The glacial pace these things occur, the crime lab worked on the dna and pored over those photos of the bite marks. One on tazs arm was the impression of a big, ugly bite. They compared the contours of that bite to a mold of nikkis mouth. The similarity was uncanny. Nikki was most likely the source. Reporter had their mother bitten them trying to fight off an attack . The bite marks on tazs arm would be consistent as if she had her mother in a chokehold from behind. And that her mother, nikki, is biting her, trying to get away. Reporter and when detectives saw the twins biting themselves right after the murder . Maybe that was an attempt to cover up evidence. Then the dna results came back. They knew theyd find nikkis blood. But, remember, one of the twins had fresh cuts on her hand. And, sure enough in a smear of nikkis blood, mixed with her likely assailants, a match. It belonged to one of the twins. But which one . They were identical twins. They have identical dna so we dont know. Couldnt tell for sure which twin the blood came from. Reporter by this time, the twins had been out in the World Without a word from the police for five months. Wxia reporter katie beck. I think those months built their confidence, built almost an arrogance that were going to get away with this. Reporter so, you can only imagine how it was, may 21st, 2010, just after school. How did they react to being arrested . Shocked. Though thut it was over with. It had been five months since they had heard from us. Reporter the arrest was big news in atlanta. Two sweet little girls charged with the murder of their mother. Who would have thought . I mean, people were riveted by this story. Reporter oh, yes, they were. And when the twins finally told their version of events that cold morning in january, the city was riveted all over again. Coming up she threatened us. The fatal struggle. Did their mom start it all. She like charged forward. I kept telling her to stop. Just stop. Its a complicated thing. Lots to do if youre a prosecutor preparing a murder case against pretty twin teenagers. And so d. A. Richard reed was interested when, one day, Defense Attorneys suggested they wanted to make a deal. My response is its great to hear it from you, but i want to hear it from them. And so id like to talk to your clients. Id like to ask them questions. Reporter and thats how d. A. Reed met the 19yearold jazz and taz and heard them confess they did kill their mother. But was it a confession, really . In fact, said the twins, it wasnt their fault. She started it. Shes starts cursing and stuff. I think she was mad about us being late. Reporter that morning, they said, nikki was furious that they were late for school and picked up a pot in the kitchen, they said, and swung it at them. She still calling us whores and sluts and everything like that and stupid and everything like that and she threatened us. I dont know. Were all going to die today. Reporter thats jazz. And then taz picked up the story. All right, so you took the pot away from your mom. What happened then . She kind of just like charged forward, not at me though, at jazz. Reporter now, nikki had a knife, said the girls. They tumbled, room to room, trying to get it away from her before she cut one of them. And in fact, said taz, thats how her finger got cut. I kept telling her to stop. Just stop, just stop, just stop. Reporter but she didnt, they said. So, im trying to punch her, i guess, and i think taz stabbed her. She stabbed her. And at this point in time, how many times did taz stab her . It was once. Reporter at some point, exhausted, the twins said they all called a truce. It didnt last long. And they both describe mom lunges for the knife. And when she does, its on again. Reporter finally, said the girls, they overpowered their mother who stopped struggling and moaned that she was cold. So, they put her in a warm tub, tried to soothe her even though, they said, she was still spitting mad and threatening them. Kill me now or ill kill you all. Reporter eventually, they said, she stopped talking, drifted off in the warm water and died. So, what did the d. A. Think after listening to the girls tale of selfdefense against a mother gone berserk . Did you believe them . Did you believe everything they said . No. Still dont. Reporter the idea that nikki launched an attack on her own daughters . Difficult to believe, said the d. A. Sheer nonsense, is what nikkis mother called it. My daughter never have hit her kids. They never had a spanking more or less. Anybody that knows nikki knows that wasnt her behavior. Reporter it was very clear, said the detectives who worked the case, that, in fact, nikki was the victim of an unprovoked attack. She had at least 45 stab wounds. Her spinal cord was almost severed. Nikki fought for her life. We think she fought defensively. You can see where shes on her back some of the time fighting off people that are attacking her from above with knives. Reporter as for the girls claim that they put their dying mother in the tub to keep her warm as she watched her fade away, fiction through and there, said the police. We think she was dead before she was placed in the tub. Or she would have bled into the water and the water would have been bloody. They were putting her in the water trying to wash off the crime scene, wash off the evidence. Reporter in truth, said the detectives, these girls were remorseless, defiant, brilliant little actresses. Remember how they sounded just after their mothers death. I want my mommy. I