Looks like that, thats not very natural. Thats not what a turkey looks like. I would go and i would dump it. The bad processed foods are on the way out. Step two, introduce michelle and her sons to healthy options, whole foods and fresh vegetables. The name of the game is baby steps. Lets talk about our pasta, this is the quinoa pasta, a step up from macaroni and cheese. Do you like this, cauliflower. Do you like it . Yeah. You want a cookie . It is oats, cranberries and raisins. Do you like it . Kids dont lie. Now its time to ramp up the exercise routine, starting with the family trip to the playground. You go to the park with your kids for an hour, try to move for that entire hour as well. This is something you can do, sit down, take the hands just the edge, walk the feet out and we have a little tricep dip. Oh, yes, oh, yes. Its a good start but to drop the 60 pounds, michelle wants to lose, im taking her straight to soul cycle where biggest loser olivia ward is the master of motivation. What are tips you can give to michelle . One choice at a time. Even if you dont make the best choice in a moment, you have a million moments right behind it. No secrets or short cuts here, just perspiration, dedication and a lot of support. You can walk out knowing youve got 70 people in the city that have your back. Wow, nice job. That was a lot. Its a lot but shes so sweet and has these two adorable little boys so well mannered. And i think shes just in a funk. I went there and hope that shes learned its so important to feel good and to exercise and eat well so she can be healthy for her kids. You know what, the kids liked healthy food. I was surprised by that. Were not done with michelle yet. We brought her to new york city and shes here at the hair salon down the street in so ho and with candy and kim and they are going to put together a fabulous look with her. Lets check in with them right now. Candy, how is it going . Were about to start her mascara. And i have a great tip for you. What you want to do is apply one coat of your regular mascara, any loose powder on an ie shadow brush, and tap it on top. It thickens up the lashes. When you go to apply the second coat its going to be thicker and longer and youre going to be like this is the most magical trick i learned all day. Were going to see her in a few minutes but we have to take a break. Well be right back. Up next on the you crew, were taking over times square and grading latest fitness gadgets. Do you think its whacky or worth it . You look like you are working out pretty hard. What do you think, whacky or worth it . Our mom makeover is in the final stretch. Get ready for a major transformation. Wait until you see what she did with the hair, its amazing. Fabulous. Im going to add a little color to her hair. This is a great way for you to decide if you want to color your hair. Highlights are not highlights. That is the question. So im going to do a quick tapein extension to get her ready for her new adventure with color. Were back with a special edition of extra. The you crew. Those girls are good and know what they are doing. Theyve got it under control. So we all know about the corset that promises a smaller waist but there are so many more gadgets on the market that promise these miraculous results with little or no sort of work. Our editor at large at shape magazine hit the streets of new york to test these products and find out if they are just whacky or worth it. Take a look. Were checking out the latest fitness gear and were on a mission to find out if its whacky or worth it. Im real excited for you to check out the urban rebounder, a mini trampoline, get on it and start bouncing. How does it feel . Cool, like im defying gravity. You look pretty good on there. What do you think, whacky or worth it . Worth it. The only thing missing is this cape. Yeah, i feel my heart rate getting up there. You can move around a little bit, get excited. Its definitely worth it though. Have you ever seen this product before . No, no. This is called the shake weight. All you do is you shake it up and down and supposed to give you a great workout. Got any booze in here. Feeling the burn. This is around 20. I want to know, you think its whacky or worth it. Worth it. There you go. What do you think, whacky or worth it . Whacky, this is weird. The grid stk like the foam rollers in the gym, this is good for relieving muscle soreness and muscle recovery after a workout. Like a mini massage. It is nice. Whacky or worth it . Worth it this one. Under 40, what do you think whacky or worth it . I would buy it. I have saved the best for last. This is the stld speed shoe. This is essentially a training tool for people who want to run really quickly. Nfl players youll it all the time. Ready, go whacky or worth it . Worth it. Awesome. Whacky or worth it, 30 bucks. Definitely worth it. You rocked it. Thank you. [ applause ] okay. Were lucky enough now to have he