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Hits this show you can listen to any way you like you could wear what you like or you can wear nothing at all and you can sit or stand or even squat. I'm squatting and know your host. What. I want to start up no thank you for squatting Todd thank you for being vulnerable and sharing that with the group I am going to talk about something important I'd like of that most of what we do is important but this is key this is something I love I am holding in my hands a book called Is the Bible at fault how the Bible has been misused to justify eville suffering and bizarre behavior. The author is Dr Jerry Patton Gale He's written many many books he's been published in The Wall Street Journal and he is somebody who is currently the executive director of education for the Museum of the Bible holy guacamole Dr Jerry Pangaea welcome the program. Takes. I follow you and enjoyed your work over the years and must tell your audience if they don't already know they should go on and watch your re watch which I've done a couple times here National Prayer Breakfast speech I. I think Kerry gets one of the best speeches for a multi spat multi-faceted special of in recent history I just love it and when you handed President Obama that book you know your Bonhoeffer book I believe just I was seated just few tables in front of you just well what a wonderful what a wonderful event you I remember you you're probably thinking what a self promoting jerk. And he's a Christian I didn't know Christians that that's extraordinary Well thank you for appreciating my moment of chutzpah presidential level chutzpah I do appreciate that now that seriously that was one of the craziest days you can imagine of my life it was a it was that's a definition of God because I How did that whole thing happen well it was it was God it was it was insane but I didn't know you were there that's kind of cool and it was special we just launched the museum I think it was sitting there with. Senator Langford and Steve Green and a couple others it was a special event and everyone listening should should pull that on its own weight so you know I mean listen I tell my friends if you haven't seen it like you're Blige because it's just weird I I do some stuff that I don't want to tip it and I want to tell people what I do because I want them to be surprised but it's a little it's a. Oh wacky So let me courage you to to follow the advice of my new friend Dr Jerry Patton gale all right you know what of that is the title is great is the Bible at fault how the Bible has been misused to justify evil suffering and bizarre behavior everybody goes through life being attacked for you know the Bible says that the Bible says that I mean to me all my friends you know you get that from people so you decided to write a book on this subject Wow Ok what do we need to know what 1st of all why did you write a book on this subject well the main reason was I was asking the publisher were the those owned by had hash it now which is the 3rd largest publisher wonderful editors there. And they had been looking for 3 years for someone to write this and. There's obviously a lot of great authors out there but I've been working on some other books that they were aware of and I'm also writing. The new Fox's Book of Martyrs forward to the House and the series the t.v. In on the spending Christianity and in those studies I've. Hate to say it Eric I've come across so many case said he's We could have 5 or 6 volumes easily. You know so there's so much here and quite frankly going through this cycle university like you have. You know there it just happens quite often where you know you get people say. How can how can I even you know take you seriously I remember I was a Miami of Ohio study that Yamauchi dot you know Mucci I remember I critiqued a paper one time at the end of the seminar a Ph d. So men are a woman was frustrated because a didn't like her review of a book and. She said. You know you patronizing religious fanatic she said you know you believe in you know 100 foot statues of the visions of Jesus Well the situation tall said just taken place where it became public that he had a vision and they were going to med med center and that's how she categorized all the trips she entered in so we weren't taken seriously lead times at the the med center happen. When they built a building and so you know it didn't you know didn't come through you know in the end the good people there in the in the the school I think is on a good track now but. Yes so part of part of it was going through you know the tough research route and my programs and publications and being attacked for things that are bizarre are tough I will tell you one thing on this question you know when the publisher asked me to write this. I said Could I add something to the title because it 1st the title ended suffering how the Bible has been misused to justify evil suffering and to been misused to justify evil and suffering and I said I don't want to write just the really dark part of this because some things are just plain weird or just plain bizarre there's hilarity in them thar hills there's no question that there's really kooky stuff. Yeah so Ok. Yeah yeah so I thought let me start with the chapter on what's happening in Benton Harbor. Because a lot of it was just different now and what is some