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News the c.e.o. Of Moscow based lab says he's ready to testify before Congress to defend his company's products but as N.P.R.'s Kim reports from Moscow Eugene Kaspersky could have trouble getting a visa quickly on Wednesday the trumpet ministration ordered u.s. Government agencies to remove software made by. Cyber security concerns you later posted a letter on Twitter saying he's accepting the invitation to appear before Congress on September 27th because it will need an expedited bisa to travel to Washington but because of diplomatic tensions between the u.s. And Russia the American Embassy in Moscow is working on a skeleton crew N.P.R.'s Kim in Moscow a search is under way off Spain's Mediterranean coast for migrants whose raft sank early this morning one body has been recovered so far Lauren Frayer reports from Barcelona. Video recorded by Spain's maritime server. Shows rescue divers climbing a rope down from a helicopter to grab migrants flailing in the water below they'd fired a flare up from their raft as it deflated at least 50 people have been rescued overnight from separate boat survivors say at least 6 people who were with them are now missing helicopters are scanning the water as storms approach migrants take advantage of warm water temperatures to cross the Mediterranean Sea before autumn sets in the European Union says the number of migrants arriving through Spain has more than doubled so far this year for n.p.r. News I'm Lauren Frayer in Barcelona the Commerce Department says retail sells fell in August by 2 tenths of a percent mostly because of a drop in auto sales that offset gains in other areas it's the biggest decline in 6 months Xclusive motor vehicle purchases sales rose 2 tenths of a percent last month on Wall Street at this hour the Dow is up 50 points this is n.p.r. 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You are I'm Jeremy Hobson I'm Robin Young It's here and now is President Trump becoming a Democrat again he was registered as a Democrat from 2001 to 2009 according to New York voting records and now he's made his 2nd deal with the never Kratz in his many weeks so let's bring in our politics roundtable Chad program covers Congress for Fox News he joins us from Capitol Hill hi Chad thanks for having me and Alan Gomez covers immigration for USA Today he's in Miami and it sounds like the power is on where you are Allan thanks for joining us thank you so much Ed let me start with you what exactly did Trump and Senators Schumer the New York to a crowd and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi agree to this week well nice and that is the big question here and depending on who you talk to that is the consternation because you have people on the right saying well they agreed to some permanent fix to allow the Dream Act folks 800000 of them to be in the United States and do this legislatively sometime in the next few months others on the hard right believe this is a case but the president said that he has gone back on campaign promises here one of the most remarkable things I think we had all week was after this bipartisan meeting at the White House with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi had dinner they'd had Chinese food on Wednesday night was the president set up some tweet saying there was an agreement trying to walk this back ever so slightly so he wasn't crossways with his political base and then you had Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer putting out a joint statement basically doing air cover for his tweets that's remarkable if you consider his Twitter feed that you have the Democratic leaders saying no no no what he said in his Twitter feed is consistent with what we agree to well it is pretty remarkable that it ended up apparently after last night being a deal in which there would be an ability for the dreamers the so-called dreamers to stay in the United States with reinforce security on the border but with no wall look as you know a base is livid Here's conservative commentator and talk booster and Coulter and yesterday on whether she feels betrayed. Oh I think the country's been betrayed I think 63000000 voters have been betrayed and I have a little difficulty seeing how. Republicans any Republican ever ever get them well and so staying with you Chad we asked is he a Democrat that's what Rip many Republicans are asking he had been one in the past is this and this has Riven the Republican Party since Reagan gave amnesty to people in undocumented in the country what what's the what's the result here well what we have here is a pragmatism issue for the president he worked exclusively with Republicans on health care they couldn't get very far they did manage to get something barely through the house by the skin of their teeth they could move something in the Senate he is thinking about his long term legacy and I'm going through some numbers at you here 217 to 213 that was the vote in the House on health care you switched 2 votes it ties it's a tie it fails 90 Republicans voted against him in the house on the combined bill a couple of weeks ago to fund the hurricane relief efforts to keep the government open and raise the debt ceiling 17 in the Senate he can't govern with only Republicans and people on Capitol Hill and at the White House are indicating that this is the post Priebus pivot writes Priebus was the former Republican National Committee chair he was