Advisor, Cardinal Sean omalley. In st. Peters square, he stands out in his humble brown robe and sandals, and stays with the pope that means youre roommates with the pope. Well, yes, you see him at all the meals. Odonnell you knew him before. I mean, did you know that he would be this kind of a leader . I am delighted that he is beyond my expectations. Cooper our lives are filled with distractions email, twitter, texting. Were constantly connected to technology, which is probably why theres a growing movement in america to train people to get around the stresses of daily life. There are a lot of different ways to talk about mindfulness, but what it really means is awareness. Cooper is it being present . It is being present. Thats exactly what it is. Cooper i dont feel im very present. I feel like, every moment, im either thinking about something something thats been in the past. So, ultimately, all of this preparing is for what . Were only alive now. Kroft im steve kroft. 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And as we first reported last april, not much can be done about it. In some ways, its another milestone in the cyber wars, which are just beginning to heat up, not cool down. The cyber attack on Sony Pictures entertainment exposed a new reality that you dont have to be a superpower to inflict damage on u. S. Corporations, a fact that has been duly noted within Corporate Board rooms and the National Security apparatus. Whats the significance of the sony hack in a nutshell . James lewis the significance is that a foreign power has reached out and touched an american target. The fact that the north korean government felt that it could do something in the United States and get away with it, thats whats significant. Kroft james lewis, a director at the center for strategic and International Studies in washington, has helped shape u. S. Cyber policy for decades, dealing with criminals stealing money, russians stealing intelligence, and the chinese stealing the latest technology. Lewis this was different, because it qualified as the use of force. It qualified as an attack. There was disruption. There was destruction of data. There was an intent to hurt the company. Kroft and it succeeded, bringing a major u. S. Entertainment company to its knees. Like other corporate victims of Cyber Attacks, sony has released very Little Information and declined our requests for interviews. We were allowed to film on sonys 44acre studio lot, and inside this building where technicians were still repairing damaged computers. We do know that when people fired up their computers on the morning of november 24, they were greeted with this skeletal image now referred to as the screen of death. It announced an undetected cyber attack that actually began weeks earlier, when a malicious piece of software began stealing vast amounts of data from the sony computer network. Now, it had begun the job of wiping sonys corporate files. Kevin mandia it was the attacker saying, im going to delete what youve made. Im going to destroy your stuff. Kroft kevin mandia is one of the best known cyber sleuths in the u. S. , and his company, fire eye, was hired by sony to respond immediately to the crisis. But there was only so much they could do. Mandia for lack of a better analogy, the wiping is the grand finale. Thats the infamous, we ran into the house, we took what we wanted, and then we left the detonation charge behind us. And then that detonation charge goes off youre not going back to the house anymore. Kroft and thats what happened . Mandia thats what happened. Kroft more than 3,000 computers and 800 servers were they had made off with mountains of business secrets, several unreleased movies, unfinished scripts, and the personal records of 6,000 employees, all of whom were given a taste of living offline. Sony made the decision to take itself off the grid. All connections to the internet, all connections to the rest of sony, and all connections to third parties were shut off, effectively disconnecting an International Corporation from the outside world, and plunging itself into a predigital age of landline telephones and hand delivered messages written with pen and paper. Mandia immediately, employees start to remember the things they took for granted does the gate let you in the garage . You cant get your email. Peoples benefits cant be processed appropriately, time cards cant be done. What if payrolls the next day . There are so many things that depend on the internet that, quite frankly, most companies dont even know all of them. So they come off the internet and go, oh, wow, didnt see that coming. Kroft to kevin mandia, it looked like a militarystyle operation mounted by a foreign government. And when his Company Began comparing the sony computer virus with the 500 million pieces of malware in its archives, it quickly came up with a nearly identical match, right down to the skull on the calling card. It was a cyber attack two years ago against south koreas banks and broadcast networks called dark seoul that wiped out 40,000 computers and caused 700 million in damage. Mandia we had the malware from the attacks that happened in south korea in 2013. And these things, when put side by side, this looks like whoever hacked south korea in 2013 is hacking sony. And the attribution in those attacks in 2013 was to north korea. Kroft mandias suspicions about north korea, which has a wellestablished cyber capability