want them to catch this person, please god. Reporter listen to the little darlings when they didnt know they were playing for the cameras. This was recorded in the back of a squad car just after their arrest. Sweet little girls . Hardly. They got [ bleep ] evidence. They cant do anything with [ bleep ] evidence like this. Man, get real. Did they find a murder with my fingerprints on it . Or something . I get if they said they found a murder weapon. Please do that please find a murder weapon. Thank you they are aggressive. They are angry. They are combative. These [ bleep ] rednecks, down dirty ass cops did this [ bleep ]. Reporter oh, and one more thing. Tucked away in one of the girls bedrooms, police found this journal. Inside, in childish handwriting, a death sentence. They were notes to each other, said the d. A. , written just before the killing she dont care. She selfish. We got get rid of her. To which the other twin responds thats what i think also. Shes got to go asap. It may be the most telling piece of evidence that the whole death of mom may have been premeditated. Reporter still, the d. A. Worried maybe a good defense attorney could spin the familys turbulent history, the juvey court drama, nikkis two boyfriends, and somehow sell a jury on selfdefense. It wouldve been an ugly trial. I think to some extent it would have been a misrepresentation of nikkis life. Reporter so he didnt like it much, but he let them plead guilty to the lesser charge voluntary manslaughter. 30 years for each. Not enough, said nikkis mother linda. These children have killed my child brutally, and you are going to give them 30 years . They shouldnt even be able to walk the street. I know these are my grandkids, but come on now. I mean, if they can do this to their mom, god help us all. Reporter and the questions that go over and over in your head are like what . How everything about this goes against nature. How the person that provides for you and raises you and loves you and gives birth to you, how you could watch that person die in a bathtub and lie about it. Reporter it was wxia reporter katie becks reports that brought the story to an atlanta both horrified and fascinated. She, who first secured access to all those police video tapes, exposing these Pretty Little Liars for all the world to see. It suddenly becomes clear that these girls have multiple personalities, that they can be whoever they need to be for their own purposes, that they can morph between a fragile, disturbed, innocent teenager into sort of this demonized criminal. Reporter those girls you knew. Those sweet little girls. Yeah. Reporter what happened to them . Its hard for me to even i dont know. Reporter and nikkis mom, linda whitehead, carries the helpless grief with her every day. Every sleepless night without her daughter, without the granddaughters she thought she knew. I was so proud of them. And i knew and they would talk about what college they wanted to go to. Reporter thats okay. So im sitting here and everybody gone. Reporter thats an awful tough road. You cant even imagine. Because every morning i wake up, i think about my daughter and my grandkids. Its just a tragedy. Reporter one about a mother who dared to dream that her sweet gemini twins would surpass her, who instead became their victim. Thats all for now. Im lester holt. Thanks for joining us. Re not sh police. These are people killing people. There is a disproportionate amount of it going on in the challenged communities. Who do you think goes after the people . The cops. We encounter dangerous people out there on the street. So we can look at numbers in a variety of ways but i think we need to keep it in context that Police Officers have a very challenging and often dangerous job. Now thats not to say that we should not be mindful of the fact that we have some officers that use excessive force. We got to really address that and hold them accountable but not a reflection of the department and policing at large. Director comey in the news this week said a couple of times that he is concerned that there have been an impact on Police Officers, that they are somehow more hesitant. He is worried and has no data to prove it but worried the rise in the homicide rate this year is somehow related. Are you at all concerned about that . Yeah, im concerned about it. I mean, i dont know and there is no data right now as the director said to really show it but Police Officers are human beings and i mean, when youre being attacked like that or perceived of being attacked, it does create issues and problems but i think that we all need to recognize that there are some changes that need to be made. I mean, we cant look at it from a defensive post toure. How do we move forward and create an environment on the same page . There is one issue creating safe neighborhoods but also those neighborhoods where people have a sense and feeling of justice and fairness as the law is being applied and i think thats really what people are asking for. So does it have an impact . Yeah, i think it does. But weve got to move forward. Is there a different challenge, by the way, between what were seeing and the way Big City Police departments, i think have been a little more proactive in making the changes necessary but suburban Police Departments where frankly weve seen a lot of these negative interactions between police and African Americans have actually taken place in smaller suburban departments. Is there a discrepancy between training . Is there a discrepancy between