The I thought I heard you disparage the use of doctor by a Ph d. He was a good judge of the book yeah I did never like I will and I will say I will take the heat for it right this one is from a real doctor m.d. Yeah we go Jack Steve as a physician and an avid listener of your show I've often wondered if there was not a medical explanation for your unique personalities. I was the whited to find the answer the other day in door one's medical dictionary 14th edition. I have to figure out how to pronounce his Vin he says vets. W i t z e l s u c h t v tools looked definition a mental condition characteristic of frontal lobe lesions and marked by the making of poor jokes and puns and how many of what was a story in which the patient themself is intensely amused. Eureka I thought to myself the diagnosis cannot be undone you both suffer from a particularly viral and swarm of vittles. I don't there's any effective treatment but I thought that your families might there I have some solace in knowing precisely what you're looking she wants we perhaps there as they have useful soup support group out there you are joining if you're lucky you might even be able to worm your way into work related disability pension won't I love those worthless. I did do each about how on that right away. Good work good work Jack doctor Jack. Janowicz some soup that you've got I often wondered what you had maybe. You want to talk to us our number is 8 car talk that's 182-278-2558 lawyer on Car Talk This is Nancy Clinton Hi Nancy no last name right. That's the Kalamazoo. Michigan Kalamazoo you know I gotta go. Kalamazoo Zumanity. Anyway Nancy what's up well I have a problem that's both automotive and mother daughter mother daughter boy you know in my opinion the mother daughter relationship is one of the most complex relationships in the entire world. You know the daughter I guess must be 17 years old actually she's 27 and you still haven't figured it out. Well let's hear all the gory details Ok got it all right well she has this effect and he waited 2 years before he decided that she should a take it in for any warranty work and be have tires rotated Yeah after she had her tires rotated her car giggled rattled 5 braided you can like your teeth we're going to fall out yeah. And so I think just that the perhaps she had waited too long and to have her tires rotated during those 2 years that she drives like 3040000 miles well like 25025 Yeah Ok Well I think what happened is with the radial tires yes all days it was recommended that when you rotate radial tires you always leave them on the same side of the car so that they are rotating in the same direction Ok so you would take the one from the right front to put it in the right rear in the left front put it in the left rear put it on the yeah we got I think I think Allen just figured out all right Ok However they don't recommend that anymore now they recommend that you rotate them the old fashioned way take the one from the right front put it on the left take off the left reporter on the right rear right rail left front all they are in the glove box again spare in the glove box but they add more Nish us that we should if we do rotate them that way we must do it every 7000 miles Ok there abouts but if you don't do what you are in danger of having tread separation which. What I believe she has Ok so she needs to buy some new tires Ok but on the larger issue yeah yeah yeah Yes Should it be any of your business that's my question exactly what are you doing interfering with the rotation of the of tires on your daughter's came towards appearing in this area knows what else you're doing. Quite your grand Well I mean what about her boyfriends. Tell us about them tell us about that only those of you got rid of. Suffice it to say she does that live in Kalamazoo with me she was in Minneapolis Well of course and she's But she will just keep moving further and further away you get the post card. Right. Now if I hear you correctly then your suggestion is that I keep my my nose it was declining in the car you have to just cut the cord you have to realize that it's time to let her make her mistakes whatever they may be and you may be surprised that they aren't as bad as you think they're going to be a maybe there are going to be any mistakes but that's no less no less is more typing how you didn't buy the car for her or anything like that no actually her grandmother did. Vonn out. I want to take your advice say anything more about the car I'll just let her wish list to listen to the show let us. Know recognizes her. Ok maybe. Later Thanks Sarah and have a good day right now on the other hand what was the last time your mother told you what to do every day. My mother called me up I would say on average I would say every day you know but on average. 3 times a week those are the days that she doesn't call me up tells me to stop smoking cigars she tells me to make sure I wear a t. Shirt in the winter otherwise I'll get a terrible offer adult. Tells me never to listen to my brother. She tells me all I did all the same things. To sting when she told seal. She's a witch she just I'm going to change my number. 