So our guest this morning is , congressman steve lynch coming to us via satellite from our washington bureau. The south boston democrat is a Ranking Member of the Sub Committee on national security. Sir, thanks for joining us from washington. Regression we appreciate it. Rep. Lynch good morning. Jaent thank you for jonas. I am not sure if it is safer to be in boston or there. Were stiai president elect trump to announce this entire team, but when you hear names like steve bannon will be at the highest level in the oval office, what do you think . Rep. Lynch well, he has a history, as you know, and he has said and he has printed some outrageous stuff. He could be a bridgeburner versus a bridgebuilder. I am not sure if that is a good first step for the new president. If he is trying to establish a said we should give everybody a chance, but knowing his background, do you give mr. Bannon a little bit of width and see what he does before you pass judgment . Rep. Lynch well, the president won. Donald trump won. He gets to make these appointments, and his administration will rise, succeed, or fail, based in large part on who he i do not think it was a wise choice on his part. He gets to make that choice. I dont hear it we will deal with i dont. We will deal with what he decides in the realm he has the ultimate say. Ed congress, should americans be concerned that the president elects children will be not only running his businesses and advising him at the white house . Should we be concerned about the . Rep. Lynch markets tell me what to do on a regular basis. He has some smart ivanka his daughter, the oldest one, very bright. If he feels comfortable having them advising him, you know i mean, my biggest concern is he wont listen. He has not shown a proclivity to listen to others, and that might be one of his weaknesses. If we can get him to listen to some people, hopefully his own advisors on defense, national securifo think that is a good thing. Ed do you think his soninlaw should be involved in the highlevel briefings the president elect himself gets now . Rep. Lynch well, there is a nepotism statute. I am not sure how he will deal with that about hiring family, but if he is an offthepayroll advisor, i know there are a number of organizations there if he trusts his soninlaws judgment, then i suppose we shouldnt deny him good advice. Jaent what do you think there is a conflict of interest when you think about them running his business and also advising him at the white house . Rep. Lynch sure. There will definitely be conflicts of interest. I know he has contracts with the drove by it. Yeah, he has a farflung financial empire. It will be very difficult for him to divest, i guess. If he is just going to hand it off to his kids, he still has an active interest in his children and the business. So, we will have to deal with that. I am not sure how, but i am sure this will be an extraordinary effort to try to create a firewall between the president s territory, isnt it, congressman . You are dealing with someone not from the washington and someone who has been, as janet, and you well know, a successful businessman, to disconnect from that and be president of the United States. Rep. Lynch yeah, George Bush George w. Bush, i think he was owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team. He had he was able to do a blind trust, Something Like that he divested his interest. So, we have had similar situations, not one as extensive as this one, i think. Jaent lets turn the conversation to your party. You signed a letter this week to postpone the election of a Democratic House leader. Do you think its time for nancy pelosi to step back despite her fundraising prowess . Rep. Lynch well, i think it is time to have a discussion about the role forward. Fail for the Democratic Party. We went from a party a congress where we had the largest republican majority since Herbert Hoover was president , and we only gained five or six seats. So, we talk more about Free Range Chicken than we did about working people. We missed the message on that. A lot of people who normally would vote democratic voted for donald trump. Plan. Jaent so, is it time for pelosi to step away . Rep. Lynch lets hear what her plan is. She wanted a shotgun election. We were in washington less than 24 hours, and she wanted to be reelected right away without end is without any discussion. I thought that was wrong. I feel the Democratic Party needs some soulsearching, find out what the plan is going forward. The old plan did not work. Mrs. Pelosi to pursue that leadership chair. Until somebody comes forward, she is the fait accompli. Ed lets go down that road, congress and. Give us a name, or two, or three, please. Rep. Lynch well, it has been in the press. I know joe crawley there is an article in political politico this morning, joe crowley is considering it, and were him from the rust belt crowd there is nobody in leadership from the rust belt, which we lost terribly to donald trump. So, this feeling that while mrs. Pelosi is very good at raising money, and every but he concedes that point, we also think that besides money, campaigns are we did not capture the imagination or inspire the electorate in terms of our