had store at large here with us in the studio. Hello, how are you . Hopefully youve saved the best for last. I absolutely have. We had a lot of fun out there but i had amazing gadgets out here to show you guys as well and well test them. Im in. Think of this as a hybrid between a kettle bell and medicine ball. It looks like a kettle bell. It is filled with water. I can see that. The idea is you can add as much or little as you want. And you do kettle bell workouts or weight workouts. I cant do them in a dress. Want me to try. Thank god im not wearing a dress today, right . What i do usually like this with the kettle ball. Absolutely. This is about 50 bucks but you can use this at home or at the gym. The water sort of gives you your weight, is that what it is . I like that one. Next we move to the body blade, the contraption here. This here. Would you like to try this. Ladies first. That looks really dangerous. This is all about vibrations and exercises, this is going to help with triceps and biceps, you bounce it up and down and you feel the burn. Absolutely right. Like a one hand job or two hand job . Is this where you feel it . You can do it above with one hand or two hands, it depends on the level of effort you want to exert. On the whackier side this is called the rhythm slim and as we get older of course youre going to get that dreaded turkey neck. The idea is to prevent that with the rhythm slim. You put it up against you and press down for three seconds. And you do this for three minutes. The idea is it helps strengthen those muscles. I think you either have to be in a really Good Relationship to have this thing around your house if youre single and show up with someones house and they have that youre like this is 79. Its more of a whacky gadget. Another item is for people who like to workout at night, if you want to run at night. These are fun little reflectors. Safety first. These are cute. Great for trick or treating also. These are easy put them on dog or dont want to get hit by a car. I love that. Last but not least the most whacky item on the table. Wow, that is definitely youre supposed to put it all the way in your mouth, the face slimmer. The idea is once you get it in there it really works it claims to work the muscles around your mouth. And youre supposed to say vowels like o, a, e. Its a good look. How does it feel . Embarrassing. Well, thank you so much, youre the best. [ applause ] thats awesome. Lets check in on our mom who is getting the special treatment over at the salon. Okay, makeover ladies come on in. How are you . Amazing. This is the big reveal, right . Youre ready and excited . Im so excited. Wait till you see. We have to remember, this is what michelle looked like when we first met her in staten island. Okay, and lets see what she looks like today. Michelle. [ cheers and applause ] oh, my gosh. You look amazing. Holy moly girl. Do a little turn. You have to do a little turn. You look amazing. Wow, wow, wow. I know you have not seen yourself yet so were going to stand back and let you sort of take a look in the mirror. [ cheers and applause ] i think what is that called girls, tell us your tips. We did a really quick color. You dont have time to get your hair color, i did an ombre tape in extension highlight. The fastest ombre ive ever seen. Was that painful . She promised she wouldnt hurt me. It looked like fun from what we were seeing here it looked fun. I said there was a little bit of pain because we reshaped her eyebrows, but look how beautiful they look now. Very open your makeup looks fabulous. Its light, you know, not too much. And she said she normally does a dark burgundy lip. So we were going to take her to a new zone in lip color. She got this beautiful outfit lane bryant. Love it. Not only is it gifted to you, you got a 500 gift card so you can buy some more. [ applause ] thats fabulous. That is. I need new clothes. Soul cycle is really vesting investing in you. Olivia wants you to come to her class any time, chargefree. Wow. You should take advantage of that. Thats great. There were two things i wanted to bring to you and gift to you, one would be sort of really great bedding that i think will help you sort of make your bedroom space and bed into an environment that is a little bit of an oasis to escape and relax. I also wanted to give to you some beautiful baskets also from serena and lily so that you can use it to start organizing your own things and sort of thats the idea as you move forward and getting yourself and your home moving in a new direction, i think this is these are going to be the little tools to help you along the way. Congratulations. Well be right back. Press down about three seconds and press up again. The idea is its working those neck and chin muscles. Look, mom, no hands. Were back with a special edition of extra. The you crew. Okay, okay, so its time for a final tip of the day and im going to start with this