Clinton was telling bankers something very different from what she was telling voters. Well ask john podesta, Clintons Campaign chairman, about the stark contradictions between what she was saying in public and private. Its a Fox News Sunday exclusive. And well ask our sunday panel after the leak of that recording, will the gop dump trump . Plus, a conversation with bill orielly about the election and media the prevailing wsdom in washington, as you know, and in new york city is that we journalists know better than everybody. All right now on Fox News Sunday. And hello again from fox news in washington. We begin with the latest on Hurricane Matthew. The deadly storm is now a posttropical cyclone with sustained winds of 75 Miles Per Hour. The storms track shows it over eastern north carolina, heading into the atlantic. Foot of rain on the coastal carolinas. More than a Million People have been left without power. The storm is blamed for at least ten deaths in the u. S. Well have much more on matthew later in the hour. Now to latest political storms with both campaigns in full damage control. Donald trumps lewd talk about women is sending shock waves through the republican party. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton is dealing with the revelation of what she told bankers in those bigmoney speeches. And were just hoursfr second president ial debate tonight in st. Louis. In a moment, well speak with john podesta, Clintons Campaign chairman. First, live from trump tower, former new york city mayor Rudy Giuliani, a top another visors adviser to the campaign. Lets start with the tape of trump talking to access hollywoods billy bush in 2005. He brags about hitting on a married woman and then says magnet. I dont even and when youre a star, they let you do it. Do whatever you want. Grab them by the [ bleep ]. Do anything. Mayor giuliani, we had booked Kellyanne Conway, the campaign manager, but late last night the campaign pulled her and said youll be our guest. Were always happy to have you. I got to ask you, was Kellyanne Conway unwilling to defend trumps remarks about women . Well, i dont think anyone is going to defend his remarks. Is kellyanne still a very strong supporter of donald trump and does she believe hed make a better president than Hillary Clinton . Absolutely, yes. I think had is a question of scheduling and not being willing to explain. Im not here to defend his comments. If he were here, he wouldnt be defending his comments. His comments were wrong. They were very wrong, i think what youre looking at is a man whos gone through 14 months of running for president , understands the weight on his shoulder of all of these people who voted for him, who believe in him, who believe hes really has a movement to try to change this country. They have outsiders taking it back from the insiders, who have been ruining it for quite some time. I think the point that we make and we believe if you get to the issues, hes the candidate that is much better suited to run the country than Hillary Clinton, who has her own set of flaws. Were going to get to those in a moment, but i want to stay on i know you are. On donald trump. Around midnight on friday, trump put out a statement apologizing for his comments. Heres a clip of that. Ive said and done things i regret, and the words released today on this more than a decadeold video are one of words dont reflect who i am. I said it, i was wrong, and i apologize. Trump says the words dont reflect who i am, but mayor, theres a long history of trump making aggressive moves on women. Hes been sued for sexual harassment, and there are decades of insults of women. Dont these words reflect exactly who he is . No, they i know donald trump for almost 30 years. Doesnt reflect the man that i know. Ive had many conversations with him. I may have had a conversation like that with him. I know a man whos been a wonderful father, whos brought up remarkable children, including two wonderful daughters and three granddaughters. Hes always dealt, in my time with him, hes always dealt with women with great respect. Hes been a gentleman. During that period of time or things that he said wrong that he wishes he didnt . Im sure there are. The reality is he also has gone through something that is transformational in a persons life, a president ial campaign. Hes gone through 14 months of being out there, hearing what people are worried about and afraid of. Afraid of losing their jobs, having lost their jobs, jobs being moved from ohio to mexico or from michigan to mexico or fro people who were worried theyre going to be completely out of work like the coal miners that Hillary Clinton says are all going to be fired and be gone. So these things weigh on you as a person. I went through it. They make you a lot more serious and literally make you into a different kind of person. I think september 11 and running for president made me into a different person. Sir, i dont mean to interrupt. I want to the get to a couple other issues. I know you want to talk about the hacked emails. One more question about trump, storm of criticism inside the gop against trump, and some