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The Coast audience however more than most I've come to appreciate that Columbus certainly wasn't the 1st to discover America in fact he may have been among the last best selling author in the historical thriller genre David as Brody returns to coast in the 1st half David writes tightly woven thrillers about the Pre-Columbian days of America in the exploration of the land from that time he's expressed a strong interest in The Secret History of North America and also in the belief that America was explored and traveled through well before the days of Columbus think Dan Brown but even more prolific much of David's work has been highlighted in his Templars of America series which I believe now number 10 books tonight David joins me to discuss his brand new book another historical thriller called Romero Roman artifacts in America Roman coins and other artifacts scattered around New England and the Ohio River Valley appear to confirm legends of early Romans crossing the Atlantic and yet this evidence remains largely ignored by mainstream historians and archaeologists David will discuss the famous last night legion of Rome about 5000 of Rome's finest soldiers who mysteriously disappeared from the pages of history is it possible the last 9th Legion ended up in the Ohio Valley by way of Jerusalem and what may have they brought and what might they have brought with them it's a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside in the nick Maya dipped in a chocolatey coating David Brody joins me momentarily coming up in the 2nd half another coast favorite Sloane Bella Hollywood psychic medium is back since. 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David s. Broder is a Boston Globe bestselling fiction writer and author of over a dozen novel sees a graduate of Tufts University in Georgetown Law School and a former director of the New England antiquities Research Association and is an avid researcher in the subject of pre-Columbian exploration of America he's frequently appeared as a guest expert on documentaries airing on History Channel Travel Channel p.b.s. The Discovery Channel all 10 of the books in his Templars in America series have been Kindle top 10 bestsellers his latest historical thriller is. Roman artifacts in America David Brody Welcome back to coast how are you I'm doing great thank you for having me Richard. My pleasure Are you Ok with the comparison to Dan Brown or does that irk you are you or are you are you cool with that. I'm fine with that actually many many years ago before anybody ever heard of Dan Brown or anybody ever heard of David Brody we had a mutual. Publicist and she kept trying to have a for whatever reason we never did it and we regretted that but the only great work that very. So the historical thriller genre is it's interesting because when you think of what you have been revealing in the Templars in America series and now in Rome Erica it's pretty thrilling all on its own the idea that the Templars came to America obviously centuries before Columbus perhaps they brought treasures from Solomon's temple or the 2nd Temple buried it somewhere or that the Romans were up and down the Ohio River Valley. 1000 and more years before Colombo. That's pretty thrilling all on its own so why the need to fictionalize it. I think that stems from the way I 1st came out this subject I was a fiction writer before I was a historian and you know I had written 3 legal thrillers I'm a lawyer by training and so I was casting about looking for an idea for what I thought I was doing the my 4th legal thriller and I was living at the time in a town in north of Boston western Massachusetts and we have a local legend my daughter was in 4th grade at the time she came up from school with a story about the legend of the Western Knights the legend being that in the late thirty's 100 Scottish explorers following in the path of the Norse island hop their way across the North Atlantic and ended up in Nova Scotia and then came down the coast to New England in one of their knights one of the members of the party died at night and to memorialize his death they carved in effigy of this fallen night on the rock ledge and that effigy is still visible today in Western and it's called The Legend of the West for night my daughter came home with that stray never heard of before and I was fascinated by it and so I went to the went to view the site and I went to the library to do some reading and some research and talked to some local historians and one thing led to another and it soon became very apparent to me that my legal thriller was not going to be a legal thriller that instead it was going to be something along the lines of what Dan Brown a Democrat years earlier and the Vinci Code and then the deeper I dug into this legend and I discovered that this this group that came over here was connected to the outlaw NY temple ours and that the family that came over built Rosalyn chapel made famous in the divinity code and so not only was this amazing history on our side of the Atlantic but also tied into a lot of the things that was being discussed and debated in the in the in the divinity code so the way I came at it was through sort of the. Actionable. Gateway and because I bumped into so much of Dan Brown stuff and he had just done the stork affection historical thriller that seemed to be the natural way for me to do it I was once told as a young writer that it's best to write about the strike in the same genre that you like to read and I love to read that kind of stuff and so I did it that way it was well received I think there are a lot of people who enjoyed being on a roller coaster ride as they're learning about ancient history and had some success and so here we are It's actually 11 books in the series later and this is still a joiner I write him. So as as the former director of New England antiquities Research Association Yes Were you on friendly turf when you were exploring what we'll call that The Secret History of America pre-Columbian America where they patted go with this kind of stuff. And I'm and I'm the director again I was I was a director then I was sort of bowed out for a while but now I'm back on the board this is a group of amateur historians and amateur archaeologists in New England and are our goals are the groups goal is to figure out who is in America when who builds all these mysterious stone structures and carvings in towers that we find scattered around the landscape in the northeast you know what are the answers so this group this is what we do I mean we go out in the woods and we get down and dirty and then we get together and try to figure it out so the group is incredibly supportive of my research and other researchers essentially it's a you know we're we're we're the ones who are skeptical of what we learned in our high school history classes and were skeptical of what the archaeologists tell us and were skeptical of sort of the mainstream status quo explanations of history and this is again this is what we do my tree my kids they call me a rock. Aka nerd because when I you know when they were young Grayson spent all my time going into the wood looking at rocks and they decide that was the funniest thing that nickname is sort of stuff but they call me the rocket or. You put that on it she sure did that they like that a rock nervous laugh news so. So you've left the Templars in America series aside for the time being and now we're talking about ancient Romans in America and the book begins with the pretty the same protection as Cameron thorn right hired hired by some millionaire to investigate the discovery of what appears to be an ancient Roman ship off the coast apply my land now have been. Such discoveries that maybe we haven't heard about in North America South America these ancient Roman ships as a matter of fact that's what got me started I think 2 things that may start a missile get to the 2nd one probably later when we get to talking about the Ohio River Valley in the in the lot for only 2 that you can do that in your introduction that was one thing book written by Rick wasn't the 2nd thing though was it was a this is a reader who became a friend who contacted me 70 years ago because he himself was involved in some treasure hunting and had. Discovered what he believed to be and believe to be an ancient Roman shipwreck off the coast of the north shore of Massachusetts and his problem is that the way things are set up legally this is one reason why he came to me was interested in from a legal advice is that the way things are set up is that for him to gain jurisdiction over this fine he'd 1st need to file a petition with the Massachusetts state government but part of that petition includes specific information about where the find isn't and information that will allow other treasure hunters to basically jump to find while he's tied up in the procedural. Labyrinth of trying to get permission to do his dig and so essentially he can't really file the paperwork because he'll lose his dig a loses the lose whatever is there someone will jump is fine and so it basically sits there and he's he's not sure what to do and it's a real shame if he has unlimited funds he could pay to have a patrol out there but he doesn't and so it's vis it's this. Possibility that got me thinking this along with the reality of there being I'm number of examples in incidents of Roman era Corning's washing ashore along the north shore of Massachusetts after major storms and 6 or 7 different locations on the North Shore where Roman coins have come ashore and some point you can sort of explain away one or 2 of them moon and see that many Roman coins sort of clustered in a 10 mile area it started to fall back to Ockham's Razor which probably means the simplest explanation is there's a Roman ship or ships wrecked out there and as the storms come through the ship wrecks get disturbed and whatever was sitting there gets blown of gets disturbed and washed ashore and metal detectors now know enough to go out there especially when Strong comes up from the south and they go out there and they find these coins so if the ship itself and then these recurring finds of Roman era coins many of them clustered around the 2nd century is really what got me looking and going down this rabbit hole of is there something more about this this Roman possibilities are enough evidence to build a book around and the fact that you and I are talking about tonight indicates the answer to that question in my mind was yes. I love some of the explanations the more prosaic x. Well they're not even prosaic I mean they're ridiculous but some of the. Explanations that I guess more mainstream historians or archaeologists have tried to offer up as as to why these coins have been found and you've talked to me about these before but could you share some of these with the coast audience because they're actually quite hysterical they really aren't And really what this basically is is the mainstream academic types. Contorting themselves into into some kind of. Why don't we position that will allow them to explain this away without admitting the possibility