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Hard radio goes one on one with Bondo from You Tube relating how he deals with anxiety before live shows I genuinely feel emotions on the day of a show I wake up I feel that I'm going to have what it takes and you can be always thing he can be all kinds of questions coming to the monkey guessing about them the closer you get to the show and you try to get the feel if you behave and if it goes well you know you take the monkey on stage and we see you see both of people listening to i Heart Radio for more of your favorite artists. See 3 and Jack Callahan Fox News keynoting the penultimate night of the g.o.p. Convention the number 2 man all the tickets of vice president Mike Pence accepting the Republican vice presidential nomination at Fort McHenry in Baltimore and laying out the choice he says America will face in 2 months who do you trust to rebuild this economy. Occur politician who presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. Or a proven leader who created the greatest economy in the world tends to counter the domestic and foreign policy successes of President Trump in his 1st 3 and a half years in office and he said America's economy is recovering from the financial crisis caused by the coronavirus pandemic foxes John Decker earlier White House adviser Kellyanne Conway press secretary Kaley McInerney have a daughter in law Laura also. Of the opportunities for women which the president has fostered President Trump will deliver his acceptance speech Thursday night from the South Lawn of the White House Biden campaign reacting to the 3rd night of the r. And c. Saying in a statement that was barely a mention of the virus killing thousands of Americans each week each week gale force winds already battering parts of Louisiana and Texas as hurricane Laura approaches the coastline a Category 4 storm with winds of 150 miles an hour and the potential storm surge 2 stories told me about $500000.00 plus people who have been back he waited but initials that I've talked to fear that is not nearly enough and it is Laura has strengthened over the past 36 hours a lot of people just didn't have the time to get out or some people didn't realize how strong it was so they decided to fight this hurricane out there are now a number of helicopter crews and then swift water rescue teams that are on standby . Projected landfall in about an hour America is listening to Fox News. The funks news podcasts network jello in listen to Tyrus until I really believe Tries to figure out what they're going to do for the rest of the season in light of the protests the postseason game postponements in response to the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Wisconsin on Sunday Brad Turner of the l a Times reporting the Bron James inquire letter talked at a Wednesday players only meeting in the early and Obama bowl and demonstrably opposed playing out the rest of the season the 2 wanted instead to advocate for change e.s.p.n. Notes Clippers head coach Doc Rivers dropped by the meeting and he was pushing for a voting and police reform the players will host a follow up meeting on Thursday at 11 am Eastern running in conjunction with a board of governors meeting taking place simultaneously This all started when the Bucs boycotted their game on Wednesday Now here is your official love you p.h.p. Weather Center forecast high quality which in t.v. 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M m m Antonio Texas Brian what can you tell us what's the latest Georgia writes this hurricane lore is a monster of a storm turned into a major hurricane right now it is slamming Louisiana and Texas coast stream winds started hitting just a few hours ago in the northern eye wall of the storm is right now in the process of making landfall south of Lake Charles Louisiana southeast of Port Arthur Texas near the camera. Louisiana area which is just east of the Texas Louisiana border now Laura as you mentioned a strong category 4 hurricane packing winds of 150 miles per hour for reference only 9 hurricanes since $1851.00 have struck the lower $48.00 states with the maximum sustained winds of $150.00 some of these cities these coastal towns are going to be submerged big time aren't they Brian well especially Lake Charles Louisiana that is one area that we are very concerned about tonight because the storm surge could be between 10 and 20 feet we're told that much of Lake Charles could be under 9 feet of water and I got by this time tomorrow have people evacuated Yes 500000 people in Texas were told to evacuate now how many did is still unclear but I can tell you that hotel rooms and they were using hotel rooms in sort of large evacuation centers because of cope with that many hotel rooms thousands of hotel rooms in Austin center Tonio Dallas even Baton Rouge and as far north as Little Rock we're being used by the Red Cross as evacuation sites All right Brian thank you we'll keep in touch with this week that's a tragic hurricane Laura just doing her thing we'll probably give you updates during the program tonight on that situation a teenager has been arrested and charged with homicide in connection with the gun fire that killed 2 people wounded a 3rd person during protests over that police shooting of an African-American man in Wisconsin city of Konoha this teenager 17 years old had an automatic rifle and just went ballistic into the protesters chase Mark David Chapman the man who killed John Lennon has been denied parole for the 11th time the 65 year old was denied after being interviewed by a parole board a few months ago according to corrections officials Chapman is currently at a correctional facility in New York where he's serving a 20. Years to life sentence Chapman shot and killed line in the former Beatle star outside his Manhattan apartment on December 8th 198040 years ago hours earlier Lennon had autographed an album for the then 25 year old Chapman the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now says that asymptomatic people no longer need to get tested for the corona virus which is a change that the federal agency recently made to its on line guidelines regarding covert 19 asymptomatic people simply are people who have the coded 19 but they show no signs of having it the coronavirus may in fact anyone young or old but older men are up to twice as likely to become severely sick and die as women of the same age why the 1st study to look at a Munich response by sexes turned up a clue men produce a weaker immune response to the virus than women according to the researchers and the data is clear in Arizona had it's turned the corner in regards to the corona virus the number of cases and deaths has dropped nearly to levels seen back in April according to state reported data while July was a turbulent time on both accounts cases and deaths Arizona has since seen a dramatic drop off that's good news Howard Bloom's been assigned to look into the cold in 1000 fours this week our what do you have force Well the big news is what you just reported that the c.d.c. Is trained says coronavirus testing guidance that it says that people who have no outward symptoms for testing and previous c.d.c. Guidelines recommended testing for every one of us who comes in close contact with an infected person for more than 15 minutes but this c.d.c. Change is motorists it's not a result of science as a result of pressure from the White House the White House a doctor and kicked against testing it is refuse to use the Defense Production Act to mass produce. Simple at home test that refusal has killed 178000 Americans yes the White House a version to testing has killed 178000 Americans and here's how back in January and February when the coronavirus 1st showed up on the horizon we should have followed the example of South Korea we should have jumped in with mass testing and we should have isolated every person infected with the coronavirus and we followed that South Korean strategy we'd have had fewer than 2000 deaths by today fewer than 2000 instead of today's 180000 in fact as of today we lead the world in covered deaths we've had as many Cova deaths as angle in France Italy and Spain combined we've had as many as the next 2 most infected countries in the world Mexico and Brazil combined folks like Fox T.V.'s Laura Ingram have told us to go on about our businesses virus is no worse than the flu that covert is killing at the rate of $360000.00 people per year Cove it is killing more people in one year than the common flu kills in 7 cope it is killing more people in one year than traffic accidents kill in 10 years and testing is the single most effective way to beat coping testing is a single most effective way to keep the economy open but the White House seans testing on June 24th the White House ended funding for some coronavirus testing sites and April 15th the number of tests performed pretty began to drop the new Republican coronavirus stimulus bill about to be announced in the next few days has money for covert treatments and for covert vaccines but apparently no money for testing yes no money for testing again a simple at home testing can allow us to keep the economy open for good it could have allowed us to keep our economy open from the very beginning but the White House is in a strange state of denial at the Republican convention last night she faxed them advisor to the. President Larry Kudlow gave the sense of the covert pandemic is over but it's far from over on the very day Kudlow treaty Cove it is a thing of the past 1133 people died and the experts tell us that this death toll will go far higher in the fall when we are attacked by code and the flu simultaneously on the hopeful side 3 drug companies say that they will have a vaccine by act over that's Pfizer Astra Zeneca and bio and tech another company may have a vaccine by December that's Moderna in total $316.00 treatments are being studied worldwide and 2 of the 3 vaccines but testing is the real key Abbott Labs has just announced f.d.a. Approval of $5.00 test that will deliver results in 15 minutes that's a step in the right direction and as Dr Aaron Glod an infectious disease expert for months on a hospital in New York says sub optimal testing capabilities for covert 19 have been the single most important issue we have faced in dealing with covert 19 with Universe testing we could and lockdowns for ever but until we get that universal testing Don't kid yourself covert 19 is not the thing of the past that Larry Kudlow tries to say it is covert 19 is a threat to your very life and mine we need herd immunity as well Howard thank you Howard Bloom the coronavirus continues to get the best of the New York City restaurant industry as well as the rush of the country months after the pandemic while New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has made it clear that there are no plans to reopen indoor dining anytime soon restaurant owners are on the brink of permanent closure they want answers let's check in a registered investment advisor Michele Bachmann is working to lose a lot of restaurants pretty soon we are we don't even know how many I don't even think we have an accurate count of how many have been lost I'm. Looking at a report now eater New York says lots of restaurants are quietly closing the gates just go down there's no press release no announcements. Or moving locations but not many most of them are just quietly closing they're just not open I don't think that's a right way to go or go George. I think you can practice social distancing at restaurants I've gone to a number of restaurants I certainly won't go into one that's packed all look at it if it's packed but. We've moved to Utah here now get some nice places where you can sit outside late in the evening I away hide away and that's what I do and you know so to just close them off and just say you know you can't do it George I don't I don't know there's a lot of economic damage we're causing by overreacting and under reacting I agree with our Blome we need more testing so what's up with that we've made a mess of things George that's the bottom line we're going to check in with you next week mash Thank you Michel giving us economic news China has launched 2 medium range missiles in the South China Sea In a scathing warning to watch as tensions between the United States and China soar Sugaree in World War 3 fears in the region the move came on Wednesday morning one day after China said that a u.s. U. 2 spy plane entered a no fly zone without permission a source close to the Chinese military is understood to have told local media the missile launch was intended to send a warning to the United States tensions really growing there Ilan Musk has announced that his brain chip company Noura link will give a live demonstration of its tack on Friday and since its founding in 2016 Euro link has been working on technology that would theoretically be able to implant. Artificial intelligence unable to microchips into human brains the ball to monitor in stimulate brain activity the aim is one day to use the technology to help treat neurological conditions and diseases he says something next Carol Lieberman joins us she is a psychiatric residency in training and she will be telling us about this neural link and other issues next on coast to coast am. You're on the edge all day and you sleep at night and if that's your new normal you'd be wise to try c.b.d. 