nugget, this ends up on our coffee tables or cocktail tables depending on how we see them, and its a little disorganized. A great way to keep it organized is a tray and decorative box to keep your stuff in. Its a really easy way to organize and get everything that you need looking good. Keeping it, you know, sort of in a oh, and i like it, hide the remote. Hide the remote. All of this stuff goes in here, really easy access. This is your great looking way to kind of have all of this i like that. All the stuff on your coffee table looks great and still stylish, nice table scape. No excuse for not working out, weve got solutions, dry shampoo that will refresh your hair and save your blowout, put it in a silk scrunchy on the top of the head if youre sweating, the sweat doesnt get to the hair. Thats a big deal. Keep it up on the top of your head. Got it. And i have to something to make everybody look like they got 10 or 12 hours a sleep. I know she didnt get much sleep last night. Not with a teeing baby. Take a concealer shade one to two shades lighter than your own skin and want to apply it in a triangle shape from the inner corner of the eye down the side of the nose to the outer corner and it will look like you slept for days. And having fancy to do. Ill finish the other side. On the one side. I look awake on one side. You look half of the sleep. For me, i am an exercise fanatic, but as i said before, diet is most important element of health. And sugar is our main enemy. So i want to tell you, were only supposed to have six teaspoons a day and nine teaspoons is in one can of soda, can you believe that . Nine. Thats how much soda is in one thats how much sugar is in one code da sewed ka. Soda. Thats a lot. You get that in one cup of coffee or something. My challenge to you my challenge to you see what happens, eliminate sugar for two weeks and youll watch the pounds fly off. Were going to end on a high note. And audience, you guys want to do a little yoga pose with me . Were going to do a little chair pose for the youth group. Stand up, guys. Take your arms up and then make a little y for you crew. I feel the stretch. Especially i wish had a girdle on. Closed captioning and other consideration for extra provided by were back with a special edition of extra. The you crew. 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Oh, it was awful. We couldnt sit down on the main level with family. Reporter why . Michelle wouldnt let us. She barred us. Reporter it was the same at the cemetery. Shes literally trying to get him in the ground before we can even walk up. Reporter you mean get them to fill in the grave . Yes. So, we just immediately jump out of our car and we start rushing to the graveside. And she calls the police on us. She calls the police at my brothers funeral. Reporter yet, for all the chatter about jack, that he might have killed his own son, detective brooks instincts said no. Jacks alibi checked out. He was fixing his roof afternoon of the murder. And those tears in the Interrogation Room i did not feel anything as being fake from mr. Despain. He appeared to be a broken man at that time. Reporter so what to make of the fractured family and all the bad blood now tangled up with so much grief . Detective brooks thought back to his interview with michelles dad, carl, the man who pointed a finger at jack on day one. He told him he didnt want to have nothing to do with him. Reporter carl said hed been in marcs house not too long before the murder, dropped off some rent money. Why didnt they shoot me instead of him . I had the money in my hand. Reporter interesting timing . Coincidence . Or, as detective brooks wondered, did carl have something to do with the murder . Maybe not. Carls alibi checked out. Surveillance cameras, in fact, caught carl right where he said he was around the time marc was gunned down, meeting his daughter at the bank where she worked. He could not have shot marc. While the investigation continued, marcs parents spent time at the cemetery, finally able to do what they couldnt when their son was still alive. Wed talk to him. Talk to marc. And rainy days were the worst. I didnt like rainy days. Reporter what do you mean rainy days . I didnt like him getting wet. I knew he was in heaven. But i just didnt like the rain on him. Reporter and then . Pure luck, really. Remember how neighbors reported seeing an African American stranger in the neighborhood . Now, someone called the cops with a tip. Somebody who matched that description was actually boasting about shooting marc despain. That was a nice, little gift . It was. Reporter didnt take them long to find the guy. Street name, qualow. Real name, terrance barker. And he was nervous. I can see your heart beating through that shirt right now. I know youre scared. Reporter he denied everything. I dont know what to tell you, man. I didnt do this. Reporter detective brooks wasnt buying it. Because by then, the police