of there actually haven't been a Roman ship so for example the Sea Eagles picked up the corn in the Mediterranean flew across the Atlantic and dumped them on our shore I mean if this is who we need when you find some of these finds are as many as 2 dozen coins to see just filling up a 2nd example that I heard of this was actually him in a Massachusetts hearing involving coins found on Plum Island in New report Massachusetts and and again the way the process works is once you find the coins technically they belong to the state and so if you want to keep them you need to file a petition and in order for the state to release them to this underwater archaeology board has to make a determination that they are of no historical significance and otherwise In other words they don't really matter you can keep them Richard you get to keep your coins we don't believe they're anything important and the way they got to the decision in the case in new Freeport was one of the members of the boards and wow I know somebody down in New Jersey and he had grandkids a nice and very pennies and nickels and dimes at the beach and let the grandkids dig them out and someone else will maybe that's what happened here and and all of a sudden they all jump in and that's the actual written decision was. Because we find it is likely that these were buried by a grandparent looking to have fun with his grandkids we therefore let you keep the coins and that sort of thing that's the explanation they gave for how these coins got here and then the other one I know I've heard before is that these coins were or ballast on colonial era ships and I suppose you could find a couple coins that maybe would made their way into the into the ballast debris or whatever but the idea that that that colonial era ships would use Roman points as balanced as opposed to just stones and rocks and stuff is equally silly So these are just 3 examples of some of the really crazy explanations we get and again I go back to Optimus razor and maybe we should open our eyes to the possibility that a Roman era ship either intentionally or accidentally blown off course found its way across the Atlantic was shipwrecked here and then maybe other ones Peter came to look for it or fold it over and that's why we have Roman Corning's and other artifacts on our on our on our land to meet maybe at some point they made their way over here and what's with them for at least open up our idea I I see the possibility. Roman artifacts in America David Brody my guest here on coast to coast am if even if there's a possibility that there is a sunken Roman ancient Roman vessel off the coast of Massachusetts I would think that would be maybe not above the front page news maybe below the fold but still I mean because that that that changes everything doesn't it to me it's got to be above the fold I would hope it and it but I'm not 100 percent positive that the friend I have who claims he has to as evidence of a Roman airship I'm not sure he's right about that look I don't know you know if it's possible I would love him to figure out a way to divest a gate that but I do know there is lots of evidence both in. New England and in the Ohio River valley of some kind of Roman era presidents having been here now I might not have all the details right and you know my book is fictional So there's I think a little bit of poetic license but there's there is a story to be told here I mean and it's something we need to figure it out and I do think it should be above the fold but difficult back to the whole idea in your introduction you talked about Columbus you know we've kicked that door down I think it's a whether it was the temple ours or the Celts or the Phoenicians or the Romans or whoever it was you want to say the was here before the Minoans whoever you want to say was here before Columbus I think we most people now recognize that Columbus was late to the party and so once you open up your mind to him you realize the Phoenicians and the Romans the ships that we're talking about were 3 times as large as what Columbus had and the Phoenicians who you know we were the base of the Merchant Marine of the ancient world were amazing navigators could sail by night and they basically taught the Romans had to do all the stuff anyway the idea that that nobody cross the Atlantic before Columbus to me that would be way more surprising then that people see it through let's talk about some of the coins and you have photographs of some of these artifacts in Rome Erica. Usually we can we can date them based on I guess the Emperor of the Roman emperor that's stamped on these coins exactly so what's the date which Emperor are we seeing on these points though so most of the coins are not on but most of the coins that we're talking about both in New England and in the Ohio River Valley tend to be around the 2nd century some are a little bit earlier some of them later but I basically went with there and then you're right every time there's a coin it's very easy to date it's really wonderful for historians because we know pretty much the exact date of the coin based on the the. The face stamped on the front and we have other signs We'll get to that later I'm sure other artifacts that we've we've been able to today using thermal luminescence and other kind of scientific methodology that again date back to the 2nd century but right these coins. And tend to be clustered around the 2nd century and that's where I go with my story i Pad I attack him students that were a purring in the Mediterranean region in the 2nd century and that's sort of how I see your eyes how this group came across and why they came across and who they were and what they were doing but again the clutter tends to be 2nd best. All right David will pick this up on the other side row Merica ancient Roman artifacts in America David s. Broder be my guest stay with us right here on coast to coast am. I . 2020 taught us that the Internet is even more awesome than we thought groceries movies doctor visits and of course going to the post office with Stamps dot com over 900000 small businesses use stamps dot com to save time and money and so can you Stamps dot com brings the services of the post office and u.p.s. 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Do the 9th Legion which if you don't mind we can will we are going to talk about them now would you want to stay with the coins Richard or or would you want. To Well let's talk about the night Legion 1st of all. They Well you tell us who the night Legion wise and and when they supposedly vanished from the history books Right exactly so that's Yvette's That's exactly it so they were stationed in Great Britain in England for a number of of decades and they basically built Hadrian's wall that was probably the same era most famous for the wall that separated the wild. Tribesmen of the north Scotland from the rest of England basically the Romans were able to sort of tame Anglin up and kill up with up to Stalin but above north of there they were just too wild they couldn't do it so they built this giant wall across the entire countryside and this was this was the famous 9th Legion that was in the or up until the early part of the 2nd century and then I my research revealed that after that around 13280 the 9th Legion was redeployed to help put down a rebellion in Jerusalem now. As a bar cop uprising by popular revolt your listeners probably remember that in 66 to say 70 a.d. There was a major Jewish uprising that the Romans put down called King Herod's war but there was a secondary one a couple generations later that again was put down in this time again the 9th Legion of one of the legions that went over to help suppress the uprising what happened to the nightly Legion after that is one of the mysteries of history again we're talking probably $5000.00 troops in another $5000.00 hangers on whether Non non military. Members of that Legion so probably 10000 people and the Romans kept traditionally very careful records in the history books are pretty good about finding where these people ended up and for some reason they just disappeared after after the bar popular uprising was put down and so you know the old cliche follow the money you know what where did they go and more importantly why would they potentially have done that and they start looking at what happened during the uprising in Jerusalem and one of the things that happened was that the temple treasures that the gold that goes all the way back to the time of King Solomon and along with all the other treasures like the golden menorah and the Ark of the Covenant and the rod of Aaron and all sorts of things that were kept as as part of the the furnishings of the of the Temple of Solomon all of this would have been hidden by the custodians of the priestly families the Levitz who were in charge of the stuff would have been hidden before the Romans arrived and what happened after like where did all the stuff go we've never seen it again but at some point a number of these priestly families I think cut a deal with whatever Roman forces happened to be there at the time and again I think it was an eye. Legion and the deal basically was look we've got all this gold but we want to freedom can we can we ransom our lives back and the Romans the 9th legions basically said yeah we don't but we're not taking it back to roll we don't want to share this with the Emperor and that's how they found their way across the Atlantic to to America it was a safe haven and I think it was a combination of members of the 9th Legion along with the priestly family and that's why when we get to the Ohio River Valley we find not only Roman era artifacts including coins that are from the bar copied uprising itself but we also find artifacts that are Jewish in nature so I think that's how we as how we sort of explain both the Roman and the Jewish era 2nd century artifacts in the Ohio River Valley. This just gets better and better so. I would imagine many of these artifacts after the 2nd Temple was destroyed around $7080.00 would have been. Like the Koran caves right that's where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls. That book and so a lot of them are moved in then and then some of them with look some of them were taken by Rome is that there's a the ark the famous Arch of Titus you know with a carving showing Roman soldiers carrying many of the temple treasures into Rome for we know a lot of them were taken and some of them may have been brought back at some point we're not sure of a definite one of them were taken in the 1st uprising but there's something called the copper school of Qumran which was one of the Dead Sea Scrolls of one not is not impartial but actually copper school and it lists the temple treasures that were were secreted in hidden during the bar hop uprising and the value of those treasures in in modern day dollars is $1500000000.00 and. The scroll lists 70 different locations where these fences were were hidden and they were very common like you know in in the laundry room of somebody's house of under the fig tree and it was written in such a way that they'd be able to find them once the once the Roman for World