the the the chief of staff at the White House here and just working with Republicans in this legislative environment does work he needs Democrats to get things done Republicans will vote for certain things on Capitol Hill well and Gomez let me bring you in on this you have been covering this issue so closely for so long what do you make of this deal and do you think that this sort of pushes the wall off the table at least for now because if he can't get it done now is he going to be able to do it in a year. Well if if this deal comes through and they do it without a wall I mean he basically loses all his leverage with the Democrats to be able to get something some some kind of money that those big dollars that he wants for expand the border wall but I'm not being facetious when I say let's wait to see what President Trump says next week on this because having covered this this issue for so long it's watching him several years ago before he was running for office he met with dreamers he said he was won over by them they were fantastic he runs for office he runs for the for for the White House and suddenly he's saying he's going to end the program he's going to is going to deport them he wins the election he starts talking about oh I'm going to treat them with great heart this is going to be they're wonderful people they're great and then discuss weeks ago he does the only concrete action on it which is to end DACA and start phasing it out and then we're now in this sort of back and forth over these last few days so you know I provide I say all that so make the point that yes he's kind of been leaning more towards this deal and it looks like he's working with the Dems on this one right now but again he could change very quickly he's getting annihilated right now online if you go on Breitbart right now there's a whole running chain of people showing them burning their Make America Great Again hats and so you know give it a weekend where he gets a lot of bad coverage in that area from those hardcore supporters and we buy we might have another ballgame next week when I jump we're going to for a 2nd there's one little point that that is very key here there aren't the votes on Capitol Hill to erect a wall that something that has to be passed there was this bill that through about $1600000000.00 toward border security which they had to put on another bill back in July and they had to tack it on to that piece of legislation and say that that was money a down payment for the wall because there aren't the votes for a while so maybe this again is the pragmatism of President Trump let's head programme of Fox News but Alan Gomez of USA Today I want to bring you in again because Maggie Haberman of the New York Times said something interesting this morning she said advisors told her that Pres. And Trump really didn't understand that Dach is a finite program you have to be brought as a child to the u.s. Before 2007 so the population that qualifies is running out and of course if you listen to some right wing radio you don't hear that you hear that it's an ongoing stream of people but if this is true is that encouraging to you that this is a president who when informed can change his mind or is it alarming if you didn't know. It's lightly terrifying that he the day that he announced that he was ending the program later that day said that he might reconsider it in 6 months you know this is an. Important not you know let's put aside the politics for a 2nd and understand that this affects nearly 800000 people who are in this program so there's that and you would think that he would have a full understanding of what the program did and what the effects of his actions would be before he he announced that he was going to roll out the program and so yes it's encouraging that he's here now this sort of stuff but we're sort of seeing I mean just a couple hours ago on Twitter you know in all caps he says chain migration cannot be allowed to be part of any legit legislation on immigration that's clearly in response what we've heard the last couple of days from from some from conservative media arguing that these doctor recipients are going to be able if they get citizenship to bring in all their families and he said no citizenship just allowed to stay in u.s. But yeah exactly and then what we have now I'm sorry if I'm losing a little bit of track but I've been in this hurricane cell phone coverage is going a little bit rough there and so I'm getting all the information on this and burst whenever my Whenever I get cell phone coverage but you know I see him so they ask him about is this and he see he says no the word is DACA and then later on when he lands he said no this is not amnesty so it's changing so quickly and the details of this are so critically important that until we start seeing some meat on these bones it's really hard to understand what this deal could possibly be and what the effect of it would be well while the president was in the air he made some news let's listen here to what he said he's kind of going back to blaming both sides in this Charlottesville protests here is talking about the left wing group and now you have some. Of the other side lot of people saying in fact to be. Something that. This was a day after having a tete a tete with Tim Scott the only African-American Republican in the Senate Chad why does he want to have this conversation. Again because it didn't really end well for him last time well that