idea in the last election. Ed it sounds as you are interested in a change in the leadership position. Am i misrepresenting your position . Rep. Lynch i am interested in a change in the plan. Mrs. Pelosi could do that, i guess, but so could some of these new candidates that are interested in as well. Jaent crowley or ryan could win your vote over policy . Rep. Lynch lets hear what they have to say. Mrs. Pelosi could win the vote. Ed we are ready to hear what you have to say about the otr pop quiz. You felt that you were in washington you would not get it. Rep. Lynch i dread this. Ed you do so well. Question 1 breitbart executive steve bannon, president elect trumps new senior counselor and chief what was he doing when he was in boston . Rep. Lynch i am sure it was nefarious activity. I cannot even imagine what he was doing. Ed some might call this nefarious activity he was a student at Harvard Business school. Rep. Lynch there you go. Question ed question two donald trump claims that he is a billionaire many times over. What is the current annual salary of e and seller, by the way trump has , already said he wont accept. Meg internet for the holidays. So in the 3. 7 seconds it takes gary watson to beat the local sled jump record, fly, gary, fly. His friend can download 13 versions of the perfect song. His sister can live stream it. While his mom downloads how to set a dislocated shoulder. 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[laughter] jaent back here in Massachusetts Governor charlie , baker is hopeful that the 5 year medicaid waiver agreement he just signed with the federal government wont dissolve with the new administration. Can you give him any assurances that that deal, which would basically save massachusetts taxpayers about 5 billion over i believe we are in a good position. The hospitals and providers that have been affected have been reassured, and they are going forward. I would say in the out years, and i understand that donald trump has said that as the new president he would be, you know, not fullpe changing the Affordable Care act extensively. It remains to be seen if the medicare waivertype prozac provisions would be an area where he is trying to change. We will have to look at that closely. But it wont be a situation that affects massachusetts only. It will be a broader landscape that is affected by the changes, complicated process for him to try to decouple some of the provisions versus others within the Affordable Care act. It is not as simple as he has made it sound. Ed you heard what candidate donald trump said about changes in immigration policy. Now the question is what can you , tell undocumented immigrants in massachusetts to expect . Not that it is president top. Trump. Rep. Lynch everybody up and throw them out, at least the bad ones, according to him. I think that is an oversimplification. I think there are rights that a lot of the immigrants who are in this country have as far as you process goes due process goes. I do understand, as far as anyone who has been convicted of from the country if they are here illegally. I also think that if we are going to come up with a comprehensive immigration system, then we have to construct one that you cannot go around. There has to be accountability there. Ed congressman i do not mean to cut you off, im sorry. Rep. Lynch go ahead. Ed this is the last question i asked this four years ago. Has the Electoral College lived its usefulness in the United States . Rep. Lynch no, not at all. It engages the smaller states. If we go to a general population, we will focus on the most populous states, and that is where the engagement in the political process will be, and we will leave all of the smaller states of less population, and most efficient use of dollars, going after votes. California certainly the east coast, new york, new jersey, massachusetts they will get some play. Florida, a big senior population there. A couple of the big states in the central United States. But, you know, i do not think that is the way to go. I think you stick with the Electoral College. Play in most of the states, and that is a good thing. Jaent think you, congressman. We appreciate you being with us this morning. Rep. Lynch thank you, janet, thank you, ed. Ed as we continue, how does announcer thousands of boston area families h to develop new commonsense home sharing rules. Were working with policymakers to ensure our community can pay their fair share of taxes. And we support rules that protect Affordable Housing and maintain our neighborhoods. Together, we can make sure all of boston benefits. And an eventful political season behind us, we are wondering, what you have to be thankful for when it comes to politics . . I am thankful for the wakeup call. I am thankful for the free country, and we can vote for whoever we want. Mr. Trump it is going to be america first. . History. Seeing him on 60 minutes i believe he is humbled by what this means. And you are thankful for the . I am thankful for that. Life moves on. And you are thankful for that . Yeah. Ed and speaking of being thankful, we are thankful to have great americans. Who wouldnt like to have your thanks giving cable all the time. Lots of good discussion. Good, meaty issues. [laughter] where are we here. Jaent ok, you all heard steve lynch this morning. What does this mean for the congressional delegation they had solid contacts at the white house and on the hill with Party Leaders for many years. Has it all evaporated . Important to hold trump accountable, as it is to get things done for massachusetts. That is the issue there. The other issue is what will Charlie Baker do to work with the new president . That is the dilemma for everyone. Jaent have we lost a lot of our cloud on capitol hill . Ginny certainly, yes, there is a leadership gap on the democratic side. Whether someone can claim the mantle will be interesting. 