and a long history of attacking its neighbor, were soon confirmed by the nsa, the fbi, and the white house. And the attackers themselves hinted at it when they contacted matt zeitlin of buzzfeed. Com, and at least a halfadozen other online reporters, offering them everything they had stolen from sony. So this is the first email you got . Matt zeitlin yep. The weekend after thanksgiving. You know, it says that it has all this data from sony. And it has all these links, so that we could download the information. Kroft what followed from zeitlin and others was two weeks of damaging, embarrassing stories from the corporate files and private emails of sony executives, as well as threats and a specific demand from the attackers that sony not release its comedy about the assassination of north Korean Leader kim jongun. They hate us because they aint us laughs kroft soon, all the world will see what an awful movie Sony Pictures entertainment has made. Zeitlin that part may have been true. laughs mandia sony scares ceos, right . I mean, thats the difference. Every ceo is Walking Around going, how do i feel if my emails out on the internet . How would i feel if my machines got disrupted . So all of a sudden, every chief Information Security officer is now talking to their board, because every board wants to know, hey, is this the new normal . Kroft and it may well be. Kevin mandia says even big corporations with sophisticated i. T. Departments are no match for the dozens of countries that now have offensive cyberwar capabilities. Mandia all advantage goes to the offense in cyber. It just does. On the defensive side, you have to say, i must defend all 100,000 machines, all 50,000 employees. The offensive side thinks, i only need to break into one and im on the inside. Kroft and any company or any corporation is as strong as its weakest link. Mandia in a way, yes, in security. The nationstate threat actors, or hackers, target human weakness, not system weakness. Kroft and theres no shortage of weaknesses. Most Company Employees are allowed to browse online or visit facebook on corporate computers. And many take them home for personal use. All it takes to contaminate a network is for one person to file that looks realistic, like an adobe flash player update or an email that pretends to be from apple support. And then what happens when they click on them . Mandia they compromise their machine. And now that machine, being on the inside of a corporate network, can be used as a kroft and thats what happened at sony. Eventually, the North Koreans were able to obtain the passwords and credentials of the companys Computer System administrators and build them right into the malware that carried out the attack. With help from anybody . Mandia you know, anythings possible. I simply dont know. Kroft how sophisticated was the malware that they used . Was this brandnew stuff . Mandia it was sophisticated enough that it works on the vast majority of companies. You know, the f. B. I. Is quoted as saying this would work at over 90 of the companies that they deal with. Kroft if you want to talk about stateoftheart hacking or whats going on in the International Cyber arms market, jon millers a good place to start. He turned down a job with the nsa and a government car while because he says he was already making more money doing private consulting work and honing his skills as a penetration tester. So youre a hacker . Jon miller i was. Now, im, you know, a Computer Security professional. But yeah, i mean, for the majority of my career, i was an ethical hacker, where i would actually go out and hack companies, and then work with them to make sure they didnt get hacked by somebody else. Kroft since miller says hes been well paid to hack into Nuclear Power plants by utility companies, we wanted to know what he thought about the sony attack and the malware the North Koreans used to pull it off. If i set you down and gave you a pencil and paper and said, write a list of a dozen people that could do this. Miller oh, yeah, i mean, there are way more than a dozen people. There are probably 3,000, 4,000, 5,000 people that could do that attack today. Kroft and not all of them are in friendly countries. Miller no, not all of them and the number is growing rapidly. Kroft i mean, its certainly within the realm of possibility that a terrorist group could go out and put together a team and do some real damage. Miller i mean, isis hacked centcoms twitter. The barrier to entry is low. Kroft millers previous job was leading a Research Team for a company that made and sold offensive Cyber Weapons to the u. S. Government. He is currently a Vice President of cylance, a company that makes nextgeneration Antivirus Software for banks and fortune 500 companies. Its currently marketing a product it claims would have detected and stopped the sony hack while it was in progress. How sophisticated was this attack . Miller not very. When you look at it in contrast to the capabilities that the United States government are deploying, it is nowhere close to being sophisticated. My favorite analogy is the malware that was used to hack sony is like a moped, and the malware being deployed by United States intelligence agencies is its much more sophisticated, its much harder to detect. Kroft and yet still, if this is a moped, there were only a handful of companies in the United States that would have been able to survive this attack. Miller and that really