demonstrates you know a lack of message discipline this is something that John Kelly the White House chief of staff was supposed to bring to this president but again you know he kind of says what he says and you know Thames Scott had one of this meeting went down to the White House and met with him you know there was a resolution that the president just signed last night which was approved by the House and Senate which condemned the k.k.k. And white supremacist neo nazis in Charlottesville and he signed that So it's interesting to hear him say that at one point and then you know the Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill sent him this resolution something that they designed in such a way to compel him to have to sign it and he signed it last night so again this is where we're getting these cross messages out of 600 Pennsylvania Avenue Gomez I want to make sure we ask you because there you are having you know ridden out the storm there in Florida as you mentioned what about the president's storm response he visited yesterday he's a surrounded by people everywhere he goes wearing their red hats and their Tom t. Shirts they seem very appreciative of seeing him but we're learning more about the 8 nursing home deaths in that nursing home that became an even the president praised Florida Governor Rick Scott saying he make a great senator but in Florida the nursing home industry lobbied against rules that would require generators for air conditioners in those nursing homes they one there was no generator for the air conditioners there that doesn't look good for the Florida governor Absolutely not I mean and this and this this nursing home story is just it's right when we thought we'd gotten past the worst of the storm you know where we went over there and found out about this and it was just so horrible and so tragic and yet it's it's going to be one of those defining issues of this hurricane and just kind of adding to that when we talk about you know we see Trump pens came down fim the theme of Ministre to rock along has been down there's a there's been a lot of the have been running around and doing a lot of. And I'm talking quite a bit but I can tell you from running around southwest Florida down the Florida Keys yesterday that folks are kind of saying hey that's all great but where's my water where's my ice and it's you know the female administrator it was talking about that they're still focused on life safety and life sustaining issues and the Department of Defense at one point said there's maybe 10000 people in the Florida Keys that might need evacuation that wasn't the case right so folks are saying hey give us our water gives our eyes and stop with the p.r. And let's let's get rolling that's outcome as it covers immigration for USA Today and the hurricane last week cad program covers Congress for Fox News thanks to both of you thank you let's hear now again. 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It's here and now the elderly are very much top of mind with the image of nursing home residents waist deep in water in Houston or dying from the heat in Florida while officials there ask how our elderly citizens could be better cared for during a hurricane a tool go on is long asked how could they be better cared for period in his 2014 bestseller being mortal he admitted that like most doctors he had a lot to learn he didn't know that hospices could actually prolong life or what to ask a patient making end of life decisions or what to ask when his own father began to fail so you began studying what was wrong and found people who were doing it right being mortal medicine and what matters in the end is now out in paperback we spoke when the book was 1st published and started with Bill Thomas a doctor in New Berlin New York as the new medical director of the chase memorial nursing home Thomas wanted to try something different he walked into this place and felt that there was no life here and he said let's bring animals in let's bring plants in and that's what he did he wanted everybody to have a pet everybody to have an animal that belonged to them he brought in a 100 birds and established a daycare center for the employees children so there were children on site how do you measure the success you call this a success story has that measured he describes people literally waking up people who were catatonic before started to speak then you got numbers like the amount of medications required for sedation and anxiety declined there was even an increase in how long people survived people found that there was worth to their days there was purpose to being alive again as simple as just being able to care for another being but I can just hear someone thinking how can you just bring animals into a regulated place yeah you know it's very telling that we called these places nursing homes we did not want to admit that these were places where we were trying to manage mortality. And therefore we didn't try to think hard about what having a good life in such a place might be we focused on health and safety and that's why these places became like prisons but there are places that remade themselves one version called green houses really specifically make it so that the hallways instead of having just these long hallways with 60 people on them in double occupancy rooms made private smaller rooms with a dozen people ringed around instead of a nursing station around a kitchen and one of the radical