people really did want to get hurt and harbor I don't know what that is Ok so it in Been harbor the Israelites House of David was found at the turn of last century and then it broke off and to into another fashion between husband and wife it basically they gathered about a 1000 people gifted people like yourself really bought into this a lot of what we're part of the country Ok to Michigan Ok then Harlem Michigan Ok after I don't know anything about you if you get so you say Ok kind of here go to Holland Michigan Holland Michigan yeah. Yeah and so because of that from Holland Michigan Holland Michigan Indiana you'll pass Penn Harbor. You take the exit you go downtown that used to be the site of like a similar pro baseball team played there with this group they had long hair because they took a Nazarite vow and the teacher told him they should look like Jesus and he took his teachings as much from pictures of Jesus as he did from of the vehicle to remember the name and also pay for team were amazed they were called the is really a house of David or the Jesus boys Nagell page called I have seen photos of the House of David baseball team now I'm tracking with you so this was kind of like almost like a cult right like a religious community that took things a little too far. In some directions. Well that's you know as people people been harboring loved him they had outdoor markets they create the invent of the wall full cone bowling pin rack and things like Wait a minute this is right out of this is kingdom of heaven stuff are you serious Yeah invented the while phone. You just say that they invent a waffle cone and the bowling pin rack. What more women you can need this is of God Yeah there you go so what happens is when you go on a gifted people that buy into religious teaching and they give all of their goods to this place well. It just started accumulating wealth and they had a zoo there they had big These these these miniature trains and people came from all over to be with this group Ok when they need a little different they had when we get to the weird part because it sounds awesome . It does sound awesome Well no there here's the weird part so people were coming they would even play the Harlem Globetrotters basketball while they had some dude I waited with because this sounds the greatest group of people I have ever heard about they played the Globetrotters they invented waffle cones I mean this sounds pretty awesome. And so you can see why it was such a shock when in the middle not heat. The police descended on this compound I think was a 1927 and they arrested the founder he used to come out on the balcony and speak to them and then they would take his teachings and go you know about their way and live these taboo life and they would not have any sex so sex is prohibited by this group actually hang out and go we're going to go to break this is too exciting folks the book is called is the Bible at fault how the Bible has been misused to just fight evil suffering and bizarre behavior I'm talking Gerry Patton Gale the author stick around here in Texas show. A. Good Cheer. 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Well they found it found out didn't mince all these unique things happening that everyone loved is that there was a religious ceremony even though he banned sex from everyone there about a 1000 people he had a special initiation rite with all the young girls in which he had asked he was the 7th messenger. That is you know. No listen you know when I hear this you don't even have to say it because what you just said how many times have we heard exactly what you just said how many cult leaders over the decades I can't tell you how many times I've heard this and I knew it was coming as soon as you mention the weird guy at the head of this thing that typically they have like harsh views on sex but inevitably the leader has some special rules kind of carved out for himself and he's you know abusing and using innumerable young women I mean you hear this over and over and over and so you're telling me behind all this good stuff is this the super freak who is clearly not even close to caring about what God says or what the Bible says he's this is all for him. Yeah you're exactly right you know he would he would tell them that he would plant quote unquote the eternal seed within them to this initiation that hey hey guys this is a family show Dr Petit please. So sorry about that but that's about a mile is a catch here and there so by the way sign this is just you know you have to laugh because it's so horrifying that it is horrifying and. That you know sort of like the Shakers you know eventually they would run out of members or 2 members still living I just was a parent time took a picture for the book and. Their 2 men and their eighty's who are wonderful people you know they they believed in the best of this and they didn't know about the worst of it but somehow they still held on so that's that's a hard thing for me and they have a lot of money I think their wealth is $217000000.00 for this place with this gorgeous gorgeous facilities and one of the campuses so if you'll hand. It still there you can see the buildings were just restored let me ask you though once this guy was arrested did they sort of straighten up and fly right is there some redemption here. There seems to be his wife killed often have the young