18 Car Talk all 182-278-2558 lot you're on carpet should be calling is here. Hello oh I didn't hear it out from Chicago hermits yet how some Chicago urban house guy I've got a problem I have a 79 I have you know Uganda likes to catch a fire on the left hand side of the van. Oh yeah. Did you buy this vehicle No No No No 7 I bought it from my step dad but he's good about cars I knew I had a gasoline leak but it had been leaking gas about 2 years on the right hand side never had any problems Well the 1st time it burned somebody told me down the street some of your cars ready convert. It to over and they could not find it long as they had it no problem they ran heard no problem yeah problem so it caught fire again maybe when your father bought this Kanu did he get the excitement package not somebody who has that you know because people have accused w vehicles of being boring but then what I loved like it was 79 that they introduced the exciting package as a matter of fact I don't know what it is what happens is the scenario driving along somebody behind you yes tell us the 1st time I see the flames shooting out of the well well you can see it down low by the wheel at that point we thought it was some debris from the manifold pipes a come back and they. Replaced some of the try to patch it with the you'll feel like ductwork you know around the manifold and hold. Back to the muffler system so we pulled some junk out maybe for weather we thought that was great but the next time it was really on top of the engine did you attend the Mickey Mouse School of Technology. I really. Have put to you that your I went with a gas can only be no problem if I want to fix the gas can't put it back here and I've got fire in Oh well I think what's probably causing the fire is not gasoline but oil. I think motor oil is leaking onto the onto the hot exhaust and that's catching fire the motor oil has is more likely to catch fire than gasoline strangely and hard to believe isn't it hard to believe the gasoline just have exploded the whole you don't know it would evaporate gasoline doesn't stay around when gasoline hits a hot object like a manifold it doesn't stay around long enough to reach what's called the ignition point in the ignition point for gasoline and all will both around $700.00 something degrees but the gasoline evaporates real fast that oil stays there it boils and bubbles and gets hotter and hotter and hotter and hotter and hotter Ok Ok I think you're going to find it's an oily causing the pump I mean I guess I would take it to the mechanic somehow if you can get it there and he's going to just let it run and see what's going on in that side and tell not to go to lunch while the. 5 figures are in because I made it through it was very good. Thank you. Good luck Ok one car that's 188-822-7825 extension 5 hollow your own car talk oh oh hello. Oh no. A. Donkey don't use string is call for I told you never let's go through again. For those of you that don't recognize the voice it's a voice of our dolling mother Elizabeth. I want you to live a little longer live what I don't know give me aggravation. All right I can I can tell you that I got my teeth should on the day see my brother's got his yeah yeah what I want to be wearing are Ok I got to think that we're not smoking any See guys they won't let us smoke in the studio we haven't smoked a cigar for 2 years now I don't know what was the 3rd thing you know my little girl and I just. Yeah I know oh yeah she has our kids destroying our cigars you know you don't have to take care of us anymore or you mean I don't have to take care of you look here at Dulce now we're adults we can handle it now we're responsible citizens and I'll consider. You know what's wrong with that and then to sure. That you're right about the undershooting. Given me they should well I hope we don't meet you we love you dearly you know you'd kill me if you love me love you wouldn't smoke those thank you see that right forget about the cigars we had a call that you probably didn't hear from one woman who was the problem was her relationship with her daughter. And I said that I thought the mother daughter relationship was one of the most complex relationships in the world and I have only a vague recollection of your relationship with my deah sister oh we get along well you do not well you can't you know I don't remember how much on your true or close out in the street you call it getting along fine. My sister there would always and wonderful person my sister but she had this habit she wasn't she was a slob and she would put on an outfit and say No I don't feel like wearing this she would take cover off and take the clothes which my mother had spent hours washing and ironing and she would throw them under her bed and take out a new outfit when she was in college so she would take before every morning shift or try on 2 or 3 outfits my mother one day as dusting and she looks under the bed and finds all her entire wardrobe which she had spent hours washing and drawing