keep their eyes open Ford understand that the media doing the reporting are doing them justice. But you know it may be actually a dubious premise because. It presumes that if journalists were just doing a little bit better that we would be better able to be making sound informed decisions but in this case it really isn't just flawed coverage these are prejudices and double standards that afflict the entire culture. I wonder if the last checklist item on the consumer say a book should be. Physician heal thyself you are responsible for what you bring to the table as well we believe ourselves to be rational consumers and rational actors and I think we all like to think that we're fair minded and weigh the evidence and make decisions accordingly if cognitive science has shown us anything it's that we are quite blind in fact to our own decision making process isn't very good at rationalizing our decisions after the fact but often we're reconstructing a line of reasoning that isn't actually what led us to that conclusion and that is hard to confront and it is largely a function of bias of implicit bias but it's also the fact that 1st impressions have just been shown to enormously shape someone's idea of a person or a political issue new facts don't actually cause us to refute those beliefs very often it's not just our tribal it's not just that partisanship is at an all time high it's that this is kind of like a flaw in the human brain that you know that they need to collaborate on like link up with members of our tribe leads us to frequently overlook evidence that might in a truly rational system persuade us of the opposite case so correcting for that is just and I'm going challenge and I think requires among other things realizing the ways that we gravitate towards news coverage that confirms what we want to hear and specifically I think or strace coverage that encourages us to think that our side will win well I thank you very much my pleasure thanks for chatting with me Bob little a little moral here is a staff writer at Slate You can view our breaking news consumers handbook gender and politics addition at on the media more. 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Tribal loyalties fame we increasingly see how. This is and we're finally peering through clearers lens to consider information that was always there but that we chose to ignore 1st. The young intern who allegedly seduced a president and threatened the presidency. Monica Lewinsky. And if anybody really goes an apology. Today David Letterman's joke is not funny and Bill Maher is high dudgeon is even more pure raw and self-serving than usual in part because the woman herself once a 22 year old in turn entranced by the leader of the free world took time to grow up and speak on her own behalf Here's part of her 2015 Ted talk to years before the meet to movement took off in. 1998 after having been swept out into an improbable romance I was then swept out into the eye of the political legal and media maelstrom like we had never seen before she spoke about how digital media turned an inevitable barrage into an epic global bombardment I was patient 0 of losing a personal reputation on a global scale almost instantaneously recently her story was revisited in depth in the celebrated podcast slow scared as she was about Friday afternoon he was willing to get wired up 'd and sent off to spy on the president that is where if she comes through I mean as as I can't imagine anybody else would she know with the passage of time her tormentors to have been made to reflect now I started to feel bad because myself and other people like this made relentless jokes about this she was a kid she was 21. I feel bad about my role in helping push the humiliation to the point of suffering how do we journalists comedians the general public and yes the supposedly enlightened liberals and feminists of the day gotten Lewinsky wrong and then of course there was a need to Hill who in 1991 accused then nominated Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment Hill might not have been universally condemned but she was repeatedly humiliated take the November 1991 People magazine cover featuring Virginia and Clarence Thomas in an embrace with the headline how we survived survived that is the allegations from the sex crazed your love struck clerk are you a scorned woman the complex. But you know. It looks bad then it looks a lot worse now that case 2 received a documentary revision and a docu dramatic one on h.b.o. Also before the Trump election and the subsequent need to movement and in February we added one more woman and one more story to the list of the brief is that it and revise this. Love Story. Girl. With girl. Girl. Girl cuts off boy's penis for the reign of Bob it the aggrieved men Nasa's for Ginia wife who in 1993 cut off her husband's penis as men held their collective growlings Lerena instantly became a national know a global joke it was December 22nd 2016 I was scrolling through Facebook and I saw a headline Huffington Post headline it said Lorena Bobbitt is done being your punchline Joshua Rafay is the filmmaker behind Lorain or a 4 part documentary series available now on Amazon Prime he airily remembers when the story blew up I was 11 years old when writing but I grew up with this piece of ill informed perverse common knowledge that some crazed middle aged white woman cut her husband's penis off in the middle of the night and threw it out the car window when the reality is she had come here at 8 in age 18 from Venezuela in search of the American