women in another camp down the road which looks like an old. And old defunct Bible camp the facilities are terrible you can if they're still there and they had all kinds of businesses were profitable and they made wooden pallets I think some of the 1st to do that and figured out cross propeller systems for steamships and things like that so they had a business idea that it's either teachings or were always suspect Yeah well like it . Yes Or we won't we do Eric is and then at the end of each chapter is go through and say here's here's some signs of something was wrong here's what the Scripture teaches and sort of like Abba large you know you can put the scripture no the page here's what Pernelle says in the House of David and here's really what you know here's what some orthodox teachers teach from these passages through the years and so it's it's kind of easy to see where it it comes astray and you know one of the saddest things for me I live in Indiana I'm calling from the campus Indiana West and university and. E You know the k.k.k. Was strong here and one of the chapters is on the k.k.k. But it's different and I think it's different in a lot of things that you've seen about the k.k.k. Sort of like your Bonhoeffer book where you show people a different side of on for your you take them the more in depth and the spirituality and so forth and so I look at the k.k.k. And I said What is it about the k.k.k. That created you know following the 250000 members you know. It in the early century and so. You know when I look at their teaching This is a what are they what are they actually teaching out of the Bible because the Bible here so if you look at Jonah 117 you know we all know the story of Jonah and you know and so there was a woman bishop that was their main teacher and she in a publishing her main documents from Indianapolis. And she taught that the fact that the the fish. Vomited Jonah says that even even a fish couldn't stomach a Semite So that shows you that God doesn't want us to tolerate the Simpson mini craze and so that's the Scripture they use totally out of context for their anti-semitic views and I'm thinking. Who in their right mind would believe that well 250000 people don't really believe it but they sign on the dotted line to become well you know it's not it's not that people need to believe it it's that certain number of people need to believe that because my thinking is that typically even in the church there are many people who might otherwise you might be going to a church where all the doctrine is correct. But many of the people who go there are not aware of the doctrine they themselves don't know it they don't believe it they're kind of going with the flow and you find this also with places where the doctrine is wrong I mean I know people who say I am a Muslim and then have a conversation with them as if they really don't know much about the Muslim religion they are culturally Muslim they're kind of going along with it and then there are other people of course who know it in depth but it's fascinating because a lot of these groups you have some people that understand what's being said and there are other people to just kind of along for the ride. And in so many cases the way I look at it I guess is that there's this thing in in history called the Christian church and when you deviate dramatically when you say no no they got it all wrong we've got it figured out you know 99 percent of the time you're wrong you know that that history has been right and when you say no I've got this new revelation or something it's always out of the pit of hell it's always going to harm people it's always going to twist everything in it sounds like you have collected all these chapters telling that story. Yeah that's that's a very good perception I mean you're spot on there you know one of the I nice to that I found in this really just doing the research I'm sure you had a lot of those eureka moments in the books you've done I was researching on the k.k.k. And found out that one of the main churches involved here in Indianapolis is the Inglewood Christian church well it's on the northeast side of Indianapolis and you know since the since books and culture folded and John Wilson is a good friend of both Carson man and love Jim Wilson and yeah well the Inglewood review comes from the Inglewood Christian church was a small Churchill northeast of the Nablus it was right in the center of where the leader of the k.k.k. Lived in fact I found in their minutes they literally fired a pastor for not allowing k.k.k. Meetings in the church and so all these years later is it a great story of redemption where the still the church now has probably one of the most up and coming the strongest even Jellicoe book review publications is in the very church that at one time had lost its way that that is more suspicious Aaron Yeah it's just wonderful and there's a lot of humor in your book I don't want to John Wilson being a friend because to make sense like we appreciate the bizarre and the funny and the and some of this is very sad but some of it is whole areas just because you just can't believe people did this I mean you talk about I mean that you're chapter titles are funny so I want people to know for example attempt at Forth a mishandling Scripture how handling snakes comes back to bite you haha but it's exactly it's exactly right you