Choice on who will become the republican and democratic nominee. Joining us today is james jennings, professor of emeritus cap tufts university, aaron o brien, professor of Political Science at humid boston, and paul weston on d, director of the institute for Asian American studies at the college of liberal arts also at umass boston. Let s jump right in. We have already seen the results in New Hampshire and iowa , but i wonder, these states are predominately white. Should they, in today s world, have so much influence, and immediate attention that comes along with it, in terms of picking president ial nominees . Should they . The answer is no. Do they . New hampshire and iowa is the American Election process on speed. The general election would set up a voting rules to discourage communities of color from voting. Iowa and New Hampshire put that on further display. Interest groups have undue influence. It is wildly unrepresentative, but it mirrors the way in which the general election is also wildly unrepresentative. Unrepresentative is the nature in which their electorate to drive the agenda. I am all in favor of looking and corn subsidies and hog futures, discussion i thought we were going to have in this election two years after ferguson, for example, was about Race Relations in the u. S. Immigrants. These are two states that are the extent to which the nature of the electorate drive the conversation is the concern about these states having this oversized influence. I don t think it will change anytime soon. I agree with both comments. Is momentum built for candidates appealing to these constituencies, but as we see now, race is on the table. So we have a counterbalance to these states being so early on. And the republicans may not still being to talk about race and class but they will talk about immigration. Certainly, the Democratic Party cannot, given super tuesday. Karen so the first in the nation status is kind of set in stone, is there an opportunity in future years to change the order of the primaries . In New Hampshire, it is the law. Most have been unwilling to they did move it forward, but it forward. We could have New Hampshire two are not careful. Karen so do these victories in iowa and New Hampshire mean anything, in terms of the final voter turnout . Next is South Carolina which has a large black population and we see the conversation shifting two different issues, which may be more representative of the kinds of conversations they are happening around the nation. The conversation is taking place in a different context. As we move toward super tuesday, it is now a national conversation, no longer a retail conversation, like you saw in iowa, South Carolina. To the extent it is a national conversation, it will lose some of the flavor that you saw. Hopefully, that national whole range of issues we are talking about that are of interest to people of color and women in the u. S. Karen who will we see at the polls on march 1 . I think the electorate is so separate today, in a sense, we will see different blocks. Certainly, africanamericans, latinos in growing numbers, disaffected whites, liberal whites, whites who present representing the Republican Party elite. Turnout will be very high so much tension and divisiveness. I disagree, i think turnout will be a borat. I think it will be incredibly low. You have to be wanting to sit at this table to turn out on super tuesday. Those that turn out our Political Animals. The story for me on super americans do not hope. To your in communities of color and low income people. Yet again, the way we elect this president does not speak to that median american but to a Political Animal that is wider and more conservative. S talk about some of the candidates on the ballot. Hillary clinton, who is considered the presumptive nominee for the democrats. What appeal does she have on both sides, republican, democrat, voters of color . I would just like to add, i am not convinced that Hillary Clinton will walk away with the africanamerican vote. She will probably do well, of course, but if Bernie Sanders stays in the raise and this process, his message will resonate with a lot of people in the africanamerican community. Already we see some divisions, the historic black caucus supporting Hillary Clinton, and then you have people like cornell west and spike lee endorsing Bernie Sanders. The longer this goes, we will see a split in africanamerican communities in different states. Karen of course, the black vote is not a monolith. This past week, donald trump won in nevada with a large percentage of the latino vote. But it was a small percentage of the people that actually participated, less than 9 in the caucus. The population overall is significantly higher than that. I do think Bernie Sanders has a challenge. I think his message focuses on compelling one. Talking about class and race. It to the broader issue of race we could solve the income inequality problem tomorrow, and race. That could broaden his population. I agree, Bernie Sanders definitely has to explain how race is in judah with his focus on economic inequality. But let s not forget this is precisely the point where Martin Luther king was in 1967 and 1968. When we look at one of his last writings, he writes where do we go from here . Race is important, but unless economic inequality, america will not move toward that goal of society. Bernie sanders ever has. The question is whether Hillary Clinton will dominate. But as to the mobilization question, those that turnout who are africanamerican will go that turnout for her will be much less than certainly barack obama, and i would argue, even past democrats in the recent era. Karen i am just fascinated, as are many in the pundit class, of trump s appeal. What is it about him that has rocketed into the top of the polls in the gop . Not only the polls, but in terms of voting, he is winning. And Bernie Sanders side to side, their message is almost the same. People who feel left out of the democratic process as they see it. People who want to respond to an establishment not responding to them. They are looking at it from different polls, but in some ways the message is the same. While both candidates want to claim the democratic spirit is one that is holy in their particular camp, the challenge is there opposing tendencies. This has captured itself in the nation as a whole and they found two candidates who can speak for these opposing poles. With donald trump, the excitement, everything else, i also think there is a lack in confidence with the government. If you think it does not matter, does not stand for you, then a celebrity and Reality Television guy makes sense. This longstanding trend of denigrating the role of services some of us get to government. Donald trump operates on top of that. You have to have a disregard for government to think that a reality tv star can do it him. I have a question. I wonder if we are seeing the system in this country. As trump challenges the republican elite, and we do not know where that will go, and Bernie Sanders challenging Democratic Party neoliberalism, i wonder where these people will go, if they do not win at the end of the day . Is the republican going to look going to look like and what is look like . Karen we will be talking about ticket, and then also we would be talking about massachusetts. Discussion talking about super tuesday. Massachusetts, along with 11 others, will make their choice for the republican and democratic nominees. Joining us is james, aaron, and paul. One of the things i m struck by is the diversity on the gop side , in terms of having two latinos and an africanamerican as part of the next. Rubio and cruz, even know they don t heavily identify with the latin american community, nonetheless that is a good point, but the other point you made is even more important. Communities, these are not candidates that have sought to make inroads in those communities. I don t even know if they describe themselves as latino, but hispanic. With the ben carson, yes, he is africanamerican, but i do not think that necessarily points to greater openness on the part of the Republican Party to what we hear around this table may mean karen i was puzzled by his comments that president obama was not black enough, did he say . He is almost the antiblack black candidate when you look at his comments, perhaps indicating that president obama was not black enough, arguing at the same time later in the interview, that ben carson had been fairly attacked unfairly enough. So he is lobbying the same criticism at the president which he is arguing should not be aimed at him. To james this point, black america, latino america, people of color in the u. S. Are a lot smarter than the notion that they will just vote for somebody because of the color of their skin. They will look at their positions. To that extent, rubio, carson, and cruz are not where a lot of and this was a switch from the beginning of their campaigns. After 2012, republican said we have to make inroads with latinos and latinos. They ran originally with much strength of being a latino candidate. But oncemmigration came on the agenda, especially the way donald trump came on the agenda, they went in reverse on playing they would support latinos. So what was seen as an advantage coming in, they are just not using at all, and running from. Donald trump has shaken up the whole process. Segment, is massachusetts politically there will be typical turnout if we think about 2008, 2012, even with Deval Patrick at the top. Bernie sanders and Hillary Clinton are acceptable candidates to most mainland communities, democratic communities, but in terms of that excitement factor, that it is important to turnout for this voters, black voters, there is not a one to one. But when they speak to their experience and they have policy positions that understand where they are rooted, ways that could be helped, they could turn out. Political engagement is across the board lower amongst democrats right now. There is not the same kind of excitement. Even more so for communities of color. Africanamericans over performed at the polls in 2012. Percentage than whites and without barack obama at the top and the truth standardbearer karen , i don t see it happening. Karen what are some of the issues that we have not heard either candidate talk about that would energize people of color and their voting base . We have some here in boston but i m sure other places it is reflected with large majorities of black and latino people. Economic unfairness. Former