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It was probably the worst thing, if you look at the middle east now, all started because of that iraq. Nothing. We spent 2 trillion. We have thousands and thousands of lives killed. Just thousands carnage. And we have wounded warriors, who i love all over the place, right, and we have nothing and iran is now taking over iraq. Theyve been trying to for many, many decades and now theyre finally taking over iraq. As we sit here theyre taking over iraq. We get nothing. Let me give you one more counter to what is perceived as republican orthodox and that is the issue of israeli and the palestinians. You said wednesday you wanted to be neutral in that dispute. Explain what neutral means because some heard that in the proisraeli community and thinks, oh, hes going to be antiisrael. Explain what you mean by neutral. No. Im very proisrael. In fact, i was the head of the israeli day parade a number of years ago, i did a commercial for netanyahu when he was getted elected asked me to do a commercial for him, i did a commercial for him. I am. But i dont want to be look, the hardest thing to do is that in terms of deal, if youre a deal person, right, the ultimate deal is that deal. Israel, palestine, if youre going to make it, that probably is the hardest deal there is to make. People are born with hatred, theyre taught hatred. And i have to say its mostly on the one side, not on the other side, but theyre taught hatred. I say this, if im going to be position because i will try the best i can. And im a very good dealmaker. Believe me. To try and solve that puzzle. Youre not going to solve it if youre going to be on one side or another. Everyone understands that. If im going to solve the problem, i want to go in with a clean slate otherwise youre never going to get the cooperation of the other side. So thats all im saying. Donald trump, im going to leave it there. Again, congratulations on your big win. Stay safe on the trail. Well be watching on tuesday. Thank you. Thank you very much. You got it. All right. Im joined now by the man who came in second last night, senator marco rubio of florida. Senator rubio, welcome back to meet the press, sir. Thank you. Thanks for having me on. You got it. Okay. Sorry about that. Let me start with how you feel about this win this second place finish last night. You had every major endorsement that you could have had and yet you still finished a distant second in South Carolina. How do you look at this as a because 65 of the people voted yesterday and about 70 of republicans around the country have said we want someone other than donald trump to be our nominee. The problem is that vote was still divided even last night among five other people or four other people. I think now the race is narrowing even more. And as it narrows and continues to narrow, were going to continue to gain. So it was a very unusual year. You usually dont have five campaigns operating fulltime in a state this late into the process. Three states in. But i feel great that now that the choices have become less and less, more and more that new voter alternative to donald trump vote is going to coalesce around us and we have to make the work to make that happen, but we feel good about that. The issue i think all republicans have had going up against donald trump whether its been jeb bush, ted cruz, youve done it a little bit as well, you say hes not a real republican on this issue. Im sure you heard my interview with him. On issues, and yet hes still winning. How do you ever winover his voters . Yeah. Well a couple things happen, number one hell Say Something over the top and you guys in the press will decide lets not cover anything and focus on the outrage of statement. Hes been very good at dominating that. And in an 11 person or 15 person field it crowded a lot of people out. Thats going to become harder to do. The second point i would make is people are really angry at washington and they have a right to be. Thats why i ran in 2010 by the way. And its because i didnt want my next u. S. Senator to be someone who was going to go up and do the same stuff people have been doing. Our argument is its okay to angry and upset at washington, but anger alone is not enough. You deserve a nominee who tells you exactly heres what were going to do and outlines that. So you know what youre getting. So theres some level of accountability here. So my campaign is about this. We are very realistic about our challenges right now in this country. But were also optimistic about the future, but only if we do a few things. And im going to tell you exactly what those things are. And thats a big difference in Trumps Campaign and mine. I think thats going to begin to matter a lot more now because there are less people in the race and more time to Pay Attention to some of that. Look, throughout the week it was clear a lot of campaigns thought you had momentum, a lot of campaigns were going after you. Heres one attack ad that cruz put up on immigration. I want to play a snipit of it and get a reaction