have another one titled great expectations and the great disappointments of apocalyptic messages before you put your pets to sleep make sure it's really the end of the world that's funny. Yeah you know it's part of this you know people did so many so many of these bizarre things that you know some of us legend we don't really know people stood on their houses waiting for they know the world and you know dressed in their pajamas and you know we don't know some of it's kind of sad if you will is that the Miller writes Yeah yeah during the very good during the miller right time and you know you have a story of actually a wonderful farmer who thought he had a special reading of scripture and he done his homework well it wasn't in line with the commentaries of the time and he counted the days wrong to start was so the when the world didn't end they gave a new date for it yeah and sounds a bit like Harold Camping. Yeah yeah so it's it's like you have this by all accounts that I've read actually a wonderful man and he just you know there's a reason why in the Middle Ages we could size Catholic Church a lot when you're doing history from a Protestant lands but there's a reason why they were afraid of the masses having absence perhaps a little and they were right frankly we're going to be right back folks we're talking to Dr Jerry Patton Gale the author of Is the Bible at fault how the Bible's been misused to justify evil suffering in bizarre behavior stick around. 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And I just laugh and I thought yeah I guess maybe not and I was looking through the book I mean I bought it because I thought I want I really want to see where he's coming from and I had no idea because I used to listen to on the radio and in many ways he was a wonderful person but he got some stuff really really wrong and one of the things he does is he reads the Bible through numerology like it's all about numerology in this number means this in the end it's kind of like it's on the very verge of insanity you can see it basically and a lot of the stuff is like that like people they get a lot right but at some point they decide to veer off and it just takes them we're God would not want us to go and so some of it really is funny and I want to say that so people will buy the book and understand that this is this is not just a bummer this is actually in a way a primmer on how we can go wrong and how we need to be humble and have some humility about how we interpret scripture and try to be careful not to be too original let me put it that way even if you knew a concession a very good example because you know we have this is one of the chapters of the book but you know he and I don't predict in 1904 but he kept having predictions I think the latest was 2011 well that's why I brought it up as when you said the guy the other guy would you know change the date if he screwed up a cycle we missed it let me revise it Harold Camping did precisely that and people did sell everything and they did and here's the here's the saddest thing of all people lose their faith because they're they're broke their hearts are broken that they've been humiliated by trusting in this man's interpretation and of course you know we're not supposed to do that if you're hanging everything on one dude maybe you're not following historical Christianity but and again you know that's the sad side it is and that's what happens even in the snake or shipping churches. You know these are real people the interviews I've done with those pastors you know even the recent journal articles and some some wonderful articles. Show the human side of this but their church is about 20 people and autumn are our relatives and there's about 200 churches now they still have a person like that that people follow in their name with these b 2000 so right you know there and not to be funny here but a lot of the pastors have died off you know their bit by the snakes and that's not all his that's true and that's true yeah and they are not a lot of them there's doods are no ice now and they die you see I've never heard that I mean I. Said and so. Yes So so you know some churches you have a grandfather father and son have all gone through this and one of the cases in the in the book is one of the wives of the pastor's he'd been bitten several times before he died but it one time he lost his finger and it fell off in the yard she went down and grabbed a finger and kept it as a trophy for his faith that way and she said What do you miss We always have what are you I don't understand this was a snake handling calls. Yeah once an avalanche you want out of your finger I would think that you would be bitten and die this is not about losing fingers What do you mean one of the snake bit him in the finger in the finger died they somehow cut off I think the the blood an attorney could or some for the rest of his body and but anyway his finger died and fell off originally you know initially it happens to some people get a snake bitten and never have a meal and she literally. Listens to literally kept it and so what happens and we take the reader sir do the fact that they just misread what's happening at the end of Mark one of the most difficult passages for a lot of people even to include just because it seems to be added on in a later median strip and they take it totally out of context