also tracked down the driver of that beat up blue mercedes seen near the house before the murder. And he told the cops he took qualow to meet a man in a Church Parking lot. And that man wanted a job done. Was that job murder . I didnt do that. I did not do that, sir. Reporter by now detective brooks had been working night and day for a week. His store of patience ran out. This is serious [ bleep ] to me. Ive got three kids that are laying over there crying. Reporter was it that angry speech or another long night in his cell . The next day, qualow, came clean. For a promise of 7 to 10 thousand, still unpaid, he said, he took the job to shoot and kill marc despain. You fired the first round and that round hits him where . It hits in the chest area. Reporter he didnt know marc from adam, he said. It was the man from the parking lot who took him to marcs house, told him where to lie in wait for marc, gave him a gun. And then qualow said something rather surprising. Ive been thinking, like, man, what the what what what in the hell kind of people do [ bleep ] like that . Reporter the shooter who executed a stranger for the mere promise of a few grand, said he was appalled. Not at himself, at the man who hired him. People are something else, man. You know, its especially people that you think care about you and love you. Theyre supposed to be these are the same [ bleep ] that be in your face plotting on you. Reporter if the hitman was telling the truth, detective brooks hunch had been right. Someone who claimed to love marc, also plotted his death. But who . Coming up michelle confesses to an affair. My dad didnt know that. Marc didnt i mean, nobody knew that. And there was another surprise. There were two insurance policies, each for the amount of 500,000. When dateline continues. And the winner of this years superstar. coughs coughing can really be disruptive. With a record breaking fifty million votes, your superstar is. Thats why theres delsym. Delsym helps silence coughs for a full 12 hours with an advanced time release formula for all day or all night relief. Up to twice as long as other cough liquids. So the only sounds youll hear are the ones you want to hear. Bianca cheering delsym. 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She knew what carl was capable of. She divorced him years earlier, she said, to escape his explosions of temper. He never would hit me because he didnt want to leave a mark. Reporter what would he do . He would hold a gun to my head. Reporter hold a gun to your head . Yes. Reporter threaten you . Yes. Reporter still, what would make him mad enough to have marc killed . Confronted, carls face turned to stone. Im not going to say anything without a lawyer, vic. Reporter but, as investigators discovered, carl had been talking to other people, told them marc had been physically abusing michelle, that he was tired of it. Did you investigate whether or not any abuse actually occurred in that marriage . There was not any abuse ever found to have been to have happened. Reporter so if the abuse story was an obvious lie, why did carl do it . Marcs parents were certain he didnt come up with the idea on his own. The real mastermind, they believed, was someone else very close to marc, his wife michelle. I cannot see carl taking my sons life without michelle being involved. Reporter michelle was far from a loving, doting wife, they said. The woman they knew was pure selfinterest, would do anything to get what she wanted. Exhibit a so what was it that just turned marc against you . Michelles manipulation. Reporter it was michelle who pushed marc to break away from the family business, they said. Michelle who tore the family apart by stoking her own daughters allegations of abuse, to drive a permanent wedge between marc and his dad, and get marc and his money all to herself. They could easily see her goading her father into planning a murder. Michelle is a sociopath. She is absolutely cares nothing about anyone or anything but michelle. Reporter quite an allegation, if true. And, as it happened, detective brooks was pretty sure he saw an effort by the grieving widow to manipulate him. Hed interviewed her, of course, right after the murder. I nudged his leg, and i screamed his name again, and he didnt move at all. Reporter all that emotion in her voice, it seemed like an act to him. There was no tears. No tears. Reporter but her voice of desperation captured on the 911 call, surely that was real . Shes not answering the door, okay . Reporter maybe not. One of michelles neighbors said they saw her standing calmly in the middle of the lawn. They see a woman standing out there talking on her phone. Didnt appear to be in a grievous situation for sure. Reporter wasnt like she was calling around the neighborhood for help . No. Reporter and marcs sister still remembered how cool michelle seemed at the crime scene. I think what bothered me the most is how clean she