33 republican governors were elected. Democrats are clearly out of touch with the country. Jaent is it time for pelosi to go . Ginny i think new leadership and new ideas would be smart. Mary anne i think she is the only one that could do what the democrats need without consequence. I doubt she runs after this. Ed we talked about john kerry the end of the obama crossroads. Ignoring mumblings he might run for governor, what do you see in the cards for him . Mary anne, you use to work for ignore that he used to work for him and long time ago. Not a long, long time. Read the tea leaves. Mary anne there is no question john kerry wants to stay involved. What form that takes i do not know. People speculate about governor. He didnt want to run for governor, ran for senate. Takes. I think he sees what every other democrat sees right now an opportunity in light of the election to really go after republicans, go after trump, and do things, and since the election, everyone seems to have stepped up. Im happy about that. Ed what do you see for the secretary . Ginny i see a complete inability in the Democrat Party to learn the lessons of the Campaign People do not want to go backwards. Backwards. John kerry, as much as i admire him, is a step backwards in terms of the future of the country. Mary anne one point, i do not think we know what happened in the election until you look at the votes in the voter file. That is the biggest concern. Democrats are great at finding the last fight, but know what the problem is. That is my concern with everyone ready headlong into every solution. Jaent governor baker ~ walked the same fine line as President Trump this week, but he did issue this warning about trumps chief strategist steve take a listen. Gov. Baker based on some of bannings previous remarks and activities, that is a concern to me. Jaent so how difficult is it , going to be for a republican like baker . Mary anne i think it is hard to be governor of massachusetts and the switzerland at the same time. I think that is what baker was during this campaign. He has ceded his authority to bring the state together. Over 60 of massachusetts voted for hillary cut in. 30 voted for trump. Moving forward and why some a democrats have jumped at him more than they have. Ginny donald trump won the primary here. Some of his base are trump voters. The vast majority of the blue states that flipped out the kind of people Charlie Baker represents fighting for working people, fighting for jobs, and he wants to get president elect trump a chance. Mary anne purgatory was too political and that advice. Jaent democrats have a new party leader, gus bickford. Hes ready to give the governor a run for his money in 2018. Any advice for him . Ginny . Ginny i dont know. Take a nap. [laughter] ginny i think it is going to be a tough pill to flog there. Jaent issue right . Mary anne no. Charlie baker only won by 40,000 a way to go after him. Ed robert kraft went to see donald trump. Was he just congratulating them question mark congratulating him congratulating him . Mary anne if you are a fan, and your quebec supported him ginny it is someone that is out of touch. Donald trump won the election. Three reasonable, tell the people supported him. Mary anne if you are anything other than a white man, you werent happy with the election. Ginny i was happy with it. Ed of course there will be a lot of things that table because seldom ac has been allowed release, but after the the 2016 season, who should be told to sit at the kids table this year . Mary anne the 16 republicans that ran against donald trump in the primary. Hillary clinton showed how lame they were. They won every president ial candidates as well. Ginny the antitrump protesters after the election many of whom did not even vote, we found out, of those who got arrested in portland, oregon, ginny mike pence will be a gravitas figure with a lot of standing. Mary anne president obama, who campaigned for him to come in and is trying to do the transition. Ed i love that picture. One was that picture taken . Mary anne he was young helping job even though trump questioned his citizenship and try to delegitimize the first africanamerican president. Fios is not cable. 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Journey from somalia to the state house. How this young lawmaker rose from refugee to representative. But first, the Supreme Court under a trump administration. Im soledad obrien. Welcome to matter of fact. . Soledad Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg said it plainly enough,