War 2 were of evicted which of ever it happening course but it was sort of in a very close feel terms now there were believe the belief is that there were 2 copies of one of these ricin was hidden in the caves of of Cooper on the 2nd one apparently is the one that the 9th Legion somehow got hold of even given it or found it and that's the one that allowed them I think to dig up many of these freshers and found them. Well it's also rumored that the treasure map the Copper Scroll also possibly leads to the Ark of the Covenant and I know that's pretty well trodden territory the idea of the Ark coming over to America but what do you think. Yes So it's a possibility it's a gets a golden menorah in the golden north is the artifact I use in this particular story partly because they are going to come and sort of been done before you know rate of the Lost Ark it's it's a little bit overdone as far as fiction and there's no real evidence showing that that it's here I think it's definitely a possibility as you suggest the golden menorah is. Is one of those artifacts it is straight is. More important in Judaism than in other religions where they are going to covenant I think is important to all the Abramoff religions both Christianity and Islam as well and so what I wanted to do in my story was somehow motivate them aside the modern day Israeli intelligence to get involved in the story and so I chose a golden menorah I don't get too deep into that but basically one of the things that one of the debates at that's ongoing in Israel is whether or not the 3rd temple should be built the 1st temple was destroyed. By the Babylonians in I believe the 6 century b.c. The 2nd Temple Herod's Temple was destroyed and 70. By the Romans and then the question's always been whether to build the 3rd temple and one of the arguments against it is we can't build the temple until we have all the treasures of the gold menorah and the temple issue read and all the things that God told us that will support in it so we get those back we can't rebuild and so the gold menorah has particular significance to those who want to rebuild the 3rd temple the feeling being once that is found that will open the door to to the possibility to rebuild that and of course that will really set the match to the tinderbox that is in Middle East because there's no way the Muslims who are you know who view that area as sacred to them selves as well would allow the Jews to rebuild the temple or the Dome of the rock and the awful mosque and that kind of thing so so it's a real tinderbox ever the gold menorah if it were that to be found would set that whole thing off again. And there is there evidence that the golden menorah may be in America. And there's not evidence no none that I found that that's one of the that's one of the artifacts like the Ark of the covenant that has disappeared in it maybe the Goldman or there is a little bit of evidence that perhaps the Vatican has custody of it. It's strange because all of the things all of the treasures that are listed in the Book of Exodus as far as far as being part of what we call the tabernacle the Holy of Holies all the things the Ark of the covenant the staff of the rod of Aaron the pot of men the tables through bread the gold the menorah all of the things are missing so it's not just like we're missing one or 2 of them everything's missing and so that leads me to believe that everything at a certain point through probably these uprisings was taken and hidden in a in a in a single place or perhaps in multiple places but by a single group of people probably the v. The Levy family the Levi families of the priestly families named named in the Old Testament as being the custodians and the caretakers of the temple and it's treasures. So you mentioned this the 2nd Jewish revolt 132 a.d. The bar hopping revolt against the Romans that was perhaps but I guess was put down by this Legion. And so they actually issued commemorating the Bar Kochba uprising and that's what they found in the Ohio Valley right right so a month of course among the many Roman coins Roman era coins found in the Ohio River Valley. Is or are a number 3 or 4 different bar copper coins so far capo was with it when the Freedom Fighter Simon bar hop to. Hop in means son of the star and they basically called him the common son of the from the common the synonym and the battle cry of the revolt with a comet for the Jews and so they issued coins as a common during that time period and these are copper coins with the name bar copyright on them are some of the coins that were found in the Ohio River Valley the 2nd century coins that perfectly match you know what I was when I was writing about my story I was I was thrilled to find that they were actually there with even more interesting Richard is another artifact which I had written about before but not in this context something called the bat Creek stone which was a Hebrew carving found in a barrier Cherokee burial mound by a Smithsonian archaeologist in the late eighty's hundreds and for many years it was displayed at the Smithsonian upside down the belief being that it was a Cherokee script of some kind and at one point in 1950 s. a Jewish patent lawyer from Chicago who happened to be studying ancient Jewish artifacts walk through the Smithsonian said wait a 2nd if you turn that upside down it's it's paleo Hebrew it's 2nd century Hebrew and in fact the translation of it is a comet for the Jews it's the exact battle cry that the Bar Kochba freedom fighters . For using So this ties things really tightly together and even more the point there was an irresponsible here a wooden earring type thing found with a stone that was carbon dated back to that same time period so we start looking at that and say wow that that's an awful lot of coincidence to have the same battle cry used in the uprising carved onto a stone found in a burial mound in the Ohio River Valley dating back to the same time pay back to the 2nd 2nd century and that's not the only Jewish artifact there's also something called the Decca logs still found a new in Newark Ohio again i River Valley it has the. Carving of Moses with his name on it and around the perimeter of the stone it's about the size of a of a channel clicker for your television set is the 10 Commandments carved in Hebrew the wooden platform upon which this this carving was found sat of that sat upon this car this wooden platform was itself carbon dated to around $135.00 a.d. Again another perfect match for the same time period the question has to be asked Why are Jewish artifacts in the Ohio River Valley dating back to the 2nd century who could possibly have carved the even the Romans were here they wouldn't do it and had to be Romans with some Jews along with them and that's where we get the treasure right I don't need his sounds like pretty much a slam dunk now you're a lawyer if you had to present this evidence in a court. How do you what would your chances be do you think do you think you'd win I think the president I do think I would when I didn't and one of the one of the litmus tests I use when I sit down to write a story is I always say I go down the rabbit hole and I get I gather evidence and I come back up and I set my evidence on my desk and I look at and say what I'd be comfortable making this case to a jury because that's really what my readers are they're my jury I mean if I if I can't sell the case to vem then I do them on. Going to write the story I'll find something else to write about and I honestly did not think that there would be enough Roman era evidence I just didn't know I didn't know about it I did it and put all the pieces together I was blown away by how much there was and example of that is typically it takes me 6 or 7 months to write a book and this one I wrote it in 100 in one day so 6 feel 6 months 3 months and then 11 days twice as fast as normal and the reason for that was because the evidence was just so overwhelming the book basically wrote itself it just sort of poured out of me and in the heart of course or in a pandemic and so it was in a lot of other things to keep me occupied but this one there was just so much evidence and so yes I would be very complementary in this case to a jury. 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Monument came from and how they were on earth the researchers revealed in 29000 the stones came from an ancient quarry on the north side of the Presley hills in western Wales which meant the 43 huge blue stones had been moved a staggering distance of 150 miles I'm guessing they didn't know you all now archaeologists have said they think some of the blue stones 1st formed another stone circle close to the same area as the quarries and were dismantled and rebuilt as part of Stonehenge on the cells very plain the identical 110 meter diameters of the stone circle known as one Mon and the enclosing ditch of Stonehenge suggest that at least part of the circle was brought from its location in Wales to cells very plain this according to new research published in The Journal and. 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It surely they must of left things like shields helmets and swards along the way breastplates all of these right wonderful I don't know our whole would have been the full but the full Legion by the way Richard I think probably what would have happened was in this $1500000000.00 worth of treasure and I'm guessing the top guy said you know what let's not share this with with infantry men let's let's both think are you know 2 or 300 of us wanted to ship for us and we'll keep this for ourselves so I don't think it was 5000 was probably. A few 100 individuals and I also think they likely if they did land along the New England coast which I do think they did I'm guessing that at some point they figured out that the best way to access the Ohio River Valley would be go back to their ships and come back down around into the Gulf of Mexico up the Mississippi and in through the Ohio River Valley on the Ohio River going eastward but also they cross I'm just not sure but you make a good point that they should have left other artifacts and in fact in the Ohio River Valley we do find something that you mentioned before the break called the Brandenburg stone and that's a still now. In Kentucky was was found and on that stone is is Welsh writing and that makes sense because even though it's a Roman legion the Legion was was stationed in England for many generations many of its members would have been well speaking and so it makes sense that they would have written a stone in Welsh and in fact the Brandenburg stone itself essentially is a is a Landmarker it divides up the land to the errors of whoever carved it which again is another common European tradition and so we do have that in addition nearby to that in an area called city called Clarksville Indiana which is across the Ohio river from Louisville Kentucky and Kargil is named for George Rogers Clark who's the older brother of Clark from Lewis and Clark fame. He was an self an amateur historian he writes in his in his journals about finding armor clad skeletons that he believed were wells because of some of the