was. Like her hair was still perfect, her nails were still perfect. Reporter what would you have expected . Oh well, as brutal as it sounds, some blood underneath her fingernails or something. Reporter like she got down there and tried to revive him . Something. Reporter so detective brooks took a careful look at michelles story, how she invited marc, who was working from home, to have lunch with her downtown, and then after lunch they went across the street to buy ice cream for dessert. See them here . Marc had literally minutes to live. Phone records showed that in the hours leading up to marcs death, there were calls and a flurry of Text Messages between michelle and her dad. What the investigator found was that there was an enormous amount of texts missing. There were chunks of texts missing from carls phone and from michelles phone. Reporter anything interesting or suspicious about the fact they were missing from both phones . Immediately it was suspicious. Reporter on the day her dad was arrested, detective brooks invited michelle back to the Police Station and asked her, point blank. Did you have anything to do with the murder of your husband . No, sir. No, sir. Reporter but she admitted she was hiding something. Anything at all that you need to get off your chest, michelle . Just that i was seeing a guy that my dad didnt know that. Marc didnt. I mean nobody knew that. Nobody knew that. Reporter seeing a guy . An affair . It all tumbled out. How michelle was dipping into Family Finances to pay for her lovers apartment, for his groceries. You have to understand, im very ashamed of this. Reporter so maybe marc was on to her, was about to find out what michelle was doing behind his back. Marcs parents believed the michelle they knew would rather see her husband dead than risk being on the losing end of a messy divorce. So it was all going to fall apart . Yeah. From trailer trash to a rich woman, so she thought in her mind. She was fixing to going back to being trailer trash again, and she just couldnt stand the thought. Reporter but if marc died we found that there were two insurance policies, each for the amount of 500,000. Reporter thats a healthy chunk of change . Yes, sir. Reporter a whole noxious stew of suspicion by now, but none of it actual proof. Months went by. Michelle went on with her life. Jack and tana pushed investigators to keep going. They even posted a billboard asking the public for help. The idea that michelle might get away with murder was eating jack alive. Youve got a whole lot of anger in there for that woman, havent you . If i could take her life, and bring my son back, id do it. Id do it in a heartbeat. Reporter sometimes its overwhelming, that anger, isnt it . It is. It is. Coming up one more twist. I never dreamed he would do that to me. And justice for mark . Maybe. I wanted answers for reporter jack and tana heard about their sons widow, a new boyfriend on her arm and Life Insurance money in her pocket, and they fumed. Shes buying stuff, and buying clothes, and going to restaurants. And its very hard for us to take. Reporter detective brooks was determined to see the case through. Just like marcs parents, he believed michelle had orchestrated the murder down to the very minute. The shooter himself said as much. Carl was texting with someone, he said, as they made their final plans in the Church Parking lot. Whod he tell you he was texting . The dudes wife. Play by play. Play by play. Reporter but virtually all those texts had been deleted. Detective brooks labored for months, nights, weekends. Kind of got emotionally wrapped up in this one, huh . I kept thinking of the children. I wanted answers for the children. Reporter and then, a breakthrough. Finally nine months after the murder, a Police Analyst managed to recover several deleted Text Messages, including this one, time stamped 8 20 a. M. , five hours before the murder. Michelle writes to her dad, has to be today. Cant live like this. Awful this morning. Her dads response . He asks if she can get him away for lunch, right . Yes. Reporter she says she can . She says she can. And he replies, okay, i will let you know time. My review of some of the Text Messages is that marc really wasnt interested in going to eat lunch that day, but she begged him to take her to lunch. Reporter after lunch, remember, she asked to linger for an ice cream treat. All the while texting her dad, said the prosecutor, tipping him off to marcs whereabouts as carl placed a killer in their home. It just kind of sent chills up my back. What kind of person have you got to be to let your husband walk away from you, knowing what hes going to walk into when he gets home . Reporter armed with their new evidence, Police Arrested michelle. She was charged with capital murder, for planning and orchestrating the crime. She denied it, said she could explain everything, and agreed to tell us. Why should people believe that you had nothing