dream and she thought she found it when she met this handsome charming Marine named John Wayne John Wayne bought it the story was called the Battle of the bop it's which traded seem roughly as if they were to equals this goes to show the weight that was given to what she did to him as opposed to what he had done to her over and over again. Serially abusing and raping her for years her one act was given the same weight as his 4 years worth of x. And I was thinking that if you were to render the story in cartoon form the main character was just really a severed part of one Bobbitt the story followed how it was the taxed where it was thrown how it was found whether it still worked to really uncommon injury I've never done one never seen one will he ever ever have a normal sex life and I'm optimistic that over again virtually all of his normal function it was about a penis and it was all anybody cared about which reminds me that at this point in time respectable publications and news outlets didn't use the word penis in the beginning of episode 11 of the police officers talks about having to get onto the radio and try to convey to the other officers what the situation was they were all speaking in vague terms about a missing appendage and some of the police officers thought that it is a finger is a toe What are we looking for sketch in the media landscape cable t.v. Was blooming and prominent among the proliferating channels was court t.v. This story in many ways was the original quick bait it had the ultimate headline once that headline about a severed penis grabbed everybody's attention. There was this moral misstep which was keep the headlines on the penis the media is absolutely complicit in the misrepresentation of this story this is a story not about a cut off you know if this is a story about a woman who was beaten she was strangled she was raped she was sodomized and went on for years from your footage she didn't seem like the attitudes towards Lorraine were universally condemning there was an interesting exchange between Hugh Downs and Barbara Walters on their popular show I do think that many women see this salary difference like to. Be a related I think the most awful way a man could imagine. That he would miss it is a woman is just such a degree that she struck out at the area that was doing for the last time it was still be very sensitive to the need to cut down on abuse of women and see this as different from the act of many women who are abused and make sure that if you're a man you met and you all are. That Way To me one of the most interesting things in terms of the archival footage that we found was the sort of man and woman on the street interviews that shows like Jenny Jones or even the nightly news would do and there were a number of women who. Did not think that even if she was raped that there was any excuse that could be it is so he would have sex with anyone else I'd think that was the real reason why he did it some of them just flat out didn't believe her that said there are also many women who did don't know what it's like to do that you would. Yes yes if I was raped of course they're supposed to get that it's a matter many women in the media at the time they were trying to write the stories that would've propped Lorraine up more as what she was but the editors were men you see the cover of Time magazine from during the reign of trial and it's a pig in a business suit and the headline is Are men really that bad and that is in response to this woman who was on the stand having a panic attack telling you of the way she was beaten raped and sodomized a 1993 op ed in the l.a. Times by Robin ob Cari and argued that to make Lorraine a bob it into a symbol for anything other than a sick marriage between 2 immaturity angry people is to compromise the legitimacy that has finally been conferred on battered women who strike back in self-defense battered women syndrome as it was starting to become known was a new phenomenon and so. You know I think part of this is about class and race if Lorraine a had been a white rich woman from an affluent area I don't think that she would have been categorized as that piece in the l.a. Times categorized her in January 1994 Nancy Kerrigan was assaulted in Detroit and the media had a new tabloid story to focus on the saga of Tonya Harding and because of the short attention spans some important moments in the Babbitt story were missed how John beat his next 2 partners and this John forcibly. Took me on to the balcony. And. Pushed me over the edge of the balcony I was holding on to me by my lower legs dangling me over the balcony threatening to drop me would a longer gaze on the story of lead to a different assessment is impossible to say I think but we were not out to unearth anything it was all there 25 years ago in plain sight just a fresh perspective and having their facts can text realized as they should have been in the 1st place where it was all it would take so many strange details that I didn't know the pictures that were available of her abuse John Wayne Bob It's bald faced lying in the face of. Indisputable evidence the rush to judging from people from whom I would have expected much better than this given what was available it was like a collective blindness. For the series you talk to journalists and activists and nurses and doctors and lawyers who were present for the original story you talk to Lorraine you talk to John you don't talk to Howard Stern I tried to yeah listen we want to talk to Howard Stern we want to talk to Charlie Rose we want to