designs in the writing on the on the armor so we do find armor and well as Welsh armor and skeletons and then also. The forts of Fortress Roman style fortresses again right up right up river from where. George Rogers Clark noticed the the armor in the skeletons. The University of I believe it was Indiana I'm on the show I get that correctly the university did an archaeological dig in that area and concluded that this is a 3rd century 2nd or 3rd century era for in the Roman style so we have a lot of evidence in the Ohio River valley of of. Of of a presence of Roman. Peoples there in the 2nd 3rd century. They'd likely I'm guessing what if they countered such America's 1st Peoples and Aboriginals were not native americans any anything in the oral tradition of any of these nations so that alludes to encounters with what may have been these members of the Knights Legion. Very much so and this is where. It was interesting to me because I had written about a lot of the scenes in this and these artifacts in prior books so the that that creaks and I mentioned I read about that before the branches birds and I read about that before I'd also written about a Native American tribe Amanda and try them and call the the white Indians I read about them before and the prevailing theory always been that they were descendants of Welsh explorers again that makes sense but the particular Welsh prince made ox who is a 7th or perhaps 11 century Prince the historical sources differ on that but one of the theories was a he came over during that time period and that these were these men then Indians where the descendants of made off and his and his crew members. But the the artifacts again all our earlier than made up there are a lot of 2nd and 3rd century artifacts and so that doesn't really hold together however if the Welsh came over in the 2nd century as I theorized and not later with made a lot then the whole idea of the men then tried being Welsh still makes sense of the reason people think they were they descend from Welsh is the earliest pioneers who went out and met them and counted them said basically said they speak a Welsh language like language and that their appearance and a lot of their customs and a lot of their their their For example their housing whatever. It was very European and English there was in particular. A lawyer who ended up studying the Native American tribes he spent 6 years living with the western tribes the name was George Callan and he lived amongst other tribes he lived with the men then and he wrote and I can read it all quoted quote I am fully convinced that the men then have sprung from some other origin than that of other Native American tribes a stranger in the men then villages that once disposed to exclaim these are not Indians there are a great many of these people whose skin are almost white with Hazel with grey and with blue eyes so right away jumps out at you and again as you mention the fact that they are there they live in villages where the other western tribes were more nomadic their design of their canoes is very similar to what we find in the British Isles a lot of the religious practices were reminiscent of some early Christianity type things and so there's a lot of evidence for the most striking again was Europe a their appearance and be their language so it's entirely possible that this group of of Roman. Soldiers slay eventually took native wife and what we end up with is. Down the road a Native American tribe that exhibited European tendencies and that's all we have with the man then known for to the minimal wiped out by a small smallpox outbreak in the Mid a few 100 so we can't really even doing the d.n.a. Testing or anything with them but but that that sort of holds together you know again and when I when I get started on this I look for evidence and and the evidence needs to hold together right 7 evidence professors said when you when you put together the theory of your case you have to use every single piece of evidence and had every piece has to fit in if you if you have pieces of evidence that don't fit the theory then you need to revise your theory and so this fit together really nice. It's remarkable as I'm hearing as I'm just stunned really and. You know you and I have talked about this before and I still don't understand maybe I do why this is not more widely known and is it because. Maybe there's not a deliberate attempt to suppress this information there's no conspiracy per se but it it's because it would change everything our textbooks would have to be written. Professors who could you know they've they've staked their entire careers on a false premise tenure is at stake here is that the reason that I think I do think that's all I some I debate this with other fellow researchers a lot of them think there's a vast conspiracy you know there's something nefarious going on I don't believe that the so I think it's what you just said Richard which is it has to do with stubbornness has to do with ready Taishan has to do with just human nature not wanting to meet you're wrong. To do I think. The you know academic types tend to run with their own crowd in this goes back to even the underwater archaeology board that I mentioned in the 1st hour you know wanting to open the door to the possibility that. The accepted. Paradigm might be wrong because again they're going to be teased at cocktail parties and they're not going to make tenure like you said it's just that it's not it's not nefarious as much as it is just human nature people just don't like to be to be told that they're wrong and so I think that's all that's happening here but it is incredibly frustrating especially in light of all this evidence Now having said that I happy to report that I've been doing this for about 12 or 13 years beating this drum and there has been a significant change in that 12 years we're having you know I when I 1st started doing these radio interviews I talk about the Templars in America before Columbus and people would say wait what what we what some was here before Columbus and now it's it's very very much accepted as people go of course and they'll forget the Phoenicians were here too and then the Irish Celts and and so we have managed to to redirect the ocean liner over the past decade or so perhaps not as much as as we could but I would like to think that you know 10 or 12 years from now we will be much more even more open to these ideas and as people like you in the face of the alpha dog of the late night radio. That's right it will be it'll become mainstream people are lining up to speak with you David So let's dive into the calls east of the Rockies William is in Minnesota William welcome to coast alone this is William about 20 years ago I was at my brother's house on the north shore of Lake Minnetonka here in many so I'm in Minnesota and I found a Roman coin and has the emperor Diocletian on the front side of it and I think it's from about the year 300 a.d. Yes so you wouldn't believe William many times I hear these stories and again it's possible occasionally a coin collector that's the other one Richard we can talk about. The coin collector who goes to the beach and loses his coing that's the other one we hear from the experts a lot as you're short yeah that's what happened if you know William so how you and I will meet at the beach I'll bring the the umbrella and the beach towels and you bring the cooler and your coin collection we'll go to the beach the other people don't bring their coin collection to the beach but yeah there's there's just too many of these and it's possible that an occasional calling gets lost by a collector on the beach as you just found William but happen so often that I have to think there isn't another story behind it and what you said along a waterway Lake Minnetonka is that connected to the Mississippi River in any way or river way a major river in that area I think it's said Brian many car Creek Ok so I had it with a proposal is that would have been the type of area where you'd expect ancient explorers to be you know we know the Kensington Runestone in Minnesota of course that's a famous artifact in Minnesota but but but I think when you're what you're finding is is what I found in doing my research which is there's literally hundreds of examples of Roman era coins scattered across the. Country and actually one of the interesting things Richard about that is there was has never been a single coin found west of the Rocky Mountains so either there are no collectors west of the Rockies slippery fingered collectors right the Rockies or this sort of proves what we think which is you know they didn't cross over the could they couldn't cross the mountains and so all the coins are found in the eastern 2 thirds of the country. Will Have you ever had the coin appraised what would that be worse I wonder I looked on the Internet it's worth about $150.00. Is that all really I'm surprised you know were there other morning Tom and apparently I mean you could resist these are so common these coins are so common in Europe you find them all the time on far. In England in France and Russia so Spain they're really not all that rare they're rare in the United States of course but there's so many of them across Europe that they're not worth all that much. All right well thank you great call let's say hi to Joshua He's in Seattle Josh welcome to coast. Joshua are you there. Going once twice All right we'll put Josh back on hold and maybe he's wanted to wait for the phone let's say hi to Dave in Colorado Hey Dave welcome to coast a real good guys guys. Guess David correct yes yeah he a as such where answered my question but and there was a really any data of American folklore or stories Herman down since apparently they had no written language about any Roman or so Spanish. Harmer's or somebody just bringing in their booty if you will onto the Americas and they should been passed down from generation to generation with the Native Americans and I'm my question. Did you do any research on that and are there any tribes out there I would love to list some east coast tribes about that question yes or the problem of these because tribes most of them most of their oral history was lost because so many of them are wiped out there in the colonization period when we have really rich Native American history tends to be from the Midwest and from the plains and from the southwest so the manned and tribe Unfortunately they are also wiped out by smallpox so we lost we lost there all of history but we do have is rich oral history from. When the William called from Minnesota from from the Great Lakes region Lake Superior Lake Michigan one of the things that the early call innocent settlers talked about was the Native American tribes Digital other tribes and they're often spoke of ancient Mediterranean peoples coming to the Great Lakes region to mine and trade for a copper as part of the copper culture in needed tons of copper to fuel the bronze age in Europe so we're talking maybe 3000 years ago in that range get caught. Bronze was 90 percent copper and 10 percent and 15 came from the southern coast of England Cornwall some copper came from there from copper sources in Europe and in Africa but not in the fuel the huge demand and still the police were great people there is and has many stories we're going to pick up on that point sorry the pardon the interruption David on the other side I love talking about the Phoenicians and these giant copper mines will come right back Betty right with. 