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All told, there are six moments of silence this morning, including one for the crash of flight 93 in shanksville, pennsylvania. President obama is making remarks at the pentagon and hes already observed another moment of silence at the white house. We have a lot to get to including the latest on the president ial campaign. Slew of new polls and interviews with jay johnson and one of the bush administrations supporters of the war in iraq that was prompted by the 9 11 attacks. But first, joining me now is tom brokaw who was on the air when he realized america was under attack and here we are 15 years later, president ial campaign in the backdrop. Donald trump and Hillary Clinton are both there this morning. What a difference 15 years makes. Well, it was 15 years ago it became one of the worst days in american history. It unleashed the wrong war in the wrong place. There were no weapons of mass destruction. Its been costly. 4500 americans have died in the war and a cost within the drills of dollars. The early projections will recapture all the expenses from the oil fields. We know that what we have now is a very destabilized middle east. Isis grew out of that and the consequences play out every day, not only that, chuck, it was the beginning of a lot of disarray in america, including the economic situation. 9 11 before 9 11 there was personal harbor day december 7th and i was i thinking where was america 15 years after pearl harbor . There was a sense of we won. Here we are 15 years later on 9 11 and its on going. I think that all the confusion and that distant place for the reasons that are hard for the americans to understand that culture and the political tensions that exist there have made this president ial election what it is. There is a great unsettled feeling and a lot of anger because they say wait a minute, this has not turned out the way we were told it would. We are going to be also pausing for a moment of silence in new york city for 9 03 eastern and marks the moment when flight 175 hit the south tower. [bell rings] tom, this will be the last president ial election where everybody who votes was alive during 9 11. So were now going to have to teach people what 9 11 was all about. How does that conversation go . I think part of the problem were going through right now is there is a great deal of confusion how this one has turned out and we are not only dealing with the middle east but obviously putin is a much bigger player since that time and as we saw in the last four or five days, hes entered this race and what is going on in the ukraine and crimea, all that fuels, i think, the sense of things are not what they are supposed to be. Now what we were told they were going to be. So i dont remember in my 50 years of covering president ial politics, such an unsettled time. Well deal with more of that, more on all of the fallout from 9 11, as well as the current president ial campaign throughout this hour. Earlier today i spoke with Homeland Security secretary joe johnson standing a few blocks north of the new world trade center. Let me start with a new grim poll number. The majority of americans say were less safe today than 9 11. Why do americans feel this way you think . Thats a good question, chuck. Americans have seen the attack in orlando. They have seen the attack in San Bernardino and see what is happening overseas and western europe and france and belgium and elsewhere and they are rightly concerned about our current security environment. Were safer now when it comes to another 9 11 style attack but were challenged when it comes to the prospect of the home grown violent extremists and that requires a new whole of government response and Public Participation and vehicigilance i never categorized as anything of low priority but we have to look at what is high risk and spend our time accordingly. So what does that mean . Is there just some holes that will always be there in our Security System . No, i wouldnt put it that way at all. Weve got people devoted to all manner of threats out there. Invariably the high probability type of threat, another San Bernardino, another orlando is uppermost on our minds. It is the thing that keeps me up at night the most, but weve got threats from cybersecurity. Weve got a mission devoted to the potential for a bio threat, a dirty bomb. Weve got to keep our eye on all of it but obviously, there are things that are higher probability but higher impact and weve got to keep our eye an o all of it. Are you concerned that syria today is as unstable and as much of a safe haven for terrorists as afghanistan was in the late 90s and should that concern us considering what afghanistan brought or what happened inside of afghanistan that led to 9 11, should we be concerned what is happening in syria could lead to a new 9 11 . Chuck, i said in february 2014 that syria had become a matter of Homeland Security. Our u. S. Military along with the International Partners have done a good job o taking back military, taking out the leaders of isil, taking out those focused on external attacks but yes, we have to be concerned that syria could become another afghanistan. Any time a terrorist organization can establish territory, take territory, have a place to head quarter, to train, recruit, thats obviously a big concern and its a big Homeland Security concern, yes, sir. One of the other things youve been having to talk about and deal with lately is the threat or perceived threat to the election system, russia, apparently is trying to infiltrate in someway but are