ideas was that anybody could get up and come from their room and go to the kitchen and open the refrigerator and get something that they wanted to eat or drink people would say suppose they take a soda out and they're a diabetic or suppose they're supposed to be on a pureed diet and that he'd a cookie you know what these are choices people can make and we live for more than just being safe or surviving even people with some severe dementia that they were showing there could be allowed to have choices and freedom and that gave them a sense of more control over their lives talk about Peter sandworm place it was built in 1903 is a subsidized apartment building for independent low income elderly but then the manager there Jackie Carson sounds incredible she just decided that I'm going to help my tenants as they age and as they got older they got more and more needs and the home health agency that would get called in would say of these people belong in a nursing home but Jackie would send them off and they'd be miserable there so she said you know what we're just going to make it so we can keep them at home and when the home health agency insisted that well they won't do it anymore she started a home health agency of her own where she teach the nurses how to make it possible for people to make their own choices like we described trying to address the fact that you know many of these people only have a year or 2 left in their lives that can be full of purpose and something other than like be. Ingo and group trips to a museum that none of them are actually excited about increasing their quality of life you know when one of the tenants developed Alzheimer's a private charity paid for the 1st overnight health care worker So here's an apartment building with an overnight health care worker minutes thinking outside of the box but now I can hear people saying Ok that's one building they've got a private charity to help them but how do you afford it it isn't about whether you've spent more or not it's really about a cultural shift Jackie Carson make it possible for a woman with Alzheimer's disease to go out to a restaurant on Fridays with her friends and you know what she was diabetic at but she would want to Margarita and on Friday nights they'd break the rules and she'd get a margarita that is all the creativity took it didn't take money in fact it often cost less because people's medication needs would go down Bill Thomas I described how the work he was doing when they brought the pets and actually lowered the likelihood that patients needed all the different kinds of medications they were on well and also takes the family signing on because you point out that a lot of the decisions that get made about the elderly will deliver what they'll do are made by adult children they want to feel safer and you may have to let go of some of that you may have to allow your mother to go to an apartment building where the manager might let them go have a margarita exactly one of the most fascinating things that someone I spoke to said was safety is what we want for those we love but autonomy is what we want for ourselves and we forget that about our parents that they're going to have priorities that go beyond just being quote unquote safe well so we've talked about the huge problem of the elderly who can't anymore live alone at home and in alternatives to nursing homes that people are coming up with but there's no getting around the ultimate destination and he spend a good portion of your book talking about this and it's really quite poignant because you. Dad is failing as you are learning the language to speak to him you know for instance you admit early on you didn't know what hospice care was you thought it was to hasten death but actually it extends survival Yeah there's this fascinating study at the Mass General Hospital they randomized half of stage 4 lung cancer patients who only had on average about 11 months to live half of them got usual on college e. Care and the other half got the usual oncology care plus saw a palliative care specialist who had discussions with them about their goals for when they get sick or that group who had the conversations ended up choosing to stop their chemotherapy sooner they started hospice care so earlier they had less suffering at the end of life and here was the kicker they lived 25 percent longer and that just meant we're making bad decisions by not having the conversations to help people draw lines about when the sacrifices they're going through for the sake of possible time later are starting to exceed the value a lot of the basic questions that the Ask a pretty simple ones we can all ask what are the tradeoffs you're willing to make and not willing to make what are the goals you have even if your health worsens so a tool this idea of asking patients with they want this meant switching from someone you'd recognised you'd been which is doctor information you give the patient all the information about the disease in the surgery and the treatment and and you start switching sometimes mid session to what do you want what is a goal that you have how eyeopening was this for you to be after so many years realizing when I I have to ask them what they want it changed my practice pretty fundamentally the switch to realizing that we have to be effective counselors for people which means asking them some questions that help us understand what they really care about and then saying yes you