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I'm a registered nurse and a personal trainer if I eat healthy then I don't. Know the. And they find a mentor an interim fighter by kind of by a tradition Carol the Border Collie picnic that's the most beautiful black dirt my rat terrier that sir now where he never had it before your little cocker spaniel his anarchy is tremendous but I have I will make your die happy. On wag their tails it will make you smile and what. You will be I get my. Back. And welcome back to coast to coast George dory with you Carol Lieberman back with us Dr Carole Lieberman board certified psychiatry is the member of the clinical faculty at u.c.l.a. He's neuro psychiatric institute she has had her master's degree in public health from the University of California in Los Angeles as well not her training at the n.y.u. Use Bellevue and she has written several books including bad girls bad boys and lions and tigers and terrorists cure Welcome back it's been about 9 years something like that my god it's almost the end of time what have you been doing in 9 years well. Actually. I've been writing more books and particularly as you and I have been. Thinking of a state of New York where I'm born and bred New Yorker and even though I live in California now my heart is still with us and when I love it happened it changed my life in the sense that I devoted a lot of what I do to helping people cope with that I don't leave the families of 7 but he's giving to the threat they are the only threat of terrorism and. Terrorists there at the. Show they see Bridget That's my latest book on terrorism is for children helping teaching children about terrorism lots to talk with you about tonight Carol but I want to get a quick reaction from a psychiatry has with the pressure people are under right now because a covert 19 being locked up in the house you heard by story about how you know the Russian Front tours are going nuts because they're losing business they're saying a 3rd of the restaurants are going to close how much more can people take from all of this then is the number one question people are really reacting in a way that I call Corona crazy. You know to you not to make light of it but I mean people in in a serious way people are actually suffering from that of the precious p.t.s.d. And some are suicidal they've been abusing alcohol and drugs families are having squabbles that have child abuse at the best requirements I mean just everything and it all pretty much started not so much from coronavirus itself but the lockdowns and that is when because their lives have been studies before coronavirus about what happens to people if they are. Kept in isolation or locked down and they found . Independently that it can cause all kinds of physical and psychological problems after the little problems like heart attacks and strokes and we can do just that panic attacks there are lots of coming down with panic attacks to get shot Yes absolutely so here to learn and of course on top of that we've had the the riots and. That has added a lot of people's lives out of course the controversy with the elections so we are dealing with. A tremendous amount and you know compared to $911.00 even to. A lot of things are similar and are triggering problems that we had after 911 but after 911 at least we got solace from the community front of social support and from being able to go to church and temple and so on Arabic we can't do that if we're really lacking social support I mean Zoom only goes so far and so it's really harder and there are so people more things hit excessive points it's really a lot harder while an achievement difficult with people who sadly you know can't look at people because they're wearing masks all you see are the highs these days yes the mask really are a factor you don't know what their expression is it just causes all coordinates even a box of people who don't for a long time. There really and score social distancing also. They're really you know it really is just a whole plethora of problems and there is help there are things do you know one of the the basic thing that you can do really is to concentrate on building your insist on something really simple instead of. You know kicking for all kinds of more complicated things if everyone concentrated on building their immune system being getting enough sleep getting about the nutritious food getting taking doing things to reduce stress putting laughter in your day take walks exercise vitamins supplements all these things that we don't know their basic yet we don't really do for the most part but that that would help a tremendous amount they all Hitcher would Carol it sure would but I trust that we're going to get through this Arizona is beginning to see at least a downturn which is a good thing that happens throughout the rest of the country yes it will I mean this isn't going to be around forever and if we practice all these the. Do you like some hair it's cold you know if we practice all those things will get through it even better but. It's just try to you know of course now that we're heading into the elections divisiveness has been a problem now for years and it's just getting worse just we have to all come down you know people are losing friendships they're getting divorced and ranches because the coronavirus of the lock downs but because of all this anger and divisiveness happening statues are. All going out of control I understand you're going to get our neural link implanted in your brain. That maybe. That. I mean why do we need these things we don't we don't know. If it's I think this there is a link brain chip is more a reflection of a lot of us can life and what the watch to fix in his brain then it is something that will really help us I think you know he is picturing this or you know putting it in the context of something that could and will help people with brain diseases and who have paraplegic or else. Parkinson's. And those things if this works or there are lots of problems with it but if it were to work you know theoretical I mean he's well intentioned. Yes yes. He is but when it goes from. Parkinson's to fixing foods and fixing addiction and things like that that is where he is way off and also you know he's been telling it as being able to play music in your brain but we don't need to bring the ship able to play the victim taking your pick. I mean this is really. It is going to find a festive he's acknowledged that the reason why he's doing a lot like he said the reason is because he's afraid that in 5 years all artificial intelligence well have taken us. And in fact he has a. Theory that describes how he describes. His company and they said if you can't even enjoy them all he's going to do this live demonstration on Friday Carol so we shall see what happens there that could be an interesting little feat that will be back in a moment on coast to coast am Carol Lieberman with us we're going to talk about some of the things about you a follows and strange things that are happening to people extraterrestrial visitations as well how do you cope with a family member or friend who's obsessed with the occult maybe that's a good thing but we'll be back in a moment right here on coast to coast am and next hour we'll take phone calls with our coast insiders the new version of the coast to coast am is now available for i Hi I'm going to say with p.g. 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You're listening to Coast to coast am with George Noory Well we're getting really close to sort of temper 26 ever in Washington live stage show looking forward to it hope everything works out Tommy what do we have in that show well we're very very close so Mark that calendar for Saturday September 26th Everett Washington is the place at the beautiful historic every theater as you just said George so for live interviews on stage we're talking ghosts big foot missing people prophecy scary a lot of fun ghost hunter Ross Allison will join us Bigfoot researcher Ron Morehead author of missing for $11.00 David politeness and the night rogue scholar John Hope you'll do a few readings we're going to set up some microphones we're just going to have a ton of fun here live band Georgia sing a few songs it's going to be a pack night so I had to get tickets very very easy just head over to coast to coast am dot com the Web site all the info so right there they're really going fast and why do we always say all of us live this life that for live guests I'm not going to interview any dead ones. 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And welcome back to coast to coast Ga Nori with you along with Dr Carole Lieberman as we are talking about the brain and some other areas we'll get into some people thinking along mosque is a genius other people think he's insane What do you think Carol. I think he's. An insane genius you know he has a very interesting background and there's no wonder I mean he's created an amazing number of things and he's very imaginative and creative and so only have a lot of Credit Suisse particularly has to give him a lot of credit because he did not have a very easy childhood you know for the 1st 17 years when he was growing up in South Africa he had a lot of problems his family was dysfunctional today his parents got divorced when he was 8. He went to live with his father and something happened there where he now regrets it and he doesn't talk to his father and. So obviously something bad happened and in addition to his family he was bullied as a child he was he told a story of how bullies got his best friend to get him to come out and then they you know they kept beating him up he said I don't know why me they picked me and they've been beating me up at one time they threw me down the stairs and he had to go to the hospital so you know in other words it was just morning bullying incident this was an ongoing and he is an example to his credit of someone who came from a difficult childhood and who managed to use that as a driving force to get him to do things you know super great things like I'll show everybody and I and people usually go one way or the other and when they have a really difficult childhood sometimes some people are destroyed by it and other people use that to. Be you will for them to do great things but I do think that he is bipolar and really and yes I mean you from his I think part of that the manic heart is what helps him to think of and create these new ideas does not give my mood swings huge mood swings yes yes and he once in 2017 he wrote a tweet that said his that his reality is great highs terrible lows and unrelenting stress and he was answered in an interview if he was bipolar. And he said yeah and then he said maybe not medically though then no bad feelings correlate to bad events so maybe real problems getting carried away in what I sign up for so you know he came back pedaled on that but if you look at his. Personal life and even in his professional life I mean he does have these very volatile and he does seem to have highs and lows and and also you know and with mania comes sometimes with bipolar sometimes comes paranoia and I think what I was talking about before about his fear of artificial intelligence taking over the world and that's why we have to have this brain chip to. To be at least equal to. A I so I think all of that can be somewhat explained and and the highs and lows you know this idea of using the brain chip not just to help people with paraplegic and things like that but mood to help people have get