and ironing and that's if I remember what I saw so not all at the stalls and then they were all crumpled up under the bed well mom had what we should call a nervy nutty Oh. She went nuts screamed and yelled at my sister took all the clothes Christmassy I wasn't home with the sorrow opened the window and threw them out onto the street oh and I'm low on back on we didn't have any longer. So I repeat I was there you call that getting along so you wash in that manner and be am Ok while I'm out laundry on the air and even if the truth must be no we're broke believe isn't telling the truth all true Emily secrets you know you would tell me told everyone about your drinking problem and your concentration and everything else I mean after all. Don't bother dad for a while when you. 6 in the window here he is all right well go bald and well my ass if you like those other guys we got some of your guesses you're no more so than almost Yes No absolutely not they're all going to hear from me until I die I don't run all I want to get rid of those cigarette kale ready. To record. Get Taken to the. Street these call some other place. And if you see his he would only get I don't know if we got our call right with the guys already. Why not you another kind oh yeah we know you're. Disguise your voice because you're not getting through it any longer I'm putting voice recognition on my phone. I think good boy Ok we will Ok a life. That I. But my bike and I want to buy a box of guys. Put a box of. Own emotional drugs I don't like I don't want to. See what it does to me. Oh she calls me in the face. And I just sink deeper and deeper in my chair by the time she's had her way with me I'm done for you know she will lot give up you talk about perseverance like a pebble in your shell. All right I think it's time for a oh I know I know it take a little break Wow you're actually getting the hang of this timing thing and it's been like 25 years you know a lot really I mean I saw a produce Duggie make that sign you know that spiral motion with his hand that means wrap it up right now not when he does it next to his head like that that means your brother is really whacked out so they know I can't be right I seen him do that every week Yeah Ok. We'll be right back with more of your balls in just a minute so don't go anywhere I will go back. Cruising. Below the tank to go one. But. Looking around. The AC we'll find. The window. On my car the beaters I don't hold the power. On my car beaters at the time by. The way the simple kind of mean nothing much to see but at least with my old beater. Or. Support for crowd talk on n.p.r. Comes from sales of our new no fault insurance policies you crush your car hey we pay and it's not our fault from n.p.r. N.p.r. Member stations and the Herbert Simon family foundation supporting n.p.r. 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Leigh Burnett and Stokes Dale North Carolina Dia tolerate I have a problem that perplexes Man I hope you all can help me my wife Theresa is an avid listener of your show she refuses to miss even an hour of Car Talk and rearranges her weekend to hear it she is a lovely and intelligent but as you can tell an easily entertained while. I've always been proud of the fact that my wife's language skills are quite above average however and this is where the problem is revealed the minute you know show comes on the trash to comes out of her mouth after she would make a sailor blush I don't even want to think what it would do to her mother here's just a sampling of some of her expletives those boneheads what in the blank are those Luckily heads talking about what kind of a moron would take that advice one of them blank and blank does he know about haircuts and creamer it. And then a couple of things which is mean something nasty in Polish. You can see why I'm worried truth truces language drops to a sub intelligible level but she returns are also to her all self after a few hours of recovery really she loves you both and gone for big Someone should slander you besides yourself please advise me on what to do. Oh jeez I worried husband in Stoke steel. Yes I mean if you have a street address. But I'm Ok. Number. No I don't think I think yeah this is what I call that kind of a. Farce Ah course right yeah sure she needs to do this it's like having nightmares about your wife pushing you off the cliff in the wheelchair you have those Ok. So you're 5 votes last night how do you know 2nd. And your way to play the bitchy way the Insurance Institute over. I think she needs to do this whole dinner sanity because actually we may be still doing her a great service because it may well be that these off thoughts and feelings that she would otherwise vent on her poor husband Teresa. Yeah that's why we will continue giving correct answers and advices and or allow people to as well as we can prevail exactly we are saving the world we have dedicated. Humanitarians that we. All right to do it time to start a church. That everything could be tax deductible. All right signficantly everything's talked about oh you'll pay do