have option a b. And c. But I wouldn't do option a or b. If y. . Really matters to you is that you don't have your brain fuzzy or that you don't suffer a lot of pain maybe it's option c. Which has fewer side effects even though it might be potentially less powerful or someone else who says I'm willing to go through anything for this slivers chance of total cure Ok then we're going to hit it and we're going to be on it and we know this is going to be a tough tough road but you're willing to take that sacrifice different people make different choices but it's being able to counsel them based on their priorities instead of just laying out the choices and then leaving people puzzled about what to do when you know even if you are speaking out and you acknowledge this this sounds awfully close to rationing and death panels how do you deal with that and the fact that you were there when it's your loved one you really get tempted to try anything a death panel that says you can't have what you care about in your life is what people fear the panel of doctors and nurses who say if I understand that this is your priority in life and therefore this is what your best path is we will provide that path for you that's like a living panel and that when my father went through what was brain cancer and it was not curable we had these series of conversations there's a colleague's father said that what mattered to him is that if I can eat chocolate ice cream and watch football on television that's good enough for me you know who is even he might even paralyzed by an operation but that's Ok as long as he can watch t.v. Yeah and my dad said that is not good enough for me he was a social creature and he wanted to be able to still Skype and see people also he wanted to still make contributions that made a difference in the world and as long as that wasn't taken away that's what he was willing to live for and so that's what we work to maximize and it guided when he decided to go for a very aggressive radical operation that did buy him more time without quadriplegia when he started to become quadrate. The chick had guided our decision that he would go for radiation therapy when that didn't work and it made him worse it guided decisions that he would not do chemotherapy and go on to hospice and right through that time continuing to work on the charity projects he had having dinner parties seen people it was a pretty amazing Do you think you got it right you didn't I think after 10 years of being a surgeon where I felt we were not getting it right for my patients I felt like for once with my father we were getting it right now. A 2 we are so sorry for the loss of your dad what a great tribute to him this book is he was also a doctor so thank you for talking to us about it thank you and a tool go on days bestselling book is being mortal medicine and what matters in the end is now out in paperback and staying with health this note later on All Things Considered why are some rural hospitals paying very high prices for very common drugs that's later on a.t.c. This is here now. 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You are I'm Jeremy Hobson The Commerce Department reported today that retail sales a key measure of consumer spending fell last month now it was only a point 2 percent decrease but it was unexpected so is it a sign of the retail apocalypse some of them warning about or is it just addicted to hurricane Harvey which would figure into the numbers because it happened in August Michael Reagan is senior editor at Bloomberg News he joins us from New York hi Mike Hi Jeremy So why did retail sales fall well hurricanes like you said definitely are going to somewhat to Stuart all economic reports for the next few months in this case the Commerce Department said it couldn't really isolate the effect of Harvey but in any event this was not a positive report for the retail industry because the prior month figures were also revised lower and that none store sales which includes e-commerce were down and the figures showed that August sales of cars and light trucks posted the weakest monthly pace since 2014 were down about 0.2 percent so not a good report overall but when you look at some of the other indicators out there like unemployment which is very low in compared to what it has been certainly if people have jobs and they're making money why aren't they spending it in retail Well right and some of the consumer confidence surveys continue to be either at records were very near record highs or at least highs for the last 10 years or so I think there's a few things going on 1st there's just this very very intense competition these days among retailers which is perfect providing retailers from having you know what they call mostly pricing power in other words the ability to raise prices and also if you think of the demographics there's this huge baby boom generation right now and older people just don't buy as much stuff and then there's a big millennial generation and there's just a lot of research that suggests they aren't as can speak. Lewis of consumers as previous generations now maybe that's just an effect of them coming of age during a time when the economy didn't have a lot of behind it so watch to see if that's a long term trend there are also fears in the industry that Amazon is making a big difference in retail sales is that playing into this Oh absolutely yeah person this report which is a fish official government