is the scary part is it does not take an overly sophisticated attack to compromise these huge global multinational brands. Kroft miller says there have been other major Cyber Attacks like the one against sony, but they didnt get as much attention. In 2012, iran was blamed for an attack against the headquarters of saudi arabias national oil company, aramco, that destroyed 30,000 computers. Iran has also been accused of a cyber assault against a group of casinos owned by sheldon adleson, a vocal enemy of the regime in tehran. And there have been others. Miller ive worked with companies before in the oil and gas space that have had control System Networks get compromised by malware, and theyve lost control of their floating oil platforms. Kroft i dont remember reading about that. Miller yeah, yeah. No, you didnt read about it. No customer information got leaked. More often than the public knows . Miller absolutely. Kroft there is a lot the public doesnt know about, including an active international underground market in Cyber Weapons like the one that was used to take downs sonys computers. Miller took us to a site on the dark web where you can buy them. Miller this is actually a list of black market exploits that i was contacted from a russian hacker that he was trying to sell, and his price, right, so. Kroft what does this one do, flash player . Miller this is a vulnerability in that software that would allow someone to take over control of your computer. Kroft 39,000. 29,000, 39,000. Miller yeah, majority of them are over 30,000. Kroft thats 30,000 payable in bitcoin, the Virtual Currency of choice on the dark web. Miller for the most part, the internet is completely unregulated. Its the wild west; it truly, truly is the wild west right now. What were seeing are people getting pulled out onto the street and shot, and its like, wheres the sheriff . Theres no sheriff. Kroft james lewis of the center for strategic and International Studies knows better than most that there are no easy solutions. He says the u. S. Can deter catastrophic Cyber Attacks from china and russia by responding in kind. But how do you respond to a rogue state like north korea for an attack against major corporations like sony. Lewis turning off the lights in north korea, no one would notice. It happens all the time, right . Going after a north korean movie studio, it would probably be a relief for the people there. The only Pressure Point we really have is going after the leadership, going after the Revenue Streams coming to the leadership. Kroft and thats what the Obama Administration has done, at least publicly. Lewis and others believe that it will take a technological breakthrough in cyberwarfare technology created, but that could take years. Legislation forcing companies to improve Cyber Security has gone nowhere. Lewis well, theres a reluctance in the congress to force companies to do anything. The administration shares that reluctance. We were lucky until this year. Hopefully, well be a little luckier for a bit longer. Kroft in the time being, keep your fingers crossed. Lewis i used to say that the u. S. Had a faithbased defense, when it came to Cyber Security. Because we had faith that the people who didnt like us werent going to do anything bad. Thats what sony has changed is that we had somebody who doesnt like us step out and say, how far can i go with the americans . And thats where faith isnt enough. Cbs money watch update sponsored by lincoln financial, calling all chief life officers. Glor good evening. The slumping stock markets are closed tomorrow for labor day. Rebekah brooks returns as c. E. O. Of newscorps british papers tomorrow after being acquitted in a phone hacking scandal. And wednesday apple is expected to unveil its new iphone and odonnell as catholics prepare for pope francis first visit to the United States later this month, it seems a good time to take another look at his closest american advisor, Cardinal Sean omalley. The pope has appointed the shy franciscan friar president of the churchs crucial commission to combat child abuse, and named him a member of the council of cardinals, the popes small Kitchen Cabinet charged with helping redraw the way the church is governed. Softspoken and unassuming, he is usually dressed in the brown habit of his capuchin franciscan order and not in a cardinals red robes. He goes by Cardinal Sean, and like pope francis, he is more inclined to conversation than condemnation. As we first reported last fall, he commutes to rome from his day job as archbishop of boston to help francis remake an ancient institution. Sean omalley its a very different world now, because of his style. Odonnell part of that style includes the popes reliance on advisors like Cardinal Sean omalley. Omalley not only works closely with the pope, but stays with him at the vatican guesthouse when he comes to rome on business. When you come here to rome, you stay at the Domus Sanctae marthae, which is just right over there. Omalley yes, ordinarily. Yeah. Odonnell that means youre roommates with the pope. Omalley well, yes, you see very often will go and celebrate mass with him in the morning. And. And we have our meetings right there. Odonnell Cardinal Omalley and thencardinal Jorge Bergoglio of buenos aires became fast friends when the boston archbishop visited argentina on Church Business in 2010. If you want to understand pope francis, youd do well to look at Cardinal Omalley. You knew