you know. You know if you file the last 5 or 6 years what's that. File didn't they also do you for your toenails No I just got that would throw them 2. Ok well that's the end of it do you listen to a whole hour. It just seemed like a half hour. By the way do you know what's coming up the 3rd half of Today show I can see the excitement in your face I think that it's not all b.s. Are coming up on the 3rd half of the show my brother my very own brother and co-host is going to personally kick off the brand new puzzler season that. I know it's like a football season except that because the only one who gets knocked around is you I feel and you know it's just when. Well stay tuned for the new puzzle and if you have a question about your car you can call us at 88 card talk that's 888-227-8255 only one character arc Well hello oh I thought she was the family. Middle child and I thought it might be good to speak this is where you were before we let this before we let this maniac to new this is none other than our darling sister yeah the evil that you are still a curable evil sister Cruella who was responsible for making our mother so so mean . But go ahead no wait a minute I didn't know I was there the day you were there the day she threw your clothes in the street right well I wasn't there but I when I came home I noticed that my room was clean. My room other than. It was it seemed had what thrown my clothes out the window Yeah so I thought well this is nice My room is clean so I never even went down to pick them up Sure what do you care I didn't have to buy the clothes you didn't have to wash them you know after I had them and starched them go sure that I wasn't great I was oblivious but I have been turned into a wonderful person. June I'm not a wonder that now. You didn't know that when was your epiphany and when did you stop being the slaughter was it once again tied you know when I discovered that I had piles you should 1st know I had piles of this than piles of that piles of everything yeah but this wasn't until just about 4 or 5 years ago really but you know what the truth really is I had more fun when I was a saw you were more fun then yeah I heard you had a sip I was really going to join your family gathering. Monkey so I will turn over a new leaf let Yeah I've become what I once was your mother claims now to have a wonderful relationship with you you care to comment on that say could well I mean you would you like to verify that statement you believe well it's true only because once she saw me shake out a rug and my whole life she would say yuck cousin up the is look at her she's shaking out the rug why don't you shake out there was a loser and I was like did was go around singing all the time. All the time but one day she saw me maybe 15 years ago shaking out a rug and everything turned around like magic you never can know what is going to make your parents proud of you that is true that very strange Yeah it's interesting but now it's all turned around and I'm a new boring poor person yes we want to go back to being a slob a lot more fun then I will turn over a new Wii flip and I will just throw all the papers around and all the music around and all right I can't wait I work on that as you been we don't want to we don't want to tell you delicately you're gonna still and we've chosen this private moment . I think you need for too long for me for too long that's it I am now going to be my real self is a song. They're not working. I'm sure I see a little. Oh yeah I'm really nice yes I am going up my. 108. That's 188-822-7825 I will a lawyer a guard dog yes I know my name is Michael I'm calling from Bloomington Indiana I'm Michael beautiful downtown moving to then you know I know my brother is going to ask you with but I'll jump ahead where you from originally I'm originally from Germany you know we knew that when I ask such a simple question you could have been from Austria no you couldn't know what that accent was ill Brazil maybe yeah yeah So Michael what's up well I have sort of a philosophical question good I was wondering whether you can push start a car with an automatic transmission you know like you can push off a car with a manual transmission you know you will need it like that we Michael we need your help Ok you know if you heard this this word before maybe you can translate it for us the. Wife. Said Well you know Stalin forum I'm spelling what the English spelling of the German spelling w i t z e l s u c h t is my was my pronunciation of it some souped up me beats me are you a doctor. Well that's why you know that's a medical term I want to put in but it was your main words are all made up of shorter German word yes do these pieces of this with this word mean anything what the soup to mean for example if you wanted to search to search and the 1st was again w i t z e l like 7. I don't know no meat 7 you have to go into the at the mall a g. Of this for a chance we get frozen with almost a German for 3 years off. Yesterday you've been no help on that my case on this is a philosophical question can you push start a car that