people are now calling for him to drop out. Lets put up some of the reaction. Dozens of gop leaders have abandoned him. House Speaker Paul Ryan said, i am sickened by what i heard today. Senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, these comments are repugnant and unacceptable in any circumstance. Congressman jason chaffetz, im out, im pulling my now, i know you say, well, thats the elite or the establishment. There are a lot of people who were Trump Supporters who have had enough. I guess my question is, if the gop, if leaders were to come to donald trump this week and say, for the good of the party, to save the gop majorities in the house and in the senate, youve got to step down. What will he do . Donald trump is running for president. He was selected many of those in fact, i think they all are. Their opinion is given a great deal of weight and consideration. But he was selected by millions and millions of republicans who still very much believe in him, who i think are more willing to forgive, maybe, than some others, and more willing to realize that this is a different man today than the man that was reflected in those comments. This is a man who has a very heavy weight on his shoulders of having to determine the future of the supreme court, having to deal with the ri last year was the largest number of murders, increase in the last 40, 41 years. So thats what i would say. I would say he would listen to them, but i believe hes going to remain in the race. In fact, i know he is. Finally, lets turn to the hacked emails of john podesta, which indicate that Hillary Clinton was saying something very different from what she said on the campaign trail when she was talking in those big money, closed door speeches to wall street bankers. And open borders across the western hemisphere. She says the people on wall street know best how to regulate wall street, and she says she is far removed from the struggles of the middle class because of the fortunes that my husband and i now enjoy. Your reaction . Well and she also pointed out, i think, in one of them that shes a different person to them than she is she has to be different politically. So we which says we have a person whos a liar. Chris, thats what she is. Over and over again. I can go through her 302s and Martha Stewart was prosecuted for one lie, i could have prosecuted her for ten. Like she didnt know that c meant confidential. Come on, hillary. You can put that one over on somebody but not me. So weve got two candidates that have flaws. Now, lets get to the issues. Who are going to be better on horrible things about that is had those come out, Bernie Sanders would be the candidate now that wed be running against, not her. She fought so hard to keep those secret. We now know why. Because if she had run the way she ran on those tapes, for all those bankers she got paid millions of dollars for saying that stuff. She got paid for it. She would not be the candidate. Mayor giuliani, were going to have to cut it short. We thank you. Thanks for your time today, sir. Hillary clinton goes into tonights debate hauling her own baggage. Hacked emails now reveal what clinton was telling wall street bankers and big money speeches behind closed doors. Transcripts she refused to make public. Joining me now only on Fox News Sunday, Clinton Campaign chairman john podesta. John, i promise well get to the trump tape in a moment. First, we need to talk about these hacked emails from your private account. Voters in New Hampshire last february. Anybody who knows me who thinks that they can influence me, name anything theyve influenced me on. Just name one thing. Im out here every day saying im going to shut them down, im going after them, im going to jail them if they should be jailed, im going to break them up. But heres what clinton told bankers about regulation at one of those Goldman Sachs speeches. How do you get to the golden key . How do we figure out what works and the people that know the indust b the people who work in the industry. So john, whats her real view . Crack down on big money or kiss up to them . Well, chris, i think we should take a step back and say how we got here, which is that the russians, as senior members of the u. S. Government have confirmed, have been hacking into democratic accounts, and now theyve hacked into my account. Theyve put out documents purported to be from my account, but i think if you look at what get to your question, i would just say this should be of concern to everyone that the russians are trying to influence our election. But ill answer your question directly, which is as she said all throughout this campaign, shell crack down on wall street. She said it, too, theres nothing she hasnt said in private that she doesnt say in public. Shes put forward the most aggressive wall street plan of any candidate, really. She stands behind dodd frank. Donald trump wants to rip it away. She wont let wall street but john, what are we to make of the fact she says in private that the people who know the industry best in terms of regulation are the people who work on wall street . Thats hardly thats hardly a revelation. I