him before. I mean, did you know that he omalley i knew that he would be different. I am delighted that he is beyond my expectations. Odonnell both share the same outlook open, non judgmental, given to simple living, and not afraid to consider change. One change is the popes recognition that child abuse is a churchwide problem that can no longer be ignored or covered up by bishops. Omalley has more experience than any bishop in the church child abuse. And pope francis turned to him to lead a new Child Protection commission for the entire church. Omalley well, its something that i brought to the commission of cardinals, and weve talked about it. And the cardinals were very, very supportive. And the holy father, hes a great listener. Odonnell has the vatican resisted it in the past . Omalley i think even here, particularly in the past, there was the feeling that this was an american problem. Odonnell but is there a recognition inside the vatican that this is intolerable. Omalley certainly, the holy father is very, very aware of that, and very committed to zero tolerance and responding in a proper way to this phenomenon of child abuse. Odonnell despite his office and influence in rome, Cardinal Omalley is a modest man, reluctant to put himself he is humble, a true franciscan, who would rather be addressed as Cardinal Sean than your eminence. It took more than a year to convince him to agree to an interview. But he is so approachable, you can talk with him about nearly anything. Now, your shoes look a lot more comfortable than mine. Omalley laughs well, 50 years of wearing sandals, you. Odonnell well, do you ever have to wear closedtoe shoes . Omalley well, when. When im disguised as a cardinal. Odonnell yes. Omalley which isnt very often. Odonnell his reputation for cleaning up the church began when he was installed as bishop of fall river, massachusetts, where omalley inherited one of the most notorious child abuse cases in history. Instead of lawyering up, omalley began reaching out directly to victims, settling cases and acting as a pastor, not a c. E. O. His success led to a transfer to palm beach, where the previous two bishops resigned after accusations of abuse. Then, in 2002, the vatican sent him to boston. Were you worried . Omalley yes. Terrified. Odonnell terrified because the archdiocese of boston, the onetime symbol of american catholicism, was dissolving, thanks to what was then the biggest sex abuse scandal in church history. Omalley there were a thousand lawsuits against us. The seminary was empty. As i say, such anger, disappointment, upset on the part of the people. Odonnell this was a pretty tough assignment . Omalley it was. Somebody described it as a fixerupper. laughter odonnell and he began fixing it up on his first day on the job, 11 years ago, by doing something bishops seldom do admitting what had happened and apologizing for it. Omalley at the beginning of this installation ceremony, i again ask forgiveness for all the harm done to young people by clergy, religious, and hierarchy. Odonnell sean omalley set a new tone in boston. The first thing he did was sell the palatial archbishops residence and the 28 sprawling acres it sat on. Omalley the archbishops residence was more house than. Than i needed. Odonnell did you realize how big an impact it would have . Omalley well, i knew it would have an Economic Impact on the diocese. And at the time, i was very grateful that we had this mansion to unload and. Because we sold it for over 100 million. Odonnell omalley moved into the modest cathedral rectory. He has a deep devotion to working with the poor, particularly immigrants, and is a prominent voice in any of eight languages in the Catholic Churchs call for immigration reform. Last year, he led a mass at the even distributing communion through the fence to call attention to the problem and the churchs position on reform. The pope, who has been a strong voice for immigrant rights, called it a powerful picture. But it is omalleys work to reform the church on child abuse where he has made the biggest impact. For many people outside the church and inside the church, the biggest scandal isnt the predators, its the bishops the bishops who protected them and lied about them and moved them from parish to parish. And many of these predators have been prosecuted, but the bishops have not. Why is that . Omalley one of the first things that came up is the importance of accountability. And were looking at how the church could have protocols, how to respond when a bishop has not been responsible for the protection of children in his diocese. Odonnell i want to ask you about robert finn, who is the bishop of kansas city st. Joseph and, as you know, he pleaded guilty to a criminal misdemeanor for not reporting one of his priests to authorities. Bishop finn wouldnt be able to Teach Sunday School in boston. Omalley thats right. Odonnell how is that zero tolerance that hes still in place . What does it say to catholics . Omalley well, its. Its a question that the holy see needs to address urgently. Odonnell and theres a recognition . Omalley theres a recognition of that. Odonnell from pope francis . Omalley from pope francis. Odonnell the cardinals careful candor isnt limited to the churchs mishandling of abuse. Take the Vatican Doctrine Offices crackdown on american nuns for focusing more on social justice than issues like abortion and contraception, placing the nuns under the supervision