they trying to create actual havoc or are they trying to create the illusion of havoc . Well, the investigation into the various intrusions we have seen including the dnc hack is still under investigation. I will say this, it would be very hard to alter a ballot count in a national election, to change the vote tally, just because our election system is so decentralized. There are some 9,000 jurisdictions involved. Ive been sending the message to state and local officials that we ought to do our utmost to protect their online presence, their internet presence and the department of Homeland Security is in a position to help, if they ask. They have to ask first. Today is your birthday and ive got a cousin who has 9 11 has a birthday, and its i know its awkward for her. How do you handle your birthday . Well, i always take occasion to remember what happened 15 years ago. Im here in new york this year. I was in shanksville last year. I spent 9 11 at the pentagon. I dont celebrate my birthday on my birthday anymore, either the day before or the day after and im not sure ill ever be in a position to celebrate my birthday again on 9 11, given the huge impression this day made on me. Absolutely. Jay johnson, i know its very personal for you. I know you were in new york city on the day of the attacks and its a very emotional day, as well. Thanks for spending a few minutes with me. Thanks for having me on, chuck. You got it. Turning now to the 2016 campaign, a New Washington post poll out this morning has Hillary Clinton with a fivepoint lead over donald trump among likely voters, 4641. We have some new nbc news Battle Ground state polls that well get to a little later but we begin with what perhaps is turning into a rough weekend for Hillary Clinton. Not unusual for the Trump Campaign trying to find itself explaining a controversial statement made by their candidate. Sometimes its a weekly issue for him but this weekend its the Clinton Campaign struggling for words to explain what she meant when she took a shot at trump voters a criticism that immediately drew sharp reaction. You can put half of trumps supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. [ laughter ] the racist, sexist, ho homophobic. At a fundraiser headlined by barbra streisand. Clinton made the remark clinton hopers voters will never forget. Hillary, they are not a basket of anything. They are americans and they deserve your respect. The Trump Campaign quickly demanded an apology and tried to capitalize. Trump tweeted Hillary Clinton was so insulting to my supporters, millions of amazing hardworking people. I think it will cost them at the polls. There is a history of president ial candidates becoming too comfortable in a crowd. Mitt romney was caught dismissing voters with this line that some republicans believe lost him the election. There are 47 of the people who will vote for the president thats not in 20 08, it was barack obama at a fundraiser talking about how job losses made working class americans feel. Its not surprising then that they get bitter and they cling to guns or religion. How will clintons opponents attack her . Ask Hillary Clinton. This is what she said about obamas remarks in 2008. I was taken aback by the demeaning remark senator obama made about people in small town america. Senator obamas remarks are elite and out of touch. Running mate tim kaine told the Washington Post on saturday that clinton shouldnt have to apologize. Still clinton rushed to explain. Last night i was gross rly grossly general. That was wrong. Lets be clear, it was deplorable trump built the campaign on prejudice and paranoia and given a National Platform to hateful views and voices. Clinton said something similar to israeli tv but didnt use the word half. I say you can put Trump Supporters and put them in two baskets, the deplorables, the ratests and haters. The comments come just as clinton is trying to show voters her warmer side after a Veterans Forum where she appeared on the defensive and lawyerly at times. I communicated about classified material on a wholly separate system s. And changes the subject about trump. Trumps praise of vladimir putin. In that system hes been a leader far more than our president has been a leader. Sitting down for an interview with larry king on state sponsored Russian Television where he trashed american institution. It left republicans scrambling. Vladimir putin isnt a president , hes a dictator. Are you still convinced that he is the best choice for National Security issues . Thank you. Thanks. Want to bring in the panel, tom brokaw is with us and host of all Things Considered and former Deputy Campaign manager and clinton supporter and david brooks whose book road to character is out in paper back. Clintons deplorable remark sums up a deplorable election season. David brooks, what was your initial reaction . First, you know, it was terrible week for politics. We had to race to the bottom before but this is like humane bolt speed. I was struck by another sentence about the deplorables. If you believe people are redeemable. They say they lack redeemable souls and in a lesser category of beings and thats a dark, dark world view and thats the risk. As president she can be hardworking and effective and efficient but there is a dark world view lurking in there. Stephanie, tough to defend the remark, is it or no . Do you think its tough to defend the remark deplorables in that group of people . Absolutely not. I think her only mistake is she said half of his supporters are deplorable. Does anybody around this table not seen trumps rallies and trumps