resources here, between smaller Police Departments and larger ones . Well, i mean, you raise a great issue. There are approximately 18,000 departments in the United States. In my opinion far too many and we need to look at a longterm goal. Better training, more consistency and policy and procedures. In your larger cities where you have a lot of diversity, obviously you have offices that are very accustomed to dealing with a variety of people. We still have parts in our country where thats not the case. We need to bring people together but we need more consistency in terms of the training thats provided, the selection and hiring of individuals, all those kinds of things need to happen but in my opinion, we have too many Police Departments. I would try to cut the number in half in the next ten years or so because youre always going to have these kinds of issues as long as you have this many departments with different policies, procedures, training and the like. Earlier interview this week you said the issue of the fact that all of this now gets many people videotaped, these interactions, you called it a powder keg that were sitting on a powder keg. Explain. We are sitting on a powder keg. You can call it a powder keg or saying were handling nitroglycer nitroglycerin. When you look at what is going on, were in a very, very critical point in the history of this country and two conventions coming up that will be very, very challenging to handle and i dont think they will go without some incident taking place. Unfortunate but thats what i personally think. I hope thats not the case but you got too many people with the extreme rhetoric and thats just not good for anybody. We need to come together. We need thoughtful people to sit down and engage in dialogue but actually come up with solutions, not just finger pointing and playing the blame game. Thats not helpful to anybody at all but it is a very, very volatile time that were in right now. Chief ramsey, appreciate you coming on. Been a tough week. Thank you. So i appreciate you sharing your views. On friday, president obama ordered flags to be lowered at half staff. 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I was pleading, really, with White Brothers and sisters to understand the difficulty, the circumstances that we confront. The extraordinary assault upon black live. The repudiation of any sense of actions between Police Forces that regard with respect and authority but Whose Authority has spilled over into terrorizing impulses and impacts among African American culture and i want to talk about the vulnerability. When you were interviewing chief bratton a remarkable man but wanted to draw a false equivalence talking to his son and jay johnson speaking to his. Jay johnson hesitant to weigh in and i understand. Chief bratton more than happy to do so. There is not an equivalence of chief bratton speaking to his son and i wanted to express myself to that very america i teach. I want to throw something out here on red state. Leon wolf writes this, the most important safety valve to preve prevent violence in dallas is when officers go off the rails the legal punish them accordingly. If communities believe that the resort to reprisal killings will be nonexist tablet orless frequent. I saw that piece on red state after my jaw came off the floor. I was actually encouraged. I was encouraged by that. I was also encouraged by somewhat lukewarm statement that came from the National Rifle association about the minnesota shooting, which essentially questioned whether Philando Castile was killed for exercising the Second Amendment right to bear arms and there are conservatives getting it or understanding this idea of equal protection but i have to say as michael said. This is personal. I am the father of two sons, right . They are often guilty, young black men often guilty of driving while black, standing while black, walking while black so this is a very personal concern. You dont like to be lumped together conservatives dont like to be lumped together and a lot of conservatives do, particular those who live in the minority majorities cities and im all about leon wolf. Hes my goto guy and consistent in saying you read the whole column. The problem here is coming to the truth. It is the truth is not all cops are racist and the truth is not all cops are always right. The truth is your former panelist said and the statistics show is somewhere in between. Thats what leon is saying and people of good faith belief and if you live in new orleans or any city like that, we have faced this and we have reformed and corrected it but i want to go to your point, too. It is true that children im, what, 63. Okay, im older than all of you guys. I was raised to respect Police Officers. Black friends of mine whose parents were raised in the same era were taught to fear them because that was the legacy of Police Brutality and jim crow. Absolutely. So we have to understand that but in turn, and here is what weve done in new orleans, black people, our African American brothers and sisters understand the first line of protection in the neighborhoods are the police. Absolutely. No one understands that more. Nobody understands that more than people respect look at Philando Castile. His girlfriend is announcing look, i have a gun. Let me tell you what i have, as far as we know and this is the case and hes still by obeying the law, mary, lost his life. This is the polarizing viability we feel that were trying to express to white americans who love