from you on the other side. We know we have to deal with the 11 Million People that are here illegally. We have to deal with the 11 million individuals who are here illegally. The bill that senator rubio put forward i think is a great place to start. They still have to qualify for it. Passing a background check. Passed a background check. Pay a penalty. Pay a fine. Paying taxes. Start paying taxes. It wont be a quick process. That is a long path. Process. But i do think its fair. So, senator, i know you couldnt see the ad as we played it, im sure youve heard it and seen reference, what part of that ad is not true . It doesnt matter. Didnt care about it. This is now an attack going on in state after state and people have processed and understand its a serious issue that needs to be solved. Number two, i could put the exact same ad on about ted cruz. Ted cruz said he wanted to find a compromise, ted cruz said he wanted to bring 11 Million People out of the shadows. Ted cruz said that he wanted Immigration Reform to pass. Heres the bottom line, i tried to solve a very difficult issue. And we tried to produce the best and most conservative bill possible in a senate controlled by harry reid at the time. And then send it over to the house and have them, conservatives, make it even better. It didnt work out because the house never took it up. And so now its very clear that the only way forward is going to be to do it in pieces beginning by securing our border. Thats what well do. When im president , the senate bills not going to be what were operating off of. Its going to begin by focusing on securing our border first and foremost. And until you do that, youre not going to be able to do anything else. All right. I got to talk process. You woke up in tennessee this morning. That tells me thats a little obviously you think you can win on super tuesday. Where else do you win on super tuesday . Now its about winning. You havent won yet. You got to win somewhere. It is. Well, i think first of all as we understand all these states award delegates differently. So we have a different strategy for each of these states depending how they award delegates. When we get into the winner take all states, in march, big chunks of delegates, thats where you need to win states and i feel very good about where were going to be by then. Im not going to reveal to you our Campaign Play book but were going to be in a lot of different places, im in tennessee, be in arkansas, nevada, were going to contest and work very hard for those caucuses on tuesday and keep moving forward in a bunch of other places. We have a national campaign. And i feel great about it especially after last night. All right. Senator marco rubio, im going to leave it there. Stay safe on the trail. Its going to be a big, quick race overq,d next 23 days. Yes, sir. Thank you. Now to the democratic race for Hillary Clinton in nevada yesterday. And a big blow for my next guest, senator Bernie Sanders. Welcome back to meet the press, senator. Good to be with you. Let me start with something you said on friday. You said on friday it could be 10, 20, 30 years from now people will look back at what happened in nevada and say this was the beginning of the Political Revolution. Obviously the results didnt turn out the way you thought. What happened, sir . Well, what happened is over the last five weeks, chuck, we came from 25 points down to five points down. As i understand it we actually won the latino vote yesterday, which is a big breakthrough for us. But the voter turnout was not as high as i had wanted. And what ive said over and over again, we will do well when young people, when working class people come out. We do not do well when the voter turnout is not large. We did not do as good a job as i had wanted to bring out a large turnout. You know at the last minute there were reports that harry reid and the Culinary Union were in places where Hillary Clinton was going to do well including right there on the strip in las vegas. Do you think that made a difference . Its hard to say. What i do know is, chuck, our message of a rigged economy in which people in nevada and around the country are working longer hours for low wages, why almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1 , ill tell you something else, this issue of a corrupt Campaign Finance system where big money interest in wall street trying to buy elections, those are the issues that are resonating. Again, i wish we had had a larger voter turnout. By the way, we did phenomenally well with young people. I think we did well with working class people. Remember, we were taking on a candidate who ran in 2008. She knew nevada a lot better than we did. She had the names of a lot of her supporters. So im proud of the campaign that we ran. Obviously i wish we could have done a little bit better. But at the end of the day i think she gets 19 delegates, we we move on to the next state. It was interesting listening to her victory speech last night. I want to play a clip of it because i may sound familiar to you. Here it is. Wall street