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If you thought of the fun and I'm a private investigator for the investigation the friend of well I'm waiting for someone to come on that I would think who I am what he would say I was wondering if he has considered the possibility that this could be one of the Lost Tribes of Israel. Hi Bobbie. You know people have talked frequently we get that we can that's a possibility whenever there are. On explain or mysterious groups of explorers I know that the for example the Cherokee tribe the Eastern Band of Cherokee they recently did some d.n.a. Testing and and found out that they're related to ancient Jews and they actually change their their tribal flags and put the Star of David on it and one of their theories is that perhaps one of the lost tribes came over here and they descend from that. That possibility I think in this particular case because so many the artifacts are specifically Roman there is some Jewish influence as I mentioned but most of them are just just specifically Roman and 2nd century is a little bit late for the lost tribe so I think in this particular case no but I do think you open up a possible interesting possibility for other groups the lost tribe may have come over earlier than that. Great question Bobbie thank you that's amazing they place the Star of David on there Flake the eastern share the Eastern Band Cherokee so the main the main band of Cherokee the course the Trail of Tears and ended up in the Oklahoma area but a group of Cherokee didn't leave and it's that group a smaller group of Cherokee called the Eastern band that has done testing and again is actually change of air their tribal flag it's pretty interesting story. Oh my lord the hits just keep on coming David is absolutely remarkable. Cliff is in New Orleans Cliff good morning welcome to coast Richard and how your doing this morning a cliff terrific thank you let's remember Roman this is the 1st I've heard of the Roman hour ever there's a God there's got to where you 2 general there's a name is Terry Carter and he has found some rejection groups out in I want to trace Arizona New Mexico maybe even Colorado are no up in Utah. Are you familiar with the I've heard of that I mean I haven't actually seen them I was out in Arizona a number of years ago doing research something called the Tucson lead artifacts they weren't Egyptian but they were potentially related to Hebrew in Temple or and stuff like that but they were more like 7 or 800 a.d. The Egyptian thing you know you hear a lot about. Mommy's Gyptian an Egyptian style mummies here of course the the pyramids of Mexico and Central America. The thing about the Egyptians is a typically did not like to go out into the open seas they use the Phoenicians as their merchant marine They basically you know let the Phoenicians do their do their through their their dirty work but having said that that's not the 1st I've heard of of Egyptian. Artifacts and writings and scripts in the America so look I've been doing this you know I've been driving for 12 years at this point nothing would surprise me so people I think the human condition is as a used to say that Star Trek episode to seek out new life and new civilization to boldly go where no one's gone before and couple that with the idea that the Atlantic Ocean really is a highway not a barrier and I think we have to be open to all possibilities. Great call list so back to the Phoenicians because we're talking Romans 2nd century a.d. But if we're talking about the Phoenicians coming to mine copper on the south shore of Lake Superior to really fuel the Bronze Age we're talking about I think you said 3000 years ago when I we're talking probably thousands of years ago where the Romans and the finish an empire you know really was at its heyday before the look they had a pool of wars with the Romans in what $300.00 b.c. In that range for a b.c. In that range but the Phoenician. Empire predated the Roman Empire there was a crossover of course and I think it's important to know when I talk about the Romans being here and using the Phoenicians as an example once a Romans defeated the Phoenicians a lot of the Phoenician culture the maritime culture especially was sort of absorbed by the Roman Empire and so a lot of these people who would have been sailing the Roman ships and navigating the Roman ships and building the Roman ships probably descended from the earlier Phoenician So you know I think it's sort of absorb a culture once you can. Anchorage and so that's how they would have known how to sail and how to get across how to navigate how the builders of all that stuff so you were talking ancient culture they one merges into the other that's original not sure exactly answer your question is that Ok with it was something else you wanted for that answer. But I just I had more. With that with the Phoenicians I mean how I mean I'm just trying to imagine bringing back that copper and I guess it would be would it be. Copper or. Back to Europe in these ships how big would they have been. So what would happen in the Great Lakes of the Gulf flow copper I mean typically again one of the reasons people say why would you come only crossing into the a copper when there is some copper in in Europe in Africa one of the reasons why the stuff in the Great Lakes is just floating there to sitting there on top enough to go down into the mines and ship it out it was to get help flow copper and in fact in one of these ancient mines they found. A wooden structure and Carmen did the wood and came back a 1000 b.c. So you know free 1000 years ago right exactly where we think the finishes when we think the fishes would have been here still in the Phoenicians had ships 3 times the size of Columbus a huge shift and we know that they were already up as far as in England getting 10 so they're pretty much halfway there if you think about where Phoenician being Asian Lebannon are in the southern Mediterranean that range you already all the way up to Cornwall they may have gone as far as Iceland anyway but it's not that much for the continue across North America especially if there are strong economic reasons for doing so there was a famous shipwreck off the southern coast of Turkey called the shipwreck and in that shipwreck there are. A bunch of copper it gets an. The copper in that shipwreck is of a purity that is only found in the Great Lakes region and that's to me one of the most important piece of evidence we have that indicates the Phoenicians really were in the Great Lakes region come alive how would that copper ore which dates back again about 1000 b.c. How that shipwreck and up with copper of that purity. Precisely precisely Let's go back to the phones 1st time caller to hockey in Florida good morning to Hawkeye welcome. And well how are you. Doing a woman who you are thank you sir thank you my friend. I have to question. Who . Are the Incra him and to whom are more wars. But more often with the more that's the easy one the more it's a basically the group that came across the Mediterranean from Northern Africa and took over the Iberian Peninsula. And helped me Richard on the day. 6700 that range right right well Muhammad founded the Muslim faith around 600 so yes probably 78900 brave there were back and forth with you know Portugal Spain that sort of went back and forth for a long time the still a huge Morris influence in the Iberian Peninsula Fessor the southern Iberia even today and Farsi trust that is a name I am familiar with the haka but not in much detail theory math help me with that one. If you want to talk about the. The. Name. Was not known when you. Insult him is right right the Romans adopted a lot of their culture and technological advances I mean the Etruscans really were the ones that I think they had things like indoor plumbing they had central heating they had they were the ones that built the aqueducts. Wow. So really without the without the there would have been no fire. I'm grown. All right my friend thank you. We can work. North Carolina good morning. Good morning I just one of them into a book a rare 25 years ago and at that point it was already 25 years old. I don't recall remain but you can find it the professor of history from Wake Forest University has many Kovi feel why. They fight on Columbia even better in the Soviet study with archaeologists think giant c.f. He was great and he was already on to the connection. Of the Romans with some Jewish artifact that they had done a few of study very very much so it's funny how they do the research I think I'm I'm discovering things and then I find out that what's old is new again that it was it was written about by guys like cycling Kovi 4050 years ago and I'm just rediscovering it and people that sort of forgotten it it almost like a pendulum swings back and forth and we and we find things again but yes he did amazing work. You know police to arrive I met them once genius I do not know why but I don't want to say that for certain but I do not believe. Ok Well good morning thank you thank you for the call Thank you for the call I love the clone. For the Brooklyn robins or something. That's as a bad joke. To Cheryl in gold bar Washington Hello Cheryl blog Good evening and happy Valentine's Day they did for. Happy Valentine's Day. Or Bless my heart I have the best day ever and to the rock around from the rock area Hello to you thank you do I get happy I don't and they also are my only I'm I'm here I'm thinking of marriage but always the big I love you guys so much rather than thank them for price. Growth and being having a grandmother with BUSY a 4th dinner. And. This wonder if I should not expect. That grin extraordinary then for the well if I do my d.n.a. Test I'll be able to track it because the Chiefs last name that. You know and it's so similar to mine it's almost shocking. You said it would be interesting to get a d.n.a. Test. She said you know a lot of British in there but the right side of the family has it on. And that's what I'm going to do my dear and I'm quite excited So anyway I do want to make it fun and are simply you guys but I've got my shovel and some of the. Thank you. Thank you Cheryl. All right I think we have time for one more quick one now west of the Rockies Linda Smith Valley Nevada Oh. Ok so I'm sorry I came in late for 8 hearing you have never heard of the book or read American obesity by Barry Yes of course in fact great. You know I mean the more fat as you can. See and America. You know from the on 4 or 5 and 5500. Shows proper Going from our world over to the 2000 b.c. Copper culture of North Michigan and makes a period of 30 pounds and it's very hard reading because. You know writing and things that are found like you. Cetera et cetera et cetera. Make a list of things. That we did talk about the we did talk about the copper