numbers online retailers are actually included and yet they still had a month a month the Kleine now part of that is because remember Amazon's prime day was in July so that's a pretty hard comparison month over month to that. So that's that's part of it but . Obviously there wasn't enough room from from online to turn this into a positive number is so this a retail apocalypse that we've been hearing about is that something that people are talking about or is this just kind of a blip in the numbers Well I think there's a big distinction to be made between the health of the retail industry itself and the health of the consumer like we said the consumer confidence numbers are great right unemployment number is great but like I said before Amazon and Google and the whole modern day e-commerce system has really improved the ability for consumers to find the best possible price so it's good for consumers not necessarily great for the industry and it's hard to imagine it really having any sort of sort of v. Shaped rebound where it comes roaring back that's Michael Reagan senior editor at Bloomberg News Mike thanks Thank you Jeremy it's here and now. 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It's here and now and fall is fast approaching but according to here in our resident chef Kathy Gunston you can still preserve the taste of summer by canning it Kathy's here in the studio Hi Kathy Hi Jeremy So Canning is one of your favorite end of season activities it is it's kind of a ritual it's always bittersweet because it means that summer is winding down but it is a way to preserve summer and a lot of people will say why would I do that it's really a lot of work and I will not lie some of it can be but the point is that this time of year everything is so fresh and the point of canning is that you get the very fresh as food you can find and you harvest it and you seal it up and it never gets a minute to decay so you're sort of capturing the best food in the best season and keeping it that way it's like living forever except. Well tell us about some of these things that you brought up today and can let's start with the simplest ones these are quick pickles that can also be canned and I'm going to explain what the difference is a quick pickle is simply a matter so for instance there are carrots there because they're carrots from the farmer's market so they were picked that morning I put them raw into sticks into a jar I'm a big mason jar and then I heated up apple cider vinegar and garlic and some chili peppers and poured the hot vinegar solution a little bit of water a little bit of salt over the rock carrot and I seal it and I put it in the fridge those are 3 days old and I think they're just fabulous They're just think around your Chevy Chase in Vegas Vacation telling his kids to try this cookie that is 8 years old. This is a little only after a day but the point is if I wanted to preserve it for a year I would Can it and what that means is that I would go through a somewhat technical process. Yes of sterilizing my jars that means cleaning them and hot hot water with lots of soap and then you dunk them into a big pot of boiling water then I would take them out and dry it I would put my carrots in I put my hot vinegar solution on top and I'd seal the jar and then I would boil them in a canning pot for about 1012 minutes and that would be sealed those carrots would keep anywhere for a year and a year and a half and there's Dylan here too there is also Dylan there from my garden but so the difference is maybe you don't feel like canning maybe you just want to do some pickles because you have all these vegetables but you really don't have the time or the heart commitment to get into all that so you just pop them in your fridge and they keep for weeks so next to the carrots are string beans from my garden in rice wine vinegar with big chunks of fresh ginger and some hot spicy sesame oil and I taste that right now that a little bit isn't that nice These also are 3 days old and they still have the snap of a fresh green bean Yeah but they're also becoming something else they're pickles now so it's that simple a matter of heating up some vinegar and spices and you're there Ok so I talked about canning you see all these jars you put them in boiling water and then the big question is how do you know if it's safe so I never ever in my life tell people to talk to the government but I will in this case the u.s.d.a. Has a terrific site which we can link people to where you can learn all about the technicalities of canning how to avoid botulism how to do a quick task so that you're sure that the food that you've canned is safe but there's a sound involved Ok this is my homemade roasted tomato sauce I make this every year I take all the tomatoes from the garden chop them up with Bizzle garlic olive oil fresher herbs put it into a hot hot oven and instant sauce this might be my most famous favorite recipe of my life and yet I've never had it before well you're going to taste right now but I want you to listen to something next to it is some jam that I made that's been opened so this is what a jar sounds like when it's not sealed. It kind of wobbles around it bubbles This is what a jar sounds like when it's sealed. It's like a dull thump here is what I do I'm going to unscrew the ring and I'm going to try to lift it up just by that inner peace of the ring it doesn't come up but I'm going to open it for you my last jar years