can never be allowed to threaten main street again. No bank can be too big to fail, no executive too powerful to jail. Its pretty clear she has ratcheted up her rhetoric on wall street because of your candidacy. Do you see that as a victory of sorts . That youve got her trying chuck, chuck compare your message. Were looking into copyright issues here. Those are our words. Well, obviously i think what the secretary has recognize ed d is the American People are extremely angry about the power of wall street, the greed, the illegal behavior of wall street. By the way, the fact that when a kid gets picked up with marijuana, that kid gets a police record, wall street executives destroy the economy, them. The American People understand that we need real change in this country. In my view a Political Revolution which says to the people on top, you know what, you guys cant have it all. Its interesting the guy who had the biggest super pac of all time had to drop out of the race. Jeb bush outspent everybody. He arguably had more special interest supporting his candidacy. Isnt sort of the people already overturning Citizens United . Isnt your message and donald trump whove done this without super pacs, isnt this already resonating . No well, in some ways it is. But i think, you know, if you look at jeb bushs campaign its more than just money. Its the nature of the candidate and the message and all that stuff. But let me give you an example. Right now we have raised, as i understand it, chuck, more contributions from people than Hillary Clinton has. But shes now going into the super pac that she has which wealthy individuals. She will be outspending us in the next number of weeks precisely because of that super pac. Do these things matter . Yes, they do. Where are you going to win next . Youve got you cant just come close. Youre right, you came close in nevada. But to win you got to win. And super tuesday, can you win a majority of the delegates on super tuesday . You dont have to win a majority of the states, but you need to win a majority of the delegates if youre going to win this thing. Right. Well, were studying that issue very closely as to where we allocate our resources and allocate my time. Colorado. A good shot in minnesota. A good shot in massachusetts. I think we are looking pretty good in oklahoma. Last poll i saw my own state of vermont had us at 80 . So i think we got a shot to win there. And i think we will surprise people in some other states as well. Dont you have to beat her in a big state to say, you know what, i can win this nomination. I cant just come close. Dont you have to do that . No, youre right. Look, at the end of the day what youre saying is true, you need delegates. As you know these are state by state proportional delegation delegates go out. Were looking hard at michigan. We think we have a pretty good shot at parts of texas. So trust me, we are focusing very hard on trying to get as many delegates as we can. But let me also say this. We are in this race to the convention. I think we got some states coming down the pike that were going to do very, very well in. I think, you know, if you look at national polling, our support is growing. So we think, chuck, we have come a very, very long way. I think the first time i was on your show we were probably at 5 in the polls. Were moving, were making progress. All right, Bernie Sanders, i know youre in South Carolina this morning, but this race Goes National in a hurry. Stay safe on the trail, sir. Thank you. And when we come back, how will ted cruz respond to another third place finish . He joins me next. Welcome to the world 2116, you can fly across town in minutes or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. 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A culture exists within the cruz camp that would allow people to take advantage of a situation like this in a very dishonest way. Well, ive said hes been lying because if you Say Something that isnt true and you say it over and over again and you know its not true, theres no other word for it. You talk about people that lies, this is ted cruz. This is the biggest liar ive ever seen. That was going to be my second question, but im going to go there, you heard it there, three different candidates have accused you of being a liar. A third one out of three South Carolina voters thought you were running the most untruthful campaign. Has all of this hurt you . Has it stuck . Oh, listen, chuck, we saw with both donald trump and marco whenever you point to anything in their record is just to yell liar, liar, liar, and to get very personal and to make direct character attacks. And my approach from the very beginning of this Campaign Starting a year ago is that i will not respond in kind. I do not intend to insult any of the candidates. I will sing their praises. Ill sing donalds praises and marcos praises and everybody elses praises. But im going to keep the focus on substance and records. And theres a reason why they scream liar. Because when you point to their own records, their own voting