mines in the Bronze Age and how that much of it likely came from Lake Superior. And that book being hard to read well that's that's why we have people like David Brody who turns this kind of information into historical thrillers right David that was really artfully done versus. That's a good segue I like that thank you yes. So. You've tackled the Templars now is that the end of the you did $1010.00 books of the Templar series in America is that the end of the Templar run or are you going to now move on from the Romans. Take a flight diver and I did want to Lantus I did one engine Giants but all of these things even the Americal one ties back a little bit to the temp Lars so know that the series continues and I find that the temple hours and or the Freemasons sort of inherited the temple our traditions every kind of good at our rabbit hole I find those guys alone in one way or the other I joke when I do lectures at the Masonic lodges that they're always at the bottom of the rabbit hole waiting for me saying what took you so on Brody to get here so these agents the mystery Korean ization seem to have their hands into all of this stuff and so I think I didn't get a good chance to talk about it but one of the one of the really fascinating things you know about the Roman connection is a tribe called the u.t. Tribe which. RINGBACK May have connections to the ancient Freemasons and they're also related to the man then we can get to that if we if we do another visit Richard but I find that the temple arson the freemasons they tend to pop up and into all these subjects no matter what rabbit hole you go down and find them. Well just keep out keep writing David at what you're what you're doing and would definitely will have you on again and again and again and always a great pleasure and Romero available at Amazon and wherever good books are still sold I'm guessing yes Richard and thank you so much for having me I really appreciate you're here do a fabulous job story is brood identity of your sofa supreme actually moreover. They said it was easy to save money bundling with progressive for the rest of the Internet. Just come out of a little sticky situations. 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Sloan Bella is a psychic medium trained astrologer a modern day met a physician who also happens to be our wonderful mother she's she began her career on the streets of Toronto Canada working with Missing and Exploited Children Sloane was born in Toronto Canada and was given up at birth where she remained in foster care for the 1st 10 months of life until she was adopted into a well established and business minded family which allowed Sloan temporary stability while exploring the paranormal world it was exploding into her existence since birth by the age of 4 Sloan learned to articulate nightly visits by otherworldly beings and the spirits of those people who had crossed over this is how she began to develop her ability to act as a conduit and to speak the different frequencies that exist around us a straw was introduced to Sloan via a charm necklace from a cousin in England and by the age of 7 Sloan's a lifelong passion for astrology began and continues a Sloane Welcome back I really appreciate you coming on how are you Hi Richard how are you. I'm well thank you. I'm terrific thank you you had you have had an unimaginably difficult year you you lost your son Keith last summer. Tell me about what what happened well. It's really weird as a person because you get impressions about your family obviously and your friends and people around you and I had really odd feeling about one of my children passing but I couldn't tell you which one it just was find a building building up and his. Cation and I was hoping I was wrong but yeah Kiki was picking his I called and Katie he's a grown man but whatever he was 24 and he was picking his bike up from a shop in Chatsworth and his friend was dropped him off and drove his car back Woking he. Rode his bike back home and he was run off the road within a mile of leaving the shop and within 6 minutes was dead apparently I mean he hit the ground there was no suffering and he passed away prior to him passing away I had been getting some people had been I guess threatening me for my mouth or you know writing anonymous emails kind of accosting me at times in public when I would go hiking I would have people that 2 summers prior you know stop me on a trail in the random trail in the middle of nowhere and you know the 1st one asked me not to do any more videos on Nipsey Hussle if you remember when he passed and kind of in a threatening manner and I thought Ok these people are crazy and. So there's. Some energy around peace and death and I've thought about it and asked for clarity which is really hard when it's your child actually super hard and I kind of come to the understanding that the energy around here if it's if there's any kind of negative energy around anyone in anybody's family like a group of people the people or energy is thrown at other people which can cause them to veer off their path which is what I think happened to Keith I believe Keith was on an obviously he was on his way home we know that and energetically there was a force of energy as because after he passed not the day he passed but after he passed I saw his energy leaving this world and I thought I'll call them energy tags . Trying to pull him back into this atmosphere so to speak so something trying to bind him or hold him back but he did cross over I thought that clearly it took about a month after he passed so people or energy on this planet will try to find in hold you here and if somebody is. Speaking or going against the energy in any way whether it be considered good or bad that a judgment call based on each individual people can be pulled down certain path and so it's it's interesting because the work that I do with. Children that are trafficked and I kind of try to bring awareness to that in the different ways that it happened the where Keith has the way some of the witnesses who were witness to the accident or were there right around the time that he passed are involved in that type of field so it's very it's very nefarious actually to have your son passed away around people that make witness statements who have been involved in the trade of children or have been in drugs. So yeah Sloan if I'm understanding if I'm understanding this you're saying that that key to this hit and run was not an accident and it has something to do with it because you've talked quite openly on your You Tube channel and different places about you know organized child child sex rings and the whole horror show. That his death had something to do with that. Well I would say I wouldn't say it was intentional like for example if you look at somebody like to say j.f.k. Who got assassinated I'm not talking about something like that talking about the energy conducting it which. And how do I want to put it I feel that it was a combination of things and he was actually run a. Off the road not like hit with the car but he was forced off the road which of course if you're on a motorcycle is going to probably kill you because you're not in a car obviously and the teeth will where he was forced off the road that came out are people involved in that type of business they have criminal backgrounds connected to that so I find it interesting energetically that he happened to pass away out there almost as if bringing awareness to the circumstances in that environment so I kind of feel although to my detriment our family detriment anybody who knew Keith that his passing actually was shining a spotlight on a separate. Circumstance that's how it feels I mean I was after t. Passed away it was written up that he was taken out it was on crazy days and nights I think I told you that before maybe I'm not sure if I did but crazy day has a website right yes a website where they where they write you know they write they write up things that happen about whoever in society kind of things and it was written that Keith was taken out because of. You know the things that were said you know open about the child trafficking so. It's hard to prove but it's called an energetic intention thing that's what I don't think people understand we're always looking for proof like show me the person that's pushed him off the road which we are getting to but there's also an energy that goes on underneath on this planet that people are very unaware of we are not taught this growing up so when we grow up in churches or our family hands down information most families are not taught about the undercurrent whether it be good or bad on a spiritual level or as you call it the occult level or the metaphysical level the things that are done in this world that a lot of us don't understand because we just think oh it's coincidence Oh it's an accident. Oh that would never happen but it's not that it's an energetic focus in a negative sense and I think that what happened to Keith because I felt him but he crossed over finite I felt that I just felt the pull on his energy to pull back that there's something going on underneath but we're still getting to the bottom of it so I really can't even fade to the end of it because we haven't come to a conclusion about it yet you know right ongoing thing right and yeah. I cannot imagine what it has been like for you and your family and I don't want to ask questions that are uncomfortable so if I ask you something the end you just say please move on. But you were you received a phone call that that he I think there's the phrase that the person on the other end said he's down and you just you know having your car and you raced to the location where he was right so you arrived at the scene a short time afterwards for about 20 minutes after it was that Keith brother Jason that called me and he said. I forget what he said Yes he's down he hit the floor hit the floor that's what statement that I just finished reading client that was about 140 in the afternoon put my head on the pillow because actually tired had a headache and I found it very odd that I picked up nothing but I did get stung by a bunch of washed that morning which you know I had gone down to see if Keith was there but I had been stung like 5 times by a watch which let me know that it wasn't going to be a very good day but I didn't feel anything other than that and you know Jason had called me and said you know he had a car and I had no idea what that means I didn't even know he was on the motorbike that day and he just said someone Chatsworth So I just headed literally out the door wearing sweatpants gone down the freeway and somebody one of his friends called me another one and said You know I kept asking Is he dead I knew he was good because the blood during doubt of mine. And I went completely numb and so the phone call I got was I asked the person is he dead and they didn't answer me and said Here's where you need to go and sent me a map on the phone the Google Maps thing and I called the police I said can you tell me what hospital near there because I was still trying in my mind to figure that he might be going to a hospital and they never