of three bishops. It looked like a crackdown from men at the vatican on. Omalley a disaster. Odonnell a disaster . Omalley disaster. Odonnell should there be more women in positions of power in the curia . Omalley yes, i think there should be. And hopefully, there will be. Odonnell when . Omalley well, that. I cant tell you what time, but hopefully, soon. Odonnell so far, there is little in the way of concrete change, but Cardinal Omalley spends one week every other month in rome. Otherwise, he and the pope stay in contact using a technology that seems almost as dated as illuminated manuscripts. Omalley usually, the. We fax. Odonnell really . Omalley yes. Odonnell you fax with the pope . Omalley yes. Odonnell people still communicate by fax . Omalley still communicate by fax. Or. Omalley uhhuh. Odonnell really . Omalley oh. Very quick and efficient, and. And a little more private than. Odonnell really . Most people think. Omalley safer. Odonnell oh, really . Omalley uhhuh. Odonnell most people think texting is quicker than faxing. I arent about texting. laughter odonnell his choice of Communication Technology is not the only thing conservative about him. Church traditionalists accuse him of being a closet liberal for participating in Ecumenical Services and presiding at the funeral of abortion rights supporter ted kennedy. But the cardinal is a hardliner on catholic doctrine. Like pope francis, he upholds traditional positions on abortion, gay marriage, birth control, and womens ordination. The church says its not open to discussion about ordaining women. Why not . Needs to be ordained to. To have an Important Role in the life of the church. Women run the catholic charities, the catholic schools, the Development Office for the archdiocese. Odonnell some would say women do a lot of the work, but have very little power. Omalley well, power is not a word that we like to use in the church. Its more service. Odonnell but they cant preach. They cant administer the sacraments. Omalley well. Odonnell i mean, some women feel like theyre secondclass catholics because they cant do those things that are very important. Omalley well, they. But theyre. They have other very Important Roles that, you know, are. A priest cannot be a mother, either. The tradition of the church is that we have always ordained men, and that the priesthood reflects the incarnation of christ who, in his humanity, is a man. Odonnell but in spite of that, does the exclusion of women seem at all immoral . Omalley well, christ would never ask us to do something immoral. Odonnell the sense of equality. I mean, just the sense of sort of the fairness of it, you know. You wouldnt exclude someone based on race, but yet you do exclude people based on gender. Omalley well, its a matter of vocation, and what god has given to us. And this is. You know, if i were founding a church, you know, id love to have women priests. What he has given us is something different. Odonnell but god is not afraid of change, as pope francis has told his bishops, and Cardinal Omalley is thrilled with his old friend. Omalley i always had admiration for him, but to see how he has made this extraordinary impact on the church is so gratifying. Odonnell and will change the future of this church. Omalley theres no doubt. Odonnell since we first aired this story last november, Bishop Robert finn of kansas city st. Joseph, whom Cardinal Omalley agreed wouldnt be allowed to Teach Sunday School in boston, has resigned. The Vatican Doctrine Office has ended its direct oversight of american nuns, and the pope has approved new procedures, drawn up by omalleys commission, to remove bishops who fail to priests. Layover. 24 hours. Hello, reykjavik. 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Were constantly connected to technology, rarely alone with just our thoughts, which is probably why theres a growing movement in america to train people to get around the stresses of daily life. Its a practice called mindfulness, and it basically means being aware of your thoughts, physical sensations, and surroundings. As we first reported last winter, the man whos largely responsible for mindfulness gaining traction is jon kabat zinn. He thinks mindfulness is the answer for people who are so overwhelmed by life, they feel they arent really living at all. Jon kabatzinn there are a lot of different ways to talk about mindfulness, but what it really means is awareness. Cooper is it being present . Kabatzinn it is being present. Thats exactly what it is. Cooper i dont feel im very present in each moment. I feel like, every moment, im either thinking about something thats coming down the road, or something thats been in the past. Kabatzinn so, ultimately, all this preparing is for what . For the next moment, like the last moment, like, and then were dead. laughs so, in a certain way. Cooper oh, god, this is depressing. Kabatzinn are we going to experience while were still alive . Were only alive now. Cooper Jon Kabatzinn, is an m. I. T. Trained scientist whos been practicing mindfulness for 47 years. Back in 1979, he started teaching mindfulness through meditation to people suffering from chronic pain and illness. That program is now used in more than 700 hospitals worldwide. So, how can you be mindful in your daily life . Kabatzinn when your alarm goes off and you jump out of bed, what is the nature of the mind in that moment . Are you already like, oh, my god, your calendar