out of depression and so on. And I think is part of his you know consciously or unconsciously trying to cure himself you know you may be right all about that when you know we talk a lot about the paranormal on this program Carol as you know what are some of the indications that somebody she was telling the truth with a paranormal experience or making it up. Yes there is there are some reasons why one might want to make it up you know my what I my day job as I call it is as a forensic psychiatrist so I'm always having to decide whether people are making things up Mullingar ings you know it's not necessarily in regard to paranormal experiences but in general and whatever they're suing for and so. So some of the ways that you tell whether someone's telling the truth about something or not is 1st of all they mill eager if there's a secondary gain in other words they make it up or they exaggerate if there's some kind of secondary gain in doing so and so talking about the paranormal exaggerating it telling stories you know what their experiences were and so on if they they could be doing it some people do it for attention and then another way to show is to see whether their story changes if the story changes too much with each retelling like what I do for example when I see the person there's a party in a lawsuit and I see them for a whole day and I when I'm questioning things I go back later in the day to ask them about things that they had talked about earlier in the day and if they were lying they usually can't remember what they told our old day of jogging they can't remember what they told me in the morning so that's one way and then the opposite if someone tells a story that is exactly the same word for word that's another way that you can tell that they're lying and then their demeanor demeanor like they're their body language their emotions if they're telling the story for example of how scary a paranormal experience was but they're sitting there looking bored and then you know that they probably told this story a 1000000 times now let me ask you about this with people who have a u.f.o. Experiences remember culture Encounters of the 3rd kind with Richard Dreyfus Yes he had a close encounter and he went kind of a walk down afterwards he was obsessed with building something that he didn't know what he was doing but it was the landing spot where they were going to connect with the humans and had led him to that. When you've looked at some of this stuff with people who have had these paranormal encounters whether their goal was to angels you were for was do they get stressed after the fact. It's the pings 1st of all on whether they perceived it as a good experience or a terrifying experience or very upsetting experience you know and a lot of that is conditioned by or determined by what their expectations are mean we've seen so many different movies. With the paranormal things and some of them are very scary and so. If if someone is is expecting that to happen but you know I'll tell you I can tell you about my my paranormal experience or early of the hero that you are the expert. On the paranormal So I think you'd like lives. My. Biggest experience you know most impactful experience with the paranormal was at the millennium when I went to Peru. And a. Ranch house in the Peruvian Amazon where for the millennium it was supposed to be a 2 week vacation so to speak. With 4 Shelmon and we had 5 c.n.n. Says during the. Ceremonies during these these 2 weeks and during which we took my Alaska and. Needless to say it was it's very it was much more powerful than I expected actually very interesting seeing the shamans cook up the whole call if they were bold to take it Carol. Well I I I don't know yes the women millennium I was up for anything. But you know the picture of seeing these 4 shamans in the day in the darkness you know they that night standing in around we were all standing around the cauldron where they were cooking the sketch that was like a scene from a movie. But anyhow we had these ceremonies and yes indeed the shamans brought in spirit. And 1st you during the week you would talk to them about what kinds of things you were thinking about in your life or hoping to achieve or you know what things you want to answers for and. And then and then the spirits came in and the 1st during one of the so there were 5 different times that you would be taking the I was in the ceremonies and one time. Before this the man who was leading this whole experience. Took us to different villages little of where there were Native Peruvian natives and he would invite them to come to these eyewash the ceremonies so that when the ceremonies. They had the system was there with total blackness. And so the system was he was somehow supposed to raise your hand and how the guide was supposed to see or raise hands in the total darkness that anyhow and then he would take you to the restroom if you had to go during it was the whole the whole night the ceremony blasted the whole night right so he would take you to the restroom and so when I got up to walk through this room I saw people sitting on the floor and I had to walk through them to get to the door to get to the alley happy to over them and everything else yes and so I would say to them Excuse me Oh you weren't supposed to talk so I would whisper excuse me excuse me and the next day the man who was the leader of this experience asked us there were 3 of us who with their visiting you know having as guests. And he asked us what it was like and I said oh well you know it was really interesting that the people the Peruvian natives actually came that was very nice he said there was nobody there your whole. Were no movie in the news but they were so real I mean obviously real I mean I thought I was touching them when I was walking home when people are having these experiences Carol like you did I mean in reality . If their whole Lucian 18 are making them up but there are many that I think are absolutely real what do you think yes I do I don't think it was just the hallucinations from the joint because that was very different the experience of from the I was that selves you know it was for me it's a little different for everybody but for me it was like very brightly colored cartoons at 1st and you could only see them or I could only see them when my eyes were closed and then. Over my eyes were open and then I could see them with my eyes were closed too so I couldn't I couldn't get away from them I mean they were horrible but they were very fast moving very brightly colored very intense cartoons which was very different from the experience of walking through space Peruvian native and then I had another experience a little later on the one of the ceremonies where I saw people and this has lasted the whole thing as experience has lasted but I thought people and Michelle McGee were talking about this. People who were dead I mean not not people sitting on the floor and I mean like real people but I mean spirit that I could see not the cartoons were real spirits that I could see existed and the summons were talking about how these were people or beings. Who were had died and who were waiting for their turn to come back to Earth and it was it was an amazing sensation of life of seeing these little people or beings I mean not not real again as in the same sense as the people sitting on the floor but but where it was very believable that in fact this is a realm that we do go to. And there's no question about that there's no question about that I've been abused so many people including doctors who have had near death experiences in that experience you know is just unbelievable to them to you know old doing what they do living in the afterlife and things like that it's pretty convincing Carol yes yes and it's comforting now to you know you asked that question like what how do how do people react when they have different kinds of paranormal experiences you know some people get frightened by that I found it rather comforting because. My father died when I was 20 and that was further proof for reassurance that I mean I felt his presence anyway so since he died but I mean this seeing it in the way that it was sort of in a carousel of people drifting spirits drifting in this in this. Plane it was just really reassuring So I think a lot depends on what you bring to it. Whether And of course it depends somewhat on how mentally stable you are to begin with because that's another thing in determining whether people are actually psychotic and hearing hallucinations or hearing voices or seeing things. And yes of course like the cartoons that I described were loose Nations of a sort from the drugs but I mean you do have to decide or as a psychologist you would want to. Make a differential diagnosis on whether someone is seeing things or hearing things because they're having an underlying psychosis or whether there is some other explanation like the drug or like oh we'll just depend on the experience even without being on a drug. Carol I want to ask you a little bit about Robin Williams who was one of my faves and he committed suicide several years ago yeah apparently had Lewy body dementia What is that ended that drive him to the point that he had to kill himself. Well it's a kind of dementia I actually knew the person who discover who it was named after. It or just the kind of dementia things that are come out in the brain that make you demented but you know I mean presumably I mean I did I know that he was diagnosed with that but I actually think that he can't just blame it on. The major sure that would have made if he knew that he had dementia. Then that would have been very devastating for him because his brain was you know that was Hell yes and to the idea that he would not be as quick and have all of these thoughts come to him and so on that would have been devastating but you have to look for psychological things like I think it had to do more with his wife his relationship with his wife that was going down the tubes and her being whether. Or not paying enough attention to him or not not being in engaged enough with him and his seeing that relationship really falling apart I think that that was that was the final nail in the coffin sun state why would people get so depressed Carol to kill themselves I mean isn't that bad this is the pain the anguish that bad. Well it's because at the time people don't see an out and it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem and then that's what we say is that Ok I just but to the person who's feeling this way it feels like a very permanent problem they don't see a way out and they the pain of whatever it is you know in this case. Is relationship with his wife but whatever the pain is that a person is having if they don't see any way around it and they think of rather than live the rest of my life with this I can't do that and then they just make most. It's mostly an impulsive decision to to end it but it's very sad because needless to say if people were getting therapy but then they would be able to talk about these then we'll find out the underlying reasons and what they can do about it to fix it lapse absolutely I had a friend of mine who was a sports reporter in Detroit for at the television station I was working at and he got he got let go and he was never able to quite get the job that he liked and he was married and he was depressed and he got a job as a kid in a cable station and he was let go out of that he was unemployed called me up one day sounded really strange and he said I need to borrow $350.00 and I said sure so I wired it to him he was in a different state and apparently he paid his life insurance policy with it and he killed him so we found a minute's hotel room you he got that depressed over the fact that he didn't have his job. It's crazy. You know. Well that must've made the Mr Hard for you you know yeah oh yeah Harry I we I always kick myself. You know should somebody write if I didn't give them a 300 if you know is what he had killed himself I mean I'm sure he would only would have found a way he would have prominent from somebody else he would have gone and Carol we're going to get a break we're going to come back and I want to get your thoughts on people who think they deal with the angels and what you think about that and we'll take some phone calls from coast to coast them sign up for Coast zone our newsletter get it today and coast to coast am dot com. Thank. You. For. All of. 