records, their own words, they dont like their records because their records are inconsistent with what theyre running on. You know, donald trump threatened to file a defamation suit against me for running a tv ad that consistented ed consisted almost entirely of his own words on television. That is really a remarkable theory thats defamation to show people what he said on national tv. I think voters are smarter than that. Senator, im going to play that press conference clip to what you just said. Here it is. Donald has had a long career of using gret wealth and power trying to bully others. Whenever anyone points to their actual record, the response of both donald trump and marco rubio is to yell the word liar. Whenever anyone does as this ad does plays the actual words of donald trump on national television, his response is to yell louder. Their strategy is simply to yell liar, liar, liar. You did an entire press conference. It was some 30 minutes on wednesday. You werent talking about the issues that you normally do talk about on the trail. You werent the happy warrior that you just described yourself as being. It seemed as if you allowed yourself to essentially let trump and rubio so get under your skin that you focused on them and youve lost focus on your own message. Oh, listen, chuck, i was then and am now very much a happy warrior. Very much joyful. That press conference was simply out the actual facts. Not engaging in character attacks myself, just putting out here are the facts, here are the evidence, and i noted, for example, that both of them were relying on fabrications. For example, donald trump tweeted out to the world a quote allegedly from senator tom coburn impugning my honesty. Within hours he came out publicly and said that quote was an utter fabrication. I said its really remarkable to see two candidates, trump and rubio, making things up and putting things out for which there is no evidence and no basis. But listen, chuck, the important thing is we had an incredible evening last night. Last night what we saw happen in South Carolina, particularly when you put iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina together, two things have happened. Number one, there is now only one strong conservative in this race who can win. And we see conservatives continuing to unite behind our campaign. But number two, for anyone who doesnt believe that donald go headtohead with Hillary Clinton in november, and thats about 70 of republicans nationwide who dont think donald trump is the right guy, our campaign is the only campaign that has beaten donald trump and that can be donald trump. So what were seeing is were seeing republicans coming to us in incredible numbers to go senator, wait a minute, you finished third in a state with the highest evangelical turnout that weve seen yet. And you finished third. That sort of doesnt support what you just said, that conservatives are coming together and rallying to your cause. So, chuck, our path to victory from the beginning was always do well in the first four states and then have a strong, strong night on super tuesday coming up on march 1st. In iowa everyone in the press said we couldnt win, we won overwhelming victory in iowa. In New Hampshire everyone in the press said a conservative couldnt do well in a moderate new england state. We won a strong third there. Were effectively tied for second. A week ago donald was 20 points ahead, we closed that gap. And what we saw there there were a number of very encouraging things, for one thing, we won young people in South Carolina. Our campaign was in first place with young people. By the way, we won young people in iowa as well. And we were in second place with young people in New Hampshire. One of the things were seeing is young people who are optimistic who want a future, who want our constitutional rights, are coming to our campaign. And if you want to beat donald trump, you know, one of the clearest indications of who can beat trump is donald spends every waking moment attacking me. He doesnt attack other candidates because he e his campaign views us as the only real threat to him. And thats why were seeing so many people come around and say, listen, we want a real conservative. We dont want a washington dealmaker who will support democrats and cut deals to grow government. And give into the cronyism of corporate welfare. Quickly, are you going to beat donald trump in texas on i certainly hope so. Texas, i cant wait in a couple days to be home. Must win, i take it . It will be wonderful to sleep in my own bed. Look, we hope we do well. I believe we will do well. Weve got an amazing team in texas. I love texans and texas is clearly the crown jewel of super tuesday. We believe were going to do very, very well in texas. And were going to do very well across super tuesday. And were headed right now in just an hour were headed to nevada to go and work to earn votes there. Well, speaking of the road to super tuesday, thats what im dealing with next. Anyway, senator ted cruz, thanks for coming on. Stay safe on the trail, sir. Thanks, chuck. You too. 