mean, i think people on wall street know how to game the system. What she wants to do is crack down on the system, make sure that theres no institution so i think shes put forward very comprehensive ideas about that, how to reduce the size of big banks, and thats why Bernie Sanders yesterday after looking at those transcripts said that he stands behind her. What they worked together to produce on the democratic platform. Thats what shell do as president of the United States. Theres nothing exceptional in there. Well, the question its like what donald trump says. Hes the one to handle the tax system because he knows how to game it. Let me ask you about another during the campaign, clinton has taken a tough line on both trade and on immigration. But heres what she said in a big money speech to a brazilian bank. My dream is a hemispheric Common Market with open trade and open borders. Just think of what doubling the trade between the United States and latin america would mean for everybody in this room. John, open trade, open borders . Look, you could pluck a few out of context. I think, again, shes put forward and has been for and has constantly championed and voted for comprehensive Immigration Reform that modernizes our border security. When she was secretary of state, she talked about creating a hemispheric effort to Bring Clean Energy across the continent from the tip of south clean and renewable energy, to invest in the transmission that would clean up our energy system. You know, i think that shes constantly talked about that. She had an initiative when she was secretary of state to do that. So you got to look at the context of some of these remarks. When you look at what she said about immigration, shes for comprehensive Immigration Reform that takes people out of the unity, but also has modernizes our border security. But john so you cant take a word here and a word there this gets to the heart of peoples concerns about Hillary Clinton. I want to take an excerpt from another one of her speeches. She said, you need both a public and a private position. The question is, when you see the speeches and then you see what shes saying on the campaign, and sometimes theyre diametrically opposed, whats her real position . Theyre not diametrically opposed. She talked about income inequality she said we need to close the carried interest loophole. She said to them that even as early as 2008 that what they were doing with credit default swaps and the Housing Market was going to wreck the economy, which it did. Shes been tough with them when she was a senator from new york. Thats when shes done. Theyre not diametrically opposed. Again, you can pull a few words on this campaign trail is shell be tough on wall street. Thats exactly what shell do. All right. We have a little bit of time remaining. Your reaction to the trump tape . Well, my reaction is its disgusting. I think people saw in real life what weve been saying for our long time, what hillary said as far back as june, that hes unfit to be president of the United States. You see republicans leaving him in droves. There are now 46 Senior Republicans who said that he should either withdraw or they wont vote for him just since friday. So i think hell have some explaining himself to do tonight. But you know, this isnt an exception. Hes said the same horrible things about latinos, about africanamericans, about muslims. Hes made fun of a reporter with disabilities. You know, this is who this guy is. And i think that the American People just heard and saw for detail which, you know, i hope every voter actually takes the time to see what is really on that tape. I hope all of their children dont get to see whats on that tape. John podesta. John, thank you. Thanks for joining us today. Of course, well all be watching what happens in tonights debate. Up next, well bring in our sunday group to discuss the explosive reaction to trumps crude remarks, with some Top Republicans now calling on him to drop out of the race. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel of the trump tape . Go to facebook or i moved on her, actually. She was down in palm beach. I moved on her and i failed. Ill admit. Lets be honest. Were living in the real world. This is nothing more than a distraction from the important issues were facing today. Donald trump apologizing and trying to turn the page after that leaked tape showed him in a crude conversation about women. Its time now for our sunday group. Gop strategist karl rove, fox news political analyst juan williams, New York Times columnist, maureen dowd, author of the year of voting dangerously, and jason riley of the wall street journal. Karl, let me start with you. The rules of the republican party. Trump says hes not dropping impossible. Maybe youll tell me im wrong. I know the house gop is going to have a Conference Call tomorrow morning to discuss all of this. How seriously is the idea of trying to find some way either by force or persuasion to get donald trump to drop out . Well, first of all, there are two steps to this. They cant force him out, but they could declare him somehowr the Republican National