pops into your mind and youre driven already, or can you take a moment and just lie in bed and just feel your body breathing. New day and im still alive. So, i get out of bed with awareness, brush my teeth with awareness. When youre in the shower next time, check and see if youre in the shower. Cooper what do you mean, check and see if youre in the shower . Kabatzinn well, you may not be. You may be in your first meeting at work. You may have 50 people in the shower with you. Cooper kabatzinn says mindfulness takes practice. A lot of people start with a training class to learn how to meditate. He agreed to teach us at a weekend retreat on a remote mountaintop in northern california. When we arrived, we were told there would be no television to watch, no internet, not even an alarm clock. Tim ryan so, im checking in. Cooper the retreat was full of professionals neuroscientists, business leaders, Silicon Valley executives. Before we began, we all had to surrender our last ties to the outside world. Kabatzinn put your devices in the basket. Im contributing my macbook air and my iphone, happily. Happy to give up my phone. I usually check emails several times an hour. bell rings kabatzinn so lets take a few minutes and just settle into an erect and dignified posture. Cooper the retreat lasted three days, and most of that time was spent just sitting there, silently meditating, with occasional guidance from kabat zinn. Kabatzinn theres no place to go. Theres nothing to do. Were just asking you to sit and know that you are sitting. Cooper knowing that youre sitting may sound simple. Turns out, its not. The mind constantly wanders. Kabatzinn the mind has a life of its own. It goes here and there. Cooper to not get lost in thought, kabatzinn recommended focusing on the sensation of breathing in and out. Kabatzinn can we actually waves of the breath at the belly, at the nostrils and the chest. And then, simply rest here in awareness. Cooper resting in awareness is one of those phrases used a lot by people who practice mindfulness. But when i tried to do it, it wasnt restful and i worried i wasnt doing it right. I kept thinking about work. I miss my cell phone. laughter im having a little withdrawal, i must say. Kabatzinn, who has written ten books on mindfulness and led nearly 100 retreats, describes meditation as a mental workout. Kabatzinn the mind wanders away from the breath, and then you gently and nonjudgmentally just bring it back. Cooper so, its okay that the mind drifts away, but you just bring it back. Kabatzinn its the nature of the mind to drift away. The mind is like the pacific ocean, it waves. And mindfulness has been shown to drop underneath the waves. If you drop underneath the agitation in the mind into your breath deep enough calmness, gentle undulations. Cooper after hours of meditating in 30minute sessions, it does get easier. Those waves of thought kabat zinn described theyre still there, but you get less distracted by them. At breakfast, we spent time relearning some of the very basic things in life, including how to eat food. Eating a meal in complete silence is a little awkward, but without conversation as a distraction, you taste more and eat less. This is something called walking meditation. The goal is to learn to be aware of each and every movement and feeling. I know it seems ridiculous, but it does change the way you experience walking. Kabatzinn the zen people from ancient china when youre walking, just walk. It turns out to be the hardest thing. Cooper thats an ancient saying . Kabatzinn when youre walking, just walk. When youre eating, just eat not in front of the tv, not with the newspaper. Cooper congressman tim ryan, an ohio democrat, says mindfulness might look a lot like nothing, but he really believes it can change america for the better. He attended his first meditation retreat in 2008, just days after winning a grueling reelection campaign. But being mindful at a retreat is one thing. We wondered if, back in washington, congressman ryan ever worries about how all this looks. Ryan well, you know, i can see myself in high school going, whoa, stay away from those guys. laughter cooper so, how do you use it here on capitol hill . Ryan im on the budget committee, for example. Theres a lot of conflict, and people say things that get you ramped up. I find myself, as my body clenches up when somebody says something that i know is wrong or i. I want to catch them in a lie or whatever, that just, calm down. When its your turn, you make your point. Hey, man. Cooper you dont hear the words calm and congress together very often, but ryan is trying to change that. He hosts weekly meditation staff of both parties. Now, shifting the attention to take in the entire body. Cooper have you gotten any republican congressmen in to meditate with you yet . Ryan no. laughs were working on it. Cooper hes written a book about mindfulness, and obtained a Million Dollars of federal funding to teach it to School Children in his ohio district. I feel like we are calm right now. Ryan yes, you are. Ive seen it transform classrooms. Ive seen it heal veterans. Ive seen what it does to individuals who have really high chronic levels of stress, and how it has helped their body heal itself. I wouldnt be willing to stick my neck out this far if i didnt think this is the thing that can really help shift the country. Cooper to some people, though, this may sound like kind of newage gobbledygook . Kabatzinn theres so many different compelling studies that are showing that this not this is potentially transformative of our health and wellbeing, psychologically, as well as physically. It can be useful for anxiety, depression, stress reduction. Cooper there have been a number of studies that show mindfulness can lead to those benefits, as well as improvements in memory and attention. And at the university of massachusetts, judson brewer, a psychiatrist and neuroscientist, uses mindfulness to treat addiction. Judson brewer this is just the next generation of exercise. Weve got the physical, you know, exercise components down. And now, its about working out how can we actually train our minds. Cooper dr. Brewer is trying to understand how mindfulness can alter the functioning of the brain. He uses a cap lined with 128 electrodes. Brewer were going to start filling each of these 128 wells with conduction gel. Cooper the electrodes are able to pick up signals from the posterior cingulate, part of a Brain Network linked to memory and emotion. Brewer this is all just picking up electrical signal from the top of your head. Cooper since attending the mindfulness retreat, id been meditating daily and was curious to see if it had an impact on my brain. Brewer were going to have you start with thinking of something that was very anxiety provoking for you. Cooper okay. When i thought about something stressful, the cells in my brains posterior cingulate immediately started firing, shown by the red lines that went off the chart on the computer screen. Brewer just drop into meditation. Cooper okay. When i let go of those stressful thoughts, and refocused on my breath, within seconds, the brain cells that had been firing quieted down, shown by the blue lines on the computer. Thats really fascinating to see it like that. Dr. Brewer believes everyone can train their brains to reach that blue mindfulness zone. But he says, all the technology were surrounded by makes it difficult. Brewer if you look at people out on the street, if you look at people at restaurants, nobodys having conversations anymore. Theyre sitting at dinner looking at their phone, because their brain is so addicted to it. Cooper you really think theres something in the brain thats addicted to that . Brewer well, its the same reward pathways as addiction, absolutely. Cooper im, you know, on mobile devices all day long, and i feel like i could go through an entire day and not be present. Brewer and whats that like . Cooper its exhausting. Brewer laughs yeah, so all of this is leading to a societal exhaustion. Cooper the irony is, many of the people responsible for creating the gadgets that distract us are themselves practicing mindfulness. More than 2,000 people from Companies Like google, facebook, and instagram showed up in San Francisco for a mindfulness conference called wisdom 2. 0. Please welcome our guests. Cooper karen may is a google Vice President , and thats chademeng tan, a former engineer whos become kind of a mindfulness guru. And as could only happen at a place like google, his actual title is jolly good fellow. Chademeng tan which nobody can deny. laughter cooper so, what does a jolly good fellow do . Tan my Job Description is to enlighten minds, open hearts, and create world peace. Cooper thats your Job Description . Tan thats my Job Description. Cooper ive heard that, at some meetings at google, you actually start out with moments of silence. Karen may we do. Cooper how long do sit there quietly for . May its literally a minute or two of noticing your breathing, calming yourself down, being present. And then, youre able to go into the meeting, the business at hand, with a little bit more focus. Cooper does it make people more productive . Tan yes, it does. When the mind is unagitated, when the mind is calm, that mind is most conducive to creative problem solving. Cooper to innovate . Tan correct. And one of the powers of mindfulness is the ability to get to that frame of mind on demand. bell rings cooper so, along with their free health clubs and other company perks, google now offers their 52,000 employees free lessons in mindfulness. Tan in the middle of stress, when everything is falling apart, you can take one breath. Cooper you know, i can imagine some people rolling their eyes and saying, oh, come on, of course, at google, you guys have tons of money, and theres massage therapists Walking Around and all sorts of nice things for employees, but it just doesnt seem practical. May the advantage of this is it actually doesnt cost anything and it doesnt take much time. Cooper and you believe it really works . May i absolutely believe it works. Cooper after nearly four decades of teaching mindfulness, Jon Kabatzinn is happy to see it hitting the mainstream. But if youre starting to think mindfulness is something you should start practicing, he says you may be missing the point. Kabatzinn its not a big should. Its not like, oh, ive got to. Now, one more thing that i have to put in my life. Now, i have to be mindful. Cooper and if it becomes that one more thing they got to do after they take the yoga class . Kabatzinn they shouldnt do it. Just dont do it. Dont do it. Its not a doing at all, in fact its a being. And being doesnt take any time. Anderson cooper tells how go to 60minutesovertime. Com. Why pause a spontaneous moment to take a pill . Or stop to find a bathroom . 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