and appreciate justice. Professor, do you think i understand the fear, i understand the legacy, but do you honestly belief out of the 3 million interactions of police with people of all colors there is one cop for every 266 humans that every one of these instances that police go out and say im going to brutalize a black man . Of course not. Okay. The consequence and youre making my point for me better. Thank you. It is an unconscious, if you will, inclination to see that black person differently through a different prism to have greater fear. The police, the cop on the front line feels the kind of intensity that he does not feel. Let me give you an example. On the internet right now is a white go going ham, crazy, beating up, striking out with a machete and the white police allow him to leave the door of the establishment and these are two cops that could have killed him. Do you think an African American person welding a machete were struggling more broadly and the biggest need at this moment is empathy across our deepest divisions. Thats what allows a diverse country and multi ethnic country to be peaceful and unified and empathy is most powerful, most effective when you apply it to your own, when you apply it to your own community. So its powerful when black lives mothers emphasizes with the role of Police Officers and powerful when people in the White Community understand that minorities experience our Justice System different than we do and in ways that we would not tolerate. And so i think that thats the biggest need right now. And the coolest irony of last week is that that sort of empathy was happening in dallas, right . Of all Police Departments. Of all the Police Departments, david brown has done a fabulous job in dallas. Excessive violence complaints on the part of officers are down by twothirds since he took over in 2010. Police shootings went down from 23 in 2012 to one, one this year. Its so it can be done and you saw the ease with which the protesters, the black lives matter protesters and police coexisted and told this lunatic and the right of the African American people. I spoke with the black Police League and those people are remarkable but understand, let me tell you something you dont want to hear. As black police, they say, too, when im out of uniform, i have fear. When im not involved directly and people cant identify me, i have fear. Look at the young woman, jones, the facebook posting, we have to continue front. Professor, we got that point and i want to speak to mikes point. Justice getting it is understanding it. Empathy starts with empathy and justice is more frequently done than were discussing. Lets talk about the aftermath of baton rouge. Both my daughters are there. James, my husbands family are there. That city came together, black and white holding vigils and praying and singing and not erupting. Thats where the rhetoric departs from the empathy thats lived on the ground. I want to pause the conversation. Well continue it. We have more time to continue it. Let me pause it because i got to sneak in a commercial break. Whether we come back, can a divided washington heal a divided nation . I will speak to two former mayors that have firsthand experience dealing with policing and race. Im mary ellen, and i quit smoking with chantix. I have smoked for 30 years and by taking chantix, i was able to quit in 3 months and that was amazing. 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Senator, corker, let me start with you, you tweeted this on friday, our country has been shaken by senseless violence this week and i am horrified by the tragedy that unfolded overnight in dallas. Obviously, the sentiment a lot of people share, how much outrage needs to be expressed before we start feeling as if we can do something about this . Well, look, i we are doing something about it. I mean, i thought the response in dallas was the kind of response that needs to take place. This is mostly a local issue and individual mayors and Police Chiefs and others respond in an appropriate way as mayor, one of the things i knew and im sure corey knew when the moral at a Police Department is low and people dont feel supported in Police Departments, folks are being hurt unnecessarily, so look, its the number one responsibility that we have is to keep our citizens safe and secure to make sure that they are professionalized but the fact is that its a break down in society when things like what happened in dallas where this moral depravity of this individual took the lives of people protecting folks, who were demonstrating peacefully. That is something that all of us should cry out about and show support for these men and women in uniform that do what they do on a daily basis, mostly supported but in so many cases feeling like that are under assault by the general public and again, when one of their officers, when someone acts out inappropriately, it hurts them, too. They want to make sure the Legal Process works when that breaks down but the fact is mostly these are selfless people protecting our citizens, causing kids to be able to go to school and people to be able to go to work and thats what we ought to be talking about today is their greatness. There are flaws that exist but their greatness, what they do on our behalf. Senator booker, you heard obviously senator corker there and said this is a local issue. Do you think there is a federal role, when you were mayor, the federal government. You had a very challenging Police Department that had a challenges