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Test in August for rescues the 1st year is just a complete retraining lots of blood discipline and degree upkeep I'm a registered nurse and a personal trainer and if I eat healthy then my dog should eat healthy i n o v i t back and I need the vitamins and minerals so I don't fight provides kind of by attrition Carol the Border Collie to next test the most beautiful Jack Black coach Stuart my rat terrier that's for now he never had it before doodle he's a poodle cocker spaniels his energy is tremendous the dynamite will make your dog happy by day shift shop up and down lag their tails it will make you smile it will mean how happy your dog will be I get my time as I d i n o b I back down. And welcome back to coast to coast Carol Lieberman with us we're going to take your calls this hour as well Carol what got you into this end of the field of course your you know psychiatry honest but what did pushed you into this area. Well when I was 8 years old I read a book about Elizabeth Blackwell who was the 1st American female physician she was actually originally from the u.k. And I thought to myself yes that's what I want to be I want to be a doctor and then when I was a teenager I read Freud's interpretation of dreams and that I really totally just really connected to that and I knew that I wanted to be a psychiatrist after that so when I was going to medical school I knew that it was to become a psychologist Well it's good for you now angels of course get a lot of people who have had some kind of angelic intervention they can't be making these things all up. No. I think that I think that it really is true in a number of cases. I mean I think you know angels we all want to believe we have a guardian angel so it is very tempting to to believe the signs that we see and I do I do think that there are angels you know like where was I I was I was before I was started to talk about how you know you have to make the differential diagnosis as psychiatry is between someone who has a psychotic disorder and someone who is actually experiencing these things in real life but and a lot of it has to do with whether they can function in their life in other words if someone tells a story about an experience with an angel and they the rest of their life is functioning fine and dandy then that's wonderful you know usually it's a positive experience and so that just adds to their life if they get obsessed with angels or with anything really paranormal or really anything but as they become obsessed with this experience and it starts taking over their life their you know their social life their relationships their work and then. You know then that is not healthy and you have to wonder whether maybe they're not psychotic but you have to wonder what this experience really was Carol I want to talk more with you but we have a regular listener to the program who is in the path of Hurricane Laura and as we get his question I want to go to him now just to find out if he's Ok Cornelius in Alexandria Louisiana you're right not half aren't you Cornelius Well yes sir but it seems like Charles Man I gotta tell you so they've knocked off the air and just could be in my. The weather stepped all as they should as they should be but I chose getting hit hard so I don't know if you got any listeners down there near Lake Charles Beaumont and Cameron is that thing is hitting him hard and is coming this way so we're about a 150 to 200 miles from Lake Charles how fast is a traveling couple I only get there in one less than 2 hours I would guess probably so so by the time the show's over with in your Makes you know to our session we'll probably be good and they say 60 to 100 mile good. Not going to leave you're going to stay there and in the house well you know we have a house I mean we don't have a mobile home I think so we're just going to get Dad I was telling Tommy I don't bob know any of the Anasazi use and prodded me and you know in case the power goes out and everything we can't cook anything like that so. Everything so we're ready for we're trained up and prepared to call us tomorrow please let us know how you are Ok Oh yes I am George Don't worry I'm going to drop notes All right Daryn but you're on with Carol let's take your call while you're here yes Carol Lieberman God bless you I'm really enjoying what you're saying about all this. Carol I was a former m.p. And stuff like that military police and I trained at the Kim school down there and Anniston Alabama and. Some of the stuff that I'm doing this is psychological warfare the people are putting on us with this Cobe it 19 with the riots and stuff like that and. Most police interaction with blacks and why I have to be African-American but. It seems like the media is doing this to us to make us getting there into a race war or some type of civil action and stuff like that and you know either hating blacks or hating the police. And. What does that do to your psyche. Being under all this stress and quicker and I think my answer love your going to actually stay safe I wish you well yes well yes it is it is we are being With into a frenzy Absolutely and it's this mentality in people follow it yes and the whole idea I mean of course yes there is a summary says among the police there are a few bad apples or some number of bad apples and they can be dealt with there are things that can be done but the funding the police is absolutely wrong. You know I mean I don't know where when I 1st heard of it I thought that was my one of my example of the corona crazy people. Think it's idiotic to define the police department over a few bad ones that have done something under very tense situations and I mean there's the bottom line is of course the George Floyd episode in the one here with Blake could OSHA Wisconsin appears to me to be wrong based on what I see I mean very very wrong here but the other part of it is why aren't these folks who are arrested simply can you know listen to the police officer stop running around just you know go in the back of the car and you know don't don't you know try to get away. See a stone because that's the thing that's the trigger for the police when they think that you are not respecting them or listening to them and then they think that you're going to be planning on doing something else I mean I don't know whether that I mean it's not an excuse for the shootings that occurred they were horrible and wrong and probably homicidal for as far as I'm concerned but yeah but you know I look if a cop stops me I'm not going to give him. Any trouble I'm going to be I'm going to just say you know what do you need sir and play it by the book and you know what he's not going to pull out his gun and aim it at me and things like that if you're if you're complying with him. Well you know what the solution for this is just like the police have to be checked every one to 2 years in terms of how they are with their weapons whether they are able to handle it well you know. They should be checked every one to 2 years but their mental stability Oh sure absolutely because that would fix a lot because when they see day after day things that are hard flying some more are seeing more than others that creates can create p.t.s.d. In the police and then and there on the job with it yes and some of the symptoms of that are hyper vigilance in other words you're looking around you all the time the expecting something dangerous to happen and an exaggerated startle response and so both of those things would cause a cop or a person to react and if they think they're in danger obviously that would make them you know think they have to defend themselves so again I'm not giving them excuses in those examples that you brought up of course those were wrong but but defunding the police is not the answer you know not only because I mean so 3rd is at the beginning I couldn't believe that this was actually a real thing that people were really talking about and in fact had done it was ablaze and. I mean if I were a criminal I'd move to those cities that have been defunded Yes yes. You know but not only that it's people aren't thinking about terrorism you know we're talking about that. Because not only do you need to be able to have the police come to you when you call 91. 1 and of course there are experiences now more and more where people are doing that in places where they had been talking about or have done some degree of defunding the police and they're not getting an ambulance or the police or you know whatever emergency help they need but in addition to that what happens when there are terror attacks which there will be after the Colona virus after we go out more and in the public and there are crowds and so on. Then you know we're going to call we're going to expect the police to come and rescue us and they're not going to be there then either so that is absurd idea and just making it just to go back to your guest in your caller's question I think we are being with and there are also of course groups within you know who have hijacked the peaceful protests to create these riots and the so on but yes the media is not helping by showing all of these things and showing them sometimes in skewed ways I mean it was very interesting the chads or chopped in Seattle. There you know the pictures that we would see during the day were not the same as the pictures that were going on tonight and there were a few reporters who went in at night and actually captured the real violence and so on the going on and the police weren't able to come in because because they were they were pretty keeping them out. Ed in Charlotte North Carolina Hey Eddie go ahead and. Thanks your insurance Carol. George for a problem Williams he's got a movie coming out September 1 it's called Robin's wish. And one is a documentary on him yeah it's his way of for people go through see. A lot of Mel Tillis situations not not in those terms which to it is the expert with them and functioning but. The surfer in a can be someone like Louis a sizzix it's Richie usually very similar to Parkinson's except at the dementia and movement things happen at the same time much closer to the same time but I am I was I think he's famous pretty smart I think possibly some of these people rather than go through that can of a death and put their family through it made me do a suicide more to keep the family from heaven go through the whole thing I want to see if you're thoughts on you know if that's a possibility of creating a depression you know in the person. Well there are some people to have illnesses that are terminal or that you know would make them become a big burden on their family and they may choose to commit suicide but that's usually different I mean that's done. Usually the family has including or or they write a suicide note or. This this was this is not I don't think that that was the case with Robyn Williams. That he was concerned he I mean he could have been he didn't really see symptoms Well 1st of all weren't that serious that that particular time yet so I don't think he was at the point of worrying that he was going to be a burden. Now something happened that day that night whenever he did this that just really just got him yes when you know they went to he and his wife went to an art gallery or an art opening something like that there are pictures and you can see in the pictures 1st of all they were various trains from each other and 2nd of all he looked very depressed you could tell on his face couldn't you yeah and then there were other cases even in the week or so previous where he was that a restaurant with his wife and similarly they you know they went out looking like happy campers little kid tells its parents got an imaginary friend course they don't think it's imaginary What do we do as parents encourage it maybe it's real. So we get them a monopoly set. I think they play board games anymore. Yes which is unfortunate during a lot of pieces since that was the perfect. Yes you know a lot of times sometimes parents get overly concerned when kids have an imaginary friend and sometimes they don't take it seriously enough it all depends on. What they're saying is happening with their imaginary friend you know whether it's with the you can tell that it's just a comfort kind of like a transitional object like they be carrying a teddy bear around or whether it goes beyond that whether it lasts a little too long and whether the child really seems preoccupied with this