own remarks . He is attracting a certain type of voter. She gave a whole speech on describing them. They are called the altright. From research we know his own words calling mexicans rapists, criticism a gold star family, these are the most potent things about him. Her only mistake is she described half of the sup popors that way. I want to put up a tweet, Hillary Clinton was right tom brokaw in describing and he admits, he wrote a piece saying politically incorrect, perhaps. Here is what is striking to me. That what half of his voters are in that category of being ir redeemably racist and homophobic in a small town in ohio and im trying to make up my mind, you got to wake up the next morning and think is she taking about me . Im kind of inclined for trump. Is that her thought about me . She did this at a manhattan high stakes fundraiser so that separates her, i think, from the rest of the country in a way and you can watch her demeanor there, it was all quite jolly. Everybody was laughing and applauding. I dont think thats what she needs at this point in her life because out there, there are a lot of people saying i dont quite trust hillary. Give me a reason why is it donald trump gets credit for being politically incorrect telling it like it is and Hillary Clinton i think some of her supporters are saying shes doing what trump does, shes telling it like it is. We can put aside for a second there is a segment of Trump Supporters which surveys have shown do have believes people can talk about islamic phobic and hes retweeted White Nationalist and this discussion about the altright. It confirms what his supporters already believe, right . Essentially hes this bull work against socalled p. C. Culture. Hes leading the charge against that and they are upset that their concerns are routinely dismissed out of hand as being racist or retro grade and hes the person out there saying no, no, no, youre perfectly normal. Something is quote unquote wrong here and she basically confirmed that democrats dont just think they are wrong but like look down on them. Candidates should not be pundits and not sit there in new york where the fundraisers hold looking down and making gross generalizations not only about 50 but about people. People say repugnant things are complicated and driven by complicated fears and anxiety to sometimes do things sometimes do beautiful things. The true you hate the sin but not the sinner applies to politics. Let me do a pause. Were going to take a break and come right back. And new Battle Ground polls in four states, two from the traditional Battle Ground and two from perhaps an expanded Battle Ground and later, the 9 11 attacks led to the war in iraq. Ill talk to a prominent member of president George W Bushs administration, Paul Mandy Chang Mark Lawrence charette Gregorio Manuel Chavez Gregorio Manuel Chavez delrose e. Cheatham 98,352 whats that . Gregorio Manuel Chavez delrose e. Cheatham the number of units well make next month to maximize earnings. Thats a projection. No, its a fact. Based on hundreds of proprietary and open data sets folded into a realtime, actionable analytics model. Nine. Eight. Three. Five. Two. Youre not gonna round that up . You dont round up facts. 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More now on the president ial campaign, we have now nbc journal polls from four states and the results pretty much confirm what weve been seeing over the last ten days. This race is getting closer. Well start with the traditional Battle Ground state of New Hampshire in a fourway race, clinton leads donald trump by a point. 3736 among likely voters in New Hampshire, not much difference, clinton is up by two. 3937. By the way, look at the gary johnson number, the highest weve measured in any Battle Ground state. 15 in New Hampshire. They have a bend to them. Next is nevada, clinton by two points, 4139 but look what happens when you have a likely voter sample, turns into a trump lead. Keep in mind democrats won New Hampshire in five of the last six elections and taken nevada in four of the last six so these should be states that favor clinton. Lets look at two red states in arizona, clinton and trump are tied at 37 among registered voters. Trump is up 3048. Look at the double digits for gary johnson that governed a neighboring state of arizona in new mexico and in georgia, clinton has a onepoint lead among registered voters but among likely voters, its trump who gains. Hes at 4442. Its worth remembering that democrats havent won either arizona or georgia since bill clinton won each once. David brooks, i want to start with a column you wrote about this idea of a realignment is coming. Politics is catching up to social reality. The crucial social divide is between those who feel the core trends of the Global Information age economy at tail ends at their back and those who feel them as head winds at the phase and i can point you to this break down in the poll among College Educated voters, shes up 20. Among noncollege ed vucated voters, hes up 20. For the last 20 years, if you look how people is behaved, you can do huge predictions whether they completed college. How often do they vote . How many friends do they have . Whats their marriage like. It opens up socially and this is the first election we have seen them reflected in the political polling and so my question and this is really a serious worry, suppose one marc party is less head winds and that would be the Republican Party and another party is the party of the tail winds, and that would be the democratic party. Suppose the partisan realignment over