committee cant replace him then they could replace him. But lets be realistic. The second problem is the states. Were already voting in more than a dozen states. Accepting absentee ballots in several more. There are ballots prepared in virtually every state. Its going to be impossible, virtually impossible, to replace donald trump if he were to decide to resign on most state ballots. Is this being talked about seriously . You have dozens of gop leaders, the senate, talking about him, that he should step down. I wrote about this in may when we were contemplating the problem for Hillary Clinton being indicted after the democratic convention. Let me just tell you, im not a lawyer, but after talking to a lot of lawyers, its virtually impossible to replace somebody in august, let alone in october. If he were to decide to do it, it would take a week or so to get the National Committee together to arrive at this. Were talking about literally two or three weeks before the election. At that point, virtually every state is sending out absentee ballots or having early voting or both. Maureen, im sitting reading my New York Times on saturday morning. Lead story, the f bomb, explicit descriptions of womens anatomy. These are quotes from donald trump. The front page also says all the news thats fit to print. One, what has happened to the gray lady, as the times as called, and is this all just a promotion for your new book . Lasting legacy, aside from throwing the republican party, will be changing the New York Times in these profound ways where for the first time weve changed our policy and we call politicians liars and president ial candidates liars, which we never did. I was always having to look up synonyms when i was writing about dick cheney. Now weve changed the policy again to be use these kind of smutty words. So th a contribution to the legacy of the times and our culture. We asked you for questions for the panel. We got a bunch. Sharply divided opinions about the trump tape. Michelle sent this on facebook. All men say things to each other they wouldnt want anyone else to hear. Get on with the real problems of the country. But melinda writes, i have been a supporter of trump, but i think unfortunately in light of these comments, he should step down. The gop needs to nominate pence for president. The supreme court. Jason, look, lets be honest. Trumps crude comments about women are nothing new. I guess the question i have is, why is this Tipping Point . Why is this the point at which a lot of people, particularly republican officials, are saying, thats it . I think partly this is selfpreservation. I think theres a lot of pessimism about trumps chances in november. You see Party Officials saying, weve got to count on spl to the senate, maybe distancing ourselves from trump will help us do that. I think theres also just a bit of exhaustion that has set in here, in trying to defend all the things hes said over the years. Some of us stopped or never did it in the first place. Others were waiting for him to turn it around, to grow up, to become more president ial. Now they said, you know what, it hasnt happened in the first 70 years of his life, i dont think its going to happen in the next 30 days, and theyre done with idea of him dropping out . Not that the replacement would necessarily be able to beat clinton, as we talked about all the ballots, but it might save the house the Republican House and the republican senate. There is thats one scenario. But another scenario and a scary one if youre one of these republican officials, is donald trump not going quietly and saying to his supporters, i told you the system was rigged. Now take it out on the gop up and down the ballot. Thats a risk. All this is playing out as should point out, almost like a movie. Almost like a maureen dowd book, hours before the second president ial debate. I guess the question, juan, is there anything you could see with Rudy Giuliani not combative, very regretful of what he had said, remorseful, and saying, but lets get to the issues. Is there anything trump can do tonight to take some of the sting out of this . I think the first thing hes got to do actually, theres envision. One, ignore it, which i think is what Rudy Giuliani was trying to say. Its a nonissue, the man apologized. Secondly, saying its being overplayed by my opponent, who are leaking this material. Maybe it was the Mainstream Press is out to get me putting this stuff out and theres more to come. And then get back to the idea hes the great disrupter, that hes here to disrupt american politics. The status quo is unacceptable, Hillary Clinton is unacceptable. The third possibility, which may bill clinton. We saw this in one of his apoll jis. I heard worse on the golf course from bill clinton. What if he goes directly at bill and say mrs. Clinton has been part of the team that disparage women involved with his husband. What happens then . How does Hillary Clinton respond . Remember, its a town hall. How did the individuals respond . I think thats a very risky strategy, given that we know not about megyn kelly and the rest. It would really, i think, be an explosion. Karl, we