imaginary friend like not just once in a while but all the time he's talking to his imaginary friend or setting a play setting for him. So it kind of depends upon the degree but I think that you know it's the worst part is if the parent doesn't pay enough attention because it could be a sign of some early manic depressive illness bipolar or schizophrenia or some other problem and so it is always better to take you know if it lasts more than if this it's taking too much of the child's attention it's better to bring them to a psychiatrist to have an evaluation and deeded you need Cathy's with us on a Limpia Washington welcome to the program Hi Kathy go ahead hi but the name of the lady on tonight is what's her name again Carole Lieberman Dr Ok Dr Lieberman I have been reading this book about dreams alone this Book of Dreams stand this is psychologist who wrote this and I was curious as to. You know when you sleep your brain you know closest to your cognitive coffin and it opens other things up and then when you wake up your cognitive comes back a dream state goes away. And I was just wondering about Psychotics are they are they like awakening dreaminess To same time or or what is that. Well you know you could think of that metaphorically. That in the stands sometimes when they're you know when they're hearing voices or seeing things you could you could liken it to a dream but it's not really the same thing for I said that the dreams are the royal road to the unconscious meaning that things that you don't become aware of during the day that you are feeling or thinking come out in your dreams and you know what's interesting is that with coded and with not necessarily you don't have to be coded positive but with all of this you know all of us being surrounded by news of coded and so on and getting some degree of p.t.s.d. If we are glued to the television you know looking at the numbers of how many more people died we're having more nightmares these days and nightmares that are that are symbolic of things that we are afraid of so for example if you have a nightmare where you're running away from something like a wild animal that could represent here fears that you aren't in touch with during the day fears of getting closer and interesting take Carol Lieberman what the server web site is linked up at coast to coast am dot com Your book still available Carol. Yes. Lions and tigers in Paris is very much available and they are there too as well my other 3 are well interesting take we're going to come back and take some final calls with you had a moment Carol and of course talk more about what happens with people under extreme stress and how do they change so those of you on hold we will do our best to get to you when we come back in a moment on coast to coast am here's a couple of them for you know it's subscribe to our free You Tube channel if you would simply go to youtube in the search bar put coast to coast am official and just hit the normal little buttons there and your an insufferable of course to sign up and have some fun with that like us on Facebook follow us on Twitter or send it out little messages just about every day about the show and they're just very handy for you and I would help hope that they're very high helpful too as well so we'll be back in a moment with Carole Lieberman and your final calls right here on coast to coast am . 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If you have a gut feeling that maybe this is a little more than a hobby is taking you know they're spending too much time on this and not spending time doing things that are more productive or healthy. You know staying in their room for example and just being absorbed with things related to the occult and not not getting a job or not you know not trying to not having any ambition or things like that. It can be a sign you know it can be a sign of depression it can be a sign of being very unhappy with one's life and looking to the occult for some answers you know that they. That they're not finding in their life they know that something is wrong but they and they don't know how to fix it and they're looking to the occult for these answers and that's you know it's one thing to enjoy the occult as a hobby it's another thing to to be so absorbed with and obsessed with it that it just ruins your life. So they should take them to get help you know take them to a professional to a psychiatrist and have them evaluated and it's always better if you have a question about somebody and these days you know we were talking earlier about how . The virus in the lockdown in the riots and all that are taking such a toll that the it's better to be safe than sorry it's better to go to a professional for an evaluation and to see whether there is something with this is just sort of normal stress from what's going on or whether there's something that needs to be treated absolutely Carol we're getting lots of e-mails and one of them caught our eye and not I want Tom to kind of go through it quickly if you would toss this is from a woman named Cheryl I survived my suicide attempt in 2006. I would like to share my story when I attempted suicide I no longer felt I had control of my own mind I couldn't feel anything I didn't believe anyone cared about me my internal voice was a constant monologue about how worthless I was and what a horrible person I was and Sheryl is on the line with us in Lexington Kentucky and I want to get her on Cheryl I'm glad you're still with us my dear Hi there saying Hi Gary Hi I'm sorry I forgot your guest name already Dr Lieberman Dr Carole Lieberman Dr Lieberman Hello hi hi there and I care if you want to go ahead here is calling into George Norry if you had been successful in 2006 well yeah that's true I would have misread. But I just I had been I couldn't. I guess the end of the last hour and I had heard you talking about. Suicide and I hear a lot of people talking about it and I feel like a lot of people who haven't experienced what you're going through kind of miss what's really happening for the individual who are experiencing it and you're missing that it makes it harder to help the people who need help that makes them what was it sure all that pulled you out of that depression. Honestly I. I didn't succeed in the suicide but it is not because. I make a long story short my dog. And I got help because of that and but I did not. Come out of the depression after that I actually went to yours. Continued problems and continued. Depression continuing society and the same exact things that led up to the suicide attempt in the 1st place continued to happen did you still have those suicide old thoughts Yes Yes frequently go ahead I have a question so you said you got help but it's the help didn't help you to get rid of the Depression No no not at all actually I they an ambulance was called I was taken to a hospital where I was put into for by lack of a better term the psych ward and I stayed there for a few days and they tried to help me there they did a lot that was the best help I got but one of the problems was the doctor that was there. Who was. To talk to us and he well he didn't listen he had you know I told him like what I told you where I had that in or my monologue which all of us have we all have an internal voice right that I'm not talking like crazy loser nations I'm talking like you're yourself talk right that's right. I tried to tell him that and he decided I was having hallucinations and putting out a very strong like a trophic which and then sent me home which made everything worse affairs and Chennai while Jesus the and then did you so as they did you get any outpatient treatment I did I went to another therapist that was recommended to me and she. Basically said you know I was telling her you know you want to know what was wrong I was telling her I was having a lot of anxiety a lot of the negative you know the depression the whole thing of the suicidal thoughts and she focused in on the anxiety and she said What are you afraid of and I said I don't I don't know I just have the. I don't understand she goes Well if you don't. Understand what the anxiety are from them that they're rational and then she basically dismissed it oh well well you know I'm glad you called because. You are unfortunately exemplifying. A lot of what is going on in with mental health treatment these days. Which is not good 1st of all yes people are getting discharged from the hospital way too soon. Psychiatry is too used to do therapy along with medication with medication was needed are now becoming have become many of them most of them have the not me but most of them have become totally shares and they give a patient a prescription you know instead of listening to their whole story instead of going back into their childhood you or I can tell you Jane just like anybody else at the root of your depression and your anxiety are in your childhood and are being triggered by things in your current life and so that is happening a lot today where people are being sent out of hospitals way too soon they're just being given a prescription and an end if you know if they if you're not able to monitor whether what the prescription is doing and so on whether it's the right medicine or whether it's the right dose all of these things have to be very carefully monitored so what you really need to do is to find to try to find a psychologist who does therapy as well as that occasion and if you can't find that because it is a little difficult. But if you can find that find a psychologist to at least will listen to you and not just throw prescriptions that you and find a therapist a psychologist who will go not just to say that you are rational and it is ridiculous and to try who tries to get to the root of all of this or not you know if you're not irrational because you I mean of course you don't. Most people don't know where all of these things come from they may have some ideas perhaps and maybe the ideas are right maybe they're wrong we need somebody who is going to have patience and you need to be in treatment at least one session a week of therapy and then. You know if again if the all seeing a psychiatry has a therapy and gives you medication that's that would be at least once a week and similarly I mean if you if you're having these suicidal thoughts and unfortunately what the world is going through today is causing a lot of people to feel suicidal who didn't even feel that way before the Certainly you're going to be more vulnerable to feeling that way again so you really need to get into the right hands and and it's not necessarily easy but if you keep contacting people you can find caring therapists caring psychiatry I think caring psychologists and people who are willing to take this voyage with you you know you can keep this is 2006 I mean that's 14 years ago you can't you don't want to you can't keep living with all of these things bothering you you have to get to the root of it. How were how were you going to do this deed sure. You know I should say I'm I'm actually I'm on the other side of that because after looking for a lot of therapists and going through a lot of them and review has been 14 years I finally finally finally found one that really don't ring on and we actually uncovered a repressed memory of childhood abuse and p.t.s.d. From that repressed memory and until now things are are so much I mean I'm fine and you know you know fine fine but yeah I know things are so much so much better now and I'm in a really good place and the but that's one of the things that I wanted to make sure that your listeners understand is just because you're in with a therapist and a counsellor and that doesn't mean that they're right necessarily and I don't want to say that it is and you don't listen to them because you don't like what they're saying but if they're not. You know validating what you're feeling and understanding you that you don't you're not obligated to stick with them you can find someone else yes and not as not everybody's good at their job they just are and that happens and that's you know just a little bit of taking care of yourself but then the other thing I want your listeners to understand is the depth of what. Happens when somebody is you know going to commit suicide they don't just come home and say Oh crap this happened today I guess I'm just going to die you know it doesn't it builds up you know like I said For me I I wasn't even feeling like I was in control anymore I felt like