history to it in newark. What role did you want the federal government to play then and what should they be playing now . First of all, we have 18,000 Police Departments in our country and many of them are significantly under resourced. There is few groups ive ever seen in america that show the daily courage especially urban Police Officers where there is a lot of gun violence. We have officers dying every single year on duty. And we should be doing a lot more to support the officers and programs in the past supported local officers and now at a time when we know that there is ways not only to protect our officers that we need to be doing more of in affirming the fact they are doing very dangerous jobs that when officers leave their families those families fear for their safety and pray for their return. We also know that there is a challenge with america where we have invested unfortunately is in a war on drugs. Which has been profoundly painful to our nation with a 500 increase in incarceration in our country, disproportionately affecting poor and disproportionately affecting minorities. African americans are 3. 7 times more likely to be arrested. We now know local Police Officers with the right training could address issues like deescalation, can address issues like racial bias but even people like the head of the fbi director comey talked passionately about the need for this country to address racial bias. We need to invest in the local departments, do a lot of things some progressive deputies are doing to deescalate and lower policeinvolved shootings and addressing the racial bias. Let me go to the larger issue that im concerned about which is do we have a is this president ial campaign and are these two president ial candidates suited to meet the moment thats necessary . Senator corker, the rhetoric is heated and divisive. The country believes both candidates are polarizing for various reasons and different reasons. Ill start with you. Senator corker, whats your advice . How does donald trump make the case he can unify this country and heal these wounds, and ill ask senator booker to make the case on the other side. Look, i think both of the candidates, their challenge over the coming weeks is to show that they can do that. I think there is going to be a sincere effort within the Trump Campaign to do so. My guess is the same thing will be happening in the clinton campaign. There is no question put this campaign aside. Look, the conversation in america has been way divisional. Its not been appropriate. Its been that way for some time. And it adds to this but lets get back to it again. You know, the mayor of a city is where most of this occurs and im not in any way criticizing what happened in dallas, but local efforts bring people together. No doubt the discourse and videos that people can see. No doubt those things affect things throughout our country but look, i hope that both of these candidates candidly will rise to the occasion and on this particular issue bring people together, millennials in our country today probably are more embracing of the diversity than any generation weve had and thats my hope again after this tremendous crisis that occurred, this tragedy our country will focus more on unity and not division and i hope both campaigns will take advantage. Let me ask about Hillary Clinton, can she be a president that helps with racial reconciliation in a better way than president obama . So let me just say this, we have to all understand we have a country with deep reservoirs of love. We are good people. We are well intentioned people and when called upon, we rise to an occasion. This is such an occasion and im going to be very blunt. Ive watched in pain when i see a president ial candidate all of our words matter whether citizen of president ial candidate words matter and this is a time we need courageous empathy and undeterred love. When i hear donald trump demeaning women, demeaning muslims, demeaning latinos when we need reconciliation, we need people that bind our wounds and build bridges across to see someone so callously stoking hate and fear, and inflaming divide. This is not person to be president of the United States ever but definitely not at a time we need a healer, reconciler and remind us as a nation differences matter but our down mr. Booker, i understand you made the case against mr. Trump but who is Hillary Clinton almost as polarizing and divisive, how does she make the case shes the candidate for reconciliation . I patently disagree with you on issues of race and religious issues that shes polarizing. If anything, ive watched her in black communities and White Communities put forth the spirit of america and our founders said this is a time we need to mutely pledge our sacred honor and shes manifested that on race, religion, of gender diversity, shes someone that can build our bridges and far more than the alternative. Someone who is injecting more divisiveness through the affiliation and refusal to denounce patent racists. Thank you both for coming on together. Hopefully we can make this a habit again on meet the press. Appreciate it. Thank you. Coming up, how will this week impact the president ial race and is this the week well learn who Donald Trumps running mate will be . Well be right back. The beginng of the 21st century, the earth needed to find a new way to keep up with the data from over 30 billion connected devices. Just 30 billion . So, a bold group of researchers and computer scientists in Silicon Valley had a breakthrough they called. The machine. The machine. 