laps with the close alignment and that to me is extremely problematic for what it is. Isnt that what we see now . This is a profound shift because its representing the college education. Weve grown up with republicans at the high end of the income scale and the leaders in american life. This has been turned upside down. I think the big, big issue in this country and this election, cutting away Everything Else is what david talked about, how do we pull the country back together again . Its separating and going in Different Directions and there is not been either candidate whose been able to give a city shining on a hill speech like Ronald Reagan or i have a dream like dr. Ken because they are so determined to separate the country and that is, i think, a terrible prescription for the future. Its going to be like that as long as there is identity based partisanship. I mean, i think weve always talked about the different groups that aligned with the parties, but if you think about social media networks, like the idea you see only the news about the stuff you care about delivered to your phone every day, i think the silos of where we live and the silos of the information were taking in is actually exacerbating the problem. There are so many Different Reasons that weve ended up at this place. Some that we can control, some we cant control but i think in addition to the political realignment thats happening, i think that the most pressing issue is whoever wins the white house in november, there is going to be a huge chunk of americans who are going to feel unpr unrepresented and not heard. And angry about it. And angry about it. Look at the reaction very high unfavorables. So the mandate to govern will be very, very difficult and thats something that hopefully, democrats and republicans will look at each other and say this is it, we got to do something. We could have a winner at 32 . Everybody is at 42, 43, 48. Thats like minority leader government. I think we got to do something about it. Mayor rob emanuel of chicago has an idea. Every kid that graduates spends some sort of three months in a National Service so kids are with kids and just three months would make a difference. I thought National Service would be a given. Weve been talking about National Service my whole adult life and i cant believe were not there. Im involved with anned a a of Public Service. 250 this year. And by the way, when Hillary Clinton borrows the line from bernie sanders, well give Free College Education to families with 125,000 a year, she ought to say and if you get that, youve got to get with your Public Service when you graduate or two years. It ought to come with a price tag for them otherwise it looks like a government give away. Chuck, i think we cannot over state the importance and the effect of social media in this campaign. Its going on even as we speak here and the kind of victory on both sides thats out there and people have a hard time deciding whats real and whats not. I want to bring it back to e deplorabl deplorables. Against any other candidate against any other year, this is a really fatal mistake for her but have we been conditioned to this harsh rhetoric . I dont think people have been conditioned to rhetoric. If they were, then you wouldnt have a whole segment of the Republican Party that arent for trump. I mean, what she really was speaking to were those people, Republican Voters who havent made up their mind because they are very uncomfortable with trump because of the racist words coming out of his mouth and some of his supporters. This is a risk if you make it a referendum on trump, you have to walk the line between saying a vote for trump is a bad decision and a vote for trump means youre a bad person. And i think this crossed that line and its hard to unring that bell. I think weve seen that a tie goes to trump, if they both have bad weeks, he benefits. Hes gotten closer not because hes suddenly great. I have to say there was part of this when she did it and i thought marco rubio did this and ted c cruz tried this, when you try to hit him, when you go name calling for name calling and go down to his level he went. Yeah. 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If you think about it, if we had a Counter Insurgency strategy, if we had that from the beginning, i think iraq would look like a very different place today and history would look very different instead of waiting until 2007, 2008 to defeat al qaeda and iraq, they could have withibeen defeated. You were an advisor to jeb bush. He struggled with the knowing what we know question now, what is your answer . It assumes everything we know then we know now. We know about saddam and not part of al qaeda at the time but merged with al qaeda and the leader is there. We know that now. Most importantly, well never know what the world would be like if saddam was still in power in iraq. Imagine if you had an uprising in iraq like took place in syria, you would have syria on steroids. Saddam would be more brutal than assad has been. Thats a big assumption. How do we know that . Saddam a lot it turned out a buster, for instance, there were no weapons of mass destruction. He was deceiving the world on that point. Thats a big point to deceive the world on. Not killing terrorists. He was killing his own people on a large scale. He did it in 1991. We saw what he did. I dont think it takes a lot of imagination to see how he would respond. We seen what he did. There is a tendency to say it all around the world. If the americans can put a man on the moon, why cant they do x and x is some complicated