it was something that was happening to me not something I was doing to myself spinning out of control sure how were you going to how were you going to kill yourself. It was I took a bunch of pills jail and some are and that's where the dog came in and saved the day he did he hung this that dog. He yeah he had only been a couple of hours and you know I'd let him out and stuff to make sure Eagle Prady and I let him know I gave him a whole bunch of food for a few days that I did not want you know I was going to be and anyway and he just kept whining and crying until I woke up and he was standing out in the hallway and I was in the bedroom and like what do you want what you want and he just kept crying and so I kind of get up and I'm like stumbling around and he coming to me he walks a few steps down the hall and then stops and looks at me again and he kept doing that until he. Got me down the hall down the stairs and I let him out and then he has instead of going potty he just walked away and I think I would have a beer and then that's when it all kind of hit me and I started playing and all fact cast in the end I was falling down and I started yelling like out of control I didn't know what was going on then my neighbor heard me and called 911 super Well thanks for sharing the e-mail with us pretty dramatic and the dog might have been an angel Carol that's our age that's really you never know Next up let's go to Mike in Redwood City California west of the Rockies Go ahead Michael Hi George Hi Carol hi there where we've had some problems out here because we have the crazy politics and then we have the virus and then the fires but I want to ask your guest the my neighbor he committed suicide he was a pretty simple guy but he had poor health and he was just looking forward to the spring training in baseball and it affected him so drastically that all the negative information on the television that he killed them and I wonder what you thought about that and also when I retired my employer provided retirement counseling to get prepare you for leaving but millions of people in the United States have been thrown out of work with no notice no counseling no anything and it's just terrible what the Government's done I thought I wanted out your guess what she thought about that Go ahead Carol we've got a minute and a half left Ok yes that's a very good point that you're sort of made to retire made to the without a job without being able to prepare for it. Yet I mean obviously you know the ones the ones thing that I suggest is that people in a sense of the is the mother of invention and I know that's easier said than done such even with the regular retirement it's not good for anybody to not have a purpose in life. Really each day that is that is how you continue to live by having a purpose it could be something simple like helping your neighbors or something more complex and then vision that you have that takes years to achieve but you have to have a purpose in order to keep the life force within you and to propel you to keep living and particularly in a healthy way Absolutely Carol give out your website spell it out for folks if you would show our well my basic website is Dr Carol dot com which is the r c a r o l dot com and then terrorists there at this come interesting Carol keep in touch let's not let 9 years go by this time yes I would love that lots going on and people I really think need your advice and guidance I think that's so important a panel thank you Carol always a pleasure having you on the program and you're the books are fantastic as well up next we're going to talk about the testing of the new year Ryan Institute and the research center where they do psychic healing energy behind psychokinesis poltergeist activity you name it we'll have it with a couple gas tank coast to coast am joined the coast to coast am Facebook page with thousands of members it's great for show updates in connecting with other fans go to facebook dot com slash coast to coast am and click the like button. 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Southwest Louisiana ever Ok my friend thank you Brian get some sleep eventually you've been working around the clock for i Heart Radio thank you so much we're going to come back in a moment to talk about Paris' psychology testing at the incredible story Whately you hear this are going to have 2 guests this hour are will have one guest this half another next half and then will both join us for phone calls next hour on Coast to Coast we've been talking about that incredibly powerful book called blitz that reveals some inside information about President Donald Trump blitz by David Horowitz Rudy Giuliani has endorsed a book so many others have as well or what says a blog but it's he reveals in this book a secret meeting were over a 100 billionaires pledge to try to stop the president will see what happens in November it's all in blitz Mike Huckabee urges everyone to read blitz It's a New York Times Amazon Wall Street Journal USA Today bestseller blitz bookstores everywhere you can also check out the free offer and save $28.00 just go online to blitz 411 dot com or call 1800 Newsmax That's 1800 Newsmax remember to watch David Horwitz on Newsmax t.v. 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Missing her body and I hope so why take the dog to that part of standard run of the mill cat tree no result I hear And welcome back to coast to coast George Norry with you let me tell you about our 1st guest executive director of the Rhine Research Center John Kreutz has 20 plus years of professional technology experience and at least 10 years more as a professional researcher in Paris psychology his research includes explorations in the sun Leonard of the body including psychic healing the energy behind psychokinesis poltergeist activity and other unconscious affects on electronic devices and measurements of bio photons from energy healers as well later on in the program we'll be joined by Ed Edwards who is one of the strongest tested at the Rhine Bio Energy Lab and Research Center but let's get John in John walk into the program good to have you with us hey thanks for having me it's good to talk it's I all of this because of the late Joseph Banks Rhein back at Duke University isn't that oh yeah that's what it all started you know j.b. Ryan started back at the universe in 1935 as a do parrot psychology lab and he actually coined the term. Extrasensory perception r.e.s.p. He started off as a botanist a neat right he and his wife the wives were actually both botanist and they had heard. Arthur Conan Doyle you know the man who wrote the Sherlock Holmes not sure it they heard him speaking at a place in Chicago about some work he was doing with the Society for Psychical Research that was over in the u.k. And j.b. Was in the audience and heard it and was so excited about it that he was a young Ph d. Student went home talked to his wife and said I think I found what I'd like to study the rest of my life that's fantastic I might my late and knew him hi Janice she was a psychiatry us who devoted her entire practice John into studying telekinesis and to lot but the end she was in that in a big big way before she died that's wonderful you know j.b. Has contacted and been in touch he was in touch with so many people through life because the parasite called you up was just so popular it was the only place in the world that was doing studies and the academic environment what did he need to do to twist the arm of Duke University to even shut that program up and well that's a you know that's interesting because he didn't actually twist or harm after he had decided that he wanted to work in this field he started contacting other people who were also doing some preliminary research and he spoke and that man named William McDougal who was up at Harvard got to know him very well and at some point McDougal called j.b. And said hey I'm going to this brand new university out in Darwin North Carolina and I'm going to be head of the Psychology Department why don't you come with us and you can study mediumship when you're down at Duke University so he was invited . To go to Duke University and study and within a very short period of time he showed that he was very very capable of doing strick scientists. It's research there are and he was and all these areas to you know telekinesis as you mentioned mediumship e.s.p. Research and he did it all Denny Well he he defines the field that he did find it in you know many people when they think about Paris psychology that they think about all a lot of different things like cryptozoology related to Bigfoot Loch Ness monster they think about U.F.O.'s and aliens we don't actually study that in the field of para psychology interesting topics were very interesting but the field apparent psychology is limited to really 5 specific things one of them being telepathy or minds of mind communication another clairvoyance getting information about objects or events from a defense people call that remote viewing oftentimes now. We call mission getting information through time usually from the future. Psychokinesis p.k. People used to call telekinesis and then also survival studies and this has to do with anything related to spirits reincarnation and mediumship things of this nature j.b. To find the field in this way and so he could he was able to do studies in a number of different areas they developed the d.s.p. Test cards we've seen the yeah I sure have absolutely remarkable people called the inner cards and he developed as a Duke University and I've used them for testing for about 30 years at Duke University when he died 40 years ago John and one would have thought that the g.b. Ryan institue would have gone with him it did not it continues Oh absolutely not yes in 1965 after you'd been at Duke for 30 years he actually moved off campus and started his own foundation it was independent of Duke University and it continues today you know you know doing research in this field is it's rare that you find someone some areas that are. Really doing scientific research publishing in peer reviewed journals and taking it seriously of the science and we've been doing that continuing to do that to follow the legacy of j v Ron What kind of research are you doing there now. Oh my goodness we have a lot of different things going on but you know when you were reading my bio and thought he looked up a different different things I was just like wow we're really busy with. Absolutely . You know where we are still doing some research on e.s.p.n. Or you know exercise or connections between people telepathy and clairvoyance but where my main focus is right now and 2 of the main studies I'm working on one of them is related to energy healing people who talk about healing techniques and healing methods and what is the energy that they talk about when they're talking about energy healing and the other study that I'm focused on greatly is psychokinesis and trying to understand more about what is the nature of psychokinesis and can we learn more about how it works you know many people say well is this stuff real does it really happen in the end I mean my answer is you know I can't say is it real it happens exactly it happens all the time and so I'm trying to figure out can we determine what it is and how we can explain it better to other people what was John Kreutz from the you know Ryan research center in the Rhine Institute of course she's executive director. What would you say about these things though because they do happen there's no question about that in even studying this for years and the Institute's been studying this for years with some pretty remarkable cases I mean Ed the Edwards is going to join us in a moment and he's one of your best tested subjects what have you concluded John about what this is. The 1st thing that we do and we're doing research is we have to establish that the phenomenon is actually there and with that when we're talking about e.s.p. In Paris psychology a lot of people have trouble believing that it actually happens so once we've established that we actually have a phenomenon the study then we start trying to say Ok can we determine is there an energy behind it does it require at the people to do it intentionally could it happen unintentionally can we learn more about the what the phenomena is and so this is where a lot of my studies are going on right now one of the studies that have been out of work on just recently was trying