called back and they still never have called back. They don't call back and so I drove around the corner and there was Keith the on the ground and I just remember pulling out and I was on the phone with one of my friends with the air pods on and I threw the phone in the car and she just described me screaming she could just hear me screaming I didn't turn the phone off I just ran out the door and I just could see his feet not his socks his shoes were gone the one shoe was on one was missing and I just kept looking at his socks going she never washes those socks that can still see the dirt and that's all I could focus on they would not let me and then Jason pulled up right behind me and went running for his brother but they would not let its near chief until the corner came so we were out there for about 4 hours just staring across the road without being able to do it you can't do anything you know they don't like you you know it becomes property of whoever whatever lies in your environment Yeah so I just remember and I remember trying to feel him I couldn't I couldn't see him and I was completely Naam and then when they did let us go over to see him things he looked like an angel and his face he was covered in his body there was a lot of damage obviously motorcycle stopped writing them people but he when I looked I just. I've never felt anything so odd I just stood there when let me touch him so I had to stand over him and I just kept calling for him to come back but for him to come back here you know you need to come back here and I couldn't send him so I felt like a really wild animal trying to I understood how an animal in the wild feels when someone takes search for their baby animal child that's exactly I felt just like that like where is my child the sense of of not being able to smell him or check his breath or catch him in the corner of my eye was making me not and I just couldn't it's a very odd experience so very very odd and surreal x. Right there real now right. Now you just made Vesta getting on your own you went out and you started knocking on doors there was a reward that was offered today what did they ever find out who was responsible we had just to keep Well interesting Lee and not the things that everybody in the age of social media likes to take built films and videotapes of things and so I started looking actually one of my friends sent me a videotape that she found online on Instagram Instagram page so I started showing up at these people's houses early in the morning you know find their names find their address find the page find the person putting. Whatever note can their mailbox saying can you tell me how you got that videotape what did you notice what did you see obviously you were there so it led me down the path led me down a path let me down the path and I had the help of I have a friend who's a private investigator and shout out to Bobby she's in Texas Blue Moon Investigations and she started you know preserving evidence for me and we found somebody and got a hold of 2 people and they did describe. What happened they did describe it they describe the car and what they thought the person looked like and so we're going that way I won't put that out here exactly yet because we've given that to the police and they they're there right please don't cry at this point yet so they'll take care of it so as not to alert that person but if I didn't have people reaching out to help me I mean I had to witness I had to go the police did not tell me about melody of course your viewers your listeners don't know who that is but she was the one that was 1st to arrive to try to give Keith c.p.r. And no one told me that somebody was there and she was right across the street so I found her the next day and she's been invaluable and everything she told me and everything she saw and everything she's done and her family and her neighbor as well and they were the ones that took care of cheap but no one told you that so that what I what I actually learned and this will sound odd but what I've learned is our our agencies that we deal with is in human society the authorities that we deal with the police department except for us if you don't do your own job you the person who is the mother the parent whoever is missing or murdered or dead or whatever it is if you do not advocate for yourself it will not get done it won't get done it's not going to get done 9 out of 10 times you know I had help from my friend who was a homicide detective Stacy officer Stacy I color and she's in a different division but if it weren't for her guiding me about what I needed to ask and what I needed to get and the actual technical terms for things how how are people supposed to know this so it's been a huge lesson in in self power of a person you have to stand up and you have to get the answers so that's would be the advice from this experience I would say to anybody out there that lost anybody due to any kind of odd circumstance or straight out murder or whatever it is. You actually have to advocate I'm sure you've heard this all over the news when people miss children they have to stand up and do it for themselves that's what I learned because none of this was written in the report I would never have known about the I you know the eyewitness the woman that came out of her door seconds after she heard it and went straight to Keith No one ever told me that I had to take that information should the police and make them put it in the report which is bizarre. That's right you also learned I think that there were there were people I don't know that with a non sort of Tibet were Buddhist monks that came out and and formed a prayer circle around Keith Yes thank you minded me I am I had been in tonight but yes when Keep the past I've seen his series of objects obviously and landed on the ground in front of a Buddhist monastery and the Little Monk lady and I cannot pronounce her name so forgive me for that but she came out Dan and I had gone by after he passed my friend and also very good psychic we'd gone by and the Little Monk lady had come out and she started describing what she saw everything she saw and everything that happened from her observation and yeah they were praying for teeth there were also other witnesses that came forward from people seeing them on Facebook saying you should talk to Sloane you know the fact that it was her son and they also stopped their cars to pray so Keith was very well protected on his way out of this earth because that is something I do know when we leave this earth we are always with side but the atmosphere energetically of leaving the physical body and crossing over there are many different. Weirdo energies that we cross the room so I was very grateful for the Buddhist monks and they were female actually praying around. And canted made chanted for him they put the entire family they you know made sure that we were taking care of in a spiritual way along with 5 standards that actually got out of their cars and told me that they prayed for him while they were waiting for the paramedics to come or whoever was going to show up with that must be of some comfort. To some comfort knowing he wasn't alone yes oh no they were it were. Well that was amazing and because people told me what they saw what they observed and his friend that was driving the car George all for rides but with car at the light that did not see what happened did not realize what happened police saw the bike on the ground and he was also added so I was glad he described the last moments I don't think he realized it at the time but he described the color of leaving the body going through the eyes you know the eyes looking right where he would stand on Sloan Pardon the Interruption Sloan pardon interruption I've got a duck in here we're going to take a time I'll come back and we'll talk some more about Keith we'll talk about some some other things as well we'll open up the phone lines a little later in the show people want to work maybe connect with people in their lives who have passed on maybe Sloan can help facilitate that as well back with more right here on coast to coast am. 2020 taught us that the Internet is even more awesome than we thought groceries movies doctor visits and of course going to the post office with Stamps dot com over 900000 small businesses use stamps dot com to save time and money and so can you Stamps dot com brings the services of the post office and you p.s. 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I will be there so we will be there and I've come to the realisation to meditation since Key Pass that on Earth this is really cheap is is born we are dead here if that kind of makes sense it's the opposite of the way we think so when we pass on from here we are really able to shine as spirit beings the way that we're meant to be this is more of like a molasses seem kind of energy or atmosphere so once you cross out of here you're able to actually be free on a soul level so for that reason that's how I choose to view where my sign is at the moment and we are stuck here kind of in emotional or energetic quicksand and they are free when they cross over that's actually how the way it was described to me when I meditate the opposite we think of the lives here but we don't we do but we don't we live one to cross out of here we really live I didn't understand that before because everybody holds on to here and it's not really about here this is extremely temporary which we've all heard that saying too but that's the way I look at it so I I look at it and again I think I'm protected in a way I do feel keys and I know when he's around he moves here I have a flower from his funeral it's a it's a it was a fake fire was a big yellow Daisy and I put it by the Buddha by my front door and I'll come in every other day and it's moved in different places that you know away from the Buddha away from the mirror away from the hall there's nobody here to move it it just moves so he moves a flower I know that that's that's the symbol that's a weird little thing that keeps happening now with him so I think that protected because he does energetically come around to me although I can see see him like I see you or I see the neighbor can't see on but I think he's here so I think there's a calmness when I begin to get up. There's a calmness that comes over me when his energy comes around me and it's quite an experience to lose a child and not. Know how to describe it and I know people hand that handle it differently but it's quite an experience. And so. No no. You and I have talked since he passed and you said that you know the relationship hasn't ended it's just changed how else has he has he communicated with you besides sort of moving flowers around and things like that you see sort of you feel his energy but yeah the day that he passed went and slept in his bed Ok so I crawled into his bed and I felt his energy move through me and if I could describe it it felt like the static you look at on a t.v. Set that remember back in the day when the snowstorms you do because you're from Tom and they would interrupt the t.v. Service and you'd see kind of the gray that the black and like