has an automatic transmission and the answer is absolutely yes however you can I have one hell of a bumper on the back. I have seen it happen to me the other day that might not have broken down and somebody gave me a push with his car you know nothing happened well things happened but I didn't know what I was supposed to do that I'm not yeah oh you can do it but it doesn't work this is going to go no it's important if you're going to push start most automatics cannot be pushed are good. Some can be pushed out if you get the thing going fast enough it's most important get a good running start. Going to the pushing asked of back really back up quite a bit see the trouble is when you have a manual transmission you pop the clutch right as you put it in gear and what makes it start is that being in gear the wheels now turn the engine right instead of the engine turning the wheels right more and you have an automatic transmission that can't happen because the linkage between the engine and the transmission is not a firm whole solid piece of stuff but it's fluid and so in order for it to work the cars going to be going really really fast like how fast like 50 miles an hour oh that's pretty yeah pretty scary. You know for your article you offer but let's say we're on an empty you know and it isn't a country road or at the top the bone Everest you know in the car doesn't start you just drop and I couldn't say authoritatively if it's possible with every transmission there was some transmissions years ago that used to have a a re a pump in which it was possible Ok very very easily possible most transmissions don't these days but but it's possible to start a lot of them if you get the speed up high enough but I wouldn't recommend it and I mean what's your support in just in dry for a reverse. That's a good well doesn't matter Ok it probably doesn't matter all or that would matter but I would go in the lowest gear I had a fight I had the choice Ok that was it yes and you don't know what. I mean some. Oh no I know I'll see somebody with a kid all the time who has to want to kick somebody else to things like hitting a job or a job yes well we have we have a letter from a doctor who claims that it is a mental condition characteristic of frontal lobe lesions and marked by the making of poor jokes and puns and pointless stories felt good to me. Michael it's a pleasure to talk to you and don't try to jump start the car because I don't try to push to jump start is Ok but don't try to push stop it Ok I. Know I wrote it as well as I will. 18 Car Talk all 182-278-2558 lot you're on Car Talk This is Erin living in the desert coming all the way from Boston so good to hear but you're living in the desert which doesn't do you live in I live in the desert of Phoenix Arizona when I witness protection program or something I actually moved out here to be a nanny for my nephews so it's a temporary fix I'll be back to being Town hopefully shortly we hired Tommy to be an idiot for his nothing. Is working out fine. Oh you could couldn't be better. So it's not so I have a $2100.00 civic it's a 4 door love a little car. Driving in the middle of the desert and I smell something burning couldn't figure out what it was until I realized that my rear window wasn't moving where we're real Windows don't usually move but I tell you you couldn't raise the lower the window it was high it was stuck halfway I have my windows down it was a beautiful morning all I got the electric motor was burning up yeah really my problem is now and I love my family but I'm not getting paid very well now I really can't afford to get the motor sex right now and I'm looking for a temporary fix just to get the window up which one is that the one right behind you on the one of the other side it's the driver side passenger the driver's side real with real window yeah for you can't see out of it anywhere you put this cardboard and no no thank you dear old nephew will beg to differ with you because that's his master See note while you can have all know that the simplest thing is there is to close the window Yeah Ok you can try a couple of different things you may have blown the fuse but if you didn't you can open the door. If you grasp the window on either side of the would you put one palm on one side of the window the inside in the another Tom on the outside you can sometimes with the help of the motor which maybe didn't burn out yet you can Ok engage the switch and coax them the window all the way up all the way up yeah if you do get it all the way up don't ever touch it again. If you can't do that then you can have somebody take the door panel off Ok Ok And when they do that they can disconnect the motor from the from the from the window Ok And when they when they do that with a disconnect the motor from the window you can actually raise the window manually Ok you can fix it in place with a piece of wood yeah now I did try option one. You get someone much stronger Musselshell he had no luck was he did he do what I described he did and I couldn't get the war in the the under the other windows work