state senator Diane Wilkinson started a discussion around looking at who is getting economic contracts and who is not. Latino community and in the Asian Community around gentrification and displacement. About displacement, economic democracy. This is still an issue with the terminal Justice System. Draconian treatment of people of color as far as the Justice System is concerned, but very little talk. A journalist, kevin peterson, a few weeks ago wrote an editorial that even in the massachusetts Democratic Party, he that they had not even put these issues on the table. The rules of registration, are so arcane. There will be a lot of people finally getting tuned into the election and cannot participate because of the fact that they would ve had to register 20 days in advance of the election. There will be a lot of people who are now finally excited and want to participate and we ll find out they are not registered to vote. That is an issue that particularly affects low income and communities of color, and that is part of the agenda we should be having in the states karen we are back with james brien, and paul watanabe. Let s hear your predictions for super tuesday. I will be going big care. On the democratic side, i think bernie takes vermont, massachusetts, minnesota, and hillary takes every other state. Republican side. Except to the point that bernie will do better. Voting, so he will get some delegates regardless. And you are correct, this is super tuesday, but we have about 30 states to go. On that point, bernie delegates, maybe not as much as hillary, has additional burden in the superdelegates. Karen what is the difference between delegates and superdelegates . Delegates are supporters in official positions, addon delegates, unpledged delegates, but the belief is most of those clinton. Nomination . You cannot. There are several things at stake there. The point is, many of these will be winner take all. , and take all of the delegates. It will make smoother sailing for him as we move forward. Karen cruz thinks he will do well in texas where there are 155 delegates, but it is proportional. If he does not do well in texas, that may not bode well for him moving on. Florida winner take all, march 15. Rubio is hoping to do well. But it is getting to florida. My colleagues are correct, especially with proportional allocation of these delegates. There is a numbers game, which is a real one, and then there is you are hurting the party, he is inevitable if you are the candidate that lost, you are putting the numbers game but you are also fighting that inevitability game. Karen editorial, here is how you stop trump. They want carson, john kasich, rubio, or cruz to drop stopping trump. Is that a realistic plan . I described that editorial to another person as extraordinary. Reactive strategies. I don against trump. One possible scenario for a stop trump strategy. Everyone votes for him, assuming that the democrats will end up winning. A lot of Strategic Thinking taking place. Karen assuming donald trump does move on to get the gop nomination, and assuming hillary what kind of a final Election Campaign will that be . One for the ages. Negatives, quite frankly. Two paul s democrats, it feels like donald trump is beautiful, but many believe that hillary is visceral and turnout is an issue. A lot of what we know from Political Science, social race. Even who wanted a democrat to win, donald trump may be the long term but there is a real risk involved. You are seeing push back among republicans saying this guy cannot be our standardbearer. We may have to use some of these tactics. We have to say this guy would set us back. Karen it would be an interesting debate style. Hillary, more of the classic debater, and donald trump, the punch and run debater. On your premise about hillary being the most problematic, not trump, who would have ever predicted that . Democrats who bore the idea of hillary having competition may be happy in the end that there is an alternative. There is lots going on that could touch hillary in the courts and other areas. Should that alternative have to be moved forward. Karen you are talking about the fbi, emails, the transcripts, etc. She is the poison you know. By and large, new things will not change her mind about her. You have known her for 25 years, and that comes with problems, certainly. It seems to me trust is becoming so important. That is one of the reasons donald trump is doing well. Certain parts of the electric trust donald trump. Karen it is a very interesting election season. We thank you for joining us for giving us a super tuesday preview. We will come back in a couple of weeks as we get closer. We want you to join in on the conversation on our twitter and make sure to go to the polls and vote on super tuesday. Thank you for watching, everyone. Have a great rest of your day. Take care. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its homecoming . It s awesome. But with the Citizens Bank education refinance loan, it gets even better. You know those people who pay a little extra and get all the legroom in coach . That could be you, your Student Loans. P yes, you could replace your current Student Loans rwith one new loan and save money on interest. 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