if. I felt the energy move through my body like that it reminded me that I know he crawled through me I felt that and when I was preparing for the funeral picking out pictures and things like that I was by myself in my studio and I had big boxes of pictures and I would just saw them which I don't publish but I was there and suddenly this it was like 2 big huge hit the bar and to slam down and there was no one here and it was right beside me laughing because I knew that with him saying he said frustrated trying to communicate with me as I am with him are dead people on the other side which are really alive and we are dead but they are more confused. About how to get through that it's confusing for them they get they get frustrated I could feel his frustration about why I couldn't get him seen literally banged his fists and I did hear that there was nobody here I mean I was in where I did my You Tube studio nobody was here so it's impossible that that I'm crazy and somebody snuck in the room and bang the 5th because there was nobody here and he does things like that and more recently and I forget which episode it is I'll have to look at it on my You Tube channel probably like a month ago I was doing a video and people on the live chat was doing a live chat and people on the live chat started telling me that something was behind me on my chair and I looked behind me and I'm like Ok you all are crazy I don't see it but they're looking through the camera behind you know at me and they can see behind me right so they fired sending me pictures from my my throw on my chair on the armchair there and one of my friends put the pictures together and it was the stay in them in the blanket on my chair for the throw It was key states in the picture I'll have to send that to you I don't think I sent that to you while work it was no you did not you're holding out on the slip Yeah I don't know what that is then I think Marina I sent it to Marina she thought it was a few weeks ago I'm wearing a gray turtleneck was the only thing I heard that night it was freezing but Keith showed up in the blanket which is a weird thing to say but when you look at it he has to make his you know people that say. They saw it you know something in the bread or somebody Jesus in the tree or faith in the whatever right you actually did that in the blanket like I used to think those people were crazy like just really not he really did that and I have the picture of it and it's crazy it's like you can see the outline of his faith and when he put the actual keys face next to the blanket hid them together. There you can see it but it's an outline in the blanket and the viewers could see it I couldn't see it from where I was sitting because it was behind me I turned around I still couldn't see it maybe because of the lighting or whatever but they could see it and I probably got like 400 e-mails saying look look look at the face some people thought it was. Jim Morrison and they're like Jim Morrison's in your chair I'm like Ok knock it off you guys. When I thought that I went oh they're not kidding like they're really not kidding right it was yeah maybe how how did they do you think that it takes time for once people cross over and you talk about the frustration of them not being able to communicate with us how do they learn to do that is are someone there to show them. Oh you know I use this analogy I think I just use this analogy yes to answer your question some people have the way that I look at it some people who pass over say for example you have a relative that in their eighty's and they've been had for a while and they've built up a whole lifetime of power and strength and they're just frustrated and then they got those people seem to be able to come through very quickly or are very very strongly immediately because they're so happy to be free of being 80 or 90 and in a bad body or in it in their physical illness. Other times like the movie exults which I know you're familiar with will pass church plays the best remember when he dies and he's he steps out of his body looks it is why and he doesn't understand he chases the murder the guy gets away he finds out he's dead it shocks him and then you find the guy in the train station the kooky guy with the weird hair and he gets that guy yes oh yes how to move a penny remember that and get them to should think that the guys yes you know how to do it that's what happens they have to learn how to consolidate their energy in a spiritual way because they've been here they've been here and we're in a physical body so if I want to touch you I just reach. Don't touch you they can't really do it like that because they're not contained within that within the host body and there's also depending the Keith accident obviously was traumatic and shocking so there's an element of him that hath to acclimate on the other side if somebody gets shot they have to acclimate if somebody overdoses they have to acclimate and sometimes they are shielded from what's going on until they are emotionally comfortable with the fact that just like here it's like here we have the same things going on here but for different reasons and over there they have to get their energy back so they go to places where I wouldn't say places they go to other energies they can help them understand because I understand he didn't want to leave his life that that's one of the things I think that was not what he wanted to have happen and nobody that leaves in a shocking or sudden way is wanting that to happen if you have know someone who's in a car accident or you know they get stabbed or whatever the issue is these people are not planning to leave they're coming home for dinner or they're getting ready to go out with their girlfriends boyfriends whatever so there's an element of shock that they've left this lifetime and so they need to be helped energetically on the other side but they actually they come to life when they cross over there it's a whole different thing and. He says is from the energy I pick up around him I don't feel I'm very clear on the fact that he doesn't want to come back here that I'm clear on I get that when I'm invited he does not want to be gone about a year. He's been gone about 8 months does that mean then the more he learns over there the I mean do you expect then to hear to perhaps hear him or c.m. More often in the coming months as he learns to communicate. I I hope so I don't even know how to gauge that because it's show different I've had family members that have come here to. Me and stuck to me for 2 years I'd say it stuck I couldn't get rid of them on the other side and in life they wouldn't talk to me of. Ironic reversal and with Keith I I honestly believe he will come through and I think there's an element of me that that goes to him rather then. Him come to me at this point and also keep in mind I'm probably still obviously traumatized myself or Naam and if I have any kind of emotional frequency that I'm emitting from my body that is attachment it's hard for him to get through to me so the more that I want that that builds up resistance for him to come through I'm sure he will come through I've no doubt I feel him I feel him I just don't feel him the way I felt other people but I do feel him. Yeah so when the when people record let's say for example Evie piece on audio recording they they captured a spirits for days on tape yes sometimes. It sounds like the spirit is using some electrical device like maybe a fan or a white noise on a t.v. They're using that as the medium to actually express themselves you know what I mean all ads they're not using their own voice to read they can they can come through the electronics because I understand when you're on this site you would name here Richard you and I right here we're in a very tense kind of energy so when you when you look at it like this if I were describe it in the animal kingdom when we die are we become like she does fast and free and we can run Ok they say the fastest animal we can run we're free when we're on the earth side we're like big elephants here we're we're very stuck in dense energy so it's very hard for them to come back down here once they've let go of the same that keeps them grounded here or found down here which is they have the mess that we have here because this layer of energy this time mention is a very heavy kind of energy so for them to come back here they take a lot of energy they have to slow down so I mean you have children as well. When your boys were little little tiny ones and you took them out walking you remember how slow you had to walk when they were 3 right 3 and 4 whatever had to walk you couldn't get right walk to the store quickly you had to really take your time you know when help them walking it was a whole ordeal it's the same for them on the other side they literally have to slow down for us we are like children they can bounce in and out of different things and they also are guided at certain times my understanding from she's passing is a lot of what's going on around what happened to him there's certain things that will come to light that he doesn't even know at this point or didn't when I picked up on the information that he doesn't know that will come to light and then things do come to light he will gain more power and understanding from what happened to him because I understand they're in the process of learning just like we are they don't just cross over and become you know when the angels all in God's light you know completely void of any kind of emotion they are the same on the other side as they are here they just express it differently but the essence of the energy is the same so they have to learn and grow on the other side that we are here and we are not really separate It's the illusion of separateness I got that really strong and they live once they cross out of here so we're kind of stuck here that's why there's so many things I mean there's there's moments of happiness here you know could be years could be months minutes whatever but on the other of when they cross out they move to another level of elevated dimension that isn't as dense and fake and just basically stupid as a swan right just falling this planet now we're heading into a break here slow and we're going to we're going to open up the phone lines on the other side of the break I think. How do we do this now when people call in and if they want to if they want to maybe receive a message from someone that's passed on can we do that war how does try try yeah talk to them and do what I do. Or if they have a question about what's happening in their lives sort of psychically you can talk to them about that as well all right we'll do it Ok we will we will do that on the other side will open up the telephone lines and. Much to discuss with Sloan Bella Stay with us here are the flirtations nothing but a hard to take. Nothing but a heartache taking us into the break coast to coast am. I never chose to become a gambling addict but what I did choose was to get help from a professional counselor admitting I was powerless to solve my problem that opened the. 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