they all work you know where well oh no problem he left in the car rip off the grog. Has got to then I guess you're going to take the door apart but that's relatively cheap well and how easy is it something I can do you might I'm pretty going to hound the sister of the changes you're on oil you can do this errant Yeah Ok Well what's the oldest of your nephews or needing I prefer our last way and I won't keep you and it's hard to get the door panel back on why you could always just leave that by the side of the rolled. So in the trunk Yeah well supported in there there were a bunch of little clips that hold the the you know the inner panel they have now but it's not rocket science but you may break some of those if you do you go to the you go to the Honda dealer for a few bucks you buy new ones Ok you got to break all that stuff the goal here is to get the window up don't worry about the ancillary stuff all right I'm going to go give it a try today all right they're going to let me here for a few more hours call us all right see a literary I'm a great day thank you bye bye bye going to be out there for a month. No she will call she'll do it I can see you're doing it you know why poverty is a great motivator. When you don't have money to pay have someone fix something you're not enough. 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Through 12 education learn more it you taught be adored in the any case the foundation with 28 years of Kids Count data on the wellbeing of America's children providing access to national and local information as well as state rankings learn more at data center dot kids count dot org. Really don't wake me up like you're listening to card talk with us Click and Clack the tapper brothers and we're here to talk about cars car repair and the new puzzler Wow I can hardly wait and this was sent I had to do a little monkeying around with me all summer in fact. So this was sent in by a fellow named Chuck Thompson from Austin Texas you ready yeah yeah Zeke and Zach were to high school buddies who live close to each other and they went off together one day in search of afterschool employment you know neither of them had a particularly reliable car so they figured if they both got a job at the same place they could you know help each other get to work. Well finding employment together proved harder than they had thought until they happened upon a pig farmer who was impressed with the air of manure shoveling process. When you start to morrow he asked Yes sir they said you have a car yes in fact each of us has a car said Zeke but mine is a kind of a touchy fuel pump and as a probability of starting of 80 percent and Zack's star has been acting up in the probability of his car starting is only 70 percent. A farmer thought for many says sorry boys but my pigs and I need both of you here at least 90 percent of the time things pile up you know. I'm afraid I can't hire you well with long faces they walked away bemoaning the a bad luck I mean who wouldn't want to spend his free time shoveling pigment but in an instant they figured something out. They would have those dream jobs after all what did they say to the farmer that got them hired now going to move in. Who were the big Well that would do new drivers the school of. Well the 3 answers I guess I hadn't thought of and all good ones. But if you think you know the answer right on the better way what's the question exactly what did they what did they say to the farmer that got them their jobs jobs and it wasn't We're going to move in with what I like now if you think you know the answer write it on the back of a grizzly 489 stand alone belt sander with 4 horsepower 220 volt 3 phase motor 8 inch rubber contact wheel 79 inch heat resistant sanding belts along with a foolish young apprentice willing to risk his hands he has this. Puzzle a taller Car Talk Plaza box 3500 Harvard Square Cambridge our fair city 02238 or you can email us your answer from Car Talk dot com But right now if you have a car question for us we're at 8 car talk that's 888-227-8255 extension 8 lawyer on Car Talk My name is Jeff Howe Yeah I doing that with a j actually is what the g 8 is it's job yeah cheeky Oh f. Yeah excellent where you're from Joff I'm from Pennsylvania where motor bike Motown close it's age and to go and hunt and I don't and the fountain while Moten Pennsylvania and surveying its new reading. I think I've been through. Quick I was real quick. So what's up Jeff I mean my problem yeah I have a 97 moment. When I bought used from a family car out of a relative yes here's my question the brakes could be functioning fine however they make a kind of alarming noise when you apply them. But sound a little like this already. I love it I'm working on it always I think you have it and it does now you're driving along drive along you see a red light up ahead and you put your foot on the brake and at what point in the travel of the brake pedal does this noise occur Well it appears as soon as the brick I should say yeah I have noticed when I start the car yeah the initial time I 1st break after