to see if when people are working on computer systems to their emotions. I have an effect on the actual lecture Tronics of the computer so when what I said that is I set up a computer system that would automatically detect when there were errors in the computer system and I designed experiments to try to get people to be anxious about what I told is that when they became more anxious I noticed more errors in the complete lack Tronics of the computer system to me this is a very relevant especially with all of us carrying around these little computers at our pocket all day long and you know sometimes if you're working on a computer and are working and with electronics you might notice that they start to seem to go out of whack a might think I'm making mistakes but you know what I found actually was that it's us economy could be coming directly from us yes and it's sometimes taking a little break go for a walk get my cup of coffee and come back to it will resolve the situation of the many things that you do at the run Research Center what one area would you say stands out the most if you could. Well again the 2 areas that I'm starting with psychokinesis and the other one with the appealing research the healing research is related to the bio energy lab that we have at the right Ok And this is where we've done research with Edwards quite a bit. The Bio Energy Lab You know we people talk to do healing they often talk about energy blockages and energies moving through the body in different ways people who do martial arts they talk about she and she be moving through the body and utilizing she in the martial arts and you talk about meditators who often talk about Ku Leni energies through the body but if you speak to a physicist or a traditional scientist you're going to you're going to hear them saying energy kinetic energy and potential energy you're not talking about either of those so I don't know what you're talking about when you're saying energy but what we do in our bio energy is we're looking at life. We're looking at all trial in light measurements from anybody from individuals what I've found is that there is something called Bio photons which are produced by any organic matter people plants animals even just individual cells produce ultraviolet light anything that's living this isn't Paris psychology this is biology and it's being studied in the highest levels of biology at mit and then another put other place to rob world but what we're doing at the Rhine is we're bringing in people who say they're energy healers like at Edwards and we're asking let's get a baseline reading from you and figure out how many how much energy how much light we can see coming from you and then we say start your healing now many people do this type of healing but mostly they don't need to be in the same room with someone they can do from a distance and so we ask Ed do your healing from a distance with someone and let's see if we measure any changes. I do this with many people with 90 percent of the people I get no changes from the baseline nothing but with 10 percent of the people I get very significant share year it's probably huge in that 10 percent isn't it oh yeah it's extremely huge I mean it will go everywhere from in a baseline I'll read it going about 12 to 20 photons a 2nd. $12.00 to $20.00 photons it's a really dark room George. My flight in there at all. When someone starts doing their healing with certain people I'll see that jump up to 80 photons a 2nd or even into the hundreds or thousands and I've had 2 people who went over a 1000000 folks how do you explain that how do we explain it. Well you know by a photons or something that biologists are still trying to understand what it is and how it works we're looking at the light as potentially a carrier for information that might assist in healing So for example just like all of our phones our Internet everything works on fiber optics. That's light that travels through long wires and modulating the light using different wavelengths well in frequencies you can change the you can put information into the light it's possible the bio photons are a way of producing communication between the healer and the person they're treating And so this is what we're looking at we also see it with martial artists. And we also found it and people who do strong meditation and other people who have side abilities have you gotten to the point John where you can explain how this happens . No in fact biologists haven't figured out I don't know I don't know. And an astronomer 70 been able to tell me about the big bang and what that is. Well in the you know when you're looking at biology you would think well you should be able to find the cells that it's originating in and where it's coming from but it hasn't been able to it's only since the 1970 s. That this is been an observer phenomena so it's a very new science and you know typically Paris psychology is on the cutting edge of science and things that we've studied you know 40 years ago 50 years ago are just starting to make their way into mainstream a bit more tell us about and Edwards and before we bring him in at the half year and then Both are you going to join us next hour for phone calls but tell us how did you find him in tell us a little bit about him. I came to get to the Rhine and started working here about 10 years ago as a researcher a little more than 10 years ago and when I got here there was a list of Bio Energy Lab was up stairs and one of the researchers who was working with that lab had passed away he had but he had contact that had previously and had come to the Rhine. The room was closed I got I found out what was going on in the room and opened it back up and we brought add in for an experiment Ok One of the 1st experiments what we brought in I saw very strong effects very strong light production whenever he was in the room people always say well what does it mean the white light is electromagnetic energy so it corresponds to the feeling of energy that many of these healers are talking about I mean did the room illuminated when he walked in well that piece of equipment we're using called a photo op supplier to the photo multiplier tube will measure a single photon of light every half 2nd it's. Very sensitive so the room doesn't get so bright that you get just like a flash of lightning but it gets strong enough when you're when you're producing hundreds of thousands of photons it's get strong enough so that force it registers on the machine but it is possible you might see a small go at the same time these are a light bulb on the machine or something like that. We don't have any lights in that room at all because a machine so sensitive even though even I mean is a light bulb on the machine no there's no light bulb on the nothing Ok No it runs into our computer system where we monitor the number of photons that have entered the machine what would Aluminite the screen of the machine or what would happen oh you mean how would why would there be any light and yeah and we're as well kind of emanate from if you would see a small glow in the room we assume because there is additional light in the room that it's coming from the person who is in the world so when Ed is in the room and doing this and we start seeing if we were to be very high photon ratings people have reported seeing some light within the room when they were there with a so it's not coming from the machine it just seems to be in the room but it's very very low level light how old is that how old is that yeah. Oh you'll have to ask Dad Ok we'll do that I mean has he been at this a long time oh yes he's a working with and since he was a child. I think he learned some techniques from his grandmother and just started playing with it out of but I'm sure a whole give you some details on that but and so weapon work with that for about 10 years now in the lab and from the early times that I started working with him and started seeing the effects I started to ask him what he was doing and ask him how he was doing it and we've refined his methods over the years and stead of trying to make big flocks of the light now he's able to control it a great deal more and he actually does teach it to other people to be able to do similar things and he works with other people as well to combine their effects whatever he's doing has his work so you can train people to do this it seems that add has the ability to to help people to experience it themselves I have had other people in the lab who've had similar types of affects whatever and had had spoken to him about things and thought about how to do it I have other people to live to do the same sort of thing that has never spoken to as well so he's not the only one on the planet who does it but he does produce some pretty amazing effects in our lab John I'm going to give you the option you could you want to stay on hold and listen to add or did you want to just hang up and have us call you back for the phone calls call it off say here with you Ok All right we're going to keep you on hold and we're going to get and then we're Jan who went through this program at the Ryan Research Center and he'll tell us all about the incredible things he has done their website Rhein dot org linked up at coast to coast am dot com Up next Edwards who has healed people and done some amazing things next on coast to coast am the free Coast zone e-mail newsletter is sent out 6 days a week and is a great way to keep up on all things coast with detailed program recaps the fascinating today in strangeness listing up come. 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And welcome back to coast to coast George Norry with who now we're going to be Joan joined by Ed Edwards let me tell you a little bit about Ed for nearly 10 years Ed has been Testino at the Rhine bio energy lab and has had some of the most consistent and strongest affects ever recorded in the laboratory including psychokinetic effects on electronics and quantum processes as well healing issues to add Welcome to the program I'm looking forward to this thank you George good to be here tell us a little bit more about you where you were born in your family background because I don't I think this could be genetic. Yes I come from a little town called Clayton Georgia in northeast corner brought up by North Carolina South Carolina and my grandmother did this form of hand-sewn heel and she read a lot of scripture in my little town that my grandparents owned in the words studio up photography studio they started in not cane 29 as so Grandma know when she wasn't having grandpa and there she was working on the local people on different little problems that knew about her abilities and so I grew up in that studio and I would be in there working at times and stuff and I'd be playing with the energy and it was just so natural I thought this was something everybody had and so so I was just a very misty vs kid when I grew up and playin with stuff and I could do stuff my other friends could feel pain in their bodies and stuff that were around me and so I just grew up to laugh like it doing it always asking questions my figures thing was science and biology and stuff in school and so I wanted answers for what I was doing and you know I never could find any answers and so I just kept coming up and laughing coming up and playing with the energy and I was just doing all kinds of missed Civitas things add and you know and. Those mysterious things calms my brain to wire up differently than the other key and we're playing with the energy now in preschool and go back in preschool I had other friends that was playing with this energy and we were doing things and stuff about time we got in the 1st and 2nd grade they stopped won't Let's play with it now I hope that's the downfall I got 4 pins for playing with both you know and so they quit playing with my grandpa we reinforced it where me said no and called me and her play patty cake and I could feel the magnetics eat the tangling sensations and stuff and from little bitty kid oh no but she camped in a lab and me until none of the church to her G.'s or anything could take it away from me and so as a kimono I've been glad Actually I was always asking questions what is this nobody could tell me nothing not even my physics teachers or anybody this was new to them and so I did never find any up until back in 1904 I was watchin 2020 Dan Rather had this guy by the name of Will you see living good and he had to invented this