talk him out Lauer we want to talk to her older Rivera she felt her husband was selfish because he had an orgasm and she didn't so she grabbed a handful and sliced it I mean this was one angry woman Howard Stern aside those other guys were exposed for predatory behavior and so I'm actually glad obviously that they were exposed but had they never been exposed and we interviewed them all they would have given us their forward facing you know a line of b.s. Looking at the series and seeing them just in there being the ones who are reporting the news to us speaks far more than anything they would have said to us that would have been disingenuous and were Howard Stern though did go some distance and turning decidedly and Bob it into a star so during the reign of trial again while it is so clear that she has been abused by him it's even been corroborated by a piece of paper that he had signed admitting to abusing her not to mention all the neighbors who sought for many many people John Wayne called in to the Howard Stern Show. I don't even buy this whole thing that he was raping her and stuff. But she you know she's not that great looking. To lot of penpals your ex-wife. I thought so he just didn't look that good. I think she's a little vitamin Bobbitt Oh Ok. I would ask him what he was thinking back then had he not heard and seen everything that was clearly available and I would ask him what he has to say today does he feel any sort of remorse for speaking about somebody who was a victim of such horrors in such a despicable way the series ends on a pretty bleak note if the rain a story today. Fox News would take the place of Howard Stern and the 24 hour news cycle or would focus on what she did rather than what why do you assume that we the media and we the public wouldn't process these events differently now I think that we still see a great rush to judgment. I think that we can see somebodies life. Sort of torn apart by a tweet that runs wild for a couple of hours I think that even though we are finally talking about all of these issues there are so many victims of domestic violence and sexual violence that continue to suffer that far outweighs Unfortunately any progress that we've made and so people can read into the ending you know however they like but I think that it should be a challenge to us all to make sure we do better and to try and bring empathy forward as the thing we used to appraise the situation the ending of the of the series is the phone number for the National Domestic Violence Hotline that was something that was important to us or something as important Lorena that is the way the writer has gotten the last word we are making it very clear that that's what this is about this is for the victims thank you so much my pleasure Joshua Rolfe a directed Lorraine available on Amazon Prime. 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This is on the media I'm Bob Garfield and I'm Brooke lads down before the break we heard the conversation I had with Joshua Rafay the director of the documentary series Lorraine I spoke with Flo right now who goes now by Lorraine a Gallo about how she's worked to take control of her own story and redirect the media attention onto a national epidemic at 1st he was very difficult but since I've been an advocate against domestic violence listening to the stories of survivors the victims who are trying to leave but they're not there yet that give me strength that give me more courage to tell my story to do this documentary basically my story I share with a lot of people within my community because to the shelters and I volunteer and as an advocate I know I have a voice and my goal is to reach out to the the. Damn and a survivor Stu because you know survivors go through a post-traumatic stress disorders as well it really ignite fire in me and telling in retell my story because there is hope and there is help after you were acquitted of malicious wounding you didn't want to go to the hospital as the law required but in the end you were glad you did yes I was confused I didn't know where they were taking me when I you know I heard that I was acquitted by a temporary insanity I want to go home they felt that John should have been there you know he was an abuser and he needed to be treated but it did help you I don't know I've helped me so much because they were questioning me I just finished incredibly you know emotionally and it in traumatic interval which was the trial 2 trials actually his trial in my trial my own and then I was questioning again and again and again and it seems like it didn't stop but in terms of being quiet and taking care of my own self it was the start of the healing process yeah so as we follow your path you see people who you relied on his friends taking advantage of you you realize that your parents weren't really in a position to help and became another responsibility when they came to America the pressures didn't see so obviously after you left the hospital was there a moment where you just said enough this is my life and I will choose to tell it when I choose and how I choose from the moment I felt that I wasn't alone I failed its security in going to. Shelters and sharing the stories. So the more I talk the more I wanted the whole world to actually know what happened and I start telling the story but it wasn't enough my whole story when you 1st came out 25 years ago it reach out so wrongly I feel like the media failed me the justice system failed me I felt the Us society fail me and I know that if I'm going to tell my story again and.