I'm driving off a little bit it's not as bad and it gets worse yet as you continue to use the brakes Well I don't think it's worse but it's continuous constantly it's constant Ok And obviously the noise speeds up as if you were going faster big bit harder to press on the brake Yeah the more rapid the noise becomes while I have I have a theory you do if. Anybody ever thing. I got a feeling I don't I don't know what my brother going to tell you but I have a feeling that it's going to be complete what sent us my theory I'm not going to agree with it not knowing brakes as intimately as I do well I think Jeff has either accidentally or purposely misrepresented the situation but that's but he's not the nice guy I'm going to let it slide when you know my country right but I think that what you have is a slightly warped disk and I don't know where the thing is warped it's as likely to be front as it is rare it sounds like it's coming from the front Ok and I was happening is as the warped part of the distance coming around it is slapping at the brake pad and moving it in the caliper bracket and giving you the book. Noise you could you can find this out by if it is the front Ok I can take it to your repair shop and have them put it up on the lift and you can run the car in gear and you can step on the brake and you'll be able to hear and see this if you if you look from underneath the water while the wheels are turning Ok you'll be actually be able to see the peds moving left to right which they shouldn't be doing Ok I take it back I like and I like it too but I mean it's definitely the sound of paths because then it's the sound of one pad slapping. Yes it is exactly that I think that's what it is yeah that's it Ok and the remedy is to either machine the discs on the car Ok or to replace the discs and. We have a machine which does a superb job this thing called pro cut which is magnificent you're bolted on and you flip a switch and you're going to make itself a salami sandwich and what it does is it turns the rotor Prince Sultan bill. And a male. One and what it does is it is it takes on any runout that's in the bearing of the hub into consideration and it machine's it out of the the whole dynamic of the thing so that you have a perfectly true running disk rotor Ok if you can find someone that has an on the car lave that's what you want well let me ask you this year how much you think this will run for a 400 bucks. Well of used to matter returning them it's probably 100 bucks or less really not going to do it until he needs everything. For about $900.00. That includes a Cadillac. Which you'll do look that is a lawyer you know there. See in. 1888 Car Talk all 18 to 2. 78255 all your own car talk high price Ronnie Sue Ronnie shoe Ronnie Sue Utah that's an interesting one you tell us where you're from all of our own all we know we don't want to guess where she's from. Don't tell us I'm gonna guess you're from Tennessee and know it was Don't tell us Ronnie so is from Georgia I. Know you're going to be disappointed in New York City when right. Where. Oregon where I thought you couldn't have 2 names in order. While the other some of the all the Mason Dixon line have to name in hiding no parents so often below the Mason Dixon line oh my parents Well you know what your name there think my mom's name is Sue and my dad's name is Ron and I don't know they got desperate it's a lesson in one of the Veronica you'll know it's running to a dull one word that's an interesting name so what's up oh Ok well I drive the $79.00 that's a $510.00 No kidding Yeah and I love it I'm in love with it I bought it for $200.00 my 1st car. But I've never paid much attention to you know how runs or are sure that it does keep running. I have this little MacGyver story that like to share with you and all it means Yeah well I was on my way up to my folks' house Portland a couple hours north and every time I get my car there I had something strange happen and this last time I had to well my car with cutting out on me and it was I don't know it's just slowing down quite a bit incessant and eventually I couldn't even go past like 50 mph with that it really cutting out on me so when I got there my dad said I needed a new fill filter and sick. So I got me on they wanted to charge me all bunch of money to put this fuel filter in your father said no I'm like lifted the hood of my car for a ha so I I was kind of mad at how much they wanted to charge me much but they have charged him in the field across like $4.00 Yeah something like 30 to put it in well we charge 50. You know it takes like 5 minutes to put in yeah that's what they said they said all we can have this done for you in 5 minutes right this is or tell me the price Well I guess they charge $60.00 an hour that's why I don't feel like that yeah Ok so I went down to the parts store and asked the guy there and he said I could put it in myself you know so I did and it was the 1st time I'd ever even touched my engine did you feel a certain kind of communion Yeah it was a real bonding moment yes an experience it was awesome yeah