from joining 16 you are ready you know. Well now smell that that is my garden in a jar move right but you let me go in there pasta over here. Takes that straight out is that good now you could add and show V's and make it up with the Nascar you can add anything right that to me tastes like summer and you can have it all year and in the dead of winter with some delicious linguini you know you're all set that's the beauty of canning is that you get all the flavors and colors of summer to use at will and how long can you keep them a year a little bit more it depends what it is I have some books to recommend and some websites to get into the real technicality of canning because you do want to be careful if you're jars don't seal and you hear that going in that sound open them up have a little bit put it in your fridge and enjoy it now we also have in front of me what looks like breakfast breakfast Yeah or dessert actually at the farmer's market there are these gorgeous plums perfectly ripe so I made a concert of it's not quite as thick as a jam or jelly but I toasted a baguette for you with some butter and that is just plums with a little bit of sugar not overly sweet but you should really taste the fruit and I love poems too I do too and that's what jams and jellies should be about about the taste of the fruit I also brought you a bowl of plain yogurt sprinkled a little bit of maple syrup around it and put the plum conserves smack in the middle of it that would be a really beautiful dessert or breakfast so that's Alicia's in that nice so the thing about canning is it can be pickles like for an empty pasta platter a 1st course. Can be a tomato sauce which could be your main course or dessert sweet jam Staley's capturing all the fruits of summer we will put all of these recipes up at our website here and now dot org lot of canning to be done for people maybe they don't know anything about it but we've got the tips at the website and also it's really fun to have a party and do it with a group of people and share the labor and turn it into a really fun day of canning and everybody gets to have some of that so everyone takes it home and everyone's happy Cathy Gunn Sirin our resident chef thanks as always thanks Jeremy and just like canning buck dancing requires some patience and guidance if you've never heard of Buck dancing you're about to find out what it is a program in Tennessee has linked artistic masters with young apprentices Tony Gonzalez from w.p. Has the story. In a corner of a brewery a circle of old time musicians plucked strum and how they're already at it when the box dancer steps to the board at the center of their ring. It's Thomas scrawny 78 year old whose elbows hips and knees jingle like a country puppet above his clacking black shoes above as if there's a dead tune that they're playing and and be part of that music is trying to match that music be a part of the play. Because he looks at it like you know he's improvising and expressing yourself here's a great piece here and what you're doing of in your head what he's doing it is it's an exchange. That's Rob Pearson multi-engine mentalist folk musician for years he's played behind mop and in southern buck dancing competitions the style is less showy than clogging and more musical like flat footed tap dance and lately when passing this on to someone more than 50 years his junior for me was an app my all time music which meant manly thing and. Oh the best dance on the dance and it was there and now studying with him although there's no classroom or formal rehearsal space if every time it takes I'm ready because it just comes so natural to let us say the basic set and then if I can maybe just say this but Martin says she caught on quickly we. Were told to hold. Well I'm trying to get as close to Thomas dance and as I can this is I think a lot of people know things like him and I want to kind of preserve what he does. This night is prime for practice with the hardwood floors a capacity crowd and mop and setting the pace. They trade licks both always in motion when Williams is on a good run up and hoots it's encouraging that for the future of fucked it all because you. Will not try my best to hear I'm not the be on good as a rail and. Some may beg to differ Thomas mopping has been named a national heritage fellow this year but the way he sees it the future doesn't hinge on him a resurgence of old time music means plenty of musician circling up the space in the middle for the next buck to answer for here and now I'm Tony Gonzalez and Nashville. You're listening to. Good afternoon this is here in l. Delaware public media here and now in Delaware public media sponsored by you our listeners and by Charles Sheila and Connor Cooper who have adopted the d.d.e. Here now do you have a favorite program you'd like to adopt give us a call at 302-857-7228 or go online to Delaware public dot org Thanks do you need a quick update when you're on the go follow us on Twitter at w d d e 911 for the latest news of what's happening in Delaware and some glimpses behind the microphone Thanks. 