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Hes outspending clinton in places like oklahoma, minnesota, colorado. But can he beat her in a bigger state . Havent seen it so far. Moving down the road on march 5th could actually be a good day for both cruz and sanders. Why . Two of the states are caucus states, kansas and nebraska, which you see on the left. Heavy for the bases there. While clinton will be focusing that day on louisiana. Its a primary with a large africanamerican electorate. Shifting gears to the 8th, all eyes on michigan for the perception that with winning will be just as important as the delegates on the line, probably john kasichs land standby the way. It is an open primary which means in michigan you dont have to be registered with a party to vote in either democrat or the republican side. Good news potentially by the way for sanders and trump as well. And then just around the corner the oh big super tuesday of march, march 15 9. The closest thing well get to a preview of the november battlegrounds. 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Donald trump has been practicing in the chords of reality politics for 11 years doing Reality Television. He is clearly the frontrunner and clearly dominating, but i believe in some old rules. I believe marco rubios going to win florida, i think ted cruz will win his alamo in texas. I think a month from now we may be back here talking about an open convention because i think old rules apply. If this is a threeway race, you could see it in the exit poll in South Carolina. Let me put up some numbers. The candidate shares my values, ted cruz, the leading candidate. The candidate there to bring needed change, the leading candidate was donald trump. And the won that won in november, marco rubio. Theres your split. Trumps change, electability. The difference is that the trump number on change is so much larger than the lead that the other two have in their lanes. And thats going to be the challenge for those other two Going Forward. The other challenge for marco rubio this assumption that youre just going to get all those bush and kasich voters. You may, its true if you add up all the New Hampshire bush and kasich voters, all the South Carolina bush and cay kasich voters, give those to rubio, he wins. But he has to show he can go oneonone against donald trump and survive that. Who gets to the oneonone . Marco rubio is the one guy that hasnt felt the wrath of trump yet. Everybody else who has is either ted cruz has been damaged. Right. But marco rubio has felt the wrath of Chris Christie and prove he has a glass jaw. The question is going to be could he with stand a similar barrage from donald trump who is relentless in going after the people he thinks are a threat to him. In addition to that hugh says marco rubio will win florida, that isnt clear at this point that donald trump cant win there. I dont know its clear that ted cruz is going to win texas by the way. Its not enough to keep winning second and third. At some point ted cruz has to win one, rubio has to win. Speaking of firsts, his first win was supposed to come in your home state of nevada, mr. Thats tuesday. Donald trump is going to win nevada easily. Its a weird process in nevada. Isnt everything a weird process in nevada where they have it on times. 10 . But hugh talks about old rules. You guys are talking about this math. There are no rules anymore. The old math doesnt work. Happen. I dont know why were all afraid to say that, but right now who goes oneonone with trump is the key question. It doesnt look like from your interviews or anything else theyre not going to get out, right . As long as that exists and kasich and carson hanging around for a little while, as long as there are that many candidates trump will win every single race. Hugh, you heard donald trump with me today, he does not stick to republican orthodox. This is always supposed to have been his downfall, maybe its his strength. We have a debate on thursday night. It will be interesting to see how he handles the bush lie. That was his waterloo moment and the pope rescued him from that. I agree thats exactly what happened. So we will see on thursday night how he nuances that as he did with you. I believe hes the frontrunner for a reason. He does represent a smashup of washington, d. C. He represents a total leveling of everything that people are angry about. And he has ivanka. I must say she was there last night and she is the generational bridge that he children of reagan line, is a good line. Yeah. You know, when youre looking at this go ahead. No. I mean the only problem with the children of reagan line is it reminds you that he is the young candidate, right . So you have to be careful about using that. But look, i think you still have a problem here when youre going and youre looking not just that trump is winning, but hes winning in a broad swath of voters. Its not just like hes got this one lane he only wins when theres low turnout, only wins conservatives, only wins in these kinds of states. He