got about a minute left in this segment. Youve advised politicians. Youve been in this spot hours before a debate. Obviously never quite this situation. But youre sitting there. Youre the Senior Adviser to donald trump. What would you say . We saw it in Rudy Giuliani. Only sincere words of contrition will allow him to begin to salvage this issue is bigger than him, this experience of running for president has taught him the enormous responsibility that he bears as the spokesman for this movement, and try and refocus it on the big issues. Its going to have to be sincere and honest. Everyone is going to judge that. That tape at 12 00 a. M. The apology. The saturday morning apology tape, that didnt come across as sincere. That came across as combative. Contrition. Even then, its going to be hard. He had a narrow window to win. I think that narrow window is closing because its very difficult to attract swing voters. Real quickly, if he were to do option three of williams over here. Hes just as bad as i am, and hes just as bad as me. But his name isnt on the ballot. Its Hillary Clinton. Lets remember this. This is the worst dump the Clinton Campaign has to go. He needs to set up for whats coming down the road by saying, you know what, im a changed man. I changed in the last decade, but ive been particularly change by the events in the last 14 months. I get it. Youre asking me to change america. Keep america from being transformed in front of your eyes. I will do that and take it serious. All right, panel. We have to take a break. Coming up, Hillary Clinton faces her own problems. Hacked emails that show her on trade, borders, and wall street in big money speeches to bankers than what shes telling voters. Darien why have the latest smartphone if you cant use it wherever you go . Switch to u. S. Cellular for our best plan yet 7 gigs of data per line for only 49. To share more photos at your cabin or video chat at your secret fishing spot. All for just 49. The best part . We put towers in places the other guys dont. Because u. S. Cellular thinks you deserve a signal that works wherever you are. Switch to u. S. Cellular and get a whopping 7 gigs of data per line beep, camera shutter click did you just see that . That was awesome. We have to try it. Okay. Okay, mines not working. Maybe you have to bump it. Oh, yeah. Do the bump it thing. Right. Okay, yeah. muffled you can take money out using the bmo harris app you want to buy a hairless cat . He street. Cool. I think she said bmo harris app. Yeah, that makes more sense. When your phone is your debit card. Trump was taking from america with both hands and leaving the rest of us with the bill. Her only method of making money is by selling government favors and granting access to special interests. Those are the kind of issues we thought trump and clinton would be talking about in tonights debate before the explosive leaks of his tape wall street. Were back now with the panel. Well, maureen, we finally got to see what Hillary Clinton was hiding in the transcripts of those big money, closeddoor speeches to wall street. Talking about open borders, open trade, that the people who know best how to regulate wall street are the people who work on wall street. How damaging to clinton with just four weeks to go in this campaign . I think it would have been lethal during the now not so much because, you know, in many ways, she is the gop candidate. Shes the one who cuddles up to hedge funds, and shes the shill of wall street. So its only what we already knew. But what about the argument that this speaks to, you know, whether you like the policy or dont like the policy, that shes not honest and shes not trustworthy . Well, wow. So Hillary Clinton will do and say anything to win. Thats not a surprise. As usual, donald trump drags all of the stage and blows it up so that no one can Pay Attention to anything bad about hillary. A good reference to the road runner cartoon, for those who may have missed it. Jason, there was also a passage in one of her big money speeches in which clinton invokes lincoln fighting for the 13th amendment to abolish slavery and saying, you need both a public and private position. This goes to the core, as i was talking to maureen, people dont trust about this woman. It does. She talks out of both sides of her mouth, depending on the audience in front of her. But again, in the primary, i think maureen is right. In the primary, this would have been much more damaging. It may still do some damage to those millennial voters who she lost because they dont trust the establishment candidates because they talk out of both sides of their mouth, but again, i think now that weve moved to the general election, and republican moderates who cant stomach donald trump, listening to her talk about trade, immigration, denouncing edward snowden, i think that might work to her advantage, actually. What strikes me, really, is still what she charges for these speeches more than what she said. The way that the clintons have traded on their Public Service to enrich themselves, more than 20 million for these speeches over a couple years. That still