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It's here and now the Caribbean island of St Maarten have to have French was one of the hardest hit by Hurricane Earl early on there were fights over food including more than a week later food fuel any power are rare almost all structures are damaged no schools since close Ward is on St Maarten Clarissa the last time we talked to you you were in a Syrian town reduced to rubble of course isn't war would you think when you see say Martin. I think what's really striking about send Martin is 1st of all it seems an incongruous place to see this kind of devastation we're used to thinking about the Caribbean in the context of this beautiful vacation destination paradise for Taurus and so to see that level of damage and destruction the likes of which I would say I am more accustomed to seeing in a war zone it is somehow jarring it's also jarring I would say to see how long it has taken authorities here and I should emphasize that I'm on the French side of the island it's really taken a very long time for them to get a basic trickle of aid into the hardest hit areas up until just really today they've been so focused on really just getting out a small amount of rations of food getting some drinking water to people and when you see places where this food and water is being handed out it's quite chaotic there's a crush of people clamoring to get their hands on a couple of bottles of drinking water it's a little upsetting to see that in a place where we traditionally think of it as being a kind of beautiful escape in the Caribbean and Paradise Well that is a French territory so if France in a fishing country perhaps there was no place to land but there were reading accounts of when people are getting these food stuffs that were on hand handed out . Things like frozen chicken or a 3 pound bag of months realities you know and there's nothing they can't cook there's nothing to do with it I think there is a lot of frustration if you talk to residents here they feel very let down by the French they cannot believe that a week after this hurricane the French authorities are really still struggling to get this basic a out get running water back because that's the real concern right now people are able to kind of survive on the food that they have but there is a real concern now about the potential for disease and the potential for some kind of outbreak but also just these mountains of trash alongside every street I can tell you Robin the smell this putrid smell of rotting garbage and of course wherever you have giant piles of rotting garbage you have rats and wherever you have crap you have disease Well we know that more people die from a lack of clean drinking water water sanitation then any other thing in the disaster it's the water that they die from but we're also reading reports of doctors on the island saying that they doubt the death toll so far I mean something like 11 but they feel that there's going to be many many more maybe even hundreds because of the flattening of the island is that your sense it's so difficult to get a sense of what the reality is on the ground these is the death toll of these of the situation with injured people we know that the hospital was evacuated and every day we have seen ambulances ferrying around the island taking people some of whom appeared to be in pretty bad shape to be honest to the airport to try to get them out to the nearest island the nearest French Island I should say which is Guadalupe they're being evacuated to that hospital we don't know exactly. How many people were killed in this storm what I would also say is whether the death toll is higher or not one thing is clear a lot of people are skeptical of what they're hearing because as I said before not a lot of trust and definitely some resentment they're saying listen the storm happened a week ago and we knew that Erma was coming for days how could we be so poorly prepared all this time later questions is the answer just quickly though are you seeing signs of resilience I mean what how are the people coping I mean I'm really glad you brought that up because it is the one encouraging thing you do see after natural disasters and you're definitely seeing it in sin Martin there is an incredibly strong spirit of resilience an incredibly strong spirit of community people banding together there are lots of different nationalities living here French on the French side Dutch on the Dutch 5 but also a large amount of Jamaicans Haitians people from Puerto Rico people from all over and there's a tremendous spirit of unity we see people out on the streets every day with their bare hands clearing debris sweeping up a lot of the people we asked you know are you going to try to evacuate are you going to try to go to Guadalupe but it's remarkable how many people want to stay here how many people want to rebuild this island and how much kindness there is in terms of pooling resources and working together to do the best they can and incredibly trying circumstances this is c.n.n. Clarissa Ward on St Maarten from French side of course a thank you thank you so much tourism officials are hearing from people who still want to come to places like St Martin voluntourism they want to help but hear about that on Monday here now is a production of n.p.r. Interview our association with the b.b.c. World Service I'm Robin I'm Jeremy Hobson this is here in. Funding for hero now comes from the listeners of w b u r Boston and Roadside Attractions resulting stronger and starring Jake Gyllenhaal as Jeff Bowman an ordinary man whose life was transformed by the Boston Marathon bombing also starring Tatyana Muslim me in theaters September 22nd Good afternoon you're listening to here now on Delaware public media I'm your host Nick. 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