wins enough across a broad array array. I saw last night late deciders he got crushed among 40 of voters who were late deciders. Early voters 60 . Not only that but donald trump is actually doing what Bernie Sanders was billed as doing. Hes bringing new voters into the process. Look at the turnout in South Carolina. Exactly. He was actually doing that. He is accomplishing getting particular mr. Ly white working their own party, at republican party, and feel in the only other who does hillary want to run against . Donald trump. You think . I dont think so anymore. He would be stronger than the democrats think. Of the three i think cruz is the one and oddly its the easier race for her in her mind. Its amazing watching your interview with trump is hes like the guy who thinks that every question is, okay, i asked you a question, now free associate. Say whatever comes into your head. Now hes sort of evolved on the Health Care Question where he read the cliff notes like we did in school when we werent quite prepared and he knows the issue of portability, someone taught him what Health Care Savings accounts are. But clearly he cant get past the rock skipping across but it doesnt matter to his base. It has not mattered. No, its been the message that matters. Im going to pause there. We got to go to the democratic side when we come back and why Hillary Clintons win yesterday might actually be seenthe future belongs to the fast. And to help you accelerate, one totally focused on whats next for your business. The True Partnership where people,technology and ideas push everyone forward. Accelerating innovation. Accelerating transformation. Accelerating next. Hewlett packard enterprise. I have asthma. One of many pieces in my life. 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Ask your doctor if 24hour breo could be a missing piece for you. See if youre eligible for welcome back. Panel is here. Now were going to talk about the democratic side of things from shakeout saturday after win. Joy, i want to start with you. Theres a new ad hillary has out here, second one now narrated by morgan freeman. Im going to play it for you and get you to react. She says their names. Trayvon martin shot to death. Sandra brand did nothing wrong. And makes their mothers fight it was only nine months ago when asked about black lives matter Hillary Clinton said all lives matter. And now look where she is today. Look at the rhetoric shes now adopting from Bernie Sanders. You cant say shes not evolving as a candidate. And boy is she trying very hard to move to where the Democratic Base is. You recalled a couple months ago she met with a lot of the mothers in chicago. She has the endorsement of some of the moms. Bernie sanders i think has one or two of the family members too. Im a little uncomfortable with using the families of these dead children in this way. Both of them have. Both sanders and Hillary Clinton are now trying to invoke the memories and use the family members of these young people in their campaign. Do you think its too crass . It makes me uncomfortable. I do have to say Hillary Clinton understands fundamentally that her candidacy is in the hands of africanamericans. Full stop. In nevada it was a 72 rout with africanamericans that carried her over the top. South carolina, she will be saved by africanamericans over age 50. Africanamericans but africanamericans of a certain age, right, over 50. She needs. Look at the next 12 states on the nkt its Something Like 7 of the 12 have an africanamerican electorate percentage of 30 or more. Right. I mean, this is joys right, this is she is exactly right. May come across as crass but thats what shes doing. In the generational divide youre exactly right doesnt hurt as much because, yes, she doesnt do as well with Younger Voters voters. But she doesnt need to. In nevada she lost over 25yearolds by a tremendous margin, she picked up over 45yearolds who make up a bigger part of the electorate and they will in South Carolina as well. Harry reid the most valuable player is harry reid going to be known as the person who saved Hillary Clintons nomination . I think he will be. And having come back to the state he saw what was happening in the state. He saw the internal polls. Clinton was hemorrhaging. She went from a 25 point lead it was neck and neck. Harry reid said i got to do something. He called up the head of the Culinary Union. They were being wall flowers said you got to get these folks out to vote, heavily latino they knew they would go for clinton. He did that with other unions too by the way, chuck. Not just with the Culinary Union. But what joy is talking about the africanamerican vote is forgotten because we talk so much about the latino vote. Its about half of the nonwhite vote. Not just hispanic. The fact she got threequarters of that vote. She had every african elected official except maybe one or two in her corner campaigning for her. But harry reid is the guy. Hugh, now that it looks like Hillary Clinton is back to being the favorite for the nomination and suddenly it is Hillary Clinton