what's even happening there and it's not to prove anything. You know with. Paul gets bitten by a snake elsewhere. It wasn't something he was going out trying to do he wasn't trying to be bitten you know by the snake and elsewhere you know I mean other than in his finger you mean in Mohave you mean in an alter don't you Brother Yes Very good very good so we but you know as far as as far as bizarre things there's actually a heretic 10 cam of Antwerp who literally married a statue of Mary in front of the church a statue 1st of all there's a problem with marrying a statue the Virgin Mary who are you to you know say who he can or cannot marry Ok you need to open your mind brother he wants to actually that's between him and the statue. So I'm going to tell you your audience hears you're so different than the other which I've had a lot of great interviews or radio but I don't imagine you how do you think I could have if I weren't such an idiot just think think Seriously though what what era are we talking about when you say the dude Mary statue what Sarah. Said late middle age is the 10 Kalm were you. We have. A lot of people who are looking for you know for teachers and it's trying to find the exact date here for him because you know he would come in to a city and I think you actually hope very very forgive me for interrupting I didn't realize he just got a couple seconds off we'll be back with a full segment with Jerry Patti I will continue this story just an amazing book is The Bible at fault. 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Ordination even because people follow him he he had this this false sense of confidence which often happens in a cult leader and he put a statue for the church and not only did he get them his church to commission the marriage he also went to the offering plate in each to cut to commission his marrying this statue of Mary right Ok so it became what I'm saying is it became an official marriage and not only did he do that he put an offering plate coffer box like you here in the you're getting your Luther stories. He he put a box in each hand and and had a contest between the men the women to see who loved the Lord the most by paying for this wedding so crazy like it was a fundraiser was the marriage can I ask you the marriage between him and the statue was it without issue. I don't know how I would answer that I mean the answer that question Ok so so what else what else happened by the way the great thing about marrying a statue is no talkback they agree with you and if they don't agree with you you never have to hear about it so this is so sick I can't help joking about it so what what happened to this man tank 10 Chelm of Antwerp. Well eventually the church similar letter and they did come and depose him he would I think put gold in his hair gold threads in his hair and wear these on the ropes and he even took the crosses out of the church at one point I believe and so so he brought a lot of wrath from the officials of the church and finally you know it it brought his own demise and I think it was as much from that as relations with some of the women and so there you have built that part of it again but in the end His Kingdom is you know marry a marble statue you want to have some some ladies on the side who are not made of marble I guess that was his thesis. I mean it's so sick of him but you just can't even believe that this is true that these people are usually these people are very charismatic let's be let's be honest they're very charismatic Yes you know because they are maybe very smart and charismatic they're able to attract followers. And at some point obviously the you know the gig is up but in his case how does it end . Well Nordberg comes and deposes him that's where you say Norbert. Comes in in a letter let me just read a little bit says when he wrote to the church saying you get a helpless and so they ban even the church say goes and preaches in open fields and it says After that the act of seducing women which may have been a trump charge that seem to be added to the heretics wrongdoings that's an editorial comment says this is an original source he moved out of the shadows of the bedrooms and began to preach from the rooftops giving sermons in the open fields surrounded by huge crowds he used to preach as though he were king somebody as people and his followers crowded around him carrying swords and flags and royal insignia He deluded the deluded populace listen to him as though he were an angel of God And so when Norbert came and they finally deposed of the heretic the people were excused because they said that he he was at fault for misleading them as you know as a representative of the church and so in this case it was a whole group of people that were punished it was simply Well Manson Yeah that's because with for the reformation obviously before the Reformation. It's true right I mean by before the Reformation you wouldn't be culpable because you had to follow your religious leader and if your religious leader was was you know off his game you you had to follow on till somebody above him stepped in whereas today we are each held accountable I mean that's one of the good things and bad things about the Reformation but it's just this is amazing stuff. The one thing that did happen where there were there was a cult that followed him and Norbert had to come in and did