boggles the mind. Juan, your thoughts about Hillary Clintons speeches, what hacked emails. I dont think it changes anybodys view. I think im just reiterating what weve heard from jason and maureen here. I think people hearing this say shes the one who said tpp, the current trade deal, is the Gold Standard before she changed. But she changed in the middle of the primary campaign and to that extent has adjusted to the Bernie Sanders followers and to the Democratic Party base in terms of being more restrictive in terms of trade deals. This, we knew that donald trump said lewd things about women, and yet somehow this tape seems to be a game changer. We knew that Hillary Clinton played double games on a lot of these issues, but somehow you dont seem to think that these transcripts are a game changer. Why not . I dont think it has the same impact. In the case of trump, youre right, he had a long history of saying offensive things about women, blacks, disabled. I think in this case, what youre seeing at this moment in the campaign is a specific group of undecided voters thats going to decide this thing. I think in large part, its suburban white women who lean to the right. Where are those women at this moment . I dont think theyre going to be impacted by what came out from the clinton tapes or whatever, but they are impacted when they hear Donald Trumps language because its highly offensive. I mean, look, i grew up playing sports. Ive been in a lot of locker rooms. I hear men say i would like that ive never heard anybody Say Something as graphic and hostile as what came out in that tape. Which another reason why making the debate referendum on the clinton major could backfire. How is this going to help him with that demographic . Any way that trump can make these hacked emails and the question of her honesty and trustworthiness if not as big as the tape, a memorable issue . He cant. His is about sex. So cant trump that. But another thing is this is obscuring a second set of scandals that are worth bringing up. Came out this past week that two of her aides were given immunity in the investigation of her email server, and laptops were destroyed as part of that immunity agreement after the government took a look at them. And now cheryl mills has an participated personally or substantially in the issue at question. So she was representing Hillary Clinton at the same time she was a subject of the fbi investigation. This all gets obscured. Hes got to if hes going to salvage anything, even his own dignity, it needs to be an honest, sincere contrition and pivot to the big issues. Im not even certain wikileak tapes are important. I want to take this to the 30,000foot view, maureen. Will this campaign and i suppose at this point its a rhetorical question will it ever be about issues, or is it just right through election day about these two outsized personalities . No, chris, its not. Were not going to have a serious conversation . Inevitable end of this, which is the mad german king locked in his castle on fifth avenue. Wow. I disagree. I think at the end of the day, voters will make up their minds on the basis of do they think shes reasonable change, or is he change and shes status quo. That group thats sitting there, they knew all these bad things about him and all these bad things about her. I think at some point, theyre going to say, im going to set these things aside for a moment and make a critical decision me in the end. But untrustworthy and paranoid beats unstable and piggish. Could be. I think a lot of people and i think were going to see this tonight at the debate, chris. People are interested in what are you going to do for me. How do you help me . In a sense, the audience is going to be asking less about scandal and more about, well, what is it that in your policy would allow me to prosper and my children to get a good education in america. I think because of that, and because of her experience in big advantage in showing empathy and understanding. Trump is still on his heels, in boxes terms, still against the ropes. Jason, the one advantage trump has, people want change. They think were on the wrong track. They do want change, but 30 days before an election, were still talking about the republican nominees fitness for office. Not about the changes he would bring to the job in term of policy. In ten seconds, can he change the conversation tonight . Its going to be very difficult for him to do think, tonight. All right. Thank you, panel. See you next sunday. Well all watch the debate tonight. Up next, bill oreilly on tonights debate. Media bias and how long hell keep doing the factor. Youre here to buy a used car, truck, suv. Thats smart. Truecar can help. Its great for finding a new car, but you already knew that. Its also great for finding the perfect used car. Youll see what a fair price is, and you can connect with a truecar certified dealer. So, no matter what youre looking for. It is. This is how buying a used car should be. This is truecar. A look outside the beltway at Washington University in st. President ial debate. Earlier this week, before the friday bombshells, i sat down with my