equipment called the charge density Polk's recorder that he was using to study crop circles and things like at will probably just talked about living good and so. We had stories about him Sure yes well of me and Lefty hung out together from 994 to 2006 where those 40 died and he said he'd make extensive Lee in his lab there ingress Lake Michigan along with the crop circles animals from this and that and he used the same equipment to measure these energies and so he learned a whole bunch of things about me and wrote a peer reviewed paper. Evidence for charge density poultices associated with Bob electric fields in living organisms and so that's for kind of them a story in the research and stuff and. Then along around $97.00 we got hooked up with a guy by the name of Charlie Palazzo or that had a group called Alfred extremely low frequency research and development and we put up with him because Charlie had brought a litter in the society of scientific exploration about picking up these anomalous signals that he couldn't explain he had sent letters out to the Department of Navy in different of the research groups looking for him and I stumbled on his litter one day and me and Dr Levin good were already doing experiments where I would send this energy long range to his equipment and he could measure and record it and his lab from hundreds of miles away so then Charlie was picking it up not send him a letter and I set up bank I know where that energy is coming from but without children and power anything I told him to watch is the Quitman 3 days later which was on a Saturday at 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I said I'll do something and you see if it shows up on your equipment and so that Saturday at 3 o'clock I needed Mustang at 330 Charlie was just calling the just stumblin at the mouth that is amazing now you also had an alien encounter when you're a little boy at 6 years old and you David had a a dinosaur that Ok like I said I'm from the little Tam that they fail the liver and say I'm the bear so I went to school with Billy redon that plays the dueling banjos and when we were in preschool he did he lived a little different than the rest of the kids and then we were out. With my parents and we were eating at this little restaurant and it had a car lopsided out in the country and I got done eating and I went out to play and I seen this our new glow over there just kind of poll saying like a campfire would do and it was just rad about science it so I went up there and in here with the 4 strange looking kids you know I didn't think too much about it you know for me and they're like before I was already growing up with and so they lived you know. So just a little different and I got up to my neck and I could hear and feel things in my head and in the way I do with my hands now they were doing to me and I could feel those same magnetics that my grandma was doing to me when I was even younger than that we just sat there and played with this magnetic energy and I just had this knowing and I just they weren't of no sound of voices or anything it was just just this sensation and so ever Santana kind of been playing with it like they did with me and learned how to do all kinds of things with it how old were you add when they found you for the Ryan Institute 5. Let's see that was in 2008. 33. I'm 62 now Ok so it's about 12 years ago so you're about 50 years old yes correct what are some of the things with what you do does it surprise you or shock you to. Not really used to it yeah I'm used to it I do it all the time I live by this is maybe do you do healing work too. I don't heal no it didn't treat her diagnose anything I generate enough energy I cause the healing systems in your body to start functioning and then you do the human and they it happens real fast when you turn those systems on do you have to be spiritual or religious to do what you do no no. I was raised up in that but I went into science big. And I'm searching for answers I'm not a surgeon for miracles or this and that I want facts I won't stuff that one doctor can tell another doctor so that we can continue our research I've got some huge projects going on with another doctor. At Uva in those areas have you gotten any of the answers you're looking for and about what's going on with you. I'm learning where the energy come from how I'm generating it how we want to turn the energy only counts is all levels of consciousness in my head all at the same time Sammul Taney asleep and I know now those sensations that I generate in my body point Attorney down and other people feel I'm getting answers for that and so I'm able to take that only into the medical world and do a lot of things with it. Pretty dramatic and I'm sure the folks at the Rhine institue will bring in John at the next hour as we take phone calls with you and him but I am sure you're one of the highest tested people ever at the Rhine Institute. Yes and now I've got a partner Leahy entropic and she's the feminine side of this energy and so we come together now in doing joint research at the run Research Center the Montreaux and to today and Uva dops lab so we're doing all types of studies at 3 different major places to build up the full knowledge base of this interview and of course tomorrow Institute also well known for astral projection from the late Robert Monreal. With this information what do you think's happening where do you think you got it we've all got it yo just got it made out of you. Or not or we were never really encouraged to use it no it was it was deliberately taken away from me from what I've learned you know I just like to say that I had a grandma that kept it alive in me so she kept to go and Mammy everybody else nobody had any knowledge of it because back around 1469 the Roman Catholic Church want to take these abilities away from everybody and so the only way to do it was to stuff it in the children so it never start developing an interesting take you end you try to teach children this now don't you yes that's my favorite thing and I work with a lot of autistic kids and stuff I'm bringing them are out of the box real fast I was going to say have you come across a student that was as good as you were at that age well other kids were doing stuff at the young age but they quit playin with it because they were towed it was the devil and they would burn in he'll go to hell I mean that was a you know it from my upbringing of it all know all over the planet you know it had to come along in children everywhere but through society and conditioning is been taken away what a doctor say Ed who look at what you do or study you. Well that's with this new study up there with Ross which we can't come on your show until we finish this study Ok so we're starting a study now I can make neuropathy in people's feet and you know where they don't know I can generate so much energy that I can cause that to come back to normal in about 5 minutes and a lot of people and then I'm working with stroke patients where they've got paralyzed lamb so I'm built up this energy and I run it backwards through the paralyzed lambs and in a few minutes to start how to move in to loosen up and stuff so now Rouse is setting up studies based don't work and I'm doing on drop at the on other doctors that are supplying statistical data into him so we're setting up a study here to understand the working mechanisms of how this energy is causing nervous systems to require does any of this ad surprise you these abilities you've had it with you while your life I mean do you pinch yourself going Wow I know why having this you know I keep looking for the better and better and better way to do more. It doesn't exhaust you it all I mean does a drain you know I'll go out and do a big lecture do demonstrations on Paypal and I am just charged to the max for them when you're outside and have you ever had like a street light go out in on or anything like that I had a whole street hundreds of lives down and go off it was. Just my people just by merely being there yes. Yes they're We've had all kinds of crazy things go on around me my whole life and if you like I can give a live demonstration that all your audience can feel right here in real time in 2 minutes time well you know what I'm talking about how do you do that Ok affair by listening would stand up out demonstrated and tell about it at the same as those of you who are not driving cars or trucks. Stan. I've got my family and partner here lead here beside me so we're going resonate both fields of energy mass going to famine but we're going to power is out and it's going to set up a gravity well most likely so everybody stand out their feet together and here we go all right so generate the field of energy as Dr Levin good say and I'm accessing the quantum field with the energy we're producing right here and this quantum string old is allowing it to go worldwide all of the same time and this show is recorded so everybody in the future will get the same afaics every time they listen to this show from your own post and up and so as we post editing this energy start noticing if you're wobbling back and forth or sway you also pay attention to the electrical sensations in your fingers and toes and if anybody out there is guiding aches and pains Well here's a free demonstration see how quickly you start taking care of them say Ok remember we're not feeling anything all of Dune is housing enough power to come into your body systems to start functioning as they were designed to do to power coming from us or within ourselves it's coming from me that's what we prove and then I am able to access the quantum field and transmit this They've already proved there and I send it in a manner that when I as auto credit here mom's voice has a 1.8 to 2.2 thirds signal and it is triggering everybody's brains that's how it works on recorded sessions for in the future when they listen to it the signals and they already are recording that you can't hear but your brains can hear that's what Dr Livingood parked in the early 2000 with Charlie tail and so this is called your buddies are locked into the quantum universe where sequences show or . All right now we don't pull forward film a bunch of people this is using a d.c. Negative field of generating I'm holding the player to a negative and projecting it through the corner of the field and this should be having a forward pull on never finding. Ok I'm letting off of it reversing the player Richie and no one backwards issued have a child like a poor job of a push up you love so probably notice when I'm pushing your warming up a little bit also your muscles and aches and pains are also feeling this energy now so now I'm reversing it again and pulling So every chance seconds are a change of the Palermo Tube electric field that on inducing into the quantum field of my aunt and everybody that's aware of it's receiving it and being taken part in it only receiving and. Ok now that's all you know has got some good stressor out there and it takes effect pretty quickly too doesn't it very fast Ok Everybody sit down that's just a 2 minute demo in a nutshell and let me ask you this we've got a Category 4 hurricane just slamming into our Gulf Coast area do you have the power to slow down something like a hurricane with your thought. I have no way of proving anything like that so I cannot say yes or no on it I have no way of measuring it have you ever tried I play with thunderstorms and stuff like that and what happens. Well like down home when I get back from b. And study my dark alone good my neighbor was a month later and I didn't want him medicine when the code was going to be doing some weird stuff so I went to turn made up made a quick healing known as food made it through a lot madder and madder a week later I told him watch a tree over about 200 yards from us for we had a thunder here there and I House of the lightning to drop in exactly where I told him is it I got all that on my youtube channel my video not the actual bit but interviews with him and stuff and I'm not always noted by a lot and so I've learned to be able to focus the synergy when I'm focusing on people and you know it attracts the energy All right hold on and we're going to take a quick break but we're going to come back with you when John Kreutz and take phone calls from our incredible response coast to coast am find out more about tonight's guest log on to coast to coast am dot com. 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