to do with the plot to kill marc . Because i didnt. He was such a good dad. Such a good dad. Anybody that knows me knows that my kids are so important to me, the most important thing, and i would never want them to not have their dad. Reporter but she did want out of the marriage, she said. So, those back and forth texts with her dad that day did involve a plot, just not murder. What did you think he was helping you do . Leave. Reporter how was he going to help you leave . By getting things while we were gone. Reporter so shed keep marc at lunch while carl and two hired hands moved her stuff out of the house. But her dad changed the plan on her, she said, used those men to kill her husband. She swore to us she had no idea when she met her dad at the bank that day what hed just done. Youre this close to each other, father and daughter, and youre looking in his eyes and talking to him. He gives no hint that he just killed your husband . Not at all. Reporter and then michelle whats the expression . Threw her father under the bus. Carl killed marc, she said, not because he thought marc was abusing her, but for money, for a piece of the insurance payout. But you were going to get the insurance . Right. Reporter so even if it was his idea, it makes you look pretty guilty. Right. One thing that he always told me and my sister, growing up was, you know, that he you know, its use people for what you can get out of them, you know. Reporter that was what he told you uhhuh. And i never dreamed he would do it to me, use me. Reporter did he . Or was michelle the clever user . In our interview, michelle denied being a master manipulator. She denied that she stoked those sex abuse allegations or that she engineered marcs split with his parents. For that, she blamed jack and tana. I never wouldve walked away from my kids in the first place. I never wouldve reporter in the end, they didnt walk away from their kid either. Because who was pushing, from day one, to solve the murder . Who kept pushing, month after month after month . My opinion on that is their hatred toward me. It wasnt anything to do with marc. It didnt have anything to do with marc. It was all about jack despains hatred toward me. Reporter you seriously believe that . I do. Reporter michelle, out on bail, waited for trial. Her mother, kathy defended her around town. Did you ever let yourself think she was involved . The daughter i know . The daughter i helped raise . No. Reporter meantime, michelles attorneys, ray nickle and bill stanley, took a closer look at those recovered Text Messages. They filed a motion arguing that investigators didnt obtain them properly. They didnt get a new search warrant every time they searched the phone. Were talking about, i think 15 searches. Yeah. Of michelle and carls phones. And they didnt have 15 search warrants. Reporter their arguments about improper search warrants may have had some traction. With the trial looming, the prosecutor was worried. Were at the high stakes poker game where its all or nothing when that judge rules the next day on whether to admit the evidence or not to admit it. Reporter the prosecutor agreed to Start Talking about a plea deal. The defense played it tough, said michelle was only willing to admit she learned about her fathers plot after the murder. She is admitting to having knowledge of someone being involved and not disclosing that to the police. Reporter she would agree to plead guilty to a charge of hindering apprehension said the defense. After some prayer, marcs mother said she could live with that. Im not a gambling person. And you know, it would only even if wed a went to trial, it wouldve only taken one sympathetic juror to have set her free. Reporter in september, more than three years after the death of her husband, Michelle Despain was sentenced. She left the courtroom in handcuffs mouthing i love you to her mom. Her dad and the shooter got 35 years. But michelle, though sentenced to 30 years, could be out on parole in as little as five. Until then, her mom, kathy will raise the kids. Jack and tana hope one day those kids will want to know them, that they will want to hear about their dad and their love for him that came before all this hate. Some of marcs friends told us that you were his hero, jack. Yeah. Reporter you knew that. I loved him. Reporter im sorry, jack. Jack and tana set up a charity to help other victims of violent crime. Its called marcs place. Were going to try to move forward with something positive that we think marc would be very proud of. Reporter and on a fall sunset, they gathered family and friends together to remember their son and finally say goodbye. I tell people all the time, its hug the ones you love. Let them know, because you never know. The next moment they may be gone. Thats all for now. Im lester holt. Thanks for joining us. This sunday, the senates torture report. 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