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We have a republican nominee who rose to prominence but criticizing the other creating fear of the other. We have a conservative media in part right now that has a white identity message. That all of this is deeply destructive. Its not the kind of leadership we need. You know what he said about trump but also, you know, it the situation, as you said, is that half the country just tunes out when Hillary Clinton speaks. You know the other half out country tunes out when donald trump speaks, maybe more than half and so thats not conducive to a National Conversation about race but frankly, ive always maintained this is how we have our National Conversation about race. Not the way were sitting at this table but something happens, we yell and scream and argue. Thats the way we do it. Wait. Stop, stop, stop. Everything isnt about race or everything is about the economy, which affects every race, every gender, every orientation the same. Donald trump is did not come out of the head, the party created him by being unresponsive to the partys demands and success of tsunami midterms that wanted to have some reform repeal of obamacare, wanted to reduce the over reach of government, wanted a more robust economic recovery and wanted cessation. Thats what is going on in every community out there and donald trump is just riding that wave and youre not wrong about there being but their rhetoric of both of them is detached. Thats now how people live. The whole political strategy giving out the white vote is morally problematic and dangerous and thats where our politics is headed. Hold on. It is about race. When you say hold on its not about race, its also about whiteness and we dont have a conversation with race and whiteness. Whiteness is at steak. Donald trump has i think in a way seduced many working class white people into believing he will be their defender when indeed he is not and on top of that, Hillary Clinton when we get past the optics and cosmetics put forth consistently Public Policy recommendations that will speak to the vicious under current of racism in the country but bring together various constituencies along the continuing of the race in the country. Here it goes back to, see, i think its what cory booker was trying to get at, which is he says while shes doing all of these things, the country is going to tune her out, right . Half of the country the point of unity is can you get 10 of the other side to listen . Frankly, well have to see. Lessons are choices, right . Well have presumably these two candidates, unless something crazy happens in cleveland will have Hillary Clinton and donald trump and people will then be making choices and choose who to listen to and there will be occasions when people basically dont have a choice. Turn off the tv but the two will be standing there debating. I do believe that theres a very good chance that Hillary Clintons message will indeed get through better than Donald Trumps. Very quickly, well, Michael Eric Dyson, president obama said hell go to dallas. Is that the only place he should go this week . Not at all. Hes got to go to louisiana and hes got to go to minnesota. All three stops. You got to do all three stops because all three people are aggrieved, hurt, pained and hes the president of everybody. He doesnt have to wait for a delta flight. Thank god. Hes up to it and will do it. Back in 45 seconds, well talk a bit about what this week will be about which is one candidate naming the running mate. Well be right back. Coming up meet the press coming up meet the press en it only takes one genius to change a light bulbyou led bulbs use 85 less energy and last a long time, saving you up to 100 over each bulbs lifetime. So change yours today. Down to the election. As voter what would please us more is not a person but pronouncement and victim to constitutional principles. I like the idea of the outsider thing. The insiders will come inside because they want to stay inside. I think newt would hate it its a thankless job thats not his scene and pence may or may not but policies are not the policies. The donald is not shown courage of convictions in issues like that that drive the voters. Interesting on newt, he did a Facebook Live with van jones and sort of measured and thoughtful. And said something that you dont hear often from white politicians, which is its different to be black in america. Its different to be black in america. Newt gingrich important to say it. He would be board to tears. Civil war secretary [ laughter ] he really does have a lot of ideas we have to see the fact he said something brave and courageous in the midst of the heat of the battle and should be acknowledged because important people only people that listen to Newt Gingrich will hear and important for him to say that. Thats a form of unity, as well, to acknowledge a particular privilege and sort of perspective and say the only way we can come together is to acknowledge that. I only have a few seconds left so i want to thank you guys. I was spirited and more importantly friendly. Thats a good moment. [ laughter ] thats all for today. I can kiss you but no. A little unity and levity in a rough week like this is necessary. Well be back next week from the Republican National convention a week from tomorrow, the Republican Convention begins in cleveland. If its sunday and its the convention, its meet the press. 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