and all moment so when my brother feels one time you don't know what it is. You know so then you know I've got this new filter in and I think my imagination was working overtime because on the way home I was feeling like my car is running better than it's ever run in my whole life and yes it was like floating Right right exactly like yeah this one your way just going so fast you couldn't believe it right right excellent all the sudden you know it's like Steam for now good stuff and I think I just happened to have had another problem which is that what I thought was the radiator hose because I really didn't know anything about my engine except for where the fuel filter was. I thought it was a radiator hose but it turned out to be here hose as I found out later had a hole in it laying on my steam app Yeah so you know I'm checking for leaks and stuff to see if there's anything draining out of my radiator and the radiator seemed fine but I couldn't get home I had an hour's left of driving it was the middle of the night on the freeway big trucks are blowing me over and stuff and I thought What am I going to do. And I can even get to a phone to call AAA so. Well I had a bunch of. Kids the underwear on the radio on the way or not I don't really know jockey shorts is Ok the lawyers is all right. In my life. Taking my laundry in my phone. Or so after I want to know that they had some white I had a pair of white band elastic bands with me and I don't think their lack of confidence and wrapped it around that whole you're perfect it was great I'm so excited I just. Not only did you do routine maintenance but you did trauma right oh you try. Right well wrong I can tell what I don't know what your profession is or even even if you have one but whatever it is but it's nothing like you have you know you would you have to give it up you you are destined to be an auto mechanic you are it's now in your blood you have an intuitive feel you do what you do you have it you have whatever you do no my brother is absolutely correct. The job don't go into moral immediately go immediately to i.t.t. Tech they're going to make me feel great. Though I mean the fact that you were able to diagnose the problem and so cleverly in creatively use the whatever small resources at your disposal your jockey shorts. I mean. They were you know. Exactly that's great thank you so did you just call to get praise on the drug problem but you know that that's good right with the MacGyver So yeah what it calls for is that this thing has got to be replaced you know you have to go to the dealer Yeah these are special Holmes's Well I think it is guessing Yeah and they said no no you can't do that yourself but I've got the feeling that I can do anything. You know if I want to do this really bad but yeah fraid of ruining my car you can do it go to the docs and dealer I don't think they call. Dotson's anymore but you look around for the small print the same dots and the big purple saying the sun and you should actually car this is a you should probably replace all the holes which is there like I've hoses every cooling system holes that they have in the chart Ok and then you'll figure out immediately where they go when you have to buy a bunch of new clamps and you can spend a Saturday afternoon at your leisure doing this and then you have to fill up the cooling system with you know fresh antifreeze and you have to run it until it circulates and all that but I can see you don't even need the explanation we know you got to figure out to do it Herschel do it like me how long are you going to go under the dash of my car for the year that's scaring me I don't believe so I think the heater hoses are excessive Full Frontal of the hood on this car yeah it looks like it goes right up into the it goes right to the far wall and stops right right and if it does go into the dash you're going to crawl under there it's easy. And then Seriously once you once you put all these hoses on you'll have drained almost the entire cooling system and then have to fill up the radiator and you want to run the engine with the radiator cap off and you going to continue running it and adding coolant to it as the level goes down you'll see the level go down and you add more in the level because down swore you had a little more going to continue to do that until you see steam coming out of the radiator and the coolant is filled to the tippy top at that point you put the radiator cap on and you are like you know you I don't know have you know you done Ok could be the best of luck to you we're very proud of you we are right keep it right your own Keep up the good work you're my hero and that is soo good I can't see it later I think I'm like well when it happens again you have squandered another perfectly good hour listening to Car Talk our esteemed producer is Doug the subway fugitive not a slave to fashion Bongo boy punk and lips frogman soon to be Surfer Boy Berman our social produces a David the calves of Bellville green and Katherine for all book Final Ok oh well. 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