colleague bill oreilly, author of the new book killing the rising sun. As youll see, we talked about all sorts of things. Bill, welcome to Fox News Sunday. Thank you. Nice to be here. The second president ial debate tonight, what does trump need to do, what does clinton need to do . Well, trump has got to be you know, he should have those two words, feisty but not mean. The folks are going to be surrounding him. Its different than the other debate. You have that town hall thing. Real people. Yeah, so its a different kind of dynamic than when youre talking to a camera than when youre talking to a human being. Hes got to show some charm and some personality, but hes got to be tough. And clinton . You know, shell be the same that she always is. You dont see a lot from Hillary Clinton. Shes got her rap down. Shell come across as the concerned person who will fix your life. Thats what she does. You have known trump for 30 years. When you see him in the debate, when you read about him tweeting in the middle of the night, does he know enough to be president , does he have the right temperament to be president . You know, does he know enough . That is a purely subjective point of view because i dont who you surround yourself with, how much studying youre willing to do, how Much Research youre willing to do. Temperament, hes an impulsive man, trump. He reacts emotionally. So when youre president , its different than when youre campaigning because you would feel he would be wall off a little bit in the white house. You know how that goes. Youre not alone with anybody. Theyll take his machines away from him in the middle of the night. Secret service is always there. On the campaign, hes been a too emotional. I want to talk to you about media bias, which i know is a subject that you are interested in. Rudy giuliani went on the sunday shows this last week, and he was asked about trump attacking the clintons marriage. Take a look. Are you the right person to level this charge . Yeah, im the right person to level this charge. Your past, you have your own infidelities. Im a roman catholic. I confess those things to my priest. The accusations are about Hillary Clinton taking money from countries the accusation was Hillary Clinton was cheat can go on bill. It was an unhinged and wild accusation. I can understand why you cant defend it because its indefensible. You thought he should apologize. Whats going on here . I dont like the personal stuff. I think todd sandbagg giuliani, the mayor, because he knew he was going to ask him that question. Thats not right. The prevailing wisdom in washington, as you know, and in new york city, is that we journalists know better than everybody. We know better than everybody. All right. Were smarter than the president , the senators, the mayors, particularly a barbarian like trump. Thats really the fangs are really out because they dont think, they being journalists, hes not worthy. So thats what youre seeing. Thats absolute bias. Speaking of bias, you and your show is getting hammered right now for jesse waters and the piece he did on chinatown. Am i supposed to bow to say hello . I like these watches. Are they hot . Now, you know this piece is quote, racist. Do you want me to give you the accurate report . Well, do you think it was over the line . Do you regret it . I would have edited it a little bit differently than it was edited. No, it wasnt over the line. We ran that piece on monday of last week. 5 Million People plus saw it live. You know how many negative letters we got . Less than ten. You know how many phone calls came in to fox news . Zero, as far as i know. Outrage appeared. And where did it appear . Far left websites, far left. I read every single one. Theyre all the same. So this is an attack on fox news. Thats what it is. Its happened before. I thought it was a gentle piece. There were a few things in there i felt were over the line. The little old lady, i would have taken that out. I should have seen it before, but im so busy with the election i didnt. Waters is a gentle satirist. Were proud of him. This is an organized campaign. This is what they do. Theyve done it before. All right. Lets turn to this. Yes. Your latest best seller, killing the rising sun. I have a confession to make. I had never read any of the killing books. Youre fired. You have to get out of the building. Until this one. I got to tell you, im being honest and serious here, i i learned a lot. I was thoroughly sbrer trained. I read somewhere you said history is fascinating, but history books are too often boring. 900 pages. This is anything but boring. Now you have to go back and read the others. I want to. You have to read the other five. What we have crafted is a franchise for people who want to know about history, but they dont have time to read 900 pages. We give you 300 actionpacked pages. I love it. Its in present tense. A lot of details ive never a brilliant researcher. We put you on the ground when that atom bomb drops. We put you on iwo jima. You explore the controversy, which has lasted ever since hiroshima, about whether it was right to drop the atom bomb. You come down firmly on the side it was absolutely the right decision. Yeah, and for selfish reasons. I wouldnt be here. My father wait, wait, wait. Always do, because lets put this picture up on the screen. This is the surprise that comes out in the book, that this guy, an unnamed in the middle of the pacific during world war ii named william j. Oreilly. Thats right. So i have an emotional attachment. But i decided to write the book because of reverend wright, because of president obamas preacher, when he said god damn america, the chickens are coming home to roost for nagasaki and thats wrong. Let me and some day im going to clarify the record. Heres some day, right here, killing the rising sun. We asked the five living president s if they would have done what truman did. We have the actual letters. I asked them to write to me personally. President obama wouldnt write to me. I dont believe he would have dropped the bomb. President clinton didnt answer because his wife is running for president. He didnt want a controversy. Said they would have. We show you why, their reasons why. Finally, you have been talking recently about the possibility actually, you say the real chance that you might leave the factor, because you say youre tired of working this hard. I work hard. Well, okay. Let me just say and were roughly the same age. Weve both been in the same business roughly the same time. Youre not going anywhere. You look so much older than me. You are not going anywhere. Why do you even pretend that . Heres the deal. Right now in my life, i have accomplished everything that i have ever wanted to accomplish. In my whole life. Its a miracle. It is a miracle im is thing here across from the legendary chris wallace. I have no more things to accomplish. I understand, but look at my father. You do it and get up the next day and do it again. But i have to evaluate how much, all right, of the acrimony i want to absorb. Im the target. Every single day of my life. I have to have bodyguards. I have to have security. Do i really want to do this . Now, i think that the factor is still a very worthy enterprise, and we help a lot of people. We employ a lot of people. My decisions are very, very difficult. They will be taken very but im not in it like andy rooney until im 90. Im not. So well see what happens. Chances youll be working on the factor five years from now . I could be fired. My ratings could go down. Chances youll be doing it five years from now . I cant handicap it. A lot of it has to do with your health too. Wallace and i are old guys. We could wake up tomorrow wheezing. If we do, we have to get out. Bill oreilly, everyone. Thank you for reading the book, wallace. Its about time. The name of the book, killing the riing sun. Bill, great to have you here. Congratulations on the book. Up next, the latest on the damage from Hurricane Matthew. A look at the latest radar as a weakened matthew, now a posttropical cyclone, turns off the coast of the carolinas. Matthew brought record flooding Million People along the eastern seaboard are without power. At least 14 deaths are now blamed on matthew in the u. S. And hundreds more in haiti. We heard a lot this week about the damage different categories of hurricanes can do based on their wind speed. As we told you last year, theres a place outside washington that studies this kind of thing. Heres our power player of the week. In the 21st century, why do we cant you do this all on computer models . Short answer is no. Dr. Joule barlow is director of the wind tunnel of the university of maryland. Since 1949, theyve tested how everything from plane models to cars to roofing perform in high winds. And that will tell you how efficient or inefficient it is. Or whether itll survive in the case of a hurricane. The week we were there, they for one hour to 100mileperhour winds. What you can find out is whether that particular product will survive in any given wind speed. Barlow took us inside the wind tunnel, starting with a giant fan. Theres a 2,000horsepower electric motor here that drives this guy. Its about 20 feet in diameter. We can generate wind up to 230 Miles Per Hour in the test section. We wanted to get a feel for a wind test. Student Isaac Roberts participate. Give us 50 miles an hour. Tropical storm conditions. And he can handle that pretty easily. Yeah. But it got tougher at 80 Miles Per Hour, a category 1 hurricane. At 80 Miles Per Hour, nobody can stand straight up like this without the tethers. Wow. I have to say, hes bolder than most people weve seen in here. Then they cranked up the fan even higher. This will be 115 Miles Per Hour, category 3. Were talking about a serious hurricane at this point. This is a serious hurricane. Barlow has been director of the tunnel since 1977, but he reminded me wind experiments are still more precise than any computer model. The discovery, new understand air flow is still very fascinating to me. Maybe were slow learners, but were still learning. And thats the challenge of it. And thats the challenge. At its peak, Hurricane Matthew was a category 4 with winds of up to 145 Miles Per Hour. 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