have to squelch that called have towards So you know there are there are a few cases in the book like this we we cover the prophet Jones from Detroit I don't know if you remember him he's here probably a little young to remember prophet Jones but. Prior generally read. Yeah so it's it's it's it's somewhat in that vein but what happened with Prophet Jones is that. You know he he was called the Messiah in the mean I think from the New York Times. He was given this $13000.00 white mean coat and he would wear it everywhere and he would show up in places with 5 Cadillacs and the sad part is Eric is that he would have offerings he would show up at church at 11 o'clock at night the churches service had been gone for 2 or 3 hours and Innes packed and they would wait for him because they really believe that he had a special touch of the divine and so he he was already walking into a service that had been going on for a couple hours and then he would preach for an hour or so and then he would have them and on some occasions lock the doors and he would start as offering and then he would talk about how God has called them to give and this is a sign that we see over and over again as far as you know people doing you know such things you know for money in the church and then at the end of the e.u. No Some people just didn't have a party to mine to give and so finally he would say you know you at least have to give $3.01 for each part of the Trinity you know and and so obviously what it was in a fire marshall president but. So prophet Jones and he was caught you know in a raid with 2 boys 22 playing tennis in bed I think is what what the account says so playing tennis in bed. Well I read about him is I'm I've ever heard that tops hiking the Appalachian Trail that is so that reasonable that is and that's that is part of the accounts and it's in but it was really a ways where I'm sorry we're going to another break we're going to be right back folks this is so entertaining the. The book is it is the Bible at fault how the Bible's been misused to just fight evil suffering and bizarre behavior. Instead. 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Only one thank you thank you for saying something dumb to make me feel normal Ok so but is that statue still there was it destroyed I mean to be a 1000 years old now you know that's I don't know that well 1000 years the bloom is off the rose at that point she's not get married so let's forget your dish that there is so much in it he said no wonder you're friends with with my friend Jonathan because this stuff is so funny I mean it's it's not only funny it's important but it's nice when something can be funny and important. That the we were talking about the Bishop Jones from Detroit. That is kind of a thing you know like the many people that prey on African-American communities in the urban in the inner cities at Reverend I was like this where they are sort of preaching it's a prosperity gospel you know taken to the next level but that's that's effectively what it is isn't it. He it is and by the way my. Hat goes off really to what they're doing a t.v. In where they're really trying to show a different. A different face of the Gospel the last few years and the t.v. Program I'm working on there I've seen some of the inside work there and they're they're really trying to you know show more of the mainline teaching and outsider to do that program. Just writing the script for. The t.v. Series on the spread of Christianity but I think that they're trying to show a different side a different approach Christianity and then kind of that approach and put a lot of people compliment the new direction Oh absolutely no no absolutely I'm you know that this program airs on t.v. And I'm sitting now in the t.v. And t.v. Studio where we do the radio program and we film it here so yes there are great there are great things happening and it's important that people understand these things because there are so many vulnerable people and when you think of Jonestown obviously the Reverend Jim Jones in that it's always vulnerable people they're looking for something they're looking for hope and some charlatan sometimes the charlatan is is himself deluded but they lead them astray and it's in some cases very tragic as in James Jonestown But yeah there are so so this stuff is it actually ends up being extremely important doesn't it. It does I just came back from Rwanda with Africa new life wonderful ministry and they're excited about the new direction of t.v. And. What Norman told the executive producers doing in. There so we're at a time bags when I say if you do see nor mental just let him know he owes me 40 bucks and I'm just going to you know I'm going to what I'm not even I have patience Ok norm you know we're friends but I need my money pal we're out of time I'm So Sorry dearie this is been a lot of fun for me congratulations on the book and thanks for being my guest. He bad and congrats on all that you're doing your important voice for the kingdom and thanks for having me on you're a very kind sir folks the book is Is the Bible at fault you want to read something funny and important is the Bible at fault by Jerry Patton Thanks for listening. Am 600 w. B.o.b. Jacksonville 101 point one f.m. w 266. Talk. News this hour from townhall dot com I'm Gordon Griffin. 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