standing there as the boogie person for the republican party, does that change republican voter calculus or no . It does. Changing your calculus, but the former secretary of state is the nominee. And theres going to be a longterm effort of republicans whether its donald trump, marco rubio or ted cruz to paint her into the corner. They had another release of data on friday. Theres one more coming. She is a tremendously flawed candidate. She loses all the trust questions to sanders. That has been a fact. Her now sitting there as the threat where no longer its like, oh, my god, maybe sanders will win. Does that change the way voters think in the republican primary . I think it does. I think voters are very sophisticate and had strategic, they know she can be beaten. Theyll look at donald trump, marco rubio, ted cruz, maybe john kasich, who can beat her, whats the best match up. I think thats whats going to work on super tuesday. Well see. Its what the republican establishment hope the voters think. They havent been right yet. When we come back in less than a minute, our end game segment and the end of the game for the bush dynasty. Coming up, meet the press end game brought make sure you re keeping up with your kids online accounts and the social media talk with them about appropriate online behavior. Being proactive and involved is the best way to protect your kids from predators and bullies. Meet the press end game is brought to you by boeing, building the future one century at a time. Its being treated as an afterthought now, but guys, jeb bush dropped out of the race last night. South carolina put george h. W. Bush into the white house, butt george w. Bush in the white house and sent jeb bush back to miami. Let me show you these money totals. Jeb bush, you hate to say this hes the new john connolly, biggest spender in iowa, one delegate delegate, biggest spender in New Hampshire, got three delegates and the biggest spender in South Carolina. The establishments downfall so far than this does it, hugh . No, its because hes such a good man and the roles have changed so dramatically. The rules are completely different. Theyre not the jeb bush rules of the 90s. They are the Reality Television rules of this decade and he was not suited for it. Governor. This is arguably his record as governor is more conservative than any current republican more so than kasich. How did he get painted the moderate . Well, i think because jeb bush theory of the case is he would be painted as the grownup. His theory would be that the party would go to somebody perhaps sarah palin, perhaps another gaffe like candidate and the party would come to him. Number one, that lane is so fragmented between establishment candidates. And by the way having lived fl ed d in florida, jeb bush has never been that great of a politician. He benefitted from a lot of good luck. Ni torched his own campaign in 94. Weak opponent in 98. Benefitted from the clinton boom its funny how history gets rewritten. Shes right. Thats now how the history of jeb bush is going to be rewritten. It could have been a different version of the same events. But it was very clear long before donald trump got in this race when you would talk to republicans the number one concern they had about jeb bush is whether he was too rusty for this and whether he was going to be Strong Enough to stand up to Hillary Clinton. The bush folks thought money would help paper that over, remind people of his conservative record, but when he went on the debate stage and totally flubed it and came on the shows and couldnt answer questions about iraq and he looked like he was unsteady, it absolutely solidified the concerns they had had all along about his skills. Strong. This is the election about strength. Donald trump looks strong to republican voters. Jeb bush anyone whos been around him hes a substantive guy, he was a conservative well. Right . He was the wrong guy at the wrong time for this election. They want donald trump whos going to say what they want to hear. Jeb bush, they dont want to and hear the way he talks. That money number i put up, all those money things, hugh, doesnt that support what jon said earlier is there are no rules . Of the top three . Donald trump. I will say one thing has changed dramatically which is the Supreme Court vacancy and it will reshape the vase on my side because id rather lose an court. So i think Going Forward this is the narrative changer. And i dont know how the candidates respond to this. If you lose the election, you lose the court. I know. Its worth i hear you. I got to leave it there. What an amazing all primaries need to be saturday. Well be back next sunday at primary saturday and if its its monday, february 22nd. Coming up on early today, breaking overnight. Camille cosby forced to testify. The lastminute bid to stop todays deposition related to sexualassault allegations against husband bill cosby. Super tuesday a week away, the shrinking field pass the candidates spinning as they shore up support and money. 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