social problem thats been here for centuries. Americans play into that assuming they can solve everything and were responsible for everything. Hillary clinton was actually right when she said a few months ago the United States didnt create isis. Bashar alassad created isis. There is another theory that says whatever you want to think of the strong man the fact of the matter as soon as Saddam Hussein was serving as iraq covering up a lot of bad guys, we lifted that rock and all of a sudden chaos ensued. He wasnt covering up a lot of bad guys. He was sheltering a lot of bad guys. He had the one perpetrator who the First World Trade Center bombing at large and zarkowi in iraq. The you know, when i said assad helped to create isis, he did it by driving the sunnis into desperation where isis is the only choice for them. These dictators brutalized their societies. They divide their societies after they collapse and eventually they collapse. There is nothing left to stabilize or take its place. Go ahead. Not every dictator is like that. I was ambassador in indonesia when the president was the socalled auto cat, or dictator. There was nothing reasonable left in iraq, nothing reasonable left in syria or libya. Let me go back to this issue. Here we are on 9 11. It was mostly s lly saudis that those planes into the towers, nobody from iraq. Why was that the first action. We went into afghanistan and why didnt we hold saudi arabia accountable . You can make a case a lot mf saudis were funding and fueling these terrorists attacks with saudi money and things like that than anybody in iraq. There is a big problem with what the sud diaudis have been and i hope people are right when they say the new crown prince. They are harboring terrorists . Cultivating terrorists but the point is you dont deal with that by going to war. What concerned us about iraq and people want to forget but everybody believes and saddam was doing his best to convince us he had weapons of mass destruction. We knew he had previously had anthrax and he was working on Nuclear Weapons and made it clear after he was captured he intended to start the programs again once the sanctions were lifted. He was a real danger and thats why there was a focus on weapons of mass destruction and people say after the fact that bush lied and got us into a war, he wasnt lying. He was saying what everyone believed and, you know, i heard some discussions on your Previous Panel and i but i heard remarkable comment this morning by one of the orphans from 9 11 whose father died and the son said 9 11 brought us together. We need to come together as a country. Some said lying when he was telling the truth. Some could say iraq split us apart. The followup from the iraq war. Look at the Republican Party today. Im not disagreeing. More isolation today. Im not disagreeing with that but if you accuse bush of lying when he was telling what everyone believed let me ask you this then, who lied . Is it bad intelligence . Somebody got us into this and somebody convinced the United States congress that weapons of mass destruction were imminent in iraq, which is why so Many Democrats and republicans voted for this war. I think the original liar is Saddam Hussein who discovered he had more. Later, it seems he was lying that he had more than he really did have because he wanted to supposedly deceive the iranians. The fact is every Intelligence Service in the world, not just the americans, the british, the germans, the french, all believe he had weapons of mass destruction. Are you do you are you now concerned that that especially, we were wrong and if you think about the publics lack of trust for government right now, thats one of the reasons. Thats one of the things over the last 15 years when you talk about wall streets inability to be truthful and that under mined trusting government. Do you believe that . Look, i think its done a lot of harm but i think in fact, stating falsehoods like saying bush lied does a lot of harm. I believe if we had a better strategy in iraq from the beginning and if the surgetype strategy was implemented, iraq would look different. How many troops would be there . Do you think because youve said in the past you thought this is more like a germany and korea situation thanks we probably would need troops for 40 or 50 years. The issue isnt how many troops you have but how Many Americans are getting killed. By the end of the surge very muni americans were getting killed. There is a great risk if north korea starts a war. The u. S. Can be a stabilizing factor. Its important to understand and i agree the turn in Public Opinion on the United States is very unfortunate. I think it will bring us more trouble. Were in danger of learning all the wrong lessons from the past. The lesson that intervention is the only thing thats bad. I think were seeing in syria the consequence is nonintervention. I think we see in libya the consequence of partial invention. Is this why youre learning clinton over trump . Im learning against both of them. 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This is an nbc special report. Here is lester holt. Good day from new york. Some concerns raised this morning on the well being of Hillary Clinton. Democratic candidate for president after she left the 9 11 Memorial Service at ground zero earlier than expected. They s and that she is okay. Lets go to nbcs Hallie Jackson for more. I want to read you the statement from Hillary Clintons campaign coming to us moments ago, a spokesman saying secretary clinton attended a september 11th commemoration ceremony for an hour and 30 minutes this morning to pay her respects and greet some of the families of the fallen. During the ceremony, shi felt overheated so departed to go to her daughters apartment and is now feeling much better. For about 90 minutes this morning, it was unclear what had happened to secretary clinton, where she had gone. The small band of reporters traveling with her had been kept at the 9 11 ceremony. After clinton left around 9 30, walked out, were told, and ultimately apparently has gone to her daughter Chelsea Clintons house in manhattan. Hallie, thank you. We know it has been unseasonably hot and humid here in the new york area for the last several days. And our folks at ground zero say certainly those are the conditions this morning when secretary clinton was taken away. Want to go to Andrea Mitchell on the phone now. Andrea, the health of secretary clinton certainly has become an issue in this campaign. What we have just reported here has driven a lot of speculation today on social media. What can you tell us . Her health has been an issue and i can tell you that traveling with her nonstop, it has been no issue for her. It is all rumor and speculation driven, merely by her opponent, by the Trump Campaign. They and Rudy Giuliani in particular have raised all sorts of questions she has been healthy. She has been her travel schedule has been cell phone signal is breaking up, andrea, unfortunately. Your point is taken. Were looking at the still photos, by the way. We believe this is the time this was clearly before she was taken away. She seemed fine. She was interacting with the other dignitaries and politicians who would gather there for the reading of the names, as the country marks the 15th anniversary of the attacks of 9 11. But, again, to reiterate what Hallie Jackson said, the Clinton Campaign reporting a short time ago that she was overheated. And left after about 90 minutes at ground zero. She went to her daughters apartment in manhattan, about four or five miles away and as you see in that statement, written statement we received, they say she is feeling much better. That is what we know. Andrea, are you back with us . Back with you. Can just report that she has had no episodes of this kind, not since 2012, when she caught the flu, she had a stomach flu, she was seriously dehydrated, did faint, hit her head and had a concussion. That was the last medical episode that we know of and that was wildly reported. At the time, there was a lot of speculation, but the doctors reported very complete doctors reports did indicate that she has had some issues and she takes blood sorry, she takes medications that include medications to thin the blood because of previous episodes with thrombosis, but nothing that has been of any issue in this campaign other than the criticism from her opponents. And we had no indication she was taken to a hospital. In fact, there are strong indications even before the statement that she did go to her daughters apartment. We have a picture of a van here that appears to be the same one she was traveling in to ground zero this morning and there it is in front of daughter chelseas apartment in the Flat Iron District of new york. So that apparently is where she is. We have no indication that she received any medical treatment from the hospital or anyone there at the scene. But simply went to her daughters apartment. Well continue to follow this story. Well have more when we see you tonight on nbc nightly news. For now, im lester holt in new york. Good day. S. I am lester holt in new york. Have a good day. So were already seeing today the social media activity that is going on. Get a clean report if it is available. This is not something that is going to be dealt with at her daughters apartment, in the context of where we are. Were in the era of information, low trust, i dont know, you know, we saw with birtherism, what can convince one when a Conspiracy Theory starts to take hold. Here are the facts. Donald trump and Hillary Clinton, whichever one is elected, will be one of them will be their oldest newly elected president and one will be six months younger than Ronald Reagan was, but point is, both of them are in their late 60s, hes 70. We have more medical information about her, we have less about donald trump and the public demands more from both. In an age of cynicism there is a tendency to think theyre holding something. Sometimes the right impulse is to push against that and think maybe nothing is happening. If nothing is happening, shell be out in two or three feeling the issue will go away. But the age is a factor in the race. Were also in an age where were defining old age. These two people are in a remarkable health. Theyre both absolutely. We travel around the country, not at the pace they do. I get tired. Younger than them, but they travel at an amazing pace. You do have to start thinking about that. Unless we really see something much worse than i dont think with we could be leaping too far. I completely agree. This is her letter, from her doctor, july 28th, 2015, and i just want to read one graphic here, it is important to clarify what the state of her health was from her doctor what they released. Her most recent physical examination revealed a healthy appearing female, vital signs showed Blood Pressure 100 over 65, heart rate, 72, respiratory rate, 18, temperature the 98. 7, the rest of the physical examination was normal. Takes everyday prescription drugs, Different Things that anybody that age might be taking. I think thats all true. Also a year ago that that came out. And, remember, she did have that bad fall and she was forced to wear glasses for correcting some vision issues. But more and more conscious in this country because of what is going on with football, a lot of the after effects of concussions doesnt show up right away. There is nothing wrong with her going to a doctor, and saying, take a look at me. And the public deserves to know that. I deserve to know that. And it will shut down, one hopes, the kind of underground that is going to as emphatic as you are, lets remind people, we know less about Donald Trumps health. Yes. Much less about his health. I guess im just saying in a way it doesnt matter. The distrust level is so high that there is always going to be people who are going to say, thats not enough. I need more. Thats not enough. I need more. It is a little bit of a test for the Trump Campaign. I would hope he would say, i look forward to debating her, im not sure that will be the Trump Campaign reaction. A nice personality test. Thats a fascinating effect of this. I want to quickly take a break here. Well be right back with more meet the press. From engineering and manufacturing. To stealth bombers. To nextgeneration fighters. 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I think you would often see a president ial candidate come out and say of a rival nominee, well, were glad this person is feeling better, you know, especially on a day like today and move on after a brief pause. We havent heard yet from donald trump, we have reached out to the campaign. I imagine his response will come on twitter, we know he was visiting some areas of the firehouse in Lower Manhattan today, doesnt seem like that would be the right venue. I wondered if maybe this is the incident that crystallizes it for voters and for both campaigns to realize they we dont have a lot of information on these folks. More from clinton than trump, and it is not just on health. We have more from clinton on taxes. There is no actual conflict of interest in this country. The only thing we have are his tax returns to find out if hes president of the United States, if hes going to have a conflict of interest that would prevent him from doing certain on the tax stuff, people clearly decide, supporters have decided, hes corrupt, but at least hes a change agent. Thats the shamelessness of his admission he buys covers from him on that. On the health stuff, i dont see how it is an actionable item for any voter. There is no Actual Movement to anywhere. And both of them have running mates who are younger, healthy and certainly very substantial records, you cant look at them and say theyre not they dont have the resume to make them qualified. Thats true. I have to say, it is extremely early to be looking through the running mates now. You know what i mean by that if youre concerned about health, it does focus you on the running mate issue. Who is the Vice President when youre thinking about a ticket . Mike pence is doing explaining for donald trump, on the taxes or birtherism, mike pence is the one who comes out and says, well, actually, there is each to play a different role here. Look at what mike pence did 72 hours ago, released his tax return, way more than his running mate, which is another question, chuck, to your point of we still dont know. He says he wont release them until the audit is complete. His campaign reiterated that to us this past week. There is nothing that prohibits him from doing so even under audit. Does Hillary Clinton get held to a different standard than donald trump . Im not sure shes held to a higher standard. I think it depends who is holding her to a higher standard. Theyre frustrated theyre having no impact on where he is. I think Hillary Clinton having been around as long as shes been around has got this long trail behind her and the republicans are going through and picking that apart piece by piece by piece and they have got surrogates like Rudy Giuliani who go on television and say, well, i dont have any real information about her, but there is a lot of question about what shes doing. And will not give up on all of that. Look, we have been through a lot of president ial campaigns. These kinds of episodes occur in almost every one of them. One turned out to be true. The senator from we were talking about bill bradley, hadden an episode, turned out to be nothing, but happened close to the caucuses. We have in the back of our minds, wilson, a president who suffered an illness in the white house and was semiincapacitated. It is a real issue but were not close to thinking about that. Thats what all of us are concerned about is the rumor mongering. One thing i do believe, i think both candidates ought to be required to go to neutral physicians in a really big clinic and get a complete workup that we can see. That i would like, send them both to cleveland clinic. Thats all for today. Well be back next week. Because if its sunday, its meet the press. Playing the new million in an instant gamethan with top prizes of a million bucks . Winning. On the spot. cheers play million in an instant from the pennsylvania lottery. And you could win. On the spot keep on scratchin a new eagle season kicks off in just 90 minutes. Today local Sports Writer icon joins us to discuss why its more than a game to the city that bleeds green. Defeating disease, we hear from a local musician who amazes doctors, bby